Week 16 power rankings

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1. Ravens (12-2; last week No. 1): They shouldn’t give Lamar Jackson the MVP award; they should name it after him.

2. Saints (11-3; No. 3): Is a third straight heart-crushing playoff exit looming?

3. Seahawks (11-3; No. 4): The only silver lining from the suspension of Josh Gordon is that he really hadn’t done much in five games with the team.

4. 49ers (11-3; No. 2): Saturday night won’t be a playoff game for the 49ers, but with the Rams staring at elimination it will feel like one.

5. Chiefs (10-4; No. 5): With Terrell Suggs on the team, it will become a lot harder to sleep on the biggest threat to the Ravens in the AFC.

6. Packers (11-3; No. 6): Overlooked when assessing the best teams in the NFC, maybe they shouldn’t be.

7. Patriots (11-3; No. 7): What would Bill Belichick do to slow down Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? Hopefully, we’ll all get to find out.

8. Vikings (10-4; No. 8): Kirk Cousins will have two chances to secure a playoff berth, and he won’t have to do that if the Rams lose to the 49ers.

9. Bills (10-4; No. 12): Wake up, America. The Bills are back.

10. Texans (9-5; No. 13): The Texans have become one of the most consistently inconsistent teams in the league.

11. Titans (8-6; No. 9): Every AFC team that has clinched a playoff berth should be hoping that the Titans won’t make it.

12. Steelers (8-6; No. 10): Duck and cover.

13. Cowboys (7-7; No. 18): The Cowboys are the kid who finally gets straight A’s after several report cards full of D’s, with the vague promise of more D’s to come.

14. Eagles (7-7; No. 16): If the Eagles lose at home to Dallas, they’ll be throwing more than snowballs at Santa.

15. Buccaneers (7-7; No. 15): Jameis Winston is earning that second contract, in Tampa Bay or elsewhere.

16. Rams (8-6; No. 11): With Todd Gurley no longer Todd Gurley, they need a new Todd Gurley.

17. Bears (7-7; No. 14): The band wasn’t on the field; if only Jasper Horsted had seen that Allen Robinson was.

18. Falcons (5-9; No. 24): If they played all the time like they play against the best teams in the conference, they’d be 11-3, too.

19. Browns (6-8; No. 17): 24 years ago today, the Ravens played their last game in Cleveland, as the Browns. In five days, the Ravens will be back. It could get ugly.

20. Broncos (5-9; No. 19): There’s hope for the future, but the present continues to be unacceptable.

21. Jaguars (5-9; No. 26): Will Tom Coughlin be five minutes early for his firing?

22. Raiders (6-8; No. 20): Derek Carr won’t have to worry about being booed off the field for the Raiders’ first home game in Las Vegas.

23. Colts (6-8; No. 21): From 5-2 to 6-8, the lack of Luck has finally caught up with them.

24. Chargers (5-9; No. 22): At least they didn’t blow another close game.

25. Jets (5-9; No. 23): Le’Veon Bell gets a chance to throw a wrench into Pittsburgh’s playoff aspirations.

26. Panthers (5-9; No. 25): From 6-2 to 7-9 a year ago, they’ve gone from 5-3 to 5-9 this year.

27. Cardinals (4-9-1; No. 30): How much more help can the Cardinals get around Kyler Murray in the coming offseason?

28. Washington (3-11; No. 27): If Washington wants to hire Urban Meyer to coach the team, they shouldn’t have let him visit the stadium before taking the job.

29. Lions (3-10-1; No. 28): Empty seats and signs calling for a sale of the team could spark big changes.

30. Giants (3-11; No. 32): Eli Manning goes out on a high note. It’s the only high note of the last three years.

31. Dolphins (3-11; No. 29): A chance to screw up New England’s playoff seeding is the only thing the Dolphins have to play for.

32. Bengals (1-13; No. 31): The team’s receivers got bullied on Sunday. Along with the rest of the team.

95 responses to “Week 16 power rankings

  1. “7. Patriots (11-3; No. 7): What would Bill Belichick do to slow down Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? Hopefully, we’ll all get to find out.”

    Cheat, obviously. It’s the go-to and Patriot way. Sadly, that’s a fact, not a joke.

  2. NAME the MVP Trophy for Lamar Jackson? Ok, ok, he is having a great year, and will probably win it.

    However, I can think of 10+ people more deserving of having the MVP Trophy named after them.

  3. 2. Saints (11-3; No. 3): Is a third straight heart-crushing playoff exit looming?

    Im gonna say yes it is. Were likely not getting number 1 seed superdome and I can just feel some crazy loss coming smh. And this coming from a BIG ole whodat

  4. The Lions do need big changes but I’m not sure a total house-cleaning is the right move. It feels like they are halfway to fully implementing a new philosophy and it could be a mistake to throw it all away now. It was a mistake to trade Diggs and Stafford has been injured but don’t forget they started the year very strong

  5. Lol. GB needed help AGAIN to beat the Bears and they stay at 6, meanwhile the Vikes go into Cali and destroy the team that GB couldn’t even score on until garbage time in the 3rd quarter, but are at 8. The Vikes are better and never needed, or have gotten help.

  6. “6. Packers (11-3; No. 6): Overlooked when assessing the best teams in the NFC, maybe they shouldn’t be.”

    No, they should be overlooked. They are the Toilet Paper Packers. Take away the multiple zebra gifts and they would not even have 8 wins this seasons.

  7. You want to be both healthy and peaking as the playoffs approach. The Vikings are one Dalvin Cook shoulder away from being both. Their offense is clicking, and Rivers made their defense look amazing. But the upcoming game against the Packers will tell a big story about both of those teams.

  8. gotitan says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    Hawks are better than the Saints.

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    I guess what tells you that is how the seahawks got dominated by the saints backup qb on their home field?

    This NFC race is going to be epic. The niners could be 1-5 or maybe even 6 and they keep talking about the game with the seahawks. They may want to be worried about this week as well. The saints look to be hitting their stride and if they can stop having key injuries they may be the NFC Favorite. The Seahawks will be hard to beat in Seattle come January. The Packers imo is the most overrated team in the league.

  9. As a Bills fan I absolutely love to see Tannehill thriving in Tennessee. Wish him all the success in the world and truly believed he never got a fair shake in Miami.

    That being said I’m thrilled the Texans won because facing the Tannehill Titans is a scary proposition for any AFC team in the playoffs.

  10. I read where Aaron Rodgers was blaming his poor performance against the Bears n the poor field conditions at Lambaeu. While I can agree with him the Lambeau becomes a cow pasture late in the year it no reason to try to put blame somewhere else for his poor play. This has always been a pattern with this guy

  11. How do you beat Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? Take away the PASS. Let him run. Let him run wild. Take away the pass. Look at the 2012 Vikings… AP ran wild crazy bonkers. 2000 yards, MVP, got the Vikings to the playoffs. Where they got beat BAD because they couldn’t PASS. Teams try to take way Lamar’s running and he beats them with his arm. Take away the arm and the game slows down. When a running team can’t pass they abandon the run and become one dimensional. When the Ravens are forced to flip the script you’ll beat them.

    I’m sure Bill’s already figured this out.

  12. I’m not a 49er fan but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to rank them below the Saints when they beat them on the road a week ago. The loss to the Falcons was an obvious letdown game after they had come off a brutal stretch of games. They are banged up but when healthy they look like the best team in the NFC to me. In the AFC it’s getting interesting. Baltimore and KC look like the teams that will be playing to go to Miami.

  13. snowlock2013 says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    How do you beat Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? Take away the PASS. Let him run. Let him run wild. Take away the pass. Look at the 2012 Vikings… AP ran wild crazy bonkers. 2000 yards, MVP, got the Vikings to the playoffs. Where they got beat BAD because they couldn’t PASS. Teams try to take way Lamar’s running and he beats them with his arm. Take away the arm and the game slows down. When a running team can’t pass they abandon the run and become one dimensional. When the Ravens are forced to flip the script you’ll beat them.

    I’m sure Bill’s already figured this out.
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    If only a team could had figured this out during the regular season.

  14. Can’t wait for that Bengals-Dolphins game.
    The Fin’s could put the pressure on the Bengals with a loss.
    Everyone needs to fight for something!

  15. wcman says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:44 pm
    I’m not a 49er fan but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to rank them below the Saints when they beat them on the road a week ago. The loss to the Falcons was an obvious letdown game after they had come off a brutal stretch of games. They are banged up but when healthy they look like the best team in the NFC to me. In the AFC it’s getting interesting. Baltimore and KC look like the teams that will be playing to go to Miami.
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    Seahawks are just as banged up as Clara, they’ve played pretty much the same schedule yet the narrative is that Clara had a brutal stretch of games and lots of injuries. So their first 8 games against a bunch of losers and the Rams as their toughest matchup in that powder puff stretch was just to beef them up to be called a powerhouse before they had to pay the piper and play real teams.

    The Saints are 11-3 while having to play a 3rd of the season with their backup QB. That deserves a 2 ranking just behind the Lamars on any planet.

  16. Love the Hawks, but I’ve not seen them dominate in any single aspect of the game all year long. I’d love to see them go all the way of course, but I don’t see that as all that realistic. The RW3 factor only takes you so far, then at some point the rest of the team has to perform at a super high level. They’re also dealing with injuries at the wrong time of the year.

    My guess is that they get 1 playoff win, regardless if they have a 1st round bye or not. Given the initial outlook at the start of the year, I think that could be classified as a ‘successful’ season.

  17. Jackson ain’t done squat yet. Fantasy points pro bowls power rankings MVP all meaningless without title. Manning won 5 MVP and only made Colts fans happy one time in 16 years. Can you say hype. In New England the players do not care about MVP fantasy points power rankings pro bowls and social media hype and excuses. They are only focused on team goals and winning titles. They are focused on winning a seventh title and everything else is just noise. Lots of pressure on Mr Jackson. Can he handle it. What if they get down by 14 points and the running game goes out the window. Most of his pass plays are when team way ahead and defense playing run. What if defense is only playing pass. Can he complete the big throws in the biggest games with most pressure with defense playing pass. We will have to see. In new England we know Brady can do it. We also have number one defense in league by yards points and turnover margin. Also top eight in sacks. Beating New England in post season whole different beast than in regular season. Belichick never shows his whole hand in regular season. Always saves plays for post season.

    So we will see. As Parcell’s would say lets not put Jackson in Canton just yet.
    He has not done anything in post season. Last post season he looked awful.

  18. cheeseisfattening says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    I read where Aaron Rodgers was blaming his poor performance against the Bears n the poor field conditions at Lambaeu. While I can agree with him the Lambeau becomes a cow pasture late in the year it no reason to try to put blame somewhere else for his poor play. This has always been a pattern with this guy
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    Can you ever tell the truth? Seriously?
    The field was never a cow pasture, it’s a beautiful blend of natural outdoor grass, unlike so many of these carpeted arena football McStadiums.

    When asked about the field conditions, Rodgers talked about it being frozen like concrete in some areas.
    And he never used it as an excuse, in fact, he felt it helped GB overall by easing the Bears aggressive pass rush.
    But, then again, why would pesky facts matter to someone like you.

  19. hailtothenamechange says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:46 pm
    To be fair, they threw snowballs at a guy playing Santa. It wasn’t the real Santa.
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    Phew! Good to know, that makes it so much better.

  20. –I’m not a 49er fan but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to rank them below the Saints when they beat them on the road a week ago.–

    It’s a snapshot in time and an opinion based metric… You have two close teams that played each other in a game that could have went either way…one coming off a blowout win and the other coming off a head scratching loss. What do you do? You give the edge to the big winner. But the good news is these rankings are 100% meaningless. If you disagree, make your own rankings list.

  21. Packers (11-3; No. 6): Overlooked when assessing the best teams in the NFC, maybe they shouldn’t be.
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    Worst 11-3 team I’ve ever watched.

  22. You want to be both healthy and peaking as the playoffs approach. The Vikings are one Dalvin Cook shoulder away from being both. Their offense is clicking, and Rivers made their defense look amazing. But the upcoming game against the Packers will tell a big story about both of those teams.

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    All the talk up until last week about the Cowboys not beating anybody with a winning record?
    Reminder: The Vikings have not beat anybody with a winning record…….

  23. Ravens (12-2; last week No. 1): They shouldn’t give Lamar Jackson the MVP award; they should name it after him.
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    Name it after him? OMG, what has this kid done that is SOOOOO special. It is like he threw for OVER 50 TDs this year…He is one hit away from being RGIII.

  24. I thought Suggs would only play for the Ravens?

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    Give him a chance – it could still happen if the Chiefs get that far.

  25. “ 24. Chargers (5-9; No. 22): At least they didn’t blow another close game.”

    Probably the funniest thing I’ve ever read on this site. Bravo sir, bravo!

  26. If, and only if, the Patriots beat the Bills & Dolphins, win the AFC East & finish with a first round bye, I expect to see them in the top 5. Even if it is #5.

  27. Conner makes a valid post above. The Vikes are a good team, not great … and are playing at home where the Pack have been unable to find their butt with both hands.

    This week’s game will say everything about both teams. The Pack have given no reason to make a wild hair prediction of victory when I penciled it in as an “L” in August…this is not the Pack’s GREAT season neither, but, the Vikes are playing better ball now.

    We’ll see come Monday, I still want the North championship regardless of what comes after.

  28. hailtothenamechange says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:46 pm
    To be fair, they threw snowballs at a guy playing Santa. It wasn’t the real Santa.
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    Game over. You win.

  29. If you look at the Vikings victories and the records of the teams they’ve beaten, none of them are over .500.

    Every team that is over .500 that they’ve played, they’ve lost to.

    Dalvin Cook gained 43 yards before being hurt (again) and Adam Thielen hasn’t been the same guy since week 9 last season.

    Of course you’re going to win if the other team gives you the ball 7 times.

    The Packers are superior, and their record proves it.

  30. You might be giving T-Fizzle a little too much love…might want to re-check the gas gauge on that one…

  31. ssoooooo snowlock: using a RB as a comparison to a QB makes zero sense – and Bill can figure it out nonsense is overrated as well …. if it were as true as you believe they’d never lose …… say goodbye to Tammy & Billy

  32. Just put all the potential playoff teams at the top and I don’t need to know the rest. Why would anyone debate whether team #32 should be higher than team #31?

  33. Packer tears are delicious. It’s like they’re nervous about being exposed in the playoffs, Again.

  34. “Cheat, obviously. It’s the go-to and Patriot way. Sadly, that’s a fact, not a joke.”

    As I posted in another thread. Go to the Ravens site and you will find a series called 360 replay produced by the Ravens. And guess what, there is extensive footage of the opposing team’s sidelines included.

    By your logic the Ravens and Lamar Jackson are where they are because they’re cheating. Which BTW neither the Ravens or the Pats are doing with the series they’ve been producing.

  35. Ravens (12-2; last week No. 1): They shouldn’t give Lamar Jackson the MVP award; they should name it after him

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    After one year? This is trolling level 100

  36. Sherman and the ‘Hawks showed several years ago, on a red zone play, how to beat guys like Jackson: when he’s out of the pocket – which is always at 3 seconds – mug all the receivers. Just don’t hold them. Mug on the side he’s running towards and force him to throw very long or against the grain.

  37. freedomofspeechyesway says:

    “7. Patriots (11-3; No. 7): What would Bill Belichick do to slow down Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? Hopefully, we’ll all get to find out.”
    Cheat, obviously. It’s the go-to and Patriot way. Sadly, that’s a fact, not a joke.

    -Bill Belichick already admitted “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying”-

  38. ARod(in his collarbone) says:

    Lol. GB needed help AGAIN to beat the Bears and they stay at 6, meanwhile the Vikes go into Cali and destroy the team that GB couldn’t even score on until garbage time in the 3rd quarter, but are at 8. The Vikes are better and never needed, or have gotten help.

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    And the Packers already beat the Vikings. And have a better record. Hence the rankings.

  39. freefromwhatyouare says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    Wake up, Florio. The Bills should be ahead of your Vikings.
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    Packers obsessing over the Vikings? Who saw that coming? I mean other than everybody.

  40. Wafflestomp says:
    December 17, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    When asked about the field conditions, Rodgers talked about it being frozen like concrete in some areas.
    And he never used it as an excuse, in fact, he felt it helped GB overall by easing the Bears aggressive pass rush.
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    Lambeau has heating coils under the field. Clearly, the Packers strategically turned them off in certain places to make it easier for them to win. And you’re bragging about it.

  41. I guess what tells you that is how the seahawks got dominated by the saints backup qb on their home field?

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    Rainy sloppy game. Chris Carson fumbles and NO picks it up and runs in for a long TD. Also a punt return for a TD as Hawks players are slipping all over. Absolutely nothing went right all day and the ball bounced NO’s way every single time.

    Pete Carroll said afterwards that it “was just one of those days” NO’s punter pinned Seattle inside the 5 yard line twice in a row.

    End score…New Orleans 33 Seattle 27.

    Six points after all that BS all day long.

    Not making excuses…the Saints won and great job…but to say “dominated” when characterizing the win makes me think you didn’t see it.

    Maybe we’ll see a rematch.

  42. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    December 17, 2019 at 2:15 pm
    Wafflestomp says:
    December 17, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    When asked about the field conditions, Rodgers talked about it being frozen like concrete in some areas.
    And he never used it as an excuse, in fact, he felt it helped GB overall by easing the Bears aggressive pass rush.
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    Lambeau has heating coils under the field. Clearly, the Packers strategically turned them off in certain places to make it easier for them to win. And you’re bragging about it.

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    It’s pretty clear you don’t understand how embedded radiant heat works. It’s nowhere near “turn it off and it instantly freezes, then turn it back on to instantly thaw.” Both teams played on the same parts that were frozen and the same parts that weren’t frozen. But hey, why let actual facts get in your way? They’ve never mattered to you before, so why should they now?

  43. Colts (6-8; No. 21): From 5-2 to 6-8, the lack of Luck has finally caught up with them.
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    The “lack of Luck” had nothing to do with the Colts defense getting torched by Brees.

  44. tokyosandblaster says:
    December 17, 2019 at 1:35 pm
    If you look at the Vikings victories and the records of the teams they’ve beaten, none of them are over .500.

    Every team that is over .500 that they’ve played, they’ve lost to.

    Dalvin Cook gained 43 yards before being hurt (again) and Adam Thielen hasn’t been the same guy since week 9 last season.

    Of course you’re going to win if the other team gives you the ball 7 times.

    The Packers are superior, and their record proves it.

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    Superior by one game? The Vikings beat the Cowboys who had a winning record when they played them. Eagles to….Just because they nosedived since doesn’t mean you can take that away…..same with the Eagles…a Team who the Packers lost to. The Packers are frauds. All their losses are embarrassing losses….

    Lost to the 49ers….in embarrassing fashion…The Chargers who are a terrible team, the Eagles who are a terrible team.

    Compare to the loss of the Vikings…loss to the Packers….close game and the Packers won because of a terrible penalty call by the officials that took a TD away from Diggs..loss to the Bears…again close game, and division games on the road are tough (you will find out Monday), lost to the Chiefs…barely…..and to the Seahawks…barely. No embarrassing losses like your team.

    What teams have the Packers beaten above .500…The Vikings with the help of the officials? Ok…Give you that one….The Chiefs without Mahomes? …anyone else? Nope. So really you beat one above .500 team who actually had their starting QB. The Packers are not that good. In every close game a bogus call from the reff’s has helped them…Lions game, Vikings game, Panthers, Bears…..

  45. 8&8parade says:
    December 17, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    It’s a snapshot in time and an opinion based metric… You have two close teams that played each other in a game that could have went either way…one coming off a blowout win and the other coming off a head scratching loss. What do you do? You give the edge to the big winner. But the good news is these rankings are 100% meaningless. If you disagree, make your own rankings list.

    Right and I gave my opinion which is what the story is designed to generate. You also don’t give the edge to the big winner when the other team just beat them in their building a week earlier. Common sense should tell us that the 49ers came off one of the toughest stretches in NFL history and had a let down against the same team that went into NO and beat the Saints badly a few weeks ago.

  46. 11. Titans (8-6; No. 9): Every AFC team that has clinched a playoff berth should be hoping that the Titans won’t make it.
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    Why

  47. I think both all the Packer players and all the Viking players are thankful they won’t have to play on a field that feels like concrete next week., How awful it must being having to play at Lambeau late in the year for any player.

    “Aaron Rodgers rips field conditions at Lambeau after win over Bears”

  48. The defending champions are not conceding anything and fear no team. The team that plays best in all three phases will be champion. Let the games begin. Rams averaged what 35 points a game last year and got 3 against Belichick’s game plan. Who knows who will win. I would never count out a team with number one defense in NFL the LEGEND as their QB and the Chess master as their head coach. Oh lots of fools have written them off for a decade and all had to eat crow. Tasty crow isn’t it fools.

    You h ave to beat the Defending Champions and the Dynasty on the FIELD. Wishing it and predicting it on social media has failed in the past. Bring it on. Play the games. The best team will be left standing in the end. They may or may not win but I know for sure the Patriots will play hard for 60 minutes and give it all they got. I also know for sure they fear no team and they concede nothing. whoever wins will have to earn it. No one gives you a title for a flashy regular season record.

    On to competing for a seventh title. Let the LEGEND Loose

  49. Alan Light says:
    December 17, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    Packers would lose to 7-27 on this list….
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    Cheeseisfattening, well it’s certainly obvious that the Packers had more than enough talent to beat the #8 team.

  50. jmethane says

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    Rainy sloppy game. Chris Carson fumbles and NO picks it up and runs in for a long TD. Also a punt return for a TD as Hawks players are slipping all over. Absolutely nothing went right all day and the ball bounced NO’s way every single time.

    Pete Carroll said afterwards that it “was just one of those days” NO’s punter pinned Seattle inside the 5 yard line twice in a row.

    End score…New Orleans 33 Seattle 27.

    Six points after all that BS all day long.

    Not making excuses…the Saints won and great job…but to say “dominated” when characterizing the win makes me think you didn’t see it.

    Maybe we’ll see a rematch.

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    It was 33-14 Saints with 4:19 left in the game, yes…DOMINATED! Saints played, let’s try not to lose the game on one play, on the last two garbage time TD’s by Seattle. We might see each other again, hopefully we have our QB in that game.

  51. Both teams played on the same parts that were frozen and the same parts that weren’t frozen.

    Wrong. both team’s make up is not the same. Chicago has a more dynamic pass rush which was neutralized by parts of the field being frozen so they felt like concrete. Green Bay doesn’t have that kind of dynamic pass rush so there was nothing to neutralize. it equaled out the pass rush in favor of the Packers so no it did not effect both teams the same just because they both were on the same field.

  52. Wait, he actually got rattled from me giving the Bills some props?

    The Bills are having a great season and if that was Cleveland at 10-4 it would be headline news every day on 4 networks. The Bills deserved the props.

    Added bonus that it triggered Barney. Score!👏

  53. freefromwhatyouare says:
    December 17, 2019 at 6:15 pm
    Wait, he actually got rattled from me giving the Bills some props?
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    no he was mocking/mimicking often wrong who always says stuff like “purples obsessing blah blah blah ” while ignore that the cheese eating trolls who are dong the exact same thing. not too sharp today free even for you.

  54. Viking fans have issues just like their team not winning anything besides the NFC North division. The last time they won anything that you can claim as a trophy game, would be way back to the 1976 season. That was the last time they played in the Super Bowl, and the Raiders dominated you.
    The no. 1 movie that year was Rocky. Happy days was the no. 1 tv series. (I’m just guessing on that, lol)
    You fans keep talking about the Packers like you’re jealous of them. You sound silly. Show some pride in yourself and your team.
    The Vikings are a good team. Can they win a BIG game (Super Bowl) with Cousins at QB? They couldn’t do it with Favre or Tarkenton, what makes you think they can do it with Cousins?
    The Vikings may win their last 2 games and make the playoffs, but can they win it all? That’s what you fans should be discussing and not about others teams.
    (My comments will be thumbs down. All by Viking fans. I guess I can’t fix stoopid)

  55. cheeseisfattening says:
    December 17, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Both teams played on the same parts that were frozen and the same parts that weren’t frozen.

    Wrong. both team’s make up is not the same. Chicago has a more dynamic pass rush which was neutralized by parts of the field being frozen so they felt like concrete. Green Bay doesn’t have that kind of dynamic pass rush so there was nothing to neutralize. it equaled out the pass rush in favor of the Packers so no it did not effect both teams the same just because they both were on the same field.

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    and the take away from that dribble is blah blah blah.

  56. cheeseisfattening says:
    December 17, 2019 at 6:11 pm
    Both teams played on the same parts that were frozen and the same parts that weren’t frozen.

    Wrong. both team’s make up is not the same. Chicago has a more dynamic pass rush which was neutralized by parts of the field being frozen so they felt like concrete. Green Bay doesn’t have that kind of dynamic pass rush so there was nothing to neutralize. it equaled out the pass rush in favor of the Packers so no it did not effect both teams the same just because they both were on the same field.

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    The Packers are 17th in the NFL with 35 sacks.

    The Bears are 23rd in the league with 31 sacks.

    Preston Smith is 6th in the league with 11.5 sacks.

    Za’Darius Smith is 9th in the league with 10 sacks and leads ALL NFL players in QB pressures.

    Khalil Mack is the highest ranked Bear at 29th with 7.5 sacks.

    The Packers pass rush is clearly more dynamic, as supported by your mortal enemy, the actual facts. Keep trying though. When you go into “scramble drill” is when it REALLY gets good.

  57. The Packers are 17th in the NFL with 35 sacks.

    The Bears are 23rd in the league with 31 sacks.

    Preston Smith is 6th in the league with 11.5 sacks.

    Za’Darius Smith is 9th in the league with 10 sacks and leads ALL NFL players in QB pressures.

    Khalil Mack is the highest ranked Bear at 29th with 7.5 sacks.

    The Packers pass rush is clearly more dynamic, as supported by your mortal enemy, the actual facts. Keep trying though. When you go into “scramble drill” is when it REALLY gets good.
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    All this shows is Mack gets way more attention. Iow only a Packer fan would say either smith is better than Mack with a straight face.

  58. When you beat Russell Wilson by six points…you almost lost.

    There is no “dominating” a six-point win.

    Some people call it garbage time… The Seahawks call the fourth quarter the time that they come back and win the game.

    6 points

  59. cheeseisfattening says:
    December 17, 2019 at 7:53 pm
    The Packers are 17th in the NFL with 35 sacks.

    The Bears are 23rd in the league with 31 sacks.

    Preston Smith is 6th in the league with 11.5 sacks.

    Za’Darius Smith is 9th in the league with 10 sacks and leads ALL NFL players in QB pressures.

    Khalil Mack is the highest ranked Bear at 29th with 7.5 sacks.

    The Packers pass rush is clearly more dynamic, as supported by your mortal enemy, the actual facts. Keep trying though. When you go into “scramble drill” is when it REALLY gets good.
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    All this shows is Mack gets way more attention. Iow only a Packer fan would say either smith is better than Mack with a straight face.

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    Except for Za’Darius Smith is also the most double-teamed edge rusher in the NFL, which is also supported by the actual facts. You never disappoint. Because you just… won’t… learn.

  60. jmethane says:
    December 17, 2019 at 8:07 pm
    When you beat Russell Wilson by six points…you almost lost.

    There is no “dominating” a six-point win.

    Some people call it garbage time… The Seahawks call the fourth quarter the time that they come back and win the game.

    6 points

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    I have to agree. That NFCCG where they came back on my Packers is a true testament. Yes, the Packers absolutely melted down but the Seahawks still had to make all the plays… and they did. Every last one of them. Russel Wilson just would not be denied that day.

    They actually brought “coach speak” to life. “Play to the final whistle, never quit, fight to the end…” Etc, etc, etc. I hate that it happened to “my” team but I have to recognize their accomplishment. It was truly a spectacle.

  61. It’s fun watching his (wrong, as always) post climbing in up votes at the same miraculous clip my actually factual post is gaining down votes. It’s like one for one. Gee, I wonder how that could be…?

    Like I said above. Down voting actual facts, that anyone here can easily check for themselves, speaks volumes to the credibility of certain people. And they wish to be taken seriously. Not likely.

  62. 1. Vikings (10-4; No. 8): Kirk Cousins is absolutely playing lights out, the team is finding it’s groove at the right time. And whoa! Where did that defense come from?!!?!?!

    2-31. Every other team (No.1-32) It’s been a nice season.

    32. Packers (11-3; No. 6) Rodgers’ age is becoming way more than apparent. Refs can’t be in their pocket EVERY game.

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  63. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 17, 2019 at 8:27 pm
    It’s fun watching his (wrong, as always) post climbing in up votes at the same miraculous clip my actually factual post is gaining down votes. It’s like one for one. Gee, I wonder how that could be…?

    Like I said above. Down voting actual facts, that anyone here can easily check for themselves, speaks volumes to the credibility of certain people. And they wish to be taken seriously. Not likely
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    Iow..

    Wwwwa waaaaa. Both green bay smiths are better than kahlil mack! Didn’t you see the individual sack numbers I posted?!! Facts! Waaa! What is wrong with every other fan base who doesn’t believe the smiths are better?! Waaa waaa!

  64. Patriots (11-3) at 7 is a strange sight

    I think having the 1 seed will mean a lot more in the NFC, with 3 of the most pronounced homefield advantages at stake (GB, NO, SEA). Easy to see any of those teams winning two home games. Yes SF is still in the mix but nobody is afraid of going there.

    I think the Ravens would represent the AFC even if they had to go get one in Foxboro.

  65. Nobody other than you said the Smiths are “better” than Mack. And I posted a lot more than just individual sack numbers. I posted individual sacks for both Smiths, team sacks, the fact that Z. Smith has more QB pressures than anyone else in the entire NFL AND the fact that Z. Smith is THE MOST double-teamed EDGE rusher in the NFL.

    All in response to you coming up with nonsense. First Rob Brzezinski is a Magician tried to sell “Packers cheated with the heating coils” which is completely ludicrous to anyone that understands these systems.It just isn’t possible.

    Then YOU appeared like magic and tried “Still cheating because the Bears have a more dynamic pass rush.” I posted the actual facts that show the Packers indeed have the more dynamic pass rush. See above.

    Your next attempt was “This just shows Mack gets more attention.” I followed that with the actual fact that Z. Smith is the most double teamed EDGE in the NFL.

    Now we’re at the stage where you mount a personal attack, using a straw man argument.

  66. tokyosandblaster says:
    December 17, 2019 at 3:37 pm
    Seems to me the Vikings couldn’t beat the Chiefs with that same QB playing.

    Am I mistaken?

    Or…

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    And the Packers lost to the Eagles (at home) and the Chargers who are awful. So your point is? The Packers easily could have lost to the Chiefs if a few things went a different way. The Chiefs had the game in hand until McCoy fumbled the ball…so don’t act like you destroyed them…the Vikings lost by a last min field goal. The margin was close for the Vikings and Packers, just a few things went the way of the Packers vs against the Vikings they didn’t. Overall it’s more embarrassing who the Packers have lost to. The Vikings have lost to good teams (except the Bears), vs the Packers have lost bad teams besides the 49ers.

  67. I think the smack talk between Vikes and Pack fans here is more entertaining than some actual NFL games…I consider the Power Rankings must read just for that

  68. jmethane says:
    December 17, 2019 at 8:07 pm
    When you beat Russell Wilson by six points…you almost lost.

    There is no “dominating” a six-point win.

    Some people call it garbage time… The Seahawks call the fourth quarter the time that they come back and win the game.

    6 points

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    Weren’t you just sobbing about the adverse conditions AT YOUR OWN STADIUM? You can’t, seriously, go back to back, making excuses for them about the weather (wouldn’t even have called it light rain) and conditions on their own field, to imputing some kind of ‘never say die’ glory to the team. Never said die, unless it’s drizzly out.

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