Jaguars may regret taking a pound of flesh from Tom Coughlin

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Yes, it was time for Jaguars executive V.P. of football operations Tom Coughlin to go. In hindsight, it arguably was a mistake to hire a lifelong coach to be anything but one. But Jaguars owner Shad Khan could soon regret the rush to fire Coughlin.

Per multiple sources, the two-time Super Bowl winner was planning to retire at the end of the season. One source suggested that Coughlin had planned to announce next week that he’d leave the organization upon conclusion of the Week 17 game against the Colts.

But if he indeed had to go today, in the aftermath of a series of player grievance rulings confirming that the time for his hard-line tactics with players has come and gone, why not give him a chance to leave on his own terms? Through a spokesman, Jaguars owner Shad Khan has admitted that Coughlin was not given an opportunity to resign or retire before being fired.

He should have been. He likely would have accepted, and he could have left with some degree of dignity, in a way that minimizes the impact of such a difficult outcome on Coughlin and his family.

Coughlin didn’t undergo an organic personality change when he returned to Jacksonville. He is who he’s always been. And that no longer works in the NFL, especially when still acting like a coach while in a job other than coach.

So why not let him walk away, with his head held semi-high? Instead, Khan gave in to the mob mentality that has emerged via comments from current players and a stinging rebuke from their union, which expressly warned all members to think twice before signing with the Jaguars.

It’s too late to take it back, too late to let Coughlin resign or retire. There are few certainties in this business, but here’s one that can be guaranteed: Khan will regret the way this one was handled.

137 responses to “Jaguars may regret taking a pound of flesh from Tom Coughlin

  1. He is who he’s always been. And that no longer works in the NFL,

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    I guess Belichek must not have gotten that memo….

  2. Or not. They will probably install a second swimming pool, one with sharks that have fricking LASERS on their heads. And all the cheerleaders in London games will wear go go boots. Team will still lose though. Remember two years ago when they were unbeatable?

  3. I think they had to fire him to send a message to the players that things would be changing. Letting him go out on his own terms would have probably maintained some level of concern with them.

  4. Kahn is trying to ingratiate himself to players by dumping Coughlin, but it will go no where. Jags don’t have a history of winning and pandering won’t change that.

    If I owned one of the other AFC South teams I’d see about ponying up enough cash to compensate dear old Mr. Coughlin as a consultant for 2020…

  5. Coughlin and Eli Manning have gotten more mileage out of their SB wins than anyone else ever has. it’s like it bought them carte blanche to suck for nearly an entire decade afterward and still get treated like royalty.

    I say good for Kahn for clearing out the dead wood before the players sued the Jags for rampant workplace violations.

  6. I think Tom understands the politics of it just fine and could care less about the “dignity” of it all.
    His 2 Super Bowls are all the dignity he’ll ever need to prove his worth in the football world. Good job Tom

  7. Khan was right to fire Coughlin in light of his fines fiasco’s. Going forward, the Jaguars organisation needs to have a positive relationship with the players and their union. If they let Coughlin retire on his own terms, that sends the message they approved of what Coughlin did. That would not only stick in the craw of Jags players, it would also cause free agents to not to choose going to JAX.

  8. He embarrassed the franchise with the fact that 25% OF ALL GRIEVANCES WERE AGAINST JACKSONVILLE!!

    He hurt and embarrassed the franchise, short term and long term.

    He didn’t deserve anything but what he got.

  9. Coughlin stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from players and you think keeping him would endear future free agents?

    If Khan wanted the entire NFL fan base to love the Jags, he could’ve fired Coughlin from a cannon to kick off week 16.

  10. venomraider says:
    December 18, 2019 at 10:30 pm
    He is who he’s always been. And that no longer works in the NFL,

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    I guess Belichek must not have gotten that memo….

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    Look, I get that BB is old school, but Coughlin is bordering on the old guy at K State that wouldn’t even talk to an assistant that wasn’t clean shaven. It’s one of those things, you’ve gotta give if you wanna get. BB. expects a lot, but he also treats these guys like men, not kids or indentured servants. It’s about respect and dignity. TC is about rules for the sake of rules. It’s not gonna work anymore. People need to feel like the sacrifices they make are for a reason.

  11. love that accountability is the first thing to go this day and age. as a teacher i can tell you that its only getting worse with children.

  12. Why should he be given that opportunity? I don’t see why he deserves that. Doesn’t have the same impact as firing.

  13. I’m thinking perhaps Coughlin overstepped his boundary in some ways and maybe displayed his tough guy act toward the real owner. Meaning maybe Tom thought he was owner and Shad had enough of his charade and decided to get him out immediately!!

  14. He won’t regret firing him. It’s his team and coughlin was a cancer to the team. His ways don’t fit into todays culture. Bye!

  15. Disagree. TC has been around long enough to understand how it works.
    As other have pointed out, it was about sending a message to the players.. potential free agents.
    Khan is a smart man. About the only thing he will end up regretting is not letting Coughlin go sooner.
    TC still has his legacy from NY and a some great early memories in Jacksonville, but it was past time to hang ‘em up.

  16. After I heard about the additional $99,000 ( after the $700,000 ruling) who knows how much more is out there, and if Khan was caught off guard?? Its close to a $1,000,000 in back payments plus *and more importantly, the reputation of the owner and perception of potential employees (players). Its a bad look especially if this goes against the owners grain. There is more to the story for the firing, big picture is the owner doesnt want this perception and it isnt the way he wants to be viewed. by making this statement (and we don’t know all the facts ) he is looking at the big picture. This was embarrassing to the organization.

  17. Don’t know anything about what is going on in Jacksonville but if Coughlin was hired with the thought that he would change, than shame on you. He is a disciplinarian, he is what he is. If that style doesn’t fit into today’s NFL then you should have known that and not hired him. However, at his age he should have been given the opportunity to STEP aside. This could have long ranging effects on all front office positions in the future.

  18. I think maybe they should issued him a really stiff fine.

    On the bright side, his hard line stance did kind of force them to trade the best cornerback in football. A mild nutcase, but the Jags have not exactly done well since they opted to trade Ramsey. They got a king’s ransom for him…but wouldn’t they rather have a motivated , happy Ramsey and no Coughlin?

  19. General Coughlin is a fine man,who has always run a tight ship.I jokingly called him general because he expects displine from top to bottom.In NY Mr.Beckham’s behavior and Tom’s appeasing him was Coughlin’s downfall.Somehow I think he got orders from above to baby Odell and thereby enabling him.

    That didn’t serve anybody and coughlin lost the respect of the team from top(management) to bottom.

    Sadly,I believe he tried to regain what he lost by in NY by reverting to General Coughlin.

    I know his career is likely over and as a lifetime NYG fan(1956) I will forever be grateful to Tom for the two Super Bowls.Enjoy your retirement!!!

  20. It was H Ross Perot who had a sign behind his desk that read, “If you see a snake……shoot it first and ask questions later.”

    Mr Khan would’ve waited but the bombshell on Coughlin’s continual obliteration of the rules was too
    much to wait a second longer.

    It had to be done….swiftly and convincingly.

    Now Mr Khan can go about rebuilding the Jags franchise.

  21. Shad Khad fired Tom Coughlin to send a message to the rest of the league that Coughlin was the problem, and he was kicked to the curb. No need to have the lame excuse of spending more time with my family.

  22. So Shad joins Jerruh, and Art (of losing) Modell as owners who have fired Hall of Fame coaches. Impressive company.

  23. Khan did the right thing. Coughlin sounds like he was universally hated by players in Jacksonville. If they want to rebuild with the best players, Khan needed to send a message. Ultimately, football is about the players.

    Also, someone needed to take the fall for a disappointing season. The Jags were supposed to be a playoff team. Instead, they lost their best player because of Coughlin. Coughlin was the responsible more than anyone else for a disappointing season…at least that’s how they’re going to sell it.

  24. If the Jaguars had done like the rumors said and traded for Eli Manning in 2017, when Leonard Fournette was taking the world by storm and their defense was as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar – They would’ve won the Super Bowl and gave us an awesome conclusion to the Manning-Coughlin partnership.

  25. Bad owner, bad market, bad stadium, bad front office, bad coaching, bad QB, bad team and worst of all *fully through and through totally effing boring*. 1996 called and wants its color scheme back, lol. Keep doing the London morning games tho where you kind of relieve us from your dullness while we sleep in.

  26. Oh stop he needed to go. As a jags fan he made terrible decisions with players..lost a franchise cb, resigned a bum qb,signed an even more bum qb for $84 mil and won’t resign yannick?? Tom and Dave need to go

  27. My first thought on attributing Coughlin’s firing to a mob mentality – Janoris Jenkins’ release.

  28. Coughlin and Eli Manning have gotten more mileage out of their SB wins than anyone else ever has. it’s like it bought them carte blanche to suck for nearly an entire decade afterward and still get treated like royalty.

    I say good for Kahn for clearing out the dead wood before the players sued the Jags for rampant workplace violations.
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    eli is top 10 in all major statistical categories, and a 2 time super bowl champ and mvp,,coughlin a two time super bowl winning coach. do you really think they care what a hack like you thinks? the only time jax has been good is with coughlin in the building.

  29. Couldn’t disagree more. Coughlin has embarrassed the organization with these petty fines against players. He’s damaged the reputation of the team long term in doing it. The PA basically told players to think twice before they sign in Jacksonville. Coughlin deserves one outcome and he got it.

  30. The only thing the Jaguars going to regret is not making this move before they lost Ramsey

  31. Bull, the often-irritating Coughlin did enough things wrong in his second term with the Jaguars to have warranted being thrown unceremoniously out on his ear and those particularly offended by that just need to get over it and move on down the road at a swift pace. Coughlin’s time as an actively relevant NFL figure is done now and this was an embarrassing ending he’ll just have to live with. His agent suggesting he has “a lot of football left in him” is simply nonsense and a lame attempt at spin.

  32. I guess I don’t know where “regret” my enter in to it. He’s an NFL owner, as long as he isn’t doing drugs, enabling cheaters in his organization or subverting the cap – NFL owners get away with everything.

  33. You can act like a jerk and it’s ok if the team is winning a superbowl. Everyone can out up with the crap. But if it is miserable on the field the jerk behaviour becomes intolerable. That’s why he had to go.

    And to be concerned about the bully’s feelings … Cry me a river. Imagine all the guys he cut over the years. You think he was asking himself if he should do it in a way that had the most dignity for the player. OMG.

  34. He had a chance to resign Tuesday or Wednesday. He didn’t. Khan let him go. I realize the season is over we are going nowhere but the team didn’t need this distraction hanging over their heads for the next 2 games.

  35. What’s there to regret, he’s a bully that got fired! Just because he could have retired doesn’t matter,.

  36. Yep, old school is going to be replaced because the new NFL wants to be hip like the NBA. Good luck to them I won’t be watching …

  37. Coughlin is a grown man. He’s been doing this NFL thing for many moons. Pretty sure he knows you don’t get a pass for not doing your job. He didn’t give players a pass to go out on their own terms. Nah, he traded, cut or fined them lol.

  38. Jags don’t need Caldwell or Marrone either… new, younger, more football savy blood needed here. Sorry to say Jags prob won’t be here in 10 years, as Khan now asking for a new stadium. This town can’t afford that… he will prob take them to London or Mex city, or some other much larger market.

  39. venomraider says:
    December 18, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    I guess Belichek must not have gotten that memo….

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    I must’ve missed the memo about all the Patriot players complaining about fines?

    Bill doesn’t illegally fine you for not rehabbing where he wants you to rehab. If Coughlin would’ve avoided that he would still be employed through the rest of the season.

    We could go on for days regarding Belicheks virtues and vices but him and Coughlin are 2 different people.

  40. Coughlin crossed a line. You don’t mess with people’s money.

    Improperly fining a player once, ok, sometimes people can get overzealous. But doing it more than once? Seems like he thinks he’s above the rules–something, ironically, that goes against everything he preaches.

    Khan had no choice but to fire him to have any credibility with any of his players. Letting Coughlin weasel out of this mess by resigning wouldn’t have been the right move.

  41. “No one respects you, you haven’t produced results, you create more problems than solutions — but please feel free to retire on your own terms, have a nice bonus, and we’ll all act like everything’s great between us” is everything wrong with modern business. Reviled people should be fired.

  42. When they went to the AFC championship that first year, it seemed like everyone commended coughlin for the turnaround as if Marrone wasn’t even there. They are once again terrible and the blame seems to be solely on coughlin.

  43. In his first year, Tom Coughlin did what he was brought to Jacksonville to do. He brought discipline and control and helped the team have a good season. He should have been on a one year contract. He also had to make up for Marrone, who has never been able to have discipline and is a very poor. team leader. They will have no team success as long as Marrone is head coach. How many years did Coughlin have left on his contract? Firing him may get him pay checks that he would not have received if he retired.

  44. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Coughlin make his name by never pulling any punches and doing what was best for the team regardless of the feelings of those involved?
    Live by the sword, die by the sword. Truthfully I doubt he’s that upset about it if he already knew he was done.

  45. Uh Mike, what’s the owner going to regret? Usually there’s like a consequence or something. I see none here.

  46. You’ve given alternatives to how this was handled but offered nothing on why Kahn will regret this. Money means nothing, so paying Coughlin through ’21 doesn’t mean anything. Kahn has a rudderless organization, did this firing help that? I doubt it. Where are the wins going to come from now? I highly doubt the players will be more presonnally responsible now that they know nobody in the organization will “force” them to behave.

  47. What if he had changed his mind and wanted to stay? I am sure Khan had heard and seen enough and wanted to repair discussions with agents immediately.

  48. Good lord- he HAD to go- players under him while he was coach of the Jags were tweeting about it last night. Guy was unhinged. Basically chased Ramsey out of town. We got two #1’s, but these are low 1’s, Ramsey was a #3. You don’t get another shot at a #3 level talent and two #1’s don’t make up for it.

    Jags lost credibility in free agency and with the players associated. No one was going to come here or want to stay. Letting Coughlin stay would have sent a message that it would be business as usual here in Jax. Khan flexed his muscle as owner, showed who is boss, admitted to his hiring mistake, and committed to winning.

    Jags have to start over, again, but this time- they need to make a ‘splash’ hire. No young, trendy assistant. Go get a big hitter in coach and GM. Get Belichick. Go big. Sick. Of. This. Every. Dang. Year….

  49. You don’t know all of the facts of the situation, so I’m not sure why you are passing judgment on Khan’s decision. Many, many personnel issues stay in-house and aren’t reported because it isn’t a good look to air your own team’s dirty laundry.

  50. Coughlin made a training camp player shave his mohawk, the player did. That afternoon, Coughlin cut him.

  51. Coughlin just got a win-win-win situation. Everyone gets fired in the NFL, absolutely no shame in being let go early. He now gets paid for 2020 and 2021 (I think his contract went to 2021) since he didn’t retire. He doesn’t have to do exit interviews with players and coaches in a few weeks. The biggest win for him is he gets to spend the holiday season with his family since he is free from the Jaguars for the rest of the season!! That is something he may barely have done in the past 25 years. I hope he spends his whole 2020 Jags check on his family.

  52. The reality is that Coughlin’s tough guys act caused them to lose a couple of their best defensive players, and his mismanagement of the QB position ruined the offense.

    What choice did Khan have?

  53. Not seeing the “pound of flesh” being taken. He gets paid upon termination as provided in his contract, right?

    You don’t think Coughlin as GM did the same thing to players he cut when he found it appropriate (which I gather sometimes it was not)?

  54. “So why not let him walk away, with his head held semi-high?” Dude, did you read the article you linked to? 25% of all player grievances filed have been against one club…the Jags. The NFLPA went as far as to tell players to be wary of signing with them. They’ve been improperly fining players. You don’t get to walk out with your head held high after that. They had to fire him to send a message to the players that maybe Jacksonville is an OK place to play…

  55. Spare me the crocodile tears for Coughlin. He deserves a lack of empathy for his repeated lack of empathy for people.

  56. edukator44 says:
    December 18, 2019 at 10:53 pm
    love that accountability is the first thing to go this day and age. as a teacher i can tell you that its only getting worse with children.
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    I love that you don’t realize that Coughlin was fired for breaking rules; thus being held accountable. Coughlin was crossing the line from discipline into abuse.

  57. Not sure how firing a guy is taking a pound of flesh. I could wrong here but wasn’t Coughlin fired as a coach before he went to New York.

    Also, this isn’t like the real world where the rest of us live. Coughlin will still be paid some portion of the money on his contract, if not all. I think dude will be just fine.

  58. Nah, the only thing they’ll regret is not making the move sooner or bringing him on in the first place.
    He’s bungled the whole roster up and screwed the cap situation in quick fashion.

  59. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. Kahn is an idiot who doesn’t know how to run an NFL team. Very un classy move.

  60. What I don’t get is how/why Coughlin decided the amount he did? Was there a league standard for each violation? Players need to be held accountable. Many fans said in the past that teams should hit players where it hurts…their pockets and paychecks. But now that someone in an organization actually does everyone is calling Coughlin old school or to get in the times with millennials.

    I guess it goes back to the first question, did Coughlin follow protocol and fine players the appropriate amount?

  61. If someone you hired is engaged in conduct that is hurting future FA’s from coming to your team you fire him ASAP. This idea of letting him retire/resign on his own terms to serve his ego, while he is hurting the future of your franchise in real time is pure nonsense.

    You get fired in professional sports when you fail. Kind of goes with the territory for how many years now?

  62. Give me a break. This is a multi-billion dollar sport every single year. Coughlin is richer beyond what most of us could even dream. Oh, sorry your feelings were hurt. He was compensated for it. Stop the whining.

  63. venomraider says:
    December 18, 2019 at 10:30 pm
    He is who he’s always been. And that no longer works in the NFL,

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    I guess Belichek must not have gotten that memo….

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    Freddie Kitchens did, lol…

  64. Of course Mike….it’s entirely possible ownership knew all this but needed to take action now anyways for reasons you’re not privy to. Just a thought.

  65. I disagree with you Mike. This was the right move . Tom is not the future of the Jags. The draft and free agents are. You want people to work for you in business. Same thoughts for NFL players. This was a statement to the employees of the NFL, future free agents , and college players.

  66. xxakshunxx says:
    December 18, 2019 at 10:38 pm
    why should his success in NY be treated as if he was a winner in Jax?

    Because he was a winner in Jax before he was the coach of the Giants. He led them to 2 AFC championships, including one where they had a 14-2 record

  67. The Jaguars have been to the AFC championship 3 times with TC and 0 times without him. Let that stat sink in.

  68. Clearly the relationship had soured. If he was 100% stepping down at the end of the season and they were getting along AT ALL it should have been simple to get him to announce his plans publicly OR have him just step down a little early. That they outright fired him suggests they weren’t getting along at all or that they weren’t even totally sure he was going to retire.

  69. They had to fire him and make it public. Are you guys up on the latest with this team? They were fining guys left and right for nothing. If they don’t make this move they never sign a free agent again. Already a bad franchise, this was damage control.

  70. Poor performance will get you fired in the NFL. For example in the 2018 NFL draft, Jacksonville selected Tavern Bryan @29 while Lamar Jackson was available. However if Jackson was selected by Jags, they would probably made him into a wide receiver.

  71. It’s pretty sad when your VP is more of a man than your players. This generation is too soft and does not accept accountability for their own actions. Big NFL players included. This league is on an undeniable decline.

  72. I am all for discipline but Coughlin was off his rocker. That Leonard Fournette fine was ludicrous. $99,000 fine for sitting on the bench instead of standing all game when he had a hamstring injury. That is just stupid. Fining someone with a injured leg for sitting isn’t discipline, its stupidity.

  73. Because optics of the organization throughout the league needed to be such that Khan is an owner who cares about players. Cutting Coughlin loose now shows that the Jaguars take recruiting and keeping players happy. Not doing so would show complacency.

  74. The Dante Fowler situation was simply insane. He was fined 25 separate times totaling $700,000 for doing something that is SPECIFICALLY allowed under the CBA. (In plain language, not even in legalese.) You know after the very first fine that him, his agent, the players association, maybe even the league itself eventually, etc. must have told the Jags “look this up in the CBA” but they CONTINUED to keep fining him. That’s not just vindictive, it’s nuts.

  75. “in a way that minimizes the impact of such a difficult outcome on Coughlin and his family”

    The impact? The difficult outcome? If what you say is true, he was hanging it up anyway. He’s still getting paid. The net outcome is the same, as is the impact to anyone but Coughlin’s psyche…and he’s too tough a bird to be torn up over it.

  76. M.A.T says:
    December 19, 2019 at 8:16 am
    Coughlin made a training camp player shave his mohawk, the player did. That afternoon, Coughlin cut him

    – this is actually hilarious. I bet that guy looks appropriate now when he shows up for job interviews.

  77. The difference between Coughlin and Belichick is that Belichick has twenty years of success to command respect and buy-in to his system. His punishments are harsh but fair because players recognize that the key to success is discipline. And he can point to his record of success as proof. Everyone still wonders what Malcom Butler did before the Super Bowl to deserve being benched, but I’m sure Butler and Belichick both know. If Butler thought it was unfair, he would have had no reason to keep quiet about it. Coughlin’s punishments seem arbitrary and unconnected to making players better do their job. Rules for the sake of rules.

  78. This was a PR move. If Khan cared about players being being fined for missing offseason yoga sessions then he would have canned Coughlin long ago. Now that its in the public forum all of a sudden Coughlin is let go with a second and a half left in their season. Nothing but a PR move.

  79. So you’ree going to fire the guy that put a team on the field that was a pass away from a superbowl to appease a few prima donna players. How’s things working out for Ramsey in LA? You always lose when you bank on players to do their job on their own. I get the issue with fines, but as an owner Khan could have simply told TC to cool it and things would have been copacetic. Instead you lose the best thing to happen to that organization if years. This team is dead on the vine and players will leave anyway. Real players appreciate it when teammates are held accountable. People love to talk about the coach in LA and Andy Reid, but they still haven’t won anything. TC has and it wasn’t an accident or should I say 2 accidents.

  80. I don’t know how much money Coughlin did or didn’t have left on his contract/deal but if he’s still owed money then Khan is an extremely stupid business man because had he just waited a week for Coughlin to resign then Khan wouldn’t of owed him a red cent but since he fired him he owes him every dime left on his contract, not a smart move if that is indeed the case.

  81. hawkkiller says:
    December 22, 2019 at 10:50 am
    I don’t know how much money Coughlin did or didn’t have left on his contract/deal but if he’s still owed money then Khan is an extremely stupid business man because had he just waited a week for Coughlin to resign then Khan wouldn’t of owed him a red cent but since he fired him he owes him every dime left on his contract, not a smart move if that is indeed the case.

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    Can’t call the owner stupid because your scenario is based on Coughlin’s willingness to resign, which may or may have not been the case.

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