Bill Polian and two Sirius colleagues did not vote Lamar Jackson All-Pro

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Before the Ravens drafted Lamar Jackson, Hall of Fame General Manager Bill Polian famously opined that Jackson should be a wide receiver, not a quarterback, in the NFL. Polian has since admitted he was wrong, but he’s not ready to admit that Jackson is the best quarterback in the NFL.

Of the 50 voters who chose the Associated Press All-Pro team, 47 chose Jackson at quarterback. One of the three who didn’t was Bill Polian.

So while Polian has admitted that Jackson is, in fact, a quarterback and not a wide receiver, he’s not ready to admit that Jackson is the best quarterback in the NFL.

Polian voted for Russell Wilson, and so did the other two voters who didn’t select Jackson. Interestingly, those other two voters were Pat Kirwan of SiriusXM and Jim Miller of SirisusXM. Polian also appears on SiriusXM. Wilson has been a guest on SiriusXM many times, and may have developed a friendly relationship with the hosts there, but that should in no way influence how those hosts cast their All-Pro votes.

To most, Jackson was an obvious choice. Then again, to most, Jackson was obviously a quarterback, and not a wide receiver, coming out of college.

129 responses to “Bill Polian and two Sirius colleagues did not vote Lamar Jackson All-Pro

  1. bill polian shouldnt have a vote anyways. guys a joke. the aaf debacle should exclude anyone from having any value on his opinion. biggest front runner in the biz.

  2. Polian is an idiot. When asked about the unprecedented Dynasty in New England Polian responded ” They are not as good as people think they are” what a moron. Maybe it is because his Colts and poster boy Manning always got BEAT by the DYNASTY

  3. Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

  4. Polian will always be a clown. I still can’t believe they put him in the hall of fame! Go a Superbowl with Manning only because they beat the Rex Grossman led Bears. lol

  5. I’m not a fan of Polian’s by any stretch but so what, does he have to agree with the consensus otherwise he gets shamed?

  6. While I agree that not choosing Lamar for All-Pro is silly, let’s not pretend that everyone was on him as the next big thing before this year, particularly after that playoff game vs the Chargers last year.

  7. Laughable. They seriously should have their voting privileges revoked. My grandma could’ve followed the NFL this year and known LJ was best QB THIS year. Guess Polian couldn’t put his pride aside

  8. Polian admitted he was wrong but it sticks in him – sounds like he is bitter that he was proven wrong.

  9. To add a note… it is well documented that Kirwin is buddies with Pete Carroll. If you listen to Kirwin & Miller on Sirius they are as thick as thieves. Kirwin is another guy that thinks he is the only one that knows anything abut football. No one else possibly could.

  10. “You know who would be a good general manager for the Colts? My Son Chris” – Bill Polian Colts proceed to go 2-14 as Chris tells the world he doesn’t need a QB because Peyton Manning is week to week with practically a broken neck.

  11. Yeah because Russell Wilson is not also a great player and MVP candidate. The horror!

  12. Jim Miller is the king of the stupid hot take and Kirwan and Polian were born before electricity. Next question.

  13. I am a Ravens fan but really, who cares. All pro, MVP, best whatever – it doesn’t matter. Championships matter and LJ, as young as he is, knows this.

  14. Did they not notice Wilson cooled off towards the end of the year? Obviously it didn’t help that Lockett got hurt and Metcalf is still a developing rookie (albeit a darned good one) AND all the running backs went on IR, but Wilson wasn’t quite himself during the last month. It wasn’t the sustained season long awesomeness of Jackson’s year. And by the way, I’m a big Seattle fan. It’s okay to acknowledge reality.

  15. Shows why Polian and Kirwan are working in the media and not with NFL teams anymore.

  16. Hard to imagine that someone can have a differing opinion…… Not everyone has to be sold on something. Polian and his colleague’s can feel and vote as they want. Jackson has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he a more than capable field general. His type of play is changing the game or bringing an added twist. He has proven that. So, they don’t think he isn’t suited to be an NFL Quarterback, So what???

  17. billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

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    The question is who was the best QB throughout THIS regular season (weeks 1-17). The answer is Lamar Jackson without any doubt.

  18. I will never understand why Bill Polian is in the Hall of Fame-his Bills ‘participated’ in four consecutive SuperBowls… . With the Colts , he made the daring pick of Peyton Manning when the consensus pick was Peyton Manning. Running the rules committee, he put a point of emphasis on defensive pass interference because Ty Law made him cry. His Manning Colt teams averaged 11-12 wins a year, but only two trips to the Superbowl. Manning is out for the year and the Colts go 2-14. Contrast that with the 2008 Patriots that went 11-5 without Brady. Did I mention the absolutely splendid job he did running the Alliance of American Football?

    What a clown.

  19. classiefreddieblassie says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    Shows why Polian and Kirwan are working in the media and not with NFL teams anymore.

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    Kirwan is at least good. Polian? Not so much.

  20. Remember when Polian cried until the league changes the rules by which DBs can cover receivers so that his Colts could actually have a chance of winning a playoff game?

  21. From what I see in the from the Tundra, He was the best QB this year ( I’m also a Russel Wilson fan). But the only thing for sure, is that the best NFL QB right now, is NOT in the NFC North.

  22. Bill Polian was overrated as a NFL exec but why such outrage Lamar was not a unanimous decision he’s still 1st team and let’s not act like Russ didn’t have a great year worthy of 1st team honors as well….

  23. Lol at all the people criticizing one of the best GM’s in the game during his time. He put together 3 different teams that were SB contenders and won it in Indy. He is entitled to his opinion and while Jackson has had a great season, it’s his running that has been his greatest trait which is not what people like Polian are looking for in naming the top QB and why he made the WR comments in the first place. Jackson is not a traditional QB so there should be little surprise that not everyone sees him as the best one in the league. Wilson is a better overall QB and so his Mahomes for that matter imo. We’ll see how far the Jackson train goes when he has to start relying on his arm more than his legs.

  24. Polian is THE quintessential example of the effect of the “Because I say it is” attitude. He’s soo good at that arrogant old school know-it-all attitude, those who really DONT know (reporters, media etc) are impressed with him.

    However, being “able” to actually DO the job effectively impresses those who actually hire for NFL jobs. That’s why Polian no longer works in the NFL but is a favorite darling of television shows who must find those who “sound like” experts, to put on their shows.

  25. Bill Polian also loved Tom Brady coming out of college, but not enough to take him with any picks.

    I think for his involvement in the AAF (a league that started as a fraud as they had lost their financial backing and had no way to finish the season) should preclude him from any further football involvement. Unless he helps out all the players with injuries that can’t get them fixed since the league won’t pay for the medical expenses.

    Should also have to admit under oath how much he knew about how horrible the league finances were–when they STARTED their season!

  26. To Bill Polian if a quarterback doesn’t look and play like Jim Kelly or Peyton Manning, he’s not worthy.

    Needless to say, his “talent” at evaluating football talent evaporated a couple decades ago. Not sure why he’s considered a good talking head.

  27. You are just now figuring out that people vote for who they are friends with? I knew that before Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis got in the HOF, wait…aren’t they on the NFL Network?

  28. jlswisc says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

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    The question is who was the best QB throughout THIS regular season (weeks 1-17). The answer is Lamar Jackson without any doubt.

    Still disagree with you. Put him in any other offense and see what happens.

    I can understand his MVP credentials, but he really is not the best quarterback in the league, not even for this season. I’m surprised he got that many All Pro votes for QB to begin with.

  29. billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

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    The scoreboard says otherwise.

  30. djbumbaclot says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:12 pm
    The lord of no rings has spoken

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    To be fair, he does have ONE ring. And a whole bunch of participation trophies.

  31. It depends on how the voter defines an All-Pro QB. Is it based on how well he throws the ball and plays the position as a QB…or is it how many wins he generated for his team.

    As far as how many wins Jackson lead his team to….sure…he’s All-Pro. If that is your criteria.

    If it’s how well a QB actually played the position as a traditional QB, then Jackson ranked 9th in completion %, 22nd in total passing yards, 10th in int %, 11th in yard/att…so for someone to think that there is a better passer in the league…that isn’t too far fetched.

  32. So if not everybody thinks exactly the same, they’re to be be singled out and ridiculed? I don’t think that’s a good idea.

  33. youngnoize says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:52 pm
    lol how much can one hate Lamar? The kid is an amazing player and even better person.

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    I like Lamar Jackson and I don’t agree with Polian/Miller/Kirwan here, but not voting him as an All-Pro doesn’t mean anyone “hates” him. There’s a reason people vote on it — because there are differences of opinion.

    Also, what’s him being an amazing person have to do with it? It’s an All-Pro vote, not Man of the Year.

  34. Not to vote LJ as All-Pro is comical. Russell Wilson has struggled in so many games this year including the loss to the Ravens. While Lamar made it look easy and was out of the game early in the 4th quarter in three games. Statistically, It is not even close. Lamar shattered Vick’s record playing only in 15 games and resting in blow-outs. He revolutionized the way to play QB in the NFL. Polian can remain in denial all he wants.
    The funny part is that Lamar does NOT care about personal accolades. He is a team-first guy. He wants to win a Superbowl and will hopefully do so in February. Polian and others have zero impact on Lamar.

  35. This really isn’t a big deal, there’s a legitimate argument for Wilson too.

    Jackson in my opinion was better but that doesn’t mean no others could be argued either

  36. So while Polian has admitted that Jackson is, in fact, a quarterback and not a wide receiver, he’s not ready to admit that Jackson is the best quarterback in the NFL.

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    Because he ISN’T the best QB in the league. Not by a long shot. Amazing RB, however.

  37. Jackson was not necessarily “obviously” a quarterback to most coming out of Louisville as Polian had plenty of support at the time regardless of how disingenuously some people choose to remember that now.

  38. This site hates Bill Polian you know who I feel sorry for the Russel Wilson. In what world does a guy get criticized for voting for Russel Wilson. This world I guess.

  39. I enjoy reading how sensitive patriots fans are, “Bill Polian is an idiot because he said the patriots aren’t as good as they think they are” hahaha softest, most insecure fanbase possible. Why do you care so much what Bill Polian or anyone else thinks? Don’t the stats speak for themself? Or are you so insecure because you know he’s right?

  40. billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

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    The question is who was the best QB throughout THIS regular season (weeks 1-17). The answer is Lamar Jackson without any doubt.

    Still disagree with you. Put him in any other offense and see what happens.

    I can understand his MVP credentials, but he really is not the best quarterback in the league, not even for this season. I’m surprised he got that many All Pro votes for QB to begin with

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    What? That is not the criteria, nor does it make any sense. Put Peyton Manning, in his prime, in “another offense” such as in the Wing T or Triple Option and see how he does. Makes no sense. Put RW, AROD, DWatson or anyone else on the Ravens offense and they wont do what L-Jax did. L-JAX was the ENTIRE offense. Lamar also played nearly 100% of his snaps at QB, so I dont know what you are implying when you say “I’m surprised he got that many All Pro votes for QB to begin with.” What other position would he get votes at?

    It sounds like you are only concerned with “passing” as if that is the only thing a QB is supposed to do or be evaluated on, which is certainly wrong. Even still, Lamar led the NFL in TD passes while only throwing 6 INTs. Lamar also led the NFL in QB Rating by 5.3 points, and was nearly 10 points better than number 3. Lamar was also third in strictly passer rating, seven points higher than RW. The only players higher than Lamar for passer rating played in only 11 and 12 games.

    Moreover, Lamar led the NFL in total Tds, was the number 6 rusher in rushing yards, led the league in YPC by 1.3 yards, and led the NFL in total yards accounted for.

    Simply put, its not even close this year in terms of who the “all-pro” was. All-Pro is who was the best player at a position in a given season.

    The question is not who would you draft, the question is not who will be better next year or in the long run, or who was better last year or for their career. The question is simply who was the best player to play the position under center this season and it is Lamar. All numbers say so and so does the eye test.

  41. venomraider says:
    January 3, 2020 at 5:39 pm
    So while Polian has admitted that Jackson is, in fact, a quarterback and not a wide receiver, he’s not ready to admit that Jackson is the best quarterback in the NFL.

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    Because he ISN’T the best QB in the league. Not by a long shot. Amazing RB, however.

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    I guess Lamar is the first “RB” to lead the league in touchdown passes and QBR?


  42. kemp13 says:
    January 3, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    To Bill Polian if a quarterback doesn’t look and play like Jim Kelly or Peyton Manning, he’s not worthy.

    Needless to say, his “talent” at evaluating football talent evaporated a couple decades ago. Not sure why he’s considered a good talking head.”

    HE LITERALLY VOTED FOR RUSSEL WILSON

    DOES WILSON LOOK LIKE KELLY OR MANNING TO YOU?!?

    People are dumb

  43. Not a big shocker Big Dumbass wouldn’t vote for Jackson. He is only in the Hall of Fame because of the no brainer pick Payton Manning. Which only got the Colts one Superbowl win.

  44. I loathe the Ravens and their crybaby coach, but I will say Lamar is the best QB in the NFL right now. I’ll wait and see if he can sustain it, but the proof of what he was this season is in the wreckage of teams he left in his wake. If you are an analyst and don’t admit that, it’s because you don’t care about winning. He’s smart, throws really well, runs well and doesn’t put himself in harm’s way very much. That’s about all the things you can ask a QB to do.

  45. Lamar the rb rushed for more yards than the whole Dolphins team combined multiplied by 2. Lamar the QB had 36 passing tds which is a Ravens franchise record. Lamar the superstar has the equipment manager for the ravens working even harder with the bag of autographed jerseys that he hands out to fellow players after the game. Lamar the pro-bowler has taken Maholmes talent and added to it by being able to rush the ball as well as throw. Lamar the all-pro is throwing dimes to players who the average fan can’t even name but sure we see stuff like this from at least 1 qb every year so why be enamored with it now. Polian is an old man who will need years to come around to QBs not having to look like Manning anymore.

  46. Lamar Jackson is thriving in that system and shredding the NFL.
    I’m curious to see how the NFL adapts in 2020. They will have had a year of tape and an off season to think about it.
    I fully credit the Ravens for building a system well suited to LJ. Many an OC would insist that LJ adapt to the OCs system.

    But when you say who is the best QB, it’s not clear to me what the answer is. I’d rather have Russel Wilson than Lamar Jackson, at least for the next several years. I’d rather have Pat Mahomes than LJ. The big question mark is what if you don’t have a good Oline, how would LJ perform? If he had the Jets Oline he’d probably be among the worst starters in the NFL. The Jets Oline is terrible at run blocking.

    It will be a treat to watch all 3 QBs in the post season (LJ, Pat Mahomes, Russel Wilson). I hope all do well.

  47. joel g says:
    January 3, 2020 at 5:47 pm
    Institutional racism is a funny thing.
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    Wilson is black. Please don’t bring racism into this.

  48. Polian has, and, always will be the most overrated NFL executive ever. While I’ll give him credit for helping create the early 90’s Bills, you saw that as time went on, and he got older, he lost touch. Anyone with a tiny brain cell could of taken Manning and hired a top coaching candidate in Tony Dungy. He never gave Manning a great defense. He could build a team to be good but never great. In the 2010’s, his comments and talent evaluations just showed that he lost touch. Not voting for Jackson shows that either he is a moron, which I don’t think, is a racist, which I don’t have any evidence, or he is just stuck in 1995 thinking that the QB should fit how he thinks they should fit.

  49. Bill Polian = Joe Biden. gaffe

    an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder.
    “an unforgivable social gaffe”

  50. Lamar Jackson HASN’T DONE ANYTHING YET!! Slow your roll people how many big games has he won? NONE!! We’ve heard all of these things before haven’t we? Mike Vick was gonna change the quarterback position…Oh there’s never been anyone quiet like him he’s unreal…Cam Newton was gonna change the quarterback position…Oh he’s so big and strong there’s never been a quarterback quite like him…RGIII was gonna change the quarterback position…Oh he’s faster than Vick with a better arm boy oh boy look out he’s gonna be great…Andrew I Quit Luck was gonna change the quarterback position look out he’s gonna be a multiple Superbowl winner….And how many Superbowls did all of these guys win combined? That’s right ZERO!!

  51. I’m not agreeing with Polian; but I’m trying to figure out what he was thinking:

    If you’re old school and think a QB is solely a passer; than Wilson gets the edge with about a 1000 more yards and better a slightly better Yards/Attempt number (7.8 vs. 8.0).

    Of course if you factor in the rushing; then…while Wilson is an excellent runner (342 yards 3TDs), Jackson is in a league of his own (1206 yards 7TDs).

  52. “Bill Polian and two Sirius colleagues did not vote Lamar Jackson All-Pro”

    My goodness. Do you think Mr. Jackson will need comforting. perhaps a safe space? The Ravens ought to have counselors available for the team over the weekend.

    Really, why would Mr. Jackson care? Why is this even news?

  53. billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.

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    That is clearly not the question to someone who is paying attention. The question is: “Who was the MVP in 2019?”. The answer is Lamar Jackson. That does not make him the best quarterback in the league. That does not make him better than anyone overall.

  54. Polian is a complete fraud and should have his gold jacket rescinded to make the Hall of Fame actually mean something. His presence is a giant stain on the HOF.

  55. shyts7 says:
    January 3, 2020 at 6:28 pm
    Polian has, and, always will be the most overrated NFL executive ever. While I’ll give him credit for helping create the early 90’s Bills, you saw that as time went on, and he got older, he lost touch. Anyone with a tiny brain cell could of taken Manning and hired a top coaching candidate in Tony Dungy. He never gave Manning a great defense. He could build a team to be good but never great. In the 2010’s, his comments and talent evaluations just showed that he lost touch. Not voting for Jackson shows that either he is a moron, which I don’t think, is a racist, which I don’t have any evidence, or he is just stuck in 1995 thinking that the QB should fit how he thinks they should fit.

    Congrats. Pretty much everything said in this diatribe is completely wrong. Dungy was not a slam dunk hire as he had been fired by TB because his offenses weren’t good enough to get them over the hump. Manning was not the slam dunk number one in fact quite a few had Ryan Leaf rated as good or better. He gave Dungy enough Defensive talent to have a top ten defense in points allowed in 4 out of his 7 seasons as HC. The Colts had a losing season 3 times in Polians tenure with the last one coming when they lost Manning early in the season. That team went 11-5 the following year with Luck as a rookie.

    The man built 3 different teams that were serious SB contenders. You can disagree with his opinion on Jackson, but it is beyond ridiculous to question the mans history and credentials.

  56. That is clearly not the question to someone who is paying attention. The question is: “Who was the MVP in 2019?”. The answer is Lamar Jackson. That does not make him the best quarterback in the league. That does not make him better than anyone overall.

    This was about voting for the QB on the All Pro team; not the MVP. You obviously weren’t paying attention.

  57. He wouldn’t get my vote either. I have too many questions about Bluetooth Guy and what he was doing standing right next to Harbaugh’s ear and have not gotten a satisfactory answer yet from the R*vens or the NFL.

    I don’t like cheaters.

  58. gohawks7 says:
    January 3, 2020 at 5:24 pm
    It depends on how the voter defines an All-Pro QB. Is it based on how well he throws the ball and plays the position as a QB…or is it how many wins he generated for his team.

    As far as how many wins Jackson lead his team to….sure…he’s All-Pro. If that is your criteria.

    If it’s how well a QB actually played the position as a traditional QB, then Jackson ranked 9th in completion %, 22nd in total passing yards, 10th in int %, 11th in yard/att…so for someone to think that there is a better passer in the league…that isn’t too far fetched.
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    Did you intentionally leave out TD PASSES??

  59. gohawks7 says:
    January 3, 2020 at 5:24 pm
    It depends on how the voter defines an All-Pro QB. Is it based on how well he throws the ball and plays the position as a QB…or is it how many wins he generated for his team.

    As far as how many wins Jackson lead his team to….sure…he’s All-Pro. If that is your criteria.

    If it’s how well a QB actually played the position as a traditional QB, then Jackson ranked 9th in completion %, 22nd in total passing yards, 10th in int %, 11th in yard/att…so for someone to think that there is a better passer in the league…that isn’t too far fetched.

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    “Throwing the ball” is not the only thing a QB does to “play the position as a QB.” The QB is the person on the field that receives the ball from the center at the snap. The QB has many ways to achieve the ultimate goal: move the ball down the field and score a touchdown. This includes “reading” the defense pre-snap, “reading” the defense post snap, and then making decisions on what to with the ball (run, handoff, toss, pass to different options). The QB then has to execute the decision he makes. It doesnt matter how the ball is advanced by the QB so long as it is advanced.

    That said, you forgot that Lamar was number 1 in TD passes and number 1 in QBR. The stats you have higlighted such as passing yards are misleading because Lamar does not need to throw nearly as often because his team scores frequently, plays from ahead, and almost never trials. Lamar has been so good he has not needed to play a lot of fourth quarters and almost never passing to come back.

    Jamies Winston is number 1 in passing yards (a stat you touted). Yet Lamar has more TDS and 24 fewer interceptions!! Likewise, Derek Carr is second in completion %, yet threw for 15 fewer touchdowns than Lamar while throwing more ints. We have stats liek QBR and passer reason for a reason.

    Not to mention Lamar led the NFL in YPC and was 6th overall in rushing, led the league in total tds and yards accounted for.

  60. It’s certainly fair to criticize Polian on this one. But to degrade his body of work and direct influence in building championship caliber teams shows the profound ignorance of the folks that frequent PFT. Explain away his teams in Buffalo, Carolina, and Indianapolis. One would have to be intellectually dishonest if you didn’t want him calling the shots in creating the roster for your team. In this day and age it’s so easy to research people; might want to give it a shot rather than sounding off with unjustified criticism.

  61. Jackson is having a great season, no doubt but as far as being the best QB in the league. No. As far as a QB having the most value to his team. Carson Wentz. My vote for allpro…Brady / Brees / Wilson / Mahomes over Jackson.

  62. billymutt says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    Not a big fan of Bill Polian, but if the question is whether Jackson is the best quarterback in the league, I fully agree with him: he is not. Not by a long shot.
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    You and Polian are wrong. The MVP is the best person playing QB this year.
    *Mic Drop*

  63. Well they are entitled to their opinions. We can agree to disagree. But Lamar has shocked all expectations this year. Like that of Patrick Mahomes of Chiefs!

  64. Lamar is NOT A QB. He cannot be the best. And he’s not even the best running back. Where is the controversy?

  65. The guy whipped Russell Wilson’s team heads up. Good example of how hard it is to overcome bias. The guy has been the best quarterback by far and he has sat on the bench a lot of games in the fourth quarter.

  66. Pat Kirwan is friends with Pete Carroll, and they used to work together with the Jets. So no surprise there.

  67. The QB position is the PRIMARY passing element of the game. A running back primarily runs the ball. And it is so rare that a running back throws that you cannot say throwing is part of his job.

  68. Dude played the best at his position. If Tom Brady had the same passing stats nobody would blink at him being all-pro. Only difference is that Lamar adder a bunch more stats rushing the ball

  69. Is clearly wrong about Jackson but clearly right about the Patriot quote about not as good as people think they are.

  70. I don’t know about Polian but I listen to Kirwin and Miller on Sirius and they have had high praise for Jackson all year, especially Kirwin. They must have their reasons, lots of NFL experience and Miller did play that very position in the NFL.

  71. Polian is a big idiot. over rated GM. Peyton made him look good and football knowledgeable.
    Can’t never go wrong with Russ as All-Pro. But Lamar deserve it over everybody this season… The old man polian is hating

  72. I’m a big Lamar Jackson fan and think he has been the best overall QB this year. Bill Polian doesn’t think he was and I think Polian is still reacting to the “wrath” he got about Lamar being a QB. I have listened quite a bit to Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller and they know their football and I respect their opinion.

  73. Jackson isn’t the best QB. He is a scheme player. One bad hit and he will be the next RG3 because his throwing isn’t even close to being elite. He has a great year but his ability to sustain it will be directly related to the scheme and his health.

  74. Polian is a dope. Reminds me of Charlie Casserly. Both should shut their mouth. This is a guy who said he had a “first round grade” on Tom Brady.Yet he did not consider drafting him, Granted he already had Peyton, but he has also spoken about the need of a good backup. Wait for a few years and he say he believed all along that Lamar Jackson was a top qb. (He believed Lamar needed to move to wr in NFL

  75. he had a hell of a year…but as soon as they can contain his legs he’s done…everything he makes happen through the air is a product of his incredible running…..like rg3 and kaep in the read option that tore the league up in 2012 and the wild cat teams will catch up and he won’t be a thing anymore..it may happen in the playoffs

  76. With regards to Lamar Jackson’s career, it’s way too early to admit who was right and who was wrong. He’s clearly the MVP of 2019, but nobody knows the future. Look at Andrew Luck and RG3. RG3 was rookie of the year, so the people who preferred him over Luck were taking a bow. Then RG3 got hurt and Luck started looking like a future HOFer, and the RG3 crowd either went into hiding or started blaming others. Now Luck is retired due to injury, and the conversation has changed again. Bill Polian isn’t necessarily wrong if he didn’t think Jackson was an elite NFL QB who will eventually be a HOFer. It’s way too early for that conversation, but the 2019 MVP conversation is a dishonest one, to say the least. I love Russell Wilson, but you can defend him. You can’t defend Lamar Jackson. An injury is the only thing that will stop him, and the future is not something the 2019 MVP voters are asked to predict. They didn’t even need to vote this year. It was a one horse race. It’s like not voting for Secretariat for Horse Of The Year in 1973 when he won the Triple Crown. There sometimes reaches a point where you just have to have pity for some people, and move on.

  77. Players don’t care about the actual awards. The only thing any award might bring them is a bigger paycheck. The players care about getting paid. Why anyone cares who wins what is absurd. To Lamar Jackson, an MVP or All Pro nod means he can earn an extra few million per year on his next contract.

  78. What a joke.

    The award isn’t going to be the best QB in the NFL.

    It’s an MVP award. Clearly Lamar Jackson is the MVP. It couldn’t be MORE clear.

    Very bad look for Polian. He should have his credentials removed.

  79. Football is a zero-sum game… Polian in his old school thinking of what it takes to put together a winning football would never be successful in today’s NFL… That’s why football has passed him by… Lamar Jackson was not just the best QB in the NFL, but hands down the best offensive player in the NFL. Too many times a QB is judged by how many yards he passes for or completion %, Jackson’s stats were deeper than those two categories after two losses early in the season Jackson lift his game to a level that has not been seen in the NFL since Cam Newton went 15-1 in 2015 and Tom Brady who went 14-2 in 2010. Jackson also led the NFL in TDs, while improving his Cmp% from 58% to 66.1, and QBR 81.1 and QB Rating of 113.3 with nine games with QB Rating of over 100+ with only 23 sacks. Jackson stat is so in-depth that if you look them objectively it’s amazing that Lamar is a second-year QB in the NFL. Jackson also was the 6th leading rusher in the NFK with 176 carries, 1,206 YD, 6.9 avg, and 7 TD all in 15 games. The Raven saw what a of NFL GMs missed and that is a talent like Lamar Jackson only comes around once or twice in a decade.

  80. Problem is Napoleon (no mistake) strongly beleieved LJ was not an NFL QB. As for Kirwin and Miller, I’m disappointed in those guys because their show provides a great deal of insight. However, their closeness with their guests(Carroll and Wilson) show me their opinion for this vote was certainly influenced. While it’s their vote it’s also true that if they are the professional experts they claim to be, they would have voted for LJ. His play was exemplary for 16 games. Too bad Jim & Pat that you guys are on the wrong side of this one!

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