Patriots expect Josh McDaniels to leave, if he gets an offer

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Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is under consideration for three head coaching jobs, with the Panthers, Giants, and Browns. And for the first time since he returned to New England after a failed tenure in Denver and a short-term stint with the Rams, McDaniels is available to be hired less than one week into the cycle.

Like they were two years ago, the Patriots are bracing for McDaniels to leave, if he gets an offer.

In early 2018, the Patriots were bracing for McDaniels to leave for the Colts. He told the Colts he’d take the job, but then McDaniels changed his mind and stayed. This time, any verbal acceptance can quickly be followed by a signed contract, preventing second thoughts or a last-ditch effort by the Patriots to change his mind.

It’s unclear whether McDaniels will get an offer. He wouldn’t get the keys to the car in New York, and Browns chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta is a potential impediment to McDaniels running the show in Cleveland. It remains to be seen whether Carolina owner David Tepper would let his coach call the shots.

Regardless of whether McDaniels has the kind of control he had in Denver, the Patriots believe that an offer to coach elsewhere will finally result in McDaniels leaving New England, again.

70 responses to “Patriots expect Josh McDaniels to leave, if he gets an offer

  1. I don’t think he leaves unless he gets to be the final decision maker. And I do not blame him
    Who wants to be judged based on a team he did not put together

  2. revren10 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    Why would anyone want him as their head coach he drafted Tebow in the first round

    This comment is getting stupid

    So what he took a shot, it’s the draft the whole thing is a crap shoot.
    Didn’t he also draft DT?

  3. I thought he was kind of a head coach in waiting for NE when Bill decides to hang it up. I guess at this point he needs to strike while the iron is still hot. If NE has another offensive performance like this season he won’t be such a hot commodity anymore.

  4. The Pats will let McD leave, so Beli-sneak can hire another one of his relatives for the coaching staff.

  5. He’s gone. Tom Brady is leaving and Pats fans need to come to grips with that. TB voided the last year of his contract and put his home in the Boston area up for sale. No Brady means McDaniel’s stock can only go down and he’ll be staring at 20 million guaranteed if he leaves.

  6. after three straight runs to the same side on first and goal from the one, i hope he goes. his play calls from there killed us. run right it had been working every time. we go up 17-7 we win that game handily. woulda reduced henrys role in the second half, as we showed we had no answer for his power. we need some more strength up front no doubt about it.

  7. Flash1211 says:

    January 5, 2020 at 4:57 pm

    revren10 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    Why would anyone want him as their head coach he drafted Tebow in the first round

    This comment is getting stupid

    So what he took a shot, it’s the draft the whole thing is a crap shoot.
    Didn’t he also draft DT?

    So you’d be good with this dude making draft decisions good luck with that without brady this dude is nothing

  8. It’s time for McDaniels and Brady to go. Same with Caserio. BB has Caserio’s replacement ready. Get back to players playing football and less talking on weekly radio shows. Edelman also has a big mouth and dropped a pass that was in his hands. The mouthy players aren’t performing like they use to.

  9. I read the comment above about him drafting Tim Tebow. If he had been Like John Harbaugh of the Ravens he would have devised an offense like Lamar Jacksons.

    Tebow was also really a running back who could throw. I actually think he would have been better in the Ravens offense than Jackson is.

  10. Why would anyone want him as their head coach after what he did to Indy?

    And oh look wentz is hurt already. Nice cheap shot by trashdeveon clowney.

  11. He’ll accept a HC job as long as he gets to bring along his video equipment crew he had during his tenure in Denver.

  12. “So you’d be good with this dude making draft decisions good luck with that without brady this dude is nothing”

    11-5 with Matt Cassell coming off the bench. Just sayin’.

  13. Flash1211 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 4:57 pm
    revren10 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    Why would anyone want him as their head coach he drafted Tebow in the first round

    This comment is getting stupid

    So what he took a shot, it’s the draft the whole thing is a crap shoot.
    Didn’t he also draft DT?
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    But there was no doubt that Tebow wasn’t an NFL QB. No doubt and ANYONE’s mind… Except Josh.

  14. I can see the Browns being a fit… IF he can bring Nick Caserio with him (who reportedly also has an expiring contract). Both McDaniels and Caserio are Ohio natives, went the the same small college near Canton, and have a solid relationship. There were also reports leading up to the draft two years ago that the Patriots (and McDaniels) were enamored with Mayfield, even though they didn’t pull the trigger and move up.

  15. I’ve never understood team’s obsessions with this guy. He flamed out spectacularly in Denver, especially in personnel decisions. He walked away from Indy. Remember how awesome he was as a play-caller in St. Louis?? Until proven otherwise, he’s done nothing without Tom Brady. Nothing.

    Unless Brady comes as a package deal with McDaniels, these teams would be getting fools gold.

    His second chance will resemble Pat Shurmur’s more-so than Bill Belichick.

  16. Tebow never got his shot, in his first full season they won the division and beat the steelers in the playoffs, when he took over for orton they went on a 6 game win streak, after denver there were toom many cooks in the kitchen that only harmed tebow in the long run

  17. For you younger Pats fans out there, the upcoming offseason is what most other fans call “rebuilding.”

  18. I voted for Nixon did you ever see Tebow play in the nfl. You said he was a running back who could actually throw? Idk what games you watched of Tebow but the dude could not throw at all. He was all running back. That was a bad take by you. Lamar Jackson with his eyes closed is a better thrower than Timmy

  19. ?W? says:

    January 5, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    “So you’d be good with this dude making draft decisions good luck with that without brady this dude is nothing”

    11-5 with Matt Cassell coming off the bench. Just sayin’.

    65.3 QBR yeah he did such a great job

  20. Who would want him?,his offense was pathetic and he drafted tebow and failed horribly in Denver

  21. 1. His offense is terrible 2. His word is no good 3. He’ll spend the entire time looking for loopholes to exploit in his contract 4. Who needs that kind of headache?

  22. billsrthefuture says:
    January 5, 2020 at 5:52 pm
    For you younger Pats fans out there, the upcoming offseason is what most other fans call “rebuilding.”

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    yes true. bills fans know all about rebuilding. how many times have they rebuilt over the past 20 plus seasons? so while most call it rebuilding, patriots call it reloading, bc we will refuse to give up this division. nothing buffalo has done, including being swept by us, has shown they are ready.

  23. Cleveland already stated GM picks the roster and coach is in charge of the 53 and coach will have say in who the GM is. Not sure why so much talk about Depodesta. The dude lives in California so he’s not even in the Browns office. If he had as much say as people think Freddie Kitchens never would have been hired to begin with.

  24. tigerlilac says:
    Did Sean Payton grow up in Napa Valley? It had to be somewhere that enjoys their whine.
    ==

    Typical. A fan of an offensively impotent team that was unceremoniously dumped on its rear end — at home, by a lower seeded opponent — in the earliest round of the playoffs, is now whining about another team’s alleged “whining.”
    Shouldn’t you be doing some reading and getting ready for the Patriots’ draft?

  25. i remember when tebow joined the pats. went to a preseason game and he was comign in to play. the entire stadium was abuzz wondering what we would get to see from him. first series, interception. half the the stadium got up and left in unison. nobody has a problem with tebows strong faith, they just have a problem with him using his platform to be way too overzealous about it to build his brand. came off as more of a marketing scheme than actual faith.

  26. Did anyone watch the Pats this year? Yes Brady regressed….and instead of going with screen passes (they were the #1 screen pass team for the past decade) and keeping James White involved, McDaniels opted to treat the offense like it had 2007 Brady at the helm. Awful play calling the whole year.

  27. To you younger pats fans,in the voice of Mr. Rodgers can yoj say Irrevelant???? That is what pats gonna be for the next 10 yrs.

  28. “yes true. bills fans know all about rebuilding. how many times have they rebuilt over the past 20 plus seasons? so while most call it rebuilding, patriots call it reloading, bc we will refuse to give up this division. nothing buffalo has done, including being swept by us, has shown they are ready.”

    Oh, yeah – it was a rough couple of decades alright. No doubt.

    But, it’s over, as is your team’s run. My pft name says it all. Enjoy the DVD’s – the future of the division belongs to Buffalo. You can “refuse” to give up the division all you want, but BB is getting old, Brady is basically done, and this offseason will be a fairly unprecedented exodus of good players & coaches.

  29. “TB voided the last year of his contract and put his home in the Boston area up for sale.”

    Means nothing. Perhaps he wants a different house. Brady can live in any of multiple houses.

    Brady did not void his contract. Even if he had, Brady has changed/renegotiated his contract many times. Any change to his current contract means nothing to whether he is leaving or not.

  30. So you’d be good with this dude making draft decisions good luck with that without brady this dude is nothing
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    So I guess that means Walsh was a terrible coach without Montana, Auerbach without Russell need we go on? What a ridiculous point

  31. McDaniels will fail. His abrasive napoleon complex style doesn’t sit well with coaches or players. People outside of Denver don’t understand how bad this guy was. He is a cancer and by the end of his tenure in Denver his own coaches were throwing him under the bus to the national media. He managed to throw out a great defensive coordinator who had success in his first year, Mike Nolan. And he cut a punter on the most unimpressive 6-0 team you’ve ever seen before tanking the rest of the way. BTW, that punter was Brett Kern who is now with the Titans who had a nice punt to the 1 yard line last night.

  32. If he goes to NY or Cleveland, he’d be inheriting a quarterback.

    If they had a shot at Brady they’d sit Baker in a heartbeat.

  33. billsrthefuture says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:27 pm
    “yes true. bills fans know all about rebuilding. how many times have they rebuilt over the past 20 plus seasons? so while most call it rebuilding, patriots call it reloading, bc we will refuse to give up this division. nothing buffalo has done, including being swept by us, has shown they are ready.”

    Oh, yeah – it was a rough couple of decades alright. No doubt.

    But, it’s over, as is your team’s run. My pft name says it all. Enjoy the DVD’s – the future of the division belongs to Buffalo. You can “refuse” to give up the division all you want, but BB is getting old, Brady is basically done, and this offseason will be a fairly unprecedented exodus of good players & coaches.

    ——————–

    weve been winning forever. because of that weve seen coaches come and go and still prevailed. every year every bills fan says next year is our year. and it never is. your username is wrong is all. your coaching staff choked a win away and your qb looked very poor yesterday. not so sure why you feel so encouraged by that.

  34. dregonspengler says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:23 pm
    tigerlilac says:
    Did Sean Payton grow up in Napa Valley? It had to be somewhere that enjoys their whine.
    ==
    Typical. A fan of an offensively impotent team that was unceremoniously dumped on its rear end — at home, by a lower seeded opponent — in the earliest round of the playoffs, is now whining about another team’s alleged “whining.”
    Shouldn’t you be doing some reading and getting ready for the Patriots’ draft?
    —————————————————
    Exchange Saints for Patriots and… Et tu Brute?

  35. Matt Bjorke says:

    January 5, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    Revren10,

    McDaniels also made a playoff game with Tebow at QB.

    You mean jon fox made a playoff game with Tebow. Mcdaniels got fired after starting 3-9 in 2010 season.

  36. “weve been winning forever. because of that weve seen coaches come and go and still prevailed. every year every bills fan says next year is our year. and it never is. your username is wrong is all. your coaching staff choked a win away and your qb looked very poor yesterday. not so sure why you feel so encouraged by that.”

    You mean our 23-year-old QB, who improved immeasurably this year over last, and played pretty great in his 1st playoff game, save for a few bad plays at the end? (which he’ll learn & grow from).

    The Bills will be fine. We’ve got one of the best young GM’s in the league, and really, they’re just getting started. Yesterday was a 50/50 game & the Texans took it at home. Next year, the Bills will have to win the division so they can get a bye & at least one home game. The process continues.

    Meanwhile, Brady looked awful yesterday. A pick 6 to end it, and another that should have been at the end of the 1st half. And BB gameplanned poorly. Choking? How about getting beat by a 6 seed in a home game?

    Nah – the Pats had a great run, but I don’t see it continuing. Let the Stidham era begin (he started his career w/ a pick 6, right?)

  37. revren10 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:40 pm
    Matt Bjorke says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:13 pm
    Revren10,
    McDaniels also made a playoff game with Tebow at QB.
    You mean jon fox made a playoff game with Tebow. Mcdaniels got fired after starting 3-9 in 2010 season.
    ——————————–
    Actually, Tebow made 2 playoff games with Denver. First he kicked Steelers out of the playoffs, then he got humiliated by Patriots and kicked out of the playoffs himself.

  38. switchwitch59 says:
    Exchange Saints for Patriots and… Et tu Brute?
    ==

    Et tu Brute? Sorry, no. You got emotional over my criticism and assumed I was a Saints fan. I’m not. My team is still alive in the playoffs. I’m not whining about anything; merely calling out out a hypocrite.

  39. dregonspengler says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:47 pm
    switchwitch59 says:
    Exchange Saints for Patriots and… Et tu Brute?
    ==
    Et tu Brute? Sorry, no. You got emotional over my criticism and assumed I was a Saints fan. I’m not. My team is still alive in the playoffs. I’m not whining about anything; merely calling out out a hypocrite.
    —————————————–
    Not emotional about anything to do with football, I have a life, thank you. If your team really is still playing, good luck to them.

  40. The reason why the Patriots lost was very simple and is the same reason they looked very average for most of the season despite going 12-4 – Brady didn’t have Gronk as his safety valve. It didn’t matter if he was quadruple-teamed, Gronk was always open if Brady got into trouble.

    As for McDaniels, since he’s no longer the heir apparent in NE, of course he’ll take one of the open positions.

  41. I don’t see him getting an offer after this seasons work. He doesn’t know defense. Besides he worked with drop back qb, not a rpo prospect.
    Carolina maybe but I think they found there guy.

  42. footballpat says:

    January 5, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    So you’d be good with this dude making draft decisions good luck with that without brady this dude is nothing
    ——————————
    So I guess that means Walsh was a terrible coach without Montana, Auerbach without Russell need we go on? What a ridiculous point

    Oh yes I forgot he is such a great coach he got fired in less then two season with the broncos and lasted one season with the rams before being fired again. He hasn’t proven he can win without Brady. But great job putting hall of fame coaches in your post to try and defend josh mcdaniels it was cute

  43. Another overrated coach from the rotting Belichick’s tree, just like the failure Crennel and that fat slob coordinator Weis, who stunk at Notre Dame.

  44. billsrthefuture says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:45 pm
    “weve been winning forever. because of that weve seen coaches come and go and still prevailed. every year every bills fan says next year is our year. and it never is. your username is wrong is all. your coaching staff choked a win away and your qb looked very poor yesterday. not so sure why you feel so encouraged by that.”

    You mean our 23-year-old QB, who improved immeasurably this year over last, and played pretty great in his 1st playoff game, save for a few bad plays at the end? (which he’ll learn & grow from).

    The Bills will be fine. We’ve got one of the best young GM’s in the league, and really, they’re just getting started. Yesterday was a 50/50 game & the Texans took it at home. Next year, the Bills will have to win the division so they can get a bye & at least one home game. The process continues.

    Meanwhile, Brady looked awful yesterday. A pick 6 to end it, and another that should have been at the end of the 1st half. And BB gameplanned poorly. Choking? How about getting beat by a 6 seed in a home game?

    Nah – the Pats had a great run, but I don’t see it continuing. Let the Stidham era begin (he started his career w/ a pick 6, right?)

    —————————-

    all were gonna do is resign brady and give him some actual weapons. well be fine. your bills were swept by a patriots team with a poor oline and no offensive weapons at all. 1st game ended with a josh allen fumble second in our red zone bc your qb couldnt get it done. your team had an actual huge lead in the playoffs and gave it all away, bc your coach got outcoached by bill o brien of all people.

  45. newenglandynasty says:
    January 5, 2020 at 5:02 pm
    It’s time to move in from McDaniels. Thank you and Good Luck

    61 11 Rate This

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    I think it is clear Brady and McD need a divorce at this point. They fed
    one another into this mess.

  46. biilsarethefuture, I realize you responded to an obtuse comment about the Bills but two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Brady didn’t play awful but the Patriots offense didn’t make plays.

    The almost pick-6 you reference should have been caught by Watson. The actual pick-6 was a frustration throw (again tipped by the receiver) after a desperation punt block didn’t work, the kick rolled about 20 yards before being downed at the one, leaving 15 seconds on the clock.

    Brady had the Pats in place for the first half touchdowns but settled for two field goals after a drop on the first and three ineffective runs starting at the 1-yard line on the second. Those non TDs aren’t on Brady.

    On the drive to try to win it in the last five minutes, Harry had a bad drop and Edelman had a drop that would have given them a first down close to field goal territory and Belichick decided to punt.

    Despite all of the above, and Henry running for over 200 yards, it was a 1 point game.

  47. All true, tigerlilac. That poster was just buggin’ me over on the Bills articles today, saying Allen was terrible & that there isn’t any hope.

    For what it’s worth, with 9 seconds left, I was still convinced Brady would find a way to tie the game.

  48. I have thought that McDaniels was the heir apparent to Bill Belichick but as some of the comments here say, I’m no longer so sure about this.

    Distill it as well: Bill Belichick flamed out in Cleveland, McDaniels flamed out in Denver, so who knows.

    I absolutely don’t think Brady will play for another team.

  49. thejetssuck2001 says:
    January 5, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    …we will refuse to give up this division. nothing buffalo has done, including being swept by us, has shown they are ready.

    *******************************************************************************

    Comments where people talk like they’re part of the team. Always good for a laugh.

  50. First. Josh never made the playoffs as a head coach.
    Second. He has never proven anything other than being a decent OC with Brady as his QB.
    Third. Elway had nothing to do with McD other than replacing him. Stop the false narrative.
    Fourth. He will take a job and leave it. Within 3 years or 3 weeks. Without success. Guaranteed. History has already proven this.
    Fifth. BONUS. Tebow is no Lamar.
    Thank you.

  51. I’d hire McDaniels and give him full control. It’s working with Kyle Shanahan, and Gruden looks like he’s building the Raiders the right way too. It’s working with Andy Reid and it’s worked with Belichick. Nobody is guaranteed to win, but why not give him a shot? If his biggest mistake was drafting Tim Tebow, well, Tebow led the Broncos to a playoff victory as a rookie. So if that’s the worst thing he’s done, I’d hire him yesterday. I don’t know of too many coaches, other than Joe Gibbs, who have won consistently without a HOF QB, so why hold that against Josh McDaniels?

  52. Enjoy the DVD’s – the future of the division belongs to Buffalo. You can “refuse” to give up the division all you want, but BB is getting old, Brady is basically done, and this offseason will be a fairly unprecedented exodus of good players & coaches.

    What is a dvd?

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