Marvin Lewis: Can’t tell owners who to hire

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Marvin Lewis understands there’s a problem.

But beyond increasing the opportunities for younger coaches in coordinator positions, he’s not sure what more can be done to increase the number of minority coaches in the NFL.

“You keep beating your head up against the wall, but I would say — and again, this is somebody’s business, this is somebody’s franchise, and nobody’s going to tell them who to hire,” Lewis said during an interview on ESPN Radio. “But if we can just somehow open the process a bit more and provide more opportunity [then more coaches could get hired].”

Lewis coached the Bengals for 16 years, and was the coach of the year in 2009.

His interview with the Cowboys before they hired Mike McCarthy allowed Jerry Jones to satisfy the Rooney Rule, and it was his only interview so far this offseason.

He said he still thinks going through the process is good for minority candidates, though many interviews appear to be an exercise in box-checking.

When Washington hired former Panthers coach Ron Rivera, it kept the number of minority coaches in the league at four, with just one vacancy remaining (Cleveland).

30 responses to “Marvin Lewis: Can’t tell owners who to hire

  1. Marvin isn’t a good coach period. He should’t be and NFL head coach under any circumstance.

  2. Considering how long he was employed and how many chances he was given after poor seasons, I hope he won’t complain too loudly.

    Wheels are turning; more black coaches are getting chances and some are getting sustained chances. Lewis 16 years, Tomlin 12 years, Lynn getting a 3rd year despite mediocre results, Flores being given time to build. Caldwell was probably fired too soon but still got 4 years, despite diminishing returns. More will come. 5 white coaches lost their jobs this year, that will likely happen next year too.

    I think the bigger question at the moment is where are the black college coaches? So many of the young hires in recent years have come straight from or recently from college. Are there fewer black college coaches, or are they there and not being looked at? (I don’t follow college ball.)

  3. Lewis os the proof that there isnt any racial bias in coaching hiring. He was a so so coach that never won a playoff game (Jason Garret is much more criticized And have multiple playoff wins) And had a headcoaching job for more than a decade.

  4. Wanna get to the playoffs and ousted immediately? Hire Marvin Lewis. That’s what his track record is and likely more of a reason he is not getting looks than the fact he is a minority. Diversity for the sake of diversity is asinine. The league is evolving and he is an old school coach that has proven time and time again he can’t get it done. I’d rather roll the dice with an unknown than hire a retread.

  5. steelerguy says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:00 am
    Marvin might do much better if he can separate from Hue Jackson. No owner wants that much losing history in the building.
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    Marvin Lewis’ success was pretty much based on the fact that he had good coordinators at times. Jay Gruden called a good offense, was a bad HC. Mike Zimmer called a great defense, was a good HC. Hue Jackson called a really good offense and was an all-time terrible HC. His ability to be a quality Offensive Coordinator has nothing to do with what happened in Cleveland and Marvin is smart to keep him around if Marvin ever gets another HC job.

  6. If Lewis was serious about coaching, he’d go back and be a coordinator for a couple years. He didn’t have a bad run as a coach but also didn’t have a great run. Garrett had a better overall record and actually won some playoff games. If Lewis could show he still has it as a coordinator, it would likely open up some opportunities.

  7. Would love to see this guy coaching the Browns
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    I almost fell off of my chair laughing

  8. It’s easy to see that there aren’t many minority head coaches, but who is out there that would be an obvious candidate besides Bieniemy?
    As pointed out be others, there aren’t many minority college coaches at major programs.
    It seems like there’s as much an issue at the bottom of the pipeline as at the top.

  9. No there isn’t a problem. Marvin Lewis has proven who he is. Quit with this affirmative action crap and let the best/most qualified man win.

  10. 19dead2 says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:08 am
    Marvin isn’t a good coach period. He should’t be and NFL head coach under any circumstance.

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    Look at Cincy before he got there, look how they did during his tenure, and now look at what happened the first season since they fired him. The Bengals through the 90s and very early 00s were a trashfire, then Lewis came along and gave them the most stable coaching unit they’ve had since Sam Wyche, and the first year since he’s been gone they finish with the worst record in the league. Now if you tried to make the case that he underperformed given some of his rosters given his numerous 1 and done playoff appearances then you’d have a good argument to make, and I certainly can’t call him a “great” coach by any means, but it is an inarguable fact that he is a good coach. Certainly he’s far more deserving of another HC spot than a decent portion of the guys either getting hired or who have been hired this past season.

  11. I am sure making Hue Jackson OC as part of packaged deal killed Marvin Lewis’s opportunity to be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys. I have no doubt.

  12. I’m going to have to disagree with the majority take on Marvin Lewis.
    He went 131-122 (.518) and 0-7 in the post season.

    But it was with the Bengals. The BENGALS. I’m not sure which to me more impressed with the fact that he won more than he lost or the fact that he took the Bengals (THE BENGALS) to the post season 7 (SEVEN!) times. I’m mean this isn’t the Steelers or the Cowboys were are talking about. We are talking about the BENGALS.

    Carson Palmer, Jon Kitna and Andy Dalton. I seriously think that 131-122 is simply remarkable considering the circumstances.

    Perspective: Since 1984 Bengals head coaches
    Sam Wyche 61-66 (.480) ***3-2 in the post season
    Dave Shula 19-52 (.268) and you think Lewis got a lot of rope?
    Bruce Coslet 21-39 (.350)
    Dick LeBeau 12-33 (.267)
    Zac Taylor 2-14 (.125)

  13. OBP says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:58 am
    19dead2 says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:08 am
    Marvin isn’t a good coach period. He should’t be and NFL head coach under any circumstance.

    16 23 Rate This
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    Look at Cincy before he got there, look how they did during his tenure, and now look at what happened the first season since they fired him. The Bengals through the 90s and very early 00s were a trashfire, then Lewis came along and gave them the most stable coaching unit they’ve had since Sam Wyche, and the first year since he’s been gone they finish with the worst record in the league. Now if you tried to make the case that he underperformed given some of his rosters given his numerous 1 and done playoff appearances then you’d have a good argument to make, and I certainly can’t call him a “great” coach by any means, but it is an inarguable fact that he is a good coach. Certainly he’s far more deserving of another HC spot than a decent portion of the guys either getting hired or who have been hired this past season.

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    You mean the first year coach for the Bengals couldn’t get that trash roster Marvin left him to a playoff victory , ummm how many playoff wins did Marvin have ? Yeah 1 year sample size for the new coach and already are calling him a failure … you need to look in a mirror.

  14. I heard the interview with Lewis. He made a very good point that coaches who are tied up coaching all year don’t have the time to go over the personnel of the team they get a chance to interview with, plus they don’t even know what openings might be coming, and whether those teams would call them. So he feels the only fair process would be to hold everyone off until after the season, which won’t happen.

  15. It should be about hiring the most qualified, best fit for the organization and not about skin color or satisfying a ridiculous rule to make the SJW crowd happy. This should be common sense stuff….

  16. NFL should just mandate a fifty fifty split for all coaches and players … I’m sure no one would mind being out of a job because of their skin color.

  17. The league is about making money and winning trophies; if they felt he was the best candidate, he would get the job. The only color that matters is green

  18. If they’re just “checking a box,” the process isn’t working. I’m not a proponent of the Rooney Rule – never have been. I’m more in the raidmagic group (see his comment above). But if you want to come closer to satisfying the spirit of the Rooney Rule, make ’em interview two minority candidates instead of one. It would cut down on sham interviews.

  19. I agree the Rooney Rule is not working as intended. I may have a fix, given the new contract being negotiated.

    Perhaps tie percentage of “extra” revenue sharing by NFL Owners to the percentage of minority Head Coaches. For example, if by 2025 if minority HCs are less than 35% the revenue sharing to benefit players increases by 10%. That money can go into the retirement fund, a medical fund or something that the owners would feel the pain. The revenue sharing would be adjusting for those teams demonstrating a Rooney Commitment. Perhaps the demonstration can involve a combination of a set percentage of minority coordinators & HCs.

    I know the numbers need to be worked out, but like the Salary Cap, unless there is a financial penalty, it is hard to get the Owners to move off their respective spots. If teams want to keep non minority Head Coaches and Coordinators, it will likely cost considerable sums of money. Follow the money……..

  20. chawk12thman, my problem with your plan is that it forces minority hires (and I say “force” because the owners lose money if they don’t follow your plan). That’s a problem, because the Rooney Rule only contemplates interviews. It follows, therefore, that whole idea here is to provide minority coaches some exposure, so that they will be considered for head coaching jobs along with white candidates. It’s set up to provide a more equal starting place for all candidates. Your plan forces owners to ensure that minority win the race for head coaching jobs. I dare say (being white) that that’s not what those minority coaches want. They don’t want a rigged game where a certain percentage of them are guaranteed winners; they want a game that gives them no less of a chance to win than their white counterparts.

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