Tom Brady: “I know I still have more to prove”

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After Saturday’s season-ending loss to the Titans, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said it’s “pretty unlikely” that he’ll retire. A few days later, it ain’t pretty.

“I know I still have more to prove,” Brady says at the end of an Instagram post that thanks fans for their support over the years. And while the post contains no hints about where Brady will play in 2020 or beyond, he’ll play somewhere.

Arguably, the message contains a whiff of acceptance by Brady that the deck won’t be stacked in his favor moving forward, and that his satisfaction comes not from the destination but from the chase.

“”Every one of us that works at Gillette Stadium strived to do their best,” Brady says in the message, “spent themselves to a worthy cause, and prepared to fail while daring greatly. . . . And for that, we’ve been rewarded with something that the scoreboard won’t show — the satisfaction of knowing we gave everything to each other in pursuit of a common goal. That is what TEAM is all about. . . . In both life and football, failure is inevitable. You don’t always win. You can, however, learn from that failure, pick yourself up with great enthusiasm, and place yourself in the arena again. And that’s right where you will find me.”

This new “the effort is the prize” attitude doesn’t resonate like Brady’s constant explanation that his favorite Super Bowl ring is the next one. Maybe it’s a recognition that, if he stays in New England, there will be more days like the five losses in nine games to end the season. Or maybe it’s an acknowledgement that his destination for 2020 won’t be driven by where he thinks he’ll have the best chance to win a seventh Super Bowl but other factors, professional and/or personal.

Either way, we’ll know by the middle of March whether Brady’s primary arena in 2020 will be Gillette Stadium or elsewhere.

156 responses to “Tom Brady: “I know I still have more to prove”

  1. He will go or stay with the team that gives him the best chance to win on a one year contract that is cash up front.

  2. The crybabies think “it’s over”
    Like it was “over” when they lost to Philadelphia
    He will be back in NE next year and they will add a decent TE and another talented WR
    and Andrews will be back.

  3. No Tom you don’t. You are the greatest of all time. You’ve done enough for your team, your town and your sport. Go spend some time with your family, they deserve you now.
    Thank you for being great and providing us with years of entertainment, arguments, highlights, quotes and reasons to be jealous of the Patriots. You know no one even remembers Drew ?? Bledsoe. College players weren’t even born when he left the Patriots. there are few pure roll models in pro sports, you did that too.

  4. Wow. A statement based in reality. What an odd concept. To me, what this statement does not say is TB’s eagerness to move on to “greener” pastures. Enjoy the post season.

  5. “Brobokil says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:11 am
    That’s clearly a hint that Tom Brady will…join the XFL/arena football!!! lol.”

    The AFL folded back in November.

  6. Here comes an ugly mediocre season like Manning’s last…minus a super bowl victory at the end.

  7. tb12greatest says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:05 am
    The Greatest of All Time and that there will ever be

    LOLOL

  8. The GOAT no matter what happens now. There will never be another player OR team or coach the likes of which we’ve seen from New England over the last decade or so. It was a fun ride regardless of what happens in the future to Brady, coach, or the team. What a fun group to follow they have been….

  9. Patriots will urge Tom to retire
    They will let him walk if he doesn’t.

    Pats will tank 2020 to get Trevor Lawrence.

  10. Great quarterbacks just don’t want to retire. I have no idea if BB will re-sign him. This time i don’t think Kraft will interfere.

    If they do sign him I believe they will use their first round dragt pick to take who they see as their future or attempt to trade up.

  11. Dublin Demons says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:12 am
    You know no one even remembers Drew ?? Bledsoe. College players weren’t even born when he left the Patriots. there are few pure roll models in pro sports, you did that too

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    I remember Drew Bledsoe…..he was a good QB and a really stand up guy.

  12. Really the only thing I can think of that he might have left to prove is that he can win without Belichick. It’s silly, but some people will cling to the idea that he only won because he had the best coach*. I think this is just the usual “everyone doubted us” stuff. He’ll be back with NE next season, they’ll win the division, he’ll break more records.

    *They’ll similarly claim that BB only won because he had the best Quarterback, if that’s a more convenient stance.

  13. Hope he signs with some other team and does well in 2020 while the Patriots tread .500. Then we’ll see how these Pats fans really do when they are put through ‘thick and thin’.

  14. Feels like a wasted season, wasting the defense playing in such a high gear for most of it. How they could so completely fail to put together an offense is baffling. They’re in the final years of Brady, and they can’t put together a competent receiving, TE, or running plan over the course of a full offseason and regular season?

    After all that, 12-4 and a division win seems like an accomplishment.

    One good draft and one or two good FA signings could get this all back on track, easily.

  15. the17thearlofoxford says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:29 am
    Patriots will urge Tom to retire
    They will let him walk if he doesn’t.

    Pats will tank 2020 to get Trevor Lawrence.

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    Belichick will never allow that

  16. Peyton Manning walked away a champion, but he looked horrible doing it! I’d hate to see Brady playing like that just for another ring. That said, I’d hate to see him go too.

    We have been so blessed to see this guy compete!!

  17. People want him to retire,but they won’t get their wish because he still has the skills. With the right people around him,he will prove it. I just hope he proves it as a Patriot.

  18. You gotta love this guy. Comes into the league, wants to prove he isn’t too young for success. He does. Then he starts winning MVPs and he’s in his prime, and wants to prove that he’s better than his contemporaries like Brees and Manning. He does. Now that he’s 42, still wants to prove that he’s not only washed up, but can still play at a high level, which I believe he still can. All the while, he’s remained incredibly coachable, hungry, and willing to play within the system and put his ego aside. The best quarterback you can ask for.

    Having a rocket arm, or an ‘offensive coordinator on the field’ (ala Manning), or thinking you know better than your team doesn’t serve you well in the long run. Being just smart enough to run an offense to perfection while maintaining humility and putting trust in coaches and teammates is the best approach.

  19. Probably won’t be in NE unless you want to play for less, Tom. This already would have been done last offseason in terms of a contract extension.

    That is very telling, and then you skipped OTAs again as a result. That’s also very telling.

    The lack of SB production last year and another downturn this season, where it appears you have to have more than 1 All Pro receiving option to function (while no other QB really has this in the NFL), is somewhat disturbing and I think BB sees it.

    The thing is, he did it to himself and put all kinds of pressure on himself. I warned and warned of it, but all some Pats fans see is the number and the name. They’re not looking at how he is running the offense with McDaniels and likely how frustrated BB is with all of this.

    Kraft’s words are pretty telling, too. If you read between all the lines, it’s really up to Brady playing for 50% less for it to make sense within the Pats teambuilding economic formula.

    And, it would need to be a 1 year deal.

    What I cannot stand is the morons out there claiming Brady has taken “less” as if he is some victim. The guy has a TB12 branded facility on company property. No other player in the league has this. In other words, he’s been VERY WELL compensated for years and years and will likely be handed part ownership when this is all said and done. So, enough with that garbage.

    He was paid 23 mil this year to pout, skip OTAs, be a poor leader and essentially fingerpoint towards 2 rookies because he lost a binky with ego in Gronk, Edelman was dinged up and Antonio Brown, his own approved choice (along with Sanu), all let him down in numerous ways.

    If you’re BB, you’re sitting on a redshirted 2019 draft class that will likely be very good next year, have 12 draft picks, and a targeted replacement in Stidham, Brady has very little leverage here, especially considering how few teams out there make sense in FA AND would pay him 25+ mil per to go to a WORSE situation than he’s in now.

    People can talk about the Chargers, Raiders, Bears, Miami, etc, whatever it is, but the truth is, Brady would find himself on a worse built team overnight and he knows it.

    Skipping OTAs I think has a deeper rooted problem for BB than we realize. It’s not so much the OTAs, it’s what it represents .It shows a QB who thinks he doesn’t need a season’ worth of develipment himself to be who he has been and what really made him.

    No days off is a figure of speech, but wow does it ring true now. As a diehard PAts fan of almost 40 years, season tickets in the family since ’78, I refuse to watch my QB essentially sabotage a season like that again as BB takes this ridiculous blame for yet again doing absolutely nothing wrong, save for not landing some legendary TE in the draft, a position that is hard to fill anyway, and one that isn’t even a landmark position in the league anyway. Very few teams have a stud TE. It’s bunk. It has very little to do with how he ran the offense, his willingness to distribute the ball and manage the game better.

    He’s had ego issues through the years striking a balance between managing a game and having it come easy with bad defenses or zone dedenses that he can easily shred.

    The last thing is, with all these BB proteges ending up all over the AFC (3 and counting), who are possible fairly regular postseason teams, all of these people know Brady’s tendencies and BAD habits, hence the recent losses and struggles to Houston, Miami and now Tenn.

    BB is a chameleon and he may want to flip the script with Stidham to HELP the team.

    Thank you.

  20. “Hope he signs with some other team and does well in 2020 while the Patriots tread .500. Then we’ll see how these Pats fans really do when they are put through ‘thick and thin’.”

    The two that are left will not be happy.

  21. Not a Patriots fan at all, but how can we not appreciate greatness and a living legend when we see it? This guy has proven to be a “team first” quarterback. He wanted championships, not stats or accolades. That’s who I would want quarterbacking my favorite team. Don’t bring up Deflategate or Spygate….that’s not his legacy. His legacy is being the best teammate and quarterback ever.

  22. Dublin Demons says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:12 am
    You know no one even remembers Drew ?? Bledsoe. College players weren’t even born when he left the Patriots. there are few pure roll models in pro sports, you did that too
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    One oculd say that Drew Bledsoe built Gillette. Gillette was already under construction when Moe Lewis took him out back in 2001 which opened the door for the rise of TB12. We pats fans are pretty fortunate. We’ve had a franchise QB since 1993.

  23. kevpft says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:35 am
    Feels like a wasted season, wasting the defense playing in such a high gear for most of it. How they could so completely fail to put together an offense is baffling. They’re in the final years of Brady, and they can’t put together a competent receiving, TE, or running plan over the course of a full offseason and regular season?

    After all that, 12-4 and a division win seems like an accomplishment.

    One good draft and one or two good FA signings could get this all back on track, easily.

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    Yeah and how do you think the D and STs feel? Keep in mind, the supposed inferior sides of the ball in 2007 and 2011 (the defenses) won both AFC title games that year with a crapy playing Brady, getting them to each SB. And then the Ds performed better in each SB, only to lose.

    This has happened before, where he’s lost sight of how to manage a game, both with McDaniels and O’Brien.

    Pumping out 14-17 points of offense is pathetic, and only a legendary defensive performance last year in the SB avoided another collapse from Brady.

    He’s the GOAT, no doubt, but if he has no fire, he’s not. Period.

  24. packsupersoldier says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:29 am
    The only thing he wants to prove is that he can do it without Belichick. That’s the only reason that makes sense.

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    I don’t buy this. His ego may want that, but deep down, he knows it; won’t happen. Regardless of where he goes, he goes to an inferior environment overnight. This is a fact, not an opinion.

  25. If it weren’t for the qb protection rules in place Tom would have retired a few years ago after suffering 10 times as many knock downs and hits as he currently has. His body probably feels pretty good. His ego is what is driving this.

  26. He’ll go somewhere where he can run the Offense like Peyton did in Denver and has an awesome D.
    Meanwhile, back in Foxboro…… Belichik loses Brady, all of his coaches, goes 1-15 and Drafts Trevor Lawrence and then proceeds to obliterate Shulas wins record.

  27. Just retire, Tom.

    Bill drafted No’Speed Harry in the first round to continue his horrid history of drafting skill players so that Tommy will have no one to throw the ball except for a 5’9″ bearded little person who drops the ball too often.

  28. I don’t get the Tom Brady haters. I am not a Patriots fan at all but I love watching Brady do what he has done for over a decade and a half.
    Brady is the greatest QB ever and he is one of the most competitive players ever, too.
    It has been amazing what he has achieved with many casts of characters.
    When Tom Brady retires, it will be a huge loss for the NFL.
    I hope he comes back next year better than ever because when he’s right, it’s like watching an artist at work.

  29. While you can’t dismiss the rings, I think he wants to prove his worth without Belichik. He has the rings, but he is still a warrior looking for a fight. It’s a stretch, but if he went to Cleveland with McDaniels, taking the Browns deep into the playoffs and losing could be just as fulfilling as winning another SB with NE. I’m also sure Belichik wants to show he can win without Brady, in the same competitive spirit. I’m sure in football, as in life, the journey is sometimes better than the destination.

  30. These next couple of months will be rife with speculation about Brady and possible destinations. Indianapolis, Tampa, L.A., Chicago. One thing is certain, though. Brady won’t be in New England. He’s gone. One four-letter word has convinced me … hope. Robert Kraft said of Brady, “I hope he stays here or retires.” This is the boss, the guy who approves the contracts and signs the checks using a pie-in-the-sky word that’s the opposite of “certain.” Then there’s Brady, saying nothing so far about staying in New England, just some mealy-mouthed muttering about “highly unlikely” that he will retire or “pretty unlikely.” Then there are the houses. Brady’s house is on the market. Also, tellingly, so is Alex Guerrero’s. Will someone please provide me with a plausible explanation of why these two domiciles are for sale if Brady is staying.

    Here’s what I think has happened. Belichick, known for his ruthlessness, has informed Kraft, probably some time ago, that he won’t take the enormous cap hit that a huge contract for Brady will mean. He wants Brady gone. Further, he warned Kraft not to order him to sign Brady, as he did a few years ago in the Garoppolo dust-up. This time, Kraft got an ultimatum from Belichick: Order me to sign Brady again and I’m gone. Brady or me. Choose.

    My thought is that Belichick believes Jarrett Stidham is ready to step in. Remember, we didn’t know that Garoppolo was any good until he started during Brady’s four-game Deflategate suspension. Our eyes widened. I think Stidham’s ready and I think Belichick kept Cody Kessler on the roster to ensure the team had a competent back-up for 2020. I think Brady goes to L.A., Gisele’s first choice, or to Indianapolis, Gisele’s 28th choice. But he won’t be in New England. Twenty years of unparalleled, never-to-be-duplicated magic is over. But the dynasty will live on. Belicick will see to that.

  31. Not a fan of the Patriots, but Brady has nothing left to prove to anyone, unless he’s trying prove he can win a Super Bowl when he’s eligible to collect Social Security. He should keep playing as long as he wants, but he’s nothing to prove to anyone.

  32. Tom’s legacy will always have an asterisk next to it marking his 4 game suspension for cheating (not including Bill Belichick directed the cheating by the Patriots organization which enhanced their record)

  33. Here is the fundamental problem. BB and Brady both have massive egos and they both want to prove they can win without the other. They have been the most successful HC/QB duo in the history of the league. Neither has anything left to prove. But, for the last few years they have been trying to outlast each other.
    BB is ready to move on. BB tried to move on when he drafted Jimmy G. Daddy Kraft wouldn’t allow it. So Jimmy G got traded.
    Tom would like to finish in NE without BB. But BB isn’t leaving. So neither is budging.
    I have no idea how it will pan out but I have my popcorn ready because it WILL be entertaining.

  34. Prove you’re innocent of all the cheating.
    Oh, you can’t?
    “You won’t” is more like it.

  35. Brady does have sometime to prove and he will do it – He will prove next year with another Team that he is still is a TOP NFL QB and 2019 was not a great year due to his age but a bad offense.

  36. joeychittwood says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:48 am
    He’ll go somewhere where he can run the Offense like Peyton did in Denver and has an awesome D.
    Meanwhile, back in Foxboro…… Belichik loses Brady, all of his coaches, goes 1-15 and Drafts Trevor Lawrence and then proceeds to obliterate Shulas wins record.
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    What if…and this is a BIG “IF”, Elway goes after Brady? Hear me out…I know the Broncos think they have their franchise QB in Drew Lock and maybe they do…but what if they bring Brady in for a year or two and let Lock learn the TB12 way? Elway has already set that precedent in getting Manning.
    Since that is the worst possible scenario for my Chiefs, I will guess that is exactly what will happen.

  37. livingbeyond40
    I’m not sure I understand why anyone thinks that Brady would go to Cleveland and just immediately supplant a young, promising QB. No way does that happen UNLESS Cleveland were to trade Mayfield.

    And why would they? To take a chance that a leaky offensive line could protect an immobile 40 year old?

    This kind of talk is simply ludicrous. Brady is too smart to go somewhere to “Prove something to Belichick.”

    I think Brady is smart enough that he knows if he wants to continue playing elsewhere he would be doomed to end up looking old and broken down if he goes anywhere that does NOT have a very good defense, some decent WRs and a very good offensive line. And an inadequate QB.

    Those are the ONLY teams I can foresee him considering. He’ll retire before he goes to a “rebuilding” team that can’t protect him.

  38. johnnycantread says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:58 am
    Prove you’re innocent of all the cheating.
    Oh, you can’t?
    “You won’t” is more like it.

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    Have the NFL release the PSI data they collected for the entire season. There is the proof.

  39. Brady has nothing to left to prove. He will only hurt his legacy.
    – He was gifted a SB last year, reminiscent of Manning against Carolina. He should have called it quits right there
    – Much of his play this year was cringe-worthy for such an NFL great
    – Brady ranked in the bottom half in almost all major stats for a QB
    – Don’t want another year of analysts, pundits and fans making excuses for Brady
    – Brady lost to the Dolphins, of all teams, with a pick 6 and followed it up with a repeat performance against Tennessee the following week at home again
    – Brady benefited from short fields all year and his team resorted to trick plays because of his ineffectiveness
    – BB does not want him back
    – Brady has limitations in throwing deep and 20 yard deep outs. How would he fit with another team?
    – Don’t be a Johnny U in powder blue, that was a sad sight to see

  40. Ron Jull says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:01 am
    Tom Brady, the GOAT :

    Garbage
    Offence
    Against
    Titans

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    What’s sad is, Tenn had the worst red zone D of any team in the NFL, and they were ranked like 21st in the league on D overall or soemthing.

    Brady was pathetic as was McDaniels. Note how fast McDaniels lost jobs in the last 2 games.

    If the fans can see it, these other teams can see it. There was no reason for not QB sneaking at the 1, but Brady was playing scared and stupidly called a TO. 3 years ago, he sneaks it in.

    BB sees this stuff. Oh yes he does.

  41. Patriots lost our center.
    Gronk waited too long to retire and all tight ends where gone
    ANTONIO brown couldn’t pay off a girl.

    It all caught up to offense. I really didn’t see Brady make that many bad throws this year.

    If Brady leaves and has success. Beliechick will be crucified.

    If Brady leaves and patriots have success Brady’s entire career will come into question.

    There is no upside for either leaving each other.

    If they had burkhead and white in at the same time for most of the game they would have won.

  42. If he goes somewhere else…where they wont have cupcake schedule…Refereees tripping over themselves to protect him as well as throw PI calls on 3rd downs to extend drives…boy will he look horrible.

  43. The funniest thing ever will be to see the Pats get a FA WR, draft a TE and OL and all of a sudden that offense has skill players again for Brady. All these little whinners will be posting their crying and complaining about everything under the sun, and the Pats will once again be in the hunt. You are blind and ignorant if you think any other QB could have played better with the weak level of WRs and TE’s that was on this team.

  44. Lets look who he was throwing to this season… Edelman with one arm and one knee, Sanu (who disappeared after the Ravens game), a rookie in Harry for part of the season, Dorsett, old man Ben Watson for 12 games, Matt LaCosse and Ryan Izzo. Those receivers behind that o-line… Brady played unbelievable well considering what he had.

  45. mrgdawg says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:04 am
    Its time for Captain Checkdown to retire.

    You do understand of a QB “checks down” it means he went through his reads and nothing was open. So that means the QB made the correct decision.

  46. jjackwagon says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:57 am
    Here is the fundamental problem. BB and Brady both have massive egos and they both want to prove they can win without the other. They have been the most successful HC/QB duo in the history of the league. Neither has anything left to prove. But, for the last few years they have been trying to outlast each other.
    BB is ready to move on. BB tried to move on when he drafted Jimmy G. Daddy Kraft wouldn’t allow it. So Jimmy G got traded.
    Tom would like to finish in NE without BB. But BB isn’t leaving. So neither is budging.
    I have no idea how it will pan out but I have my popcorn ready because it WILL be entertaining.

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    Guess who the GM is and cares about not skipping OTAs and has more responsibility than Brady with the lesser ego?

    He was the only QB in the NFL to skip OTAs the last 2 years.

    Don’t think for a second Brady putting himself above the team didn’t annoy BB.

  47. Hey, it’s his choice — let him make it. Besides, it would be interesting as hell to see how he plays with another team and how Belichick does without him.

  48. LOL. His detractors have no idea how little he had to work with this season compared to every other season with the possible exceptions of 2015 and 2006.

    That being said, there is still another question that needs to be asked before I pronounce that Brady will return to form in 2020 … did Belichick engineer this to push him out?

  49. As a Pats fan, I am confident NE will play the best QB they can get for the money – their business model and salary cap considered. If it’s Brady, then it’s Brady. If not, then I’ll be rooting for whomever is out there. Belichick’s been coaching for 45 years, been to 11 Super Bowls, has a record of 304–137 (.689). I’m sure he knows what he’s doing.

  50. jagsfan1 says:
    January 8, 2020 at 11:17 am
    If he goes somewhere else…where they wont have cupcake schedule

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    Can’t believe this phony narrative is still going. The AFC East has a bad reputation but in W-L reality has been average at worst. And the Pats play a first-place schedule each year, which is a harder schedule. And they have just as good a record against non-division and non-conference opponents. They pretty much beat everyone, whether they’re playing good teams or bad.

    They’re a well-run team in a league full of talented but poorly-run teams. That’s what’s made the difference for other teams that have had success of late (Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, Seahawks, Saints).

  51. Regarding homes on the market, TB’s trainer house is indeed on the market, but he already purchased a new home 15 minutes away in Plymouth. So that is not an issue for his employ as TB’s trainer in Foxboro. For Tom, he bought a house in CT. And I’m sure he can afford a nice condo near Foxboro to commute to practices. So for posters, and for NFL commentators like Sheffler, you should not infer what the fact that “homes on the market” will result in.

  52. steelcurtainn says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:33 am
    We’ll continue to watch the ship sink.

    *****************************

    And we’ll continue to see if the US Navy can somehow pull your ship up from the bottom of the ocean where it’s been peacefully resting for quite some time now.

  53. The toughest thing for any athlete who’s been on top – or really any athlete, period – to prove is that they know when it’s time to walk away. The mind always wants to say yes but has to realize the body is no longer up to the task.

  54. GoodellMustGo says:

    Belichick will never allow that

    ________

    Why not?
    He’s used every other trick in the book.

    Why, according to some fans on here, Beli-sneak has deliberately lost games during the regular season, so he wouldn’t tip his hand in the playoffs.

    If he can resort to that, why not resort to tanking?
    He’s not worried about Kraft firing him, that’s for sure, so nothing would stop him.

  55. The L.A. Chargers better empty the Brinks truck for Tom Brady. They are opening up a brand new state of the art stadium, Rivers money is coming off the books, and most importantly they have a pretty solid team for Brady to transition into. It a win win win situation. What’s not to like?

  56. Brady ranked in the bottom half in almost all major stats for a QB

    Wrong
    1st in attempts
    7th in passing yards
    13 in TDs
    Top 10 in TD to int ratio
    And the Offense finished in the top 10

    Don’t give me QB rating that’s an overrated stat
    Completion percentage was 60 but plenty of factors effect that.

    What other “major stats “ for QB do you have

    – Brady has limitations in throwing deep and 20 yard deep outs. How would he fit with another team?

    This is also a product of who you have to throw to
    He has when he has a Real deep threat wr he produces
    2 years ago with Brandon Cooks he was second in the NFL in completion 20 or more yards

    – Brady lost to the Dolphins, of all teams, with a pick 6 and followed it up with a repeat performance against Tennessee the following week at home again

    Brady threw the go ahead TD pass with 3 minutes left in the game
    The D lost that game because they could make one stop on the 75 yard final drive

    – Brady benefited from short fields all year and his team resorted to trick plays because of his ineffectiveness

    Or was it because of the “ineffectiveness “ of the Offense as a whole
    And not just Brady ?

    Don’t want another year of analysts, pundits and fans making excuses for BradY

    When Ryan Clark of all people says “Brady can still play he just has no weapons other than JE” that’s not an “excuse” it’s fact.

    Again these former PLAYERS and COACHES who have been saying the same thing. Probably know what they are talking about.

  57. ariani1985 says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:25 am
    Prove a 10 yard pass?
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    Facts are funny things. Fact. Not one QB averaged over 10 yards per pass attempt. The closest was Tannehill at 9.6 in 12 games played. Winston led the league in pass yardage. Are you saying you’d take Tannehill or Winston over Brady? So glad you don’t run my favorite team.

  58. I think he will probably be back. Probably not with the Patriots though. I do think the market for him may be smaller than he thinks though. He likely won’t want to go to the poor teams that could really use him. And they likely wouldn’t have the O line to protect him. Most of the good teams already have a solid QB and they probably wouldn’t want to upend their salary cap for him. The only other possibility is for him to go to a team that has potential and needs a QB. Unless of course Josh McDaniels takes a Head Coach job somewhere and he follows him. It was McDaniels offense that made him more than BB. Otherwise I think he ends up back in NE at a discount, where I don’t see him winning another championship.

  59. Milwaukee’s Biggest Vikings Fan says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:01 am
    Hang em up, Tom.

    – Every non Patriots fan
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    Nope, I’d like to see him play a year or 2 elsewhere to truly see if it’s Belichick or Brady.

  60. If you took the number off the jersey, everyone would stay, “gee, that guy sucks”.

    Nice try Flash1211, but you listed compiling type stats. 1st in attempts, but 13th in TDs? Sorry, don’t cut it.

    Here ya go:

    Brady finished the season averaging 6.6 yards per attempt (his lowest average since 2002). He ranked 16th, 17th, and 16th in DYAR, DVOA, and total QBR, respectively. And he posted the league’s eight-lowest completion percentage above expectation, ranking between Eli Manning and Baker Mayfield.

    By all means, Brady, come back. I would love have another repeat year of pick 6’s, missing receivers, deep balls to unknown areas, seeing ghosts and excuses.

    Analysts and the like are afraid to said bad things about Brady because of his illustrious history. But not me, he was once great, but he sucks now.

  61. savethebs says:
    January 8, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    Nope, I’d like to see him play a year or 2 elsewhere to truly see if it’s Belichick or Brady.

    ======================

    Did Montana playing for the Chiefs prove it wasn’t him? How about Manning wheezing along with a defense-carried Broncos?

    A QB playing in the twilight of his career is a QB in the twilight of his career – it’s never going to be his best work, or “prove” anything.

  62. thetooloftools says:

    January 8, 2020 at 11:51 am

    The L.A. Chargers better empty the Brinks truck for Tom Brady. They are opening up a brand new state of the art stadium, Rivers money is coming off the books, and most importantly they have a pretty solid team for Brady to transition into. It a win win win situation. What’s not to like?

    Yep, they will have an offense that can light up a score board, and a defense who can’t stop a nosebleed. The result won’t be much different than what the chargers are doing now which is losing.

  63. savethebs says:
    January 8, 2020 at 12:19 pm
    Milwaukee’s Biggest Vikings Fan says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:01 am
    Hang em up, Tom.

    – Every non Patriots fan
    ——–
    Nope, I’d like to see him play a year or 2 elsewhere to truly see if it’s Belichick or Brady.

    —-
    That won’t prove anything. Brady will be 43.

  64. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 8, 2020 at 12:37 pm
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    savethebs says:
    January 8, 2020 at 12:19 pm
    Milwaukee’s Biggest Vikings Fan says:
    January 8, 2020 at 10:01 am
    Hang em up, Tom.

    – Every non Patriots fan
    ——–
    Nope, I’d like to see him play a year or 2 elsewhere to truly see if it’s Belichick or Brady.

    —-
    That won’t prove anything. Brady will be 43.

    —-
    Although maybe this is what Tom had in mind when he said he had more to prove.

    Coming back for his ego – if that indeed is the case- instead of a genuine passion for the game… probably won’t end too well.

  65. try to prove all you want but when you have zero support and no one to throw to its impossibly. you cant throw to edelman every snap.

  66. Brady finished the season averaging 6.6 yards per attempt (his lowest average since 2002). He ranked 16th, 17th, and 16th in DYAR, DVOA, and total QBR, respectively. And he posted the league’s eight-lowest completion percentage above expectation, ranking between Eli Manning and Baker Mayfield.


    That’s great but
    When you ignore who he has or doesn’t have to throw to you expose yourself

    Again Rex Ryan is not AFRAID to say anything…
    Ryan Clark has no reason to defend him
    I can go on and on

  67. It’s late in 2020, you’re an NFL owner or head coach and your team’s franchise QB is injured and out for the year. You are leading your division, maybe have a real shot for a bye. Brady didn’t sign with anyone but he’s in great shape. Do you go with your backup or try to sign Brady?

    That’s a no-brainer.

    Tom doesn’t have to let his 43 year old body take a beating all training camp and season. He’s healthy. You let him call his own plays because it gives him a better feel for the game. You run some hurry up so the defense can’t sub in specialists and so he can take advantage of the weakest link.

    With all of these young QBs running like crazy I can see one getting hurt.

  68. I know I still have a lot to prove. But, by golly folks, my phone seems to have smashed itself to pieces so I won’t be able to prove a darn thing. Let’s just put an asterisk by it and call it good. Okay? Please?

  69. i3urton31 says:
    January 8, 2020 at 12:42 pm
    try to prove all you want but when you have zero support and no one to throw to its impossibly. you cant throw to edelman every snap.

    1 1 Thank You

    ———————–

    EXACTLY

    Yet, he wanted to. This isn’t 2002, 2006, 2013 or even 2015.

    Brady went to a title game with Edelman on one foot and just Gronk in 2015 with Steven Jackson as the lead RB. Read that again if you need to.

    Unacceptable. The WR group had experience with Edelman, Sanu and Dorsett. Couple that with the great JAmes White (mysteriously under-used), the good Burkhead as pass receivers out of the RB, a 1st rd pick who mysteriously was the ONLY rookie WR in the top 2 rds not to show progression during the season, and a good looking UDFA WR in Meyers,

    Brady made the rookies feel like crap, they were almost afraid to breathe or make a mistake. Not new. BB knows it and he’s had it.

  70. Yeah, Rex Ryan, Ryan Clark and the like all picked Brady to beat Tennessee. How’d that work out? He couldn’t score more then 13 against that defense?
    Watch Lamar this weekend, show you how it’s done!

  71. Guess he’s determined not to go out on top.

    That said, the horrid AFC East (the real MVP of the Pats dynasty) is still, well … horrid. So I bet with the right FAs they can prob make at least one more run. Even with Tom’s noodle arm.

  72. nite2al says:
    January 8, 2020 at 1:07 pm
    Yeah, Rex Ryan, Ryan Clark and the like all picked Brady to beat Tennessee. How’d that work out? He couldn’t score more then 13 against that defense?
    Watch Lamar this weekend, show you how it’s done!


    Oh you’re a Ravens fan , that explains a lot.

    Cool I hope the Ravens win too so they can beat KC

  73. Of course he’s not going anywhere. And of course the Pats are going to re-sign him. Did anyone really believe otherwise? Brady’s arm will have to fall off before either side calls it quits, and even then they’ll telegraph it in order to have a long, drawn-out farewell for him.

  74. I am a Ravens fan, but I call it as I see it and I would love to beat KC, but I do fear them. They have our number, so far.
    Go, Texans!

  75. A new band call the ‘true pretenders’
    Tom Brady
    Barry Bonds
    Lance Armstrong
    Roger Clemens
    And the new lead singer…give it up for Marion Jones!!
    WooooHoooooo

  76. Retire already. Only in your mind do you think you can give more. Your body told you all year, your done. Arm is shot brain is too. Give it up. Dont be like a lot of former greats who stayed beyond their abilities and made fools of themselves. Signed a fan

  77. Tom and Bill are going to sit down and come up with a game-plan to improve the offense. Brady had ONE legit receiver for the bulk of the season, and a decimated offensive line. The Patriots do not have a better option at QB. They’ll get Tom to stay and they will compete for another ship next year. If AB would’ve behaved himself, I have a feeling the conversations going on right now would be vastly different.

  78. “Imagine if they kept Jimmy G and traded Brady for picks, they’d be set up for the next decade + , I thought Belichick was a mastermind”

    What Brady has done since Jimmy G left is more than Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have achieved in their entire careers. 2 superbowls and one ring. Laughable to me how quick people are to assign upcoming QB’s with multiple superbowls in their future.

  79. Proving you can still tie your own shoes and eat by yourself after 60 is more important than playing past 45.

  80. It will be interesting to see what he can do playing for an organization that doesn’t cheat. I wouldn’t wager much on even playing field working out especially well for Brady.

  81. 42 years old. Still hungry. Still trying to prove something. That’s my team’s quarterback and you fans in the other 31 cities can go pound sand.

  82. I don’t see him playing anywhere else. Who are the Patriots going to replace him with? As a long time Raider fan it surprises many that I actually admire Brady. It wasn’t his fault that the refs unfurled the “tuck rule” against us. It wasn’t Brady that called for three running plays in the snow when we have two legendary receivers on the team that could have caught a short pass for a first down to run out the clock to win the game in regulation. For one, right or wrong, I see him returning to New England.

  83. This new “the effort is the prize” attitude doesn’t resonate like Brady’s constant explanation that his favorite Super Bowl ring is the next one.

    ———————–

    It resonates perfectly to me. The way to get the next one is to forget the past, good or bad, and then focus on and appreciate today. I think after being out for the season in 2008 he really adopted this mentality. This is why it was possible to win the Super Bowl last year, despite losing it the year before. A feat that had not been done since 1972. 47 years ago. Most teams crumble after losing the Super Bowl like the Rams did this year.

  84. Tom is going to go the Johnny Unitis route,two lackluster seasons with the chargers before he realizes what we all realize,its over.

  85. once again the double talk continues. calling him the goat and how much HE makes everyone better, then saying he looked bad this year because he had a bad line and no one to throw to. it cant be both ways, face it, he is/was a system qb that had a good career. it is over, the non mobility, the decreased arm strength and the lose of accuracy, however slight, has seen to that.

  86. tedmurph says:
    January 8, 2020 at 1:50 pm
    Brady would take the Bears to the Super Bowl.

    8 3 Rate Down

    —————1

    lmao

    who is their rb? who is their best wr? can you name these names? I can’t.

    how is their cap position?

    OL? Long just retired

    Be very careful with your analysis because Brady needs to be

  87. MDWBRONCO says:
    January 8, 2020 at 1:12 pm
    One thing you have to prove is how your still playing at that age.
    HGH much?

    11 11 Rate This

    ————————————

    umm, a broncos fan talking about hgh with goodell covering for manning?

    Wow

  88. Brady has one thing left to prove; he needs to prove he is better than the likes of Michael Jordan or joe montana, and know when to walk away.

  89. Sorry, I don’t respond to people that I have no respect for, and don’t know 1/10th of what they think they know about FB. Better things to do.

  90. .
    there is only so many ways to cheat to beat bad opponents and bad coaches…

    Joe Montana won without cheating and beat good coaches and good teams…

  91. Joe Montana won without cheating and beat good coaches and good teams…
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Is this one of those if I keep saying it, hopefully it comes true? Montana certainly cheated as well as his team members. Silicone spray on jerseys, headset malfunctions, Jerry Rice stickum. Montana was quoted as saying “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”

  92. 7th ring. The Patriots is in a bad shape now due to coaches leaving. How many are left? Go to another team with good coaches and players. It’s o.k. For once you should experience playing with elite receivers and just have fun.

  93. Tommy: you can never prove you are not a cheater, because you are. Because you are a cheater, you can never prove to be better than Montana ,the goat and not a cheat. The other problem is you are, in NFL years ,a very old man . It will be very hard to get the younger players to put up with your “me me ” attitude and it is a generation gap problem. It’s over,let it go and retire in good health .

  94. I still lol at anyone who that’s Brady is a system QB and means it. It’s like they haven’t watched football since 2002. 😀 Brady has played in many offensive systems and done well in all of them.

    Playing for one coach in your career isn’t a system QB. Brady IS the system. He made the system go not the other way around’

    Real system QBs don’t last in this league and they never have and never win Super Bowls and MVPs. There’s a good reason for that.

  95. Brady needs to prove he can win honestly. So far, nothing but asterisks. Case closed.

  96. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    January 9, 2020 at 9:37 am
    Brady needs to prove he can win honestly. So far, nothing but asterisks. Case closed.

    —-
    R*vens appear to have cheated through Bluetooth Guy.

    I don’t take anything they did this season seriously. The end. 🙂

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