Kyle Shanahan to 49ers: Don’t be “stupid” and underestimate Packers

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Packers head coach Matt LaFleur is taking some time to look back at his team’s 37-8 regular season loss to the 49ers in order to “ensure it doesn’t happen,” but 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan is taking a different approach to connecting that game to this weekend’s title tilt.

Shanahan said on Monday that he believes that game has “zero relevance” and noted that the Packers have reeled off six straight wins since that November game. As a result, his message to the team when it comes to remembering that game was a simple one.

“Don’t be that stupid,” Shanahan said, via ESPN.com. “That’s not real. This is about Sunday’s game . . . There’s so many stories like that. And this is the NFL, so no team, the game before never matters like that. There are four teams left and that’s four very, very good teams and it’s going to be a hard game for all of us. Also, our players — the type of guys they’ve been all year — I’m not concerned about that. They’ll have to answer that question, I’m sure, a lot. But I don’t think that will be a worry for our players, which means it won’t be for me.”

This will be the 37th playoff rematch between teams that had a 25-point margin of victory in a regular season meeting. The team that won in the regular season is 22-14 in those meetings, which works to support Shanahan’s belief that what happened in November has no direct bearing on what will happen this weekend.

89 responses to “Kyle Shanahan to 49ers: Don’t be “stupid” and underestimate Packers

  1. This will be a different game than last time. Two steps forward, one step back, all season long. Only this time, no going back.

  2. How has guaranteeing the Packers will lose every game they play gone for you so far this season?

    Keep up the good work little guy👌 Your personal bad karma towards yourself has made the Packers thrive!

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  3. 49ers will not overlook the Packers. Bottom line is that the 49ers are better up front on both sides of the Ball than the Packers. Good game but 49ers will get the W.

  4. Don’t worry about something as trivial as an NFC Championship game 49ers. Just look ahead and occupy your minds with thoughts of playing in the Superbowl. I mean, you don’t really have to worry about playing another team that advanced to the conference championship game, do you?

  5. “Bottom line is that the 49ers are better up front on both sides of the Ball than the Packers. Good game but 49ers will get the W.”

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    9’ers start winning again and this is the only type of 9’er fan you see every where? Come on 9’ers fans show yourselves – I’d like to see some of the class-act fans versus “these little fellas”.

  6. Green Bay was not prepared for the fierce Gold Rush, and Mr. Rodgers did not have much time to throw the ball. He will probably learn from mobile quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray and even Drew Brees that he needs to sprint away from the pass rushers and make short, quick throws. In fact, near the end of the regular season game, Rodgers did adjust and they did score a late TD.

  7. I’ve said it since week one – the NFL would love the story line of Packers vs Chiefs in the Super Bowl for the 100th season (Super Bowl 1 match-up). They’ve done a pretty good job so far facilitating that, so there’s no real reason to assume that Packers will lose this weekend. I’ve got my money on GB to cover.

  8. Yeah they need another blow out.

    If it is close the Packers will get all the calls.

    Hell it would not be a stretch to say the calls will keep it close.

  9. Having Bulaga for this game will be a huge change from the November 24th game when he got hurt early on and was out.

    David Bakhtiari: “I’m excited. Especially against the 49ers, to get another crack at them. I’m pumped, I’m pumped.”

    Bakh had that look in his eyes when he said this. Game face on early this week.👍

    Let’s do this!

    #GoPackGo!🏈

  10. I do love how the `9er faithful are predicting a second blowout.
    Never mind the fact that their team that just weeks after beating the Packers, laid an egg to 5-9 the Falcons.
    Also never mind the fact that the Packers just beat the same team (Seahawks) who beat them once and if not for a boneheaded delay of game penalty, would’ve beaten them a second time.
    That’s alright, just keep sleeping on the Packers and watch them win ugly all the way to the Superbowl.

  11. freefromwhatyouare says: “Having Bulaga for this game will be a huge change from the November 24th game when he got hurt early on and was out”

    Yeah, and the Niners will also have a huge change, since they will have have Dee Ford, Joe Staley, Robbie Gould, Kwon Alexander and Matt Breida (none of whom played in prior GB matchup).

    This should be a classic NFC Championship Game!!!

  12. “Bottom line is that the 49ers are better up front on both sides of the Ball than the Packers. Good game but 49ers will get the W.”

    I’m sure the Ravens thought they would “get the W” last weekend too. There’s a reason the games are actually played

  13. The Niners blew out the Packers, despite several key players not playing or were banged up and didn’t play their game. No Dee Ford(pash rush is stronger this game), RT was out, no Alexander either. Kittle was banged up bad, Joe Staley just returned (Was rusty still)and Sanders was out too!
    News to you GB fans…you guys will be playing a healthier & much better 49ers team!
    38-10 Niners!

  14. I do love how the `9er faithful are predicting a second blowout.
    Never mind the fact that their team that just weeks after beating the Packers, laid an egg to 5-9 the Falcons.
    Also never mind the fact that the Packers just beat the same team (Seahawks) who beat them once and if not for a boneheaded delay of game penalty, would’ve beaten them a second time.
    That’s alright, just keep sleeping on the Packers and watch them win ugly all the way to the Superbowl

    You failed to recognize why they stumbled towards the end. Defense was the primary issue. But Tart, Ford & Alexander all came back last week and our D returned to Elite form.
    You guys should be terrified. 7 of our starters were out for the 1st game and look what happened.
    Niners have a much better O-Line & D-Line. Not to mention, our coaching is far superior!
    Score might be a little closer this time but not by much!

  15. It’s going to come down to how well the Packers’ offensive line holds up against the Niners’ d-line and rush. If the Packers can fine at least a partial solution to that, they’ll at least stand a chance to get the W. No guarantees, but that’s where it matters most.

  16. Not a 49er fan but this is a gritty gutsy team that has the feel of one those three superbowl appearances in four or five year spans, much like those 93to 96 cowboys, of course free agency started right about the time the cowboys were in the midst of that dynasty ,and guys like Norton, and kelvin Martin,and many others started to leave ,or I believe that team would have won a few more,The Niners will have to stay hungry and keep a solid Corp in house ,if they want to maximize their possible dynasty window..but this year,I think they take it all.

  17. freefromwhatyouare says:
    January 14, 2020 at 11:22 am
    Having Bulaga for this game will be a huge change from the November 24th game when he got hurt early on and was out.\
    _________________

    Alex Light was the RT for most of that game. Bulaga will play after his bout with the flu and Jason Veldheer will be his backup and he has filled in admirably

  18. Pack would’ve been better served losing a close game to Seattle with dignity, than getting embarrassed in the NFC Championship game by 3 scores or more. This will be Packers last playoff game in a very long time, so enjoy….

  19. He’s only saying that to check the smart coach box. Everyone knows Packers are not in the same league as SF. Only way SF loses to cheese heads is if they beat themselves

  20. January 14, 2020 at 11:16 am
    9ers win big but whoever wins will get destroyed in Superbowl though.

    I don’t think the Titans will destroy either NFC team. But Henry will rush for 200.

  21. All he has to do is talk to his dad about past experiences. When his dad’s Broncos were smashed by the Packers in Lambeau like week 12 then met the same Packers in the Super Bowl later the same year and beat them led by Elway and Terrell Davis. Despite being double digit underdogs in the Super Bowl.

  22. Shanahan is just being a smart coach, telling his players to not underestimate the opponent. This is not a regular season game, when any team can have a bad day and bounce beck the next week. This is a playoff game, for the conference title no less, when it’s win or go home.

    The much ballyhooed Cowboys didn’t show up for the division title game. And it cost the red headed stepchild his job. The Eagles didn’t show up in in the wild card, and now all they can do is watch football on TV. Same for the vaunted Vikings and Ravens. These are the games that matter.

    Look around the league. The Patriots, the Saints, the Seahawks, all favored, aren’t playing. It’s come down to the Packers vs. the 49ers, and the Titans vs. the Chiefs.

    Now is not the time to underestimate your opponent. If I were a betting man, and I’m not but if I were, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Green Bay and Tennessee in the Super Bowl.

  23. Packers had a unexpectedly good season, but they are in over their head here. The “winning ugly” luck will wear out and the cream will rise to the top.

    49ers: 31 / Packers: 17

  24. This should be a good game – I still think 9ers are better team on both sides of ball. I don’t think any real fans think this is going to be a blow out. It could be, but I highly doubt it. I actually think that if the 9ers win this, they win the superbowl. If the Packers win, I think KC probably wins ( I believe they will beat Titans) Just my two cents.

  25. Hope the Packers can pull it out but I fear this is not a good matchup for them. The 49ers built their team the old fashioned way – they had 5 years in a row coming in 3rd or last in their division with high draft picks and they picked very well. The whole defensive front are first rounders and they play like it. Packers only chance is that they get their run game going, Rodgers plays like Rodgers, and the pass rush gets to Garoppolo who tends to panic under pressure.

  26. Packers had a unexpectedly good season, but they are in over their head here. The “winning ugly” luck will wear out and the cream will rise to the top.

    The 49ers did have the advantage of very high draft picks for many years. I guess the cream took a while.

  27. blowncallssuck says:
    January 14, 2020 at 11:16 am
    Yeah they need another blow out.

    If it is close the Packers will get all the calls.

    Hell it would not be a stretch to say the calls will keep it close.
    _________

    Good! Hopefully you’re right.
    Maybe this week, when the Packers force and recover another fumble, the refs will actually give us the ball.

  28. Packers are always in it with Rodgers at the helm, but the San Fran D, the strong running game with Mostert, Coleman, and Breida, including the talent at WR an TE will prove too much for the Packers.

    A very nice first season for LaFleur, but the season ends for GB in SF this weekend.

  29. There have been 23 times in the Super Bowl era (excluding one replacement player game in 1987,) that a team lost a regular-season game by at least 28 points to a team it met again in the playoffs.

    In nine of those cases, the team that got blown out earlier in the season came back to win in the playoffs, and in six other games the team lost by a touchdown or less.

  30. I was incredibly impressed with all 3 levels of the 49ers’ D on Saturday, as well as with the offensive line and special teams, not so much with Jimmy G. Obviously, Rodgers can handle the 49ers defensive front better than Cousins, and if the Pack D can force the 49ers to throw and make the QB beat them, they can make the game close. I doubt they will win, but hoping for a close entertaining game.

  31. Instead of beating the Packers by 4 touchdowns it will only be by 3 touchdowns this time. Shutdown Adams and game is over. Rodgers does not throw to anyone else.

  32. Clearly GB cannot stop the 49er pass rush and their only hope is that Rodgers has open receivers immediately after hiking the ball. 49ers will run by committee and Kittle and Co. will be too much to handle. I see this game being 28-17 49ers to be generous to GB. Tennessee has a better chance in beating KC than GB has at beating SF.

  33. They have enough talent to control Garropollo and are decent against the run, it all comes down to their offensive line giving Rodgers time.

  34. Alan Light says:
    January 14, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    ……. This will be Packers last playoff game in a very long time, so enjoy….

    And you know this how?

  35. Don’t need to shut down Adams when you shut down Rodgers. The D Line, aka Hells Angels, aka The Great Wall, aka The Hoover Damn, aka Niagra Falls, aka Old Faithful, aka The Devil’s Towers, is coming for Rodgers.

  36. Both these teams have the Oline and running games to let them run ball control offences. the team who runs the ball better will win. GB23-SF21

  37. I hope the Niners — and everyone else — give the Packers no chance to win this game. There is nothing more pleasing than to pull off a huge upset when no one else thinks you can do it.
    Ask the Titans.

  38. bigdaddyrockytop says:
    January 14, 2020 at 1:04 pm
    Packers had a unexpectedly good season, but they are in over their head here. The “winning ugly” luck will wear out and the cream will rise to the top.

    The 49ers did have the advantage of very high draft picks for many years. I guess the cream took a while.

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    Yeah, and their talent acquisition overall has been excellent. Kittle, Breida, Greenlaw, Moseley, Mostert, Coleman, Garland, Brunskill were all late round picks or undrafted guys.

    Trades for Jimmy G, Sanders and Dee Ford have proved to be home runs.

    so ya, they hit on top end draft picks and they also have found gems all over the place. thats a great front office.

  39. I was incredibly impressed with all 3 levels of the 49ers’ D on Saturday, as well as with the offensive line and special teams, not so much with Jimmy G. Obviously, Rodgers can handle the 49ers defensive front better than Cousins, and if the Pack D can force the 49ers to throw and make the QB beat them, they can make the game close. I doubt they will win, but hoping for a close entertaining game

    I expect GB to make Jimmy G to beat them again. I don’t get why everyone down-plays his contributions and for winning games.
    They say look all the 13 pics. Well, 1/2 of those were from dropped passes.
    I he did make some bone-head throws in the beginning of the year. 1 in the Seattle game too(no Kittle).
    It also appears, all the Pack fans tend to forget. It was Kittle 1st game back and he was far being healthy(still carved them up), Staley was still injured, Mike McG was out and I think Juice was too. Sanders was hurt in the 1st Qtr.
    Despite that, Jimmy G tore up their a** up. The Pack biggest weakness on defense is defending the middle of the field. Niners have the best TE & FB who will take advantage again.

    Rogers is 1 of the greatest of all-time but right now…Jimmy G is the better QB(and was this season)!
    If Rogers was a Mobile QB..they might have a chance(small) but this appears to be another blow-out, unless the refs take control.

  40. Regardless of how this one plays out… the clock is ticking for the 49er’s. Two year window until all those 1st rounders want to get paid. They will be a dumpster fire by 2022…

  41. Two very different teams will line up this weekend. I think both are much better in all facets of the game. This feels like a three phase game and turnover kinda game. The team that plays excellent in all three phases will win, period. This is also not the Niners of the past. We’ve fielded some excellent defenses against the Packers in the past and got shredded. However, the one thing I can say is that this team is young where it counts, alot of guys in their primes. They’ll have to play perfectly to beat Rodgers. Don’t underestimate the Packers defense either. They are the best I’ve seen since the Leroy Butler days.

  42. Niner fan here:

    I’m betting the Pack +7.5, expecting the game to look like a blowout early, but the Pack will try to claw back and lose by less than a TD. Maybe even a point.

  43. The 49ers will blow the Pack out of the water a 2nd time. The reason being is that Shanahan knows everything that Lefleur will run. At the time I had made that prediction, I didn’t even know that the 49ers had curb stomped the pack earlier in the season. It’s a bit of an unfair advantage like Gruden had over his Raiders team in their superbowl. Sorry pack fans, had it been any other team, you’d have had a chance. San Fran by 20.

  44. He should have said, “Don’t be stupid, and underestimate the refs!” Guaranteed they will play a part in this game and there will be controversy. The Pack are going to the Superbowl, no if ands or buts!

  45. This is exactly why I thought losing to Atlanta could benefit us. It should have eliminated any sort of possible overconfidence going forward. Not to mention, if Rodgers is playing his A-game, he can beat anyone at any time. Green bay is a good team, we better not overlook them or else we will lose. We may lose even if we don’t. Unexpected things happen. This is the NFL, any given Sunday!

  46. Here is a stat that all Packers fans can hang their hats on. Since 2012 Rodgers has been 5 and 25 on the road against winning teams. I really like our odds Packet Fans. Especially when the 49ers O line and D line are the best in football.

  47. We shall see. I am a Packers fan and I believe the Niners are a better team at this point. The Packers would have to play a nearly perfect game and get a few turnovers. I also have great respect for Niners fans.

    You have every right to be confident, and I could cheer for the Niners in the Super Bowl if they do, in fact, beat the Packers.

    Here’s hoping the winner comes out healthy, and that Vikings fans learn a little class at some point. I mean, those are things we can all agree on, right?

  48. codylaws says:
    January 14, 2020 at 11:16 am
    9ers win big but whoever wins will get destroyed in Superbowl though.
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    Reminds me of what the Ravens were saying mid season. They couldnt even get pass the Divisional round. lol

  49. 49’er fans that are talking about the refs baling the pack out seem to forget that the last time they played, the game was won on the first or second play, that is when they took away the reception yard of adams on a ticky tack personal foul. a verbal warning is usually given first for something like that. so dream your dreams and line up your excuses. I am hoping for a hard fought game like these use to be.

  50. Look out for Lamar he’s the best quarterback to ever…Oh sorry he went 1 and done again this year my bad…Look out for Russell Wilson he’s the best quarterback that’s ever…Oh sorry he went to Green Bay and lost again that’s right my bad….Watch out for Patrick Mahomes he’s the guy who lost last year at home with a chance to go to the Superbow…Yea that’s what I meant to say #ChiefsChokeAtHome

  51. “All of America will be Packers fans this week”

    =======

    It is that way every week of the year. The Packers are the real ‘Americas Team’

    #OneTeamOneNation

    #PackersNation!🧀🇺🇸☝

  52. leatherface2012 says:
    January 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    AFTER THE LOSS, PACKER FANS WILL BLAME REFS…I GUARANTEE IT

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxzzzzzzzzzzxzz

    ……..and if they win, you’ll be blaming the ref’s.

  53. stellarperformance says:
    January 14, 2020 at 8:06 am
    This will be a different game than last time. Two steps forward, one step back, all season long. Only this time, no going back.
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    One step back is a loss against the San Fran 49ers of Santa Clara. We can only hope for the status quo. Green and Gold baby!

  54. leatherface2012 says:
    January 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    AFTER THE LOSS, PACKER FANS WILL BLAME REFS…I GUARANTEE IT
    ____________

    Great, we’ve been listening to Barney guarantees, week in and week out, since the better part of last summer.
    I’ll just add this one to the long list of other failed predictions.
    It’s become ordinary.

    Oh, and it seems you’ve left your Caps Lock on again.

  55. stellarperformance says:
    January 14, 2020 at 6:34 pm
    leatherface2012 says:
    January 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    AFTER THE LOSS, PACKER FANS WILL BLAME REFS…I GUARANTEE IT

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxzzzzzzzzzzxzz

    ……..and if they win, you’ll be blaming the ref’s.
    —————————
    Green and gold can’t lose to San Francisco when they are playing Santa Clara!

  56. Wafflestomp says:
    January 14, 2020 at 7:00 pm
    leatherface2012 says:
    January 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    AFTER THE LOSS, PACKER FANS WILL BLAME REFS…I GUARANTEE IT
    ____________

    Great, we’ve been listening to Barney guarantees, week in and week out, since the better part of last summer.
    I’ll just add this one to the long list of other failed predictions.
    It’s become ordinary.

    Oh, and it seems you’ve left your Caps Lock on again.
    ———————
    You sure leatherfest isn’t yelling at you? I think he is yelling at you…definitely yelling. Green and gold!

  57. Based on this board, seems Packers fans are underestimating the 49ers. Sure you can thrive in your fun underdog bubble,but let’s get real. Niners adding Dee Ford, Kwon Alexander, and Joe Staley for a rematch of a 38-7 blowout? Come on now, come on.

  58. ronfai says:
    January 14, 2020 at 7:09 pm
    Based on this board, seems Packers fans are underestimating the 49ers. Sure you can thrive in your fun underdog bubble,but let’s get real. Niners adding Dee Ford, Kwon Alexander, and Joe Staley for a rematch of a 38-7 blowout? Come on now, come on.
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    Not sure how much help Michele kwon and Jason Alexander can’t help but more power to Santa Clara. Green and gold is the real honey badger!

  59. The Niners have been the best team in the NFC this year. As a Packers fan, I know the Packers will have to be at their very best to beat them.
    I tip my hat to the Niners but I am not shaking in my boots nor is any other Packers fan because the Packers have to play them in their stadium this week. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
    So good luck Niners fans and I above all else, I hope it’s a great game.
    And remember — no one gave the Titans a chance against the Ravens either.
    So tee it up and let’s get it on!

  60. I find it interesting that some — and I use the word “some” here — Niners fans are saying the officials are biased toward the Packers.
    This coming from fans of a team which has this as part of their history when they were winning Super Bowls with Joe Montana:
    Until The Patriots were fined for “Deflategate”, the Niners had received the largest fine in the history of the league. The NFL fined owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr $1 million for “conduct detrimental to the league” in 1999.
    Gov. Edwin Edwards of Louisiana had been extorting DeBartolo to obtain a riverboat casino license, and DeBartolo failed to report him. That’s a felony. DeBartolo pleaded guilty and had to give the 49ers to his sister, Denise DeBartolo, and her husband, John York.
    Before Eddie gave the Niners away, his ownership group was notorious. The NFL fined Eddie’s vice president, Carmen Policy, $400,000 for violating the salary cap in 1997 and 2000.
    And in 1990, the NFL fined the 49ers $500,000 for violating the league’s corporate ownership policy.
    In a span of 10 years, the Niners racked up almost $2 million in fines.
    So — to you Niners fans who are tossing untrue slings at the Packers and officials, remember — people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

  61. The 49ers have the better team, played better during the season and have all the momentum in the world. But football is a funny game and little things like who scores first and turnovers tend to get magnified in the playoffs. If it ends up being close in the 4th qtr, tell me, Who would you rather have at QB? Rodgers or Jimmy G. It’s up the Packers to get it close and let the pressure of a looming Super Bowl get its hands around Jimmy G’s neck and hope for the best.

  62. The Packers are playing good football right now and their defense has been improving every week. Who will win? We will find out Sunday. I have a feeling this game will be nothing like the last matchup. These are two teams who are playing well. It will probably be close. As a Packers fan, I hope they win. They can if they play well and put together a complete game for the first time this season. I bet there won’t be any partying all night before the game going on this time.

  63. nyneal says:
    January 14, 2020 at 7:32 pm
    I find it interesting that some — and I use the word “some” here — Niners fans are saying the officials are biased toward the Packers.
    This coming from fans of a team which has this as part of their history when they were winning Super Bowls with Joe Montana:
    Until The Patriots were fined for “Deflategate”, the Niners had received the largest fine in the history of the league. The NFL fined owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr $1 million for “conduct detrimental to the league” in 1999.
    Gov. Edwin Edwards of Louisiana had been extorting DeBartolo to obtain a riverboat casino license, and DeBartolo failed to report him. That’s a felony. DeBartolo pleaded guilty and had to give the 49ers to his sister, Denise DeBartolo, and her husband, John York.
    Before Eddie gave the Niners away, his ownership group was notorious. The NFL fined Eddie’s vice president, Carmen Policy, $400,000 for violating the salary cap in 1997 and 2000.
    And in 1990, the NFL fined the 49ers $500,000 for violating the league’s corporate ownership policy.
    In a span of 10 years, the Niners racked up almost $2 million in fines.
    So — to you Niners fans who are tossing untrue slings at the Packers and officials, remember — people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
    ————————

    But what if your house is made of old Levi’s jeans?

    Green and gold!!!

  64. Oh no, go ahead and underestimate them. The Packers are as soft as a gummy bear. They’ll wilt by the 2nd quarter.

  65. nyneal says:
    January 14, 2020 at 7:32 pm
    I find it interesting that some — and I use the word “some” here — Niners fans are saying the officials are biased toward the Packers.
    This coming from fans of a team which has this as part of their history when they were winning Super Bowls with Joe Montana:
    Until The Patriots were fined for “Deflategate”, the Niners had received the largest fine in the history of the league. The NFL fined owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr $1 million for “conduct detrimental to the league” in 1999.
    Gov. Edwin Edwards of Louisiana had been extorting DeBartolo to obtain a riverboat casino license, and DeBartolo failed to report him. That’s a felony. DeBartolo pleaded guilty and had to give the 49ers to his sister, Denise DeBartolo, and her husband, John York.
    Before Eddie gave the Niners away, his ownership group was notorious. The NFL fined Eddie’s vice president, Carmen Policy, $400,000 for violating the salary cap in 1997 and 2000.
    And in 1990, the NFL fined the 49ers $500,000 for violating the league’s corporate ownership policy.
    In a span of 10 years, the Niners racked up almost $2 million in fines.
    So — to you Niners fans who are tossing untrue slings at the Packers and officials, remember — people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
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    None of that has anything to do with anything on the field.

    It is a basic fact the Packers get 7-10 points from the officials virtually every game. They got at least 8 points and the key first down last week.

    As another example, the Seahawks got zero offensive holding calls by their opponents in their last six games. Can you imagine the Packers going six games without getting the benefit of a holding call? Or any other team for that matter?

    Nah, me either.

  66. If I recall, the Packers got screwed on a fumble turnover on the Seahawks opening drive. That only leaves a referee’s “credit” of three points and they won by five. I guess that means they would’ve won anyway……..as long as we’re talking “basic facts.”

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