Tom Coughlin: In any big game, I want Eli Manning as my quarterback

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Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning won two Super Bowls together with the Giants, and although Coughlin is done coaching and Manning is done playing, Coughlin still thinks if he had to coach a big game again, he’d want Manning with him.

Coughlin said at Manning’s retirement ceremony that he’d pick Manning over anyone if he had to pick one quarterback to win one big game.

“If there’s gonna be a big game,” Coughlin said, via the New York Post, “I want him to be my quarterback, ’cause how he performs in the big ones is amazing to me. Always was. I was proud and honored to be his coach.”

Manning lost as many games as he won as a regular-season starter over the course of his NFL career, but he’ll be remembered primarily for those two Super Bowls, both of which earned him an MVP. That’s what Coughlin remembers most.

77 responses to “Tom Coughlin: In any big game, I want Eli Manning as my quarterback

  1. Thank you Eli for an amazing Superbowl win over the Patriots on my 21st birthday back in February 3rd 2008! You had just beaten my Packers 2 weeks prior at Lambeau field, you but came out guns-a-blazing and pulled off the miracle upset!

  2. Eli Manning in 6 Road playoff games & 2 Superbolws:

    W/L: 6-2
    14 TD 4 INT
    2X SB MVP

    These are the facts.

  3. Other than two crazy half-season runs that got 2 SBs, this pairing was mediocre. Even those two SBs were lucky – in the first a blindly thrown helmet catch and some helpful refs, and in the second they were very lucky to get through the NFCCG and then faced a depleted Pats down to fielding WRs on D. Were it not for the helmet catch, would these guys have even survived the poor years until 2011? No, 2 lucky titles ensured Giants were stuck with them.

  4. I’d rather have Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, and Jason Pierre-Paul. I don’t know about you guys.

  5. It’s obvious Eli is getting into the Hall of Decent so let’s just look at it like this……take him and the last 12 inducted QBs and tell me which one you would be ok with to start your franchises 1-2 decade playoff run……Eli would be dead last.

  6. I guess that’s the slope we’re on when we started inducting players to the Hall based on two or three great years in an otherwise modest career.

    Eight playoff wins that led to two SBs, great. Nothing about the other 230+ games he played in.

  7. danglion says:

    January 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    Trouble is, with a .500 QB, you have to assemble a pretty special team to even see a big game. Eli is/was average at best.
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    Yet only 19 other qbs have ever started at least 2 superbowls. Eli was never the best but he was good and played great in big moments. If Eli was average at best no team would have allowed him to start 200 straight times. “Average at best” players, especially qbs, are replaced constantly.

  8. Sunday Swami says:
    January 25, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    danglion says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    Trouble is, with a .500 QB, you have to assemble a pretty special team to even see a big game. Eli is/was average at best.

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    Yet only 19 other qbs have ever started at least 2 superbowls. Eli was never the best but he was good and played great in big moments. If Eli was average at best no team would have allowed him to start 200 straight times. “Average at best” players, especially qbs, are replaced constantly.

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    Eli started in numerous games for the Giants because of the organization’s nostalgia. They should have moved on from him back in like 2013 or 2014. He threw like 27 picks in 2013 and 25 picks in 2010. He had fourteen double digit interception seasons in his career, in this softest era of professional football. If he deserves to get selected into the hall of fame because one or two good seasons, that means Nick Foles and Joe Flacco should get in as well. I swear, the hall of fame doesn’t mean as much anymore. A bunch of average scrubs are making it in.

  9. @footballseasonrules – to put your double digit int seasons in perspective Favre had 18 seasons, Peyton 16, Warner 7 yet only had 8 seasons of 10 or more starts.
    To show why your other argument fails. Eli>Flacco>Foles TDS 366>212>71. Seasons over 30 tds 3>0>0, seasons over 20 tds 12>6>1. Seasons with a qb rating over 85 9>5(with 1 seasons being last yr where he missed 8 games)>3(although in those seasons he only started 10 games, 1 and 5). Let’s not forget the important ability of availability seasons starting all 16 games 13>9>0. Theres no comparison between the 3.

  10. Hard to argue with 2 superbowls. I don’t care how good his D-Line was.

    And last time I checked Aikman, Montana, and Brady had good defenses when they won superbowls too.

    The more I think about it….. Brees, Flacco, Ben, Russel,

    Geez, what QB didn’t have a good D when they got a ring? Maybe Peytons 1st ring? But thats arguable.

  11. Yes, two time SB MVP, but the first one should have gone to Justin Tuck. Had a monster game, harassing Brady while eliminating the run. NE had 274 net yards of offence that day.

  12. Those of you berating Eli’s regular season record, remember: after winning SB42, the Giants started 2008 11-1, were on cruise control to the NFC 1 seed, and were the NFC favorite to not only reach SB43 but win it.

    Then Plax shot himself and derailed the rest of that season. Had Coughlin and Eli gotten that back-to-back along with SB46, no one would be arguing right now.

  13. 8oneanddones says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm
    How did Asante Samuel miss that ball on the play before the Tyree play? How?

    51 17 Rate This

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    How did the ref, standing 8 yards away, miss 3 different holding calls on Seymour, Jarvis Green or Adalius Thomas on the Tyree catch? And, that doesn’t even count the in the grasp/fear of rouging factor when manning was sacked.

    Years later we now “know how” these things occur in Goodell’s league when he feels pressure to get NE to lose by other owners.

  14. baltimoresnativeson says:
    January 25, 2020 at 3:39 pm
    Hard to argue with 2 superbowls. I don’t care how good his D-Line was.

    And last time I checked Aikman, Montana, and Brady had good defenses when they won superbowls too.

    The more I think about it….. Brees, Flacco, Ben, Russel,

    Geez, what QB didn’t have a good D when they got a ring? Maybe Peytons 1st ring? But thats arguable.

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    By your logic, Jim Plunkett and Phil Simms are both HOF bound, like yesterday.

    Each has 2 sb rings. Nice pro careers, 2 rings but not a hof career like Eli.

    Phil Simms’s SB 21 blows away anything Eli did in a sb. Closing kne’s eyes and lobbing up a wounded duck is not really mvp material.

  15. Sunday Swami says:
    January 25, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    to put your double digit int seasons in perspective Favre had 18 seasons, Peyton 16, Warner 7 yet only had 8 seasons of 10 or more starts.
    To show why your other argument fails. Eli>Flacco>Foles TDS 366>212>71. Seasons over 30 tds 3>0>0, seasons over 20 tds 12>6>1. Seasons with a qb rating over 85 9>5(with 1 seasons being last yr where he missed 8 games)>3(although in those seasons he only started 10 games, 1 and 5). Let’s not forget the important ability of availability seasons starting all 16 games 13>9>0. Theres no comparison between the 3.

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    Favre earned the record for most to touchdown passes, he was selected first team All Pro three times, he won three MVP awards, he was selected to the pro bowl 11 times, he led the league in touchdown passes four times, he had two super bowl appearances, and he once had the all-time passing yards record. Brett, Brady, and Peyton started their careers when quarterbacks could get sacked at their knees and illegal contact flags were virtually nonexistent.

    Peyton threw 55 touchdown passes in a single season, and most of what I said for Favre could be applied for Peyton. Interceptions can be excused if you also have a lot of touchdown and passing records, which Eli does not. To add to that, Peyton played in four super bowls. All of what you just proved to everyone is that Eli is the best of the average pile of quarterbacks. For Flacco, we could say that he had a better completion percentage than Eli. That’s not saying much. Eli is not hall of fame material. Case closed.

  16. Geez Tom. I’d must rather have your other QB Mark Brunnell playing the big game than Eli trying to rely on his WR to catch a football with his helmet.

  17. Every Sunday is a big game regardless of opponent. Those weekly big games get you to play in January, as long as you win a big chunk of those – yes – big games during the regular season.

  18. 117-117. How many times were the Giants playing catch-up because the defense was allowed to rot under Reese? How about 5 years of an OFFENSIVE offensive line? Eli played on one side of the ball. Takes an entire team to lose. Fans who blame everything on one player are morons. If anyone failed the Giants it was the front office with poor drafting and mostly bad free agency decisions. But the haters are going to hate. And no one cares about facts.

  19. Tom Coughlin: In any big game, I want Eli Manning as my quarterback….as long as he makes no eye contact with me, doesn’t chew gum during film review, or listens to any of that Rock n Roll noise.

  20. Patsareinyourheads says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    Eli Manning -8 playoff wins in 16 years.
    Tom Brady – 30 wins in 18 years
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    Tom Brady – unknown amount of cheating scandals
    Manning – 0 cheating scandals
    Brady – top 10 defenses – his whole career. A lot of top 5 and numerous cheating scandals
    Manning – maybe 2 top 10 defenses
    #facts

  21. Of course! He wants his guy to get into the HOF. I don’t think Eli has anything worry about. I think there are less than 10 QB’s with multiple super bowls. When we argue about the greatest QB’s of all time, super bowl wins is a huge part of the conversation. There are a lot of QB’s already in the HOF that don’t have as many rings as Eli. He’s a shoe in.

  22. crookedcreek1893 says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Eli Manning in 6 Road playoff games & 2 Superbolws:

    W/L: 6-2
    14 TD 4 INT
    2X SB MVP

    These are the facts.
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    Went to the team that drafted him:No
    Led NFL in TD passes: 0 seasons
    Lead NFL in INTs: 3 seasons
    Times Giants were 1 and done in the playoffs under Eli: 4
    Playoff games Eli had thrown at least two INTs and no TDs: 2

    Career completion percentage: Jameis Winston 61.3%
    Eli Manning 60.3%
    Without Tyrees miracle catch, Eli doesn’t win the the SB MVP, nor that game

  23. patriotmaleorgy says:
    January 25, 2020 at 4:46 pm

    Tom Brady – unknown amount of cheating scandals
    Manning – 0 cheating scandals
    Brady – top 10 defenses – his whole career. A lot of top 5 and numerous cheating scandals
    Manning – maybe 2 top 10 defenses
    #facts
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    Brady had zero cheating scandals, which is probably why you don’t know how many.

    Selling fake “game worn” jerseys should have been a scandal, but since he was a Manning, the NFL looked the other way.

  24. Patriot fans, forgot the idea that Eli was “In the grasp”. That wouldn’t have been called in the regular season let alone the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl.

  25. Sunday Swami says:
    January 25, 2020 at 2:14 pm
    danglion says:

    Yet only 19 other qbs have ever started at least 2 superbowls. Eli was never the best but he was good and played great in big moments. If Eli was average at best no team would have allowed him to start 200 straight times. “Average at best” players, especially qbs, are replaced constantly.

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    60% career completion percentage, 84 career rating. That is the definition of an average career. Compared to him Case Keenum would be a lock for the hall of fame. Case has 62% career comp, and 85.3 rating. According to stats Keenum would’ve been the better bet to start.

    Much like Joe Flacco without those SB wins, Eli would’ve been gone long ago. Why was Eli even on the team the last 2 years after he was benched to evaluate the other QBs on the roster? 2 years wasted because of an owner who demanded Eli remain the starter.

  26. Brady had zero cheating scandals, which is probably why you don’t know how many.

    Selling fake “game worn” jerseys should have been a scandal, but since he was a Manning, the NFL looked the other way.

    2 0

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    No different than the Gomer Manning Guyer PED cover up by Goodell
    and the Manning family. And that was right on the heels of Goodell caught framing Brady using Article 46 as his excuse to frame. Oh, the irony and web of Goodell’s cheating cauldron.

    “Hi Roger, John Mara here…..Remember, I hold 1/3 of the power in this league. I am sure you want to retain your 30 mil per year job. Good day.”

  27. charliecharger says:
    January 25, 2020 at 4:48 pm
    Of course! He wants his guy to get into the HOF. I don’t think Eli has anything worry about. I think there are less than 10 QB’s with multiple super bowls. When we argue about the greatest QB’s of all time, super bowl wins is a huge part of the conversation. There are a lot of QB’s already in the HOF that don’t have as many rings as Eli. He’s a shoe in.

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    I expect Plunkett and Simms to be announced as such tomorrow.

    Thanks.

  28. streetyson
    3h ago
    Other than two crazy half-season runs that got 2 SBs, this pairing was mediocre. Even those two SBs were lucky – in the first a blindly thrown helmet catch and some helpful refs, and in the second they were very lucky to get through the NFCCG and then faced a depleted Pats down to fielding WRs on D. Were it not for the helmet catch, would these guys have even survived the poor years until 2011? No, 2 lucky titles ensured Giants were stuck with them.

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    You have excuses for everything. They were beaten. Fair and square. They lost. Period. They choked that perfect season away.

  29. Brady owes it all to Belichick. It’s amazing how they found a way to lose twice to Giants and Eli. That should make Eli first ballot HOF. And 500 regular season is right but, then again you were playing in NFC East which never like eternal one legit team division like AFC east.

    I don’t hate Brady. But he isn’t a GOAT or anything. I would love to see what he looks like when Belichick isn’t coaching his team. Guess we will never know.

  30. Coughlin isn’t the only one who chose Manning over any other QB in BIG games, and it worked out pretty good for them, too. Especially the ones watching from Las Vegas.

  31. Jason Harshman says:
    January 25, 2020 at 6:13 pm
    Outside of the two SB years Eli and NYG were 0-3 in the playoffs in 14 years.
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    Hmmm, a Pats cheerleader must have been watching Eli’s two Super Bowls from Las Vegas and is still a little sore.

  32. Patsareinyourheads says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    Eli Manning -8 playoff wins in 16 years.
    Tom Brady – 30 wins in 18 years.

    AND TWO GIANT LOSSES
    18-1 BABY THE GOAT GOT MILKED

  33. Apparently you didn’t have too many big games….Or you are choosing to look the other way.

    Like Big Cat said, if they played the Ravens and Chargers in the Superbowl, we wouldn’t be talking HOF here. Slightly Above Average shouldn’t do it. The Patriots presence in those games is what elevates him. That says more about the Patriots than it does Manning.

  34. what’s he supposed to say? look at me I was a great coach? coughlin was in fact a great coach with a great defense and had his team ready to play. was it a fluke? yes, but they won the game. when you win you can spin it anyway you want. hats off.

  35. Wm Wm says:
    January 25, 2020 at 6:01 pm
    Brady owes it all to Belichick. It’s amazing how they found a way to lose twice to Giants and Eli. That should make Eli first ballot HOF. And 500 regular season is right but, then again you were playing in NFC East which never like eternal one legit team division like AFC east.

    I don’t hate Brady. But he isn’t a GOAT or anything. I would love to see what he looks like when Belichick isn’t coaching his team. Guess we will never
    ——
    You’re trying too hard. We May never see Tom without Bill, but we have seen Bill without Tom, and what is his record without Tom? Bill would tell you himself, players play the game and players win games.

  36. Well if you had Eli as your QB, you probably wouldn’t make it to the most important games that often. He was an average QB at best. Take out, not those two years that he won the SB, but, two specific instances of miraculous catches and what you have. Look at his stats. Average to below average stats for what QB’s put up in his era. He should not be a HOF, but, he will get in, mainly because of his last name. If his name was Eli Smith, he wouldn’t get much serious consideration. If anyone thinks that his name won’t play a part of his HOF vote, then you are not the brightest bulb.

  37. eagleswin says:60% career completion percentage, 84 career rating. That is the definition of an average career. Compared to him Case Keenum would be a lock for the hall of fame. Case has 62% career comp, and 85.3 rating. According to stats Keenum would’ve been the better bet to start.

    Much like Joe Flacco without those SB wins, Eli would’ve been gone long ago. Why was Eli even on the team the last 2 years after he was benched to evaluate the other QBs on the roster? 2 years wasted because of an owner who demanded Eli remain the starter.
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    Your not comparing 2 similar careers your cherry picking numbers to try and support your argument without giving context. Keenum has started so few times that his numbers are inflated by 1 fluke season where he was replaced the following year by Minnesota which confirms as I said that “average at best” players are replaced or their attempted to be replaced every year. Further on your numbers Favre has a 86 rating, 62 completion %. Its not about 1 stat or 1 number it’s about the complete body of work.

  38. las0023 says:
    January 25, 2020 at 5:06 pm
    Patriot fans, forgot the idea that Eli was “In the grasp”. That wouldn’t have been called in the regular season let alone the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl.

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    Oh YEAH? The following season, Pats backup QB Matt Cassel was called “in the grasp” against the Miami Dolphins, and in this season, I believe it was Seahawks QB Russell Wilson who was also called “in the grasp,” this season and he was “in the grasp” for a shorter time than Eli Manning was in that Super Bowl, so they DO call it in the “regular season. I mean, the referee, Mike Carey was looking right at Manning. How long did he have to be “in the damned grasp?” until Carey got permission from Goodell? Ridiculous

  39. And so begins the posturing for Eli’s induction into the HOF. And hey, how bout Jim Plunket? He also won two Superbowls and had a career winning percentage of .500. Too bad he doesnt have a Daddy and Big Brother like Eli does.

  40. @footballseasonrules- correct 1 stat doesnt make a case 1 way or the other which you fail to see unless it benefits your side. You also fail to show that Eli threw for 366 tds so yes he threw a lot of tds as hes 7th all time. It’s also not about who had a great season it’s about a CAREER and Eli judged by the whole body of work is no doubt a hall of Famer.

  41. tylawspick6 says:
    January 25, 2020 at 3:56 pm
    8oneanddones says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm
    How did Asante Samuel miss that ball on the play before the Tyree play? How?

    51 17 Rate This

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    How did the ref, standing 8 yards away, miss 3 different holding calls on Seymour, Jarvis Green or Adalius Thomas on the Tyree catch? And, that doesn’t even count the in the grasp/fear of rouging factor when manning was sacked.

    Years later we now “know how” these things occur in Goodell’s league when he feels pressure to get NE to lose by other owners.
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    Still can’t get that taste out of your mouth, eh?

  42. At least he didn’t have the HGH skull that Peyton choose for himself. Can’t hide that crown of shame.

  43. This is the same guy that signed Nick Foles…….so much for his ability to gauge top QB talent. Manning was awful the for the past 5 or so years…to say he HOF is laughable….this narrative is only because his last name is Manning.

  44. Do you think Manning could come back from 28-3? How about 24-14 against the Legion of Boom?

    All Asante Samuel had to do was NOT mistime a very unnecessary jump to squeeze that duck Eli floated him. Maybe Samuel was paralyzed with disbelief at the worst pass in SB history. Maybe he thought there must have been an intended receiver in the area code poised to contest possession of it. But alas there was no one in the vicinity. If Samuel catches that ball, history is about as rewritten as if the Germans had won WWII. Patriots seal 19-0. There is no Manning Big Game magic. No HOF eligibility. That ONE play changed everything.

    Remember when Manning was strip sacked by Adalius Thomas coming off the edge? I was sure Pierre Woods really recovered that fumble for the Patrio ts. He was the only man in the area code. He put his body in top of it. How in the world did it get awarded to the Giants RB who crashed that one man pile like 5 seconds later?

    How did Manning not get whistled in the grasp of Jarvis Green? Green had some critical sacks of his brother Peyton. The official in an interview some time later acknowledged that he would have blown the whistle had it not been the decisive drive of the championship game. In other words, he had two sets of rules — something the league is not keen on in recent years. But it doesn’t matter. It would have been 4th and long, yes, but given the way THIS game was going, there was no way the Patriots by the grace of God or the league office were going to be allowed to win THIS one. how inappropriate would it have been for the Patriots to register the NFL’s only 19-0 season after being accused and punished severely for Spygate? It was meant to be. Something even more bizarre would have had to happen if necessary but the Giants would have converted that 4th and long.

  45. In both of those NY Giants SB wins Tom Brady left the field with the lead. Yes the NYG won those games but hardly Brady’s loss. The defense got beat.

  46. The guy played on some trash teams. Even with talented players, they always underachieved. The fact that he managed a .500 record with those teams should get him in the Hall hahaha.

  47. The most annoying this about the HOF debate is hearing Pats fans compare ANY player/coach to Brady or Belichick. It’s always like ” well, this player/coach only won 1 Super Bowl, blah blah blah” They act like only players associated w/ the Pats should get in the HOF. They ignore the body of work the HOF panel is looking at.

  48. Eli is top ten in every historical statistical category that matters at the QB position. And he ha 2 SB MVPs. Yeah, he’s getting in.

  49. Eli also had a lot of luck. His 2 biggest completions required a bit of luck. He also had luck when Frisco’s punt returner fumbled the ball. Otherwise he would not even be in the Super Bowl in 2011. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good.

  50. “steves11 says:
    January 26, 2020 at 8:22 am

    I guess that Coughlin didn’t consider those playoff losses to the Eagles “big games”.

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    I think he was counting Super Bowls.

  51. Every QB with 350 TD passes and over 50,000 passing yards are in the HOF.
    Eli had 366 TD, 57,000 plus passing yards. Kurt Warner and Steve Young are in the Hall.
    Young had 33,124 passing yards and 233 TD’s. Eli belongs in the HOF. The argument against is stupid and wrong.

  52. Steve Young and Kurt Warner were league MVPs. Eli never was.

    Steve Young had the highest career passer rating at the time of his retirement.

    Both Young and Warner had to play in different pro leagues before they got their shot in the NFL. Eli held San Diego hostage in the NFL draft, and got far more privileged treatment throughout his career than perhaps any modern player. Eli has his 2 Super Bowl wins (as does Plunkett), and his consecutive starts streak (better players have been benched much sooner for less) to his credit.

    To argue in favor of Young and Warner in comparison to Eli is not stupid when you actually look at the careers.

  53. Super Bowl trophies are a sign of team success, whereas the Hall of Fame should be reserved for individual greatness. What about Eli is great? He made the Pro Bowl in four seasons, while leading the league in interceptions three times. He won two Super Bowls, but made the playoffs in less than half of his seasons. The last eight years of his career, his record was 38-67 (about the same winning percentage as Rick Mirer).

    I would put him in the same class as Donovan McNabb (better individual performance, lack of team success in big games), Drew Bledsoe (good but never great for a long time), and Joe Flacco (one great playoff run instead of two). If his last name was not Manning and he played in Tampa Bay instead of New York, no one would be calling him a surefire Hall of Famer.

  54. artieklein ///// whatever

    I noticed you conveniently didn’t respond to this part.

    “Every QB with 350 TD passes and over 50,000 passing yards are in the HOF.

    Eli had 366 TD, 57,000 plus passing yards”. Just stop. I am not even a Giants fan.

  55. danglion says:
    January 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    Trouble is, with a .500 QB, you have to assemble a pretty special team to even see a big game. Eli is/was average at best./////

    You,Mike,Big Cat and others need to stop with the average at best stuff. He is in the top 10 statistically in passing stats in NFL history. That is not average.

    7th in career passing yards.
    7th in career completions.
    6th in career attempts.
    7th in career TD passes.

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