Bill Belichick reached out to Kyle Shanahan after Super Bowl LI

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49ers coach Kyle Shanahan has acknowledged he’s learned plenty of things about football since his days with the Falcons, when his team blew a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl against the Patriots.

But he also learned something about the character of Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

Via Scott Bair of NBCSportsBayArea.com, Shanahan said Monday night that Belichick called him after that game.

It was really cool that he reached out to me after the Super Bowl just to talk,” Shanahan said. “I was able to spend some time with him at the [2017] NFL Combine, which I was very appreciative of.

“Any time that guy talks, everyone in the world listens. That was especially true for someone like me who aspired to be a head coach. He has been great. It’s not like we talk a ton or anything, but he’s a humble guy who likes to help people.”

For Shanahan, it was also a bit of a flashback, although he was glad to be able to participate in the conversation.

Belichick met with Shanahan’s father Mike after the Broncos beat his team in the 2005 playoffs, and Kyle was hanging around his dad’s office at the time.

“I got kicked out of the room, and I had to sit and wait,” Shanahan said. “I remember my dad saying how cool that was for him to come over after the game, after the Patriots had lost, just to talk ball with him.”

The relationship rekindled when the Patriots traded quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers, and it’s generally acknowledged that the Patriots didn’t hold out for the highest bidder, with Belichick sending his backup to a place he thought he could prosper.

“Having someone like Bill say something like that, for me and what I do in life, if pretty cool,” Shanahan said. “That’s a big a compliment as I could personally have. It feels great. Hopefully that’s true because I’m very glad he felt that way, and I feel very fortunate that we were able to get Jimmy.”

That kind of respect within the coaching fraternity is rare for someone so young, but also indicative of the job Shanahan has done turning the 49ers around so quickly.

119 responses to “Bill Belichick reached out to Kyle Shanahan after Super Bowl LI

  1. Hi Kyle

    I’m just reaching out to you to say thanks for going conservative & letting us back in the game. Then when all you needed was a FG to seal it & basically could’ve just kneeled on it & kicked one you decided to do a 15 yrd dropback pass for a sack.

    Thank you for being such & idiot.

    Are you sure you’re not a Vikings coach? That’s the dumb stuff they usually pull.

  2. Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.

  3. BB is a good man. And, a great coach. A teacher.

    And like many people, compartmentalizes business from personal feelings.

    Except the press. He hates the press.

    And he doesn’t care what you or I think.

  4. “generally acknowledged that the Patriots didn’t hold out for the highest bidder, with Belichick sending his backup to a place he thought he could prosper”

    Well the media may have a distaste for Billy B but I’m sure the players take notice of this stuff.

  5. As a jet fan that just celebrated our 20 year anniversary of bill resigning from the jets on a napkin, the guy is the best coach and its not even close. Watch the saban and belicheck cable special really gives an inside look. They pay attention to every single detail and that why they both are the goats

  6. Bill Belichick is a class act all the way! Man, update that pic to put a lightsabber in is hand and he’s the Emperor from Star Wars.

  7. Belichick is classy a head coach as they come. Talk to the other coaches and players and you will get the same response. The Falcons lost to a GREAT DYNASTY. A 28-3 lead against any other team would have been a win. But the Dynasty is the greatest team in NFL history. They are CLUTCH when the stakes are highest which is the true measure of a great team. Brady slayed many a team in the post season. Was best in clutch.

  8. “…he’s a humble guy who likes to help people.”
    Unquestionably the last time you will ever hear Bill Belichick described this way.

  9. If you want the truth about Belichick talk to other coaches players and football historians and especially players who played for Patriots. Alternatively you could listen to the trash gossip put out by incompetent hacks in the media. For those idiots Belichick has nothing but contempt. Especially the lowly scum who try to stir up and find controversy and tabloid crap. Belichick destroyed them.

  10. People can continue to make up “cheating” nonsense about BB all they want. Those that actually work and talk with him know better… Class all the way.

  11. Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.
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    Landry and Shula would say different…

  12. tylawspick6 says:

    BB is all class.

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    I like the classy way he runs off the field without shaking hands when the Patriots lose.

  13. Superbowl 49 is remembered for how it ended with Malcolm Butler’s interception -but you have never heard Bill Belichick make a comment about Pete Carroll’s decision making, not even in the Three Games to Glory DVD. He is a classy winner (although he is human and is occasionally bitter after a loss-the Ravens loss with the replacement officials comes to mind).

  14. Compare that to the times when Belicheat lost the Super Bowl and zipped past everyone to go sulk in the locker room. Amazing how gracious you can be when you win. True character is defined by how you act when you lose.

  15. markspeicher says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:59 am
    Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.
    ________________
    Landry and Shula would say different…

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    Shula could not even get my team a single SB victory when we had Dan Marino. He is not even in Belichick’ league

  16. Bill doesn’t care about anything but football, and that’s the part that people can’t seem to comprehend. He doesn’t care about who’s saying what on social media, and he doesn’t care that you noticed the fact that he doesn’t care. He just focuses on football, and he takes in every single little detail because he obsesses with football. Can the press understand that? No they can’t they wanna get him to be funny like Rex Ryan was, or they want him to get angry like some coaches do, and say something stupid, but Bill isn’t going to give you that he’d rather give you that stupid look that he loves to give when the reporters question is annoying. He’s the greatest of all time that’s it end of story

  17. Champ Bailey, Gil Brandt, Kevin Mawae, Ed Reed and obviously Ty Law, all mentioned BB in their HOF speech this past summer

  18. What Bill wanted to say…

    I knew your signs and you still beat me. Won’t happen again if I’m the HC because I’m going to have a videotape coordinator.

  19. Shanahan is generally despised in Atlanta. He tossed away our Lombardi Trophy in a fit of immaturity and ego. Any peewee coach would have known to burn clock and keep it conservative. He needed the best coach ever to drop by and explain it? Most of America could’ve explained it to him while it was happening.

  20. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:17 am
    Compare that to the times when Belicheat lost the Super Bowl and zipped past everyone to go sulk in the locker room. Amazing how gracious you can be when you win. True character is defined by how you act when you lose.

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    Go back and read paragraphs 7 and 8

  21. markspeicher says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:59 am
    Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.
    ________________
    Landry and Shula would say different…

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    Shula…LMAO. The guy was a notorious cheater using his presence on the Competition COmmittee to design rules based on how his teams were built. This is something Polian did and what Whinebaugh does know.

    There’s a difference between class and perceived “class” by those who kiss the media’s butt to generate a phony reputation.

    BB has nothing but respect for the NFL, those involved (all but the cheaters on 345 Park Ave and some owners who cheat), from the top on down, past and present.

    Bout time he gets some basic respect for all he’s done in 45 years in the league.

  22. Great Story – I love it when sports sets the bar for civility and courtesy.

    I wish Political Leaders would follow the lead of Coach Belichick and Coach Shanahan.

    (as well as internet posters…including some here)

  23. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:17 am
    Compare that to the times when Belicheat lost the Super Bowl and zipped past everyone to go sulk in the locker room. Amazing how gracious you can be when you win. True character is defined by how you act when you lose.
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    If you’re Bill Polian, you lobby for rule changes. If you’re Harbaugh, you lobby for rule changes and try to frame innocent people. If you’re Grigson, you go along with laughable scams. If you’re Reid, you lobby for rule changes…

  24. “Belichick met with Shanahan’s father Mike after the Broncos beat his team in the 2005 playoffs, and Kyle was hanging around his dad’s office at the time.”

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    That’s interesting. Remember the game? New England laid an enormous egg. The Champ Baily/Ben Watson play, the special teams fumbles by Troy Brown and Ellis Hobbs, Brady was awful in his first playoff loss. I recall Belichick slammed his clipboard down hard after Troy Brown’s dagger fumble.

    An hour later, he’s meeting with the opposing coach to chat football. How many people would do that? Any true NFL fan has to appreciate Bill Belichick.

  25. I like the classy way he runs off the field without shaking hands when the Patriots lose.
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    When did this happen? Can you give us an extensive list or will you hide behind the keyboard like always? how much fun is your life that the highlight of your day is to post about the Pats?

  26. Compare that to the times when Belicheat lost the Super Bowl and zipped past everyone to go sulk in the locker room. Amazing how gracious you can be when you win. True character is defined by how you act when you lose.
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    Did bluetooth guy run off the field too before shaking anybody’s hand? You must have the absolute best character in all the land.

  27. lgw91s says:
    January 28, 2020 at 6:08 am
    I’m not sure who the 2nd best coach is in the NFL right now, but its a fairly large drop from #1.

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    Doug Pederson, only been a coach 4 years, 3 playoff appearances & a SB.

  28. markspeicher says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:59 am
    Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.
    ________________
    Landry and Shula would say different…

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    Shula!?!?!? Ha! OMG!! I just barfed in my mouth; snot and coffee came out of my nose— stuff’s coming out everywhere! Get me one of Shula’s Depends. . . quick!
    Shula!!!

  29. nyctraffic says: Shanahan is generally despised in Atlanta.

    Yeah, much better without him. Two 7-9 seasons

  30. vaster says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:30 am
    What Bill wanted to say…

    I knew your signs and you still beat me. Won’t happen again if I’m the HC because I’m going to have a videotape coordinator.

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    2010:

    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  31. “Shanahan is generally despised in Atlanta. He tossed away our Lombardi Trophy in a fit of immaturity and ego”

    And look how amazing the Falcons have done without him. The 49ers with Shanahan are in the SB, the Falcons without Shanahan are where right now?

  32. thecape15 says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:03 am

    BB is a good man. And, a great coach. A teacher.
    And like many people, compartmentalizes business from personal feelings.
    Except the press. He hates the press.
    And he doesn’t care what you or I think.

    ===========================
    No, Belichick does not hate the press. I’ve seen plenty of congenial and respectful exchanges with reporters over the years, even with Bill cracking a thin smile from time to time. It’s people, and not necessarily a member of the press, who ask obviously stupid questions that really chap Bill’s hide.

  33. 8oneanddones says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:46 am
    “Belichick met with Shanahan’s father Mike after the Broncos beat his team in the 2005 playoffs, and Kyle was hanging around his dad’s office at the time.”

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    That’s interesting. Remember the game? New England laid an enormous egg. The Champ Baily/Ben Watson play, the special teams fumbles by Troy Brown and Ellis Hobbs, Brady was awful in his first playoff loss. I recall Belichick slammed his clipboard down hard after Troy Brown’s dagger fumble.

    An hour later, he’s meeting with the opposing coach to chat football. How many people would do that? Any true NFL fan has to appreciate Bill Belichick.

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    This was also the game where they handed Denver a free 7 points off the Bailey touchback, as the ball flew over the pylon/end zone and out of bounds.

    I won’t mention the false start by the RG on the FG before half by Elam or the ridiculous call on Samuel covering Lelie with textbook inside position where Plummer launched the ball 5 yards out of the back of the end zone, where it was completely uncatchable. Nope, 1st and goal for Denver and another free 7 points.

    It all makes sense now. ALl the creepy, gifted TDs and points in favor of NE’s opponnet started when Goodell took over.

    One year later, it would be the phantom “faceguarding” call on Ellis Hobbs, 1st and goal Indy, 7 points. That was AFTER a phantom off PI call on Troy Brown, where CBS refused to show the replay. All incredible suspicious.

  34. johnnycantread says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:05 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    BB is all class.

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    I like the classy way he runs off the field without shaking hands when the Patriots lose.

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    Except that doesn’t happen. Why is it on my tv, he’s always taking a direct B Line across the field to make sure he can get to the other coach to shake hands (win or lose)?

    You people are amazing with what you want to see and what you think you need to believe to make NE’s dominance seem less painful to you than it truly is.

  35. camstinks says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:19 am
    Bill doesn’t care about anything but football, and that’s the part that people can’t seem to comprehend. He doesn’t care about who’s saying what on social media, and he doesn’t care that you noticed the fact that he doesn’t care. He just focuses on football, and he takes in every single little detail because he obsesses with football. Can the press understand that? No they can’t they wanna get him to be funny like Rex Ryan was, or they want him to get angry like some coaches do, and say something stupid, but Bill isn’t going to give you that he’d rather give you that stupid look that he loves to give when the reporters question is annoying. He’s the greatest of all time that’s it end of story

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    Millennials don’t like BB because they’re whiny, entitled dorks who get their feelings hurt very easily.

    That’s one thing I’ve noticed about the dorky fans who comment on these kinds of boards.

    They need the re-assurance from something on the interwebs, because that is how they were raised.

    Sad, but true.

  36. Even with all his stubbornness and grumpiness Belichick does have an old school sense of honor few coaches have. I’m fine with that, just draft better this year.

  37. markspeicher says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Landry and Shula would say different….
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    OFC the cheating Dirty Don would say different, he sweats his phony legacy more than Mercury Morris does.

  38. No, Belichick does not hate the press. I’ve seen plenty of congenial and respectful exchanges with reporters over the years, even with Bill cracking a thin smile from time to time. It’s people, and not necessarily a member of the press, who ask obviously stupid questions that really chap Bill’s hide.

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    True. All good points.

  39. For those of you who may be younger NFL fans Bill Belichick was from the Tom Landry coaching tree. Landry was the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys for many years and he believed in preparation and making sure your players were ready to go on Sunday afternoons. Coaches who learn from Bill Belichick are also learning from Tom Landry. If you want to see a wild Cowboys game you tube “Clint Longley Thanksgiving day game”. It is something else.

  40. vermontdoubleipa says:
    January 28, 2020 at 10:16 am
    thecape15 says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:03 am

    BB is a good man. And, a great coach. A teacher.
    And like many people, compartmentalizes business from personal feelings.
    Except the press. He hates the press.
    And he doesn’t care what you or I think.

    ===========================
    No, Belichick does not hate the press. I’ve seen plenty of congenial and respectful exchanges with reporters over the years, even with Bill cracking a thin smile from time to time. It’s people, and not necessarily a member of the press, who ask obviously stupid questions that really chap Bill’s hide.

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    Or the ones who insult his intelligence with an agenda to ask questions that are intended to harm the team or divide the locker room. BB falls on that sword and I am glad he does. THe Boston sports media is 100% the worst by a mile in the entire country. Been that way since Ted Williams came to town in the late 30s.

  41. How can you call him classy the way he treats the press? They have a job to do too. But then you dump on Cam about his press conferences. Makes no sense.
    Cheating? He got caught and was fined quite heavily, but the same people that gloss over that, keeping bringing up the Ravens bluetooth guy.
    BB is among the greatest coaches of all time, but he is still a first class jerk.
    He has no respect for players. He will ship them off to Siberia before paying them another nickel. Practically stole money from Tom Brady and paid the rest of the players peanuts. I don’t like his win at all costs mentality. No wonder players have a miserable time in NE and many will look back on their careers a wish they could trade those ill-gotten rings for a retirement warchest. Just like Gronkowski said, you can’t enjoy winning up there. What? Why win, if you can’t enjoy it? At least Welker, Amendola and few others got in time for a decent NFL payday. Would you work for peanuts, so your company could be #1? I didn’t think so.

  42. nite2al says:
    January 28, 2020 at 10:41 am
    How can you call him classy the way he treats the press? They have a job to do too. But then you dump on Cam about his press conferences. Makes no sense.
    Cheating? He got caught and was fined quite heavily, but the same people that gloss over that, keeping bringing up the Ravens bluetooth guy.
    BB is among the greatest coaches of all time, but he is still a first class jerk.
    He has no respect for players. He will ship them off to Siberia before paying them another nickel. Practically stole money from Tom Brady and paid the rest of the players peanuts. I don’t like his win at all costs mentality. No wonder players have a miserable time in NE and many will look back on their careers a wish they could trade those ill-gotten rings for a retirement warchest. Just like Gronkowski said, you can’t enjoy winning up there. What? Why win, if you can’t enjoy it? At least Welker, Amendola and few others got in time for a decent NFL payday. Would you work for peanuts, so your company could be #1? I didn’t think so.

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    This couldn’t be further from the truth. The Boston media is notorious for being sneaky and instigating problems.

    Also, Jim Brown called BB the greatest athlete or coach to ever come through Cleveland in terms of donating his time for charity/volunteer work.

    There are tons of stories like this.

    It’s just that young people or adult Millennials think perception on an computer screen is more important than the truth or reality.

  43. frankiefiveangels says:
    January 28, 2020 at 10:30 am
    Even with all his stubbornness and grumpiness Belichick does have an old school sense of honor few coaches have. I’m fine with that, just draft better this year.

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    Draft better? The entire class was essentially forcibly red-shirted due to injury or the D being so loaded, players couldn’t get a spot.

    I will laugh myself silly if the two Willliamses (Barring JoeJuan’s current durg charges), Cajuste, Froholdt, Harry and Meyers all have a good impact in 2020.

    You Brady Fanboys will go to great lengths to not hold Brady accountable, it’s hilarious.

    2018 good looking picks start with Wynn and JC JAckson. We don’t even know these players’ ceilings yet.

    LOL

    Double LOL

  44. keeping bringing up the Ravens bluetooth guy.
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    We keep brining up bluetooth guy because you guys gloss over that. If the Pats had bluetooth guy on the sideline behind BB your endless crying would be, well, endless. You would be demanding fines, picks taken away and NFL banishment. You know you are lying if you say otherwise.

    Clearly you have never played for an old school coach. I bet you have a room full of participation ribbons/trophies. What you call no respect is what others would call holding a player accountable. The NFL is a business. You get paid to play and if you do not meet expectations you get shipped out. People in the business world get cut/fired all the time to appease the bottom line. As a big Pats hater you sure do follow them an awful lot. The best team in the regular season is not getting too much attention are they?

  45. Still amazing how few people fully grasp that Belichick is one of the pillars of the league. He’s been coaching in the NFL since 1975 and has been instrumental in the development of many of its most famous players including LT and Brady. He even has gone out of his way to help other teams in order to strengthen the league’s level of play, including recommending the Ravens hire Harbaugh and helping recent playoff teams like the Titans and Texans find their HCs. The fact he has continued to magnanimously help other coaches while facing nothing but scorn and backstabbing from the worst commissioner in the history of professional sports says everything you need to know about Goodell’s incredible insecurity and incompetence. I doubt it was lost on the league’s true powers that its ratings only started to rebound when Belichick’s face was put all over the Top 100 players production while Goodell banished to an Alaskan radar tower the entire season.

  46. SWFLPC.INC says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:19 am
    markspeicher says:
    January 28, 2020 at 8:59 am
    Proof once again, not that we needed any more proof, that Bill Belichick is not only the Greatest NFL Head Coach and Greatest NFL General Manager of All-Time, but he is also the classiest man to ever grace an NFL sideline.
    ________________
    Landry and Shula would say different…

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    Shula could not even get my team a single SB victory when we had Dan Marino. He is not even in Belichick’ league
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    Let’s not forget when Belichick was fired by the Browns he had the worst winning percentage of any of their coaches ever not including interns. Shula is 2 – 0 vs Belichick.
    Game. Set. Match

  47. No wonder players have a miserable time in NE and many will look back on their careers a wish they could trade those ill-gotten rings for a retirement warchest. Just like Gronkowski said, you can’t enjoy winning up there.

    Name one. JUST ONE! Gronk never said that. Gronk was miserable because he was sick of being hurt. Like Luck. Gronk is not coming back, but if he did, the only team he would play for is the Pats.

  48. All the idiots talking smack about Belichick the greatest coach to ever coach would sell their mother down the river for him to coach their team. Keep talking your fake envious trash fools. LMAO

  49. vikesfansteve says:
    January 28, 2020 at 7:38 am
    Hi Kyle

    I’m just reaching out to you to say thanks for going conservative & letting us back in the game. Then when all you needed was a FG to seal it & basically could’ve just kneeled on it & kicked one you decided to do a 15 yrd dropback pass for a sack.

    Thank you for being such & idiot.

    Are you sure you’re not a Vikings coach? That’s the dumb stuff they usually pull.

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    You seem confused. Just like your QB’s ability to read defenses.

  50. To tell him…Hey Kyle, next time you are 1st and 10 at the 22, and up by 8 with 4 minutes left, take 3 knees and kick the game winning FG
    But wait, I thought Tom Brady won that game all by himself? Is that the same game?
    Notice how all of Tb12’s great accomplishments happens after the game should have been over?

  51. Name one. JUST ONE! Gronk never said that. Gronk was miserable because he was sick of being hurt. Like Luck. Gronk is not coming back, but if he did, the only team he would play for is the Pats.
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    I don’t say Patriot negatives just to be saying them. I always explain my points and you are wrong. This is straight from the Boston Herald:

    During the Fox Sports broadcast on Sunday, former Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski raised some eyebrows when he talked about the culture in Foxboro not being fun, even after wins.

    “It’s like, ‘Yo, you guys are 9-1.’ That’s the one part I don’t miss about being there,” Gronkowski said. “Hands down, I’m not going to lie. I don’t miss that. They’re frustrated. They’re 9-1. They win a game against Philly last week. We lost to them two years ago in the Super Bowl. They should be happy. Instead, you’re sitting there Sunday night like, ‘What did I do wrong?’ No, that’s not the feeling you should have. You should be pumped about the win. Yeah you might not have put up the big offensive numbers that you put up but you won the game. Enjoy it, go out the next week and build off of it.”

    REST MY CASE!

  52. We keep brining up bluetooth guy because you guys gloss over that. If the Pats had bluetooth guy on the sideline behind BB your endless crying would be, well, endless. You would be demanding fines, picks taken away and NFL banishment. You know you are lying if you say otherwise.
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    Wrong again. I clearly stated after the Cincy sideline taping scandal that I didn’t think anything was there. But the NFL put way more into that investigation than blue tooth guy. Ah, try again.

  53. There is no doubt that Coach Belichick treats members of the Football fraternity with class. He is also a well read person with many interests and is interested in military history and lacrosse. It is unfortunate that his public persona as expressed by his interactions with the press is not similar, but that is his personal choice.

  54. After the Broncos beat the Pats in 2005 playoff game, coach BB called his long time friend Bill Cowher and provided game notes for the Steelers who had to play the Broncos in the AFC championship. The steelers won ofcourse. It was a classy and the type of gamesmanship I came to respect out of BB. Definitely the GOAT.

  55. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:17 am
    Compare that to the times when Belicheat lost the Super Bowl and zipped past everyone to go sulk in the locker room. Amazing how gracious you can be when you win. True character is defined by how you act when you lose.

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    You mean where he clearly says BB went and talked to his dad after Denver beat the Pats in the playoffs.

    Give it a break kid.

  56. johnodocks says:
    January 28, 2020 at 11:46 am
    No doubt BB is just trying to gather intelligence on one of his competitors.

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    No, he’s trying to learn and absorb. I was just watching Carolina beat NC State last night and they were talking about how Roy Williams went to Texas Tech IN SEASON to study their defensive tactics to see what made it so good.

    What a cheater Roy Williams is! How dare he try to do the best he can as a coach!

  57. nite2al says:
    January 28, 2020 at 11:29 am
    Name one. JUST ONE! Gronk never said that. Gronk was miserable because he was sick of being hurt. Like Luck. Gronk is not coming back, but if he did, the only team he would play for is the Pats.
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    I don’t say Patriot negatives just to be saying them. I always explain my points and you are wrong. This is straight from the Boston Herald:

    During the Fox Sports broadcast on Sunday, former Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski raised some eyebrows when he talked about the culture in Foxboro not being fun, even after wins.

    “It’s like, ‘Yo, you guys are 9-1.’ That’s the one part I don’t miss about being there,” Gronkowski said. “Hands down, I’m not going to lie. I don’t miss that. They’re frustrated. They’re 9-1. They win a game against Philly last week. We lost to them two years ago in the Super Bowl. They should be happy. Instead, you’re sitting there Sunday night like, ‘What did I do wrong?’ No, that’s not the feeling you should have. You should be pumped about the win. Yeah you might not have put up the big offensive numbers that you put up but you won the game. Enjoy it, go out the next week and build off of it.”

    REST MY CASE!

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    That has nothing to do with his overall experience. There’s a reason why Gronk played in 4 SBs and has 3 rings total.

    Him being broken down at the end and being worn out mentally, etc, has little to do with the idea Gronk never would have been as successful or as great elsewhere, with him knowing that, deep down.

    Same goes for Brady, Edelman, etc, really anyone who went to FA or could have left at least one other time in their career if they had wanted.

  58. Belichick had a bug surgically implanted in Jimmy G’s brain before he traded him so he could steal Shanahan’s secrets.

  59. Talk about exposing one’s self and an agenda. A supposed fan of another team can almost instantly quote the Boston Herald. That’s ok, because Gronk wasn’t even on the team when he made that quote. That was this year. The standards in NE are so high, it’s never good enough. Like Brady saying he wants to be perfect. How can I be better. Winning Championships is fun. Going to 9 SBowls is fun. Certainly made Gronk and Brady a lot of extra money. The 1 year dynasties think they have all the fun. Until it’s over. People can bring their agendas and grind their axes all they want. Fact is, the Pats are the greatest sports franchise of the century, and the greatest of the SBowl era, at a minimum. Case Closed.

  60. I don’t have a dog in this fight regarding the Belichick/Shula conversation but the facts speak for themselves. Though Shula coached for 33 years (head coach) and right now is the all time leader, his playoff record is less than impressive. For someone that had Unitas, Griese and Marino he really didn’t win or do all that well in post season games. His overall playoff record is 19-17 which includes going 2-4 in the Super Bowl. And in 14 of those 33 seasons his teams didn’t even make the playoffs.

  61. nite2al says:
    January 28, 2020 at 11:23 am
    To tell him…Hey Kyle, next time you are 1st and 10 at the 22, and up by 8 with 4 minutes left, take 3 knees and kick the game winning FG
    But wait, I thought Tom Brady won that game all by himself? Is that the same game?
    Notice how all of Tb12’s great accomplishments happens after the game should have been over?
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    Man, it must be really lonely up on that wall, defending against people who think BB and TB12 are pretty good – buck up there sport, at some point TB12 and BB will retire and you’re squad will have a 1/32 chance of getting to a SB again.

    In your mind, apparently, there’s no such thing as a comeback in sports – because the games over when you say it should have been? Too bad you have that view on sports, because you’ve been missing a ton of great games.

  62. firedog784 says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:21 pm
    I don’t have a dog in this fight regarding the Belichick/Shula conversation but the facts speak for themselves. Though Shula coached for 33 years (head coach) and right now is the all time leader, his playoff record is less than impressive. For someone that had Unitas, Griese and Marino he really didn’t win or do all that well in post season games. His overall playoff record is 19-17 which includes going 2-4 in the Super Bowl. And in 14 of those 33 seasons his teams didn’t even make the playoffs.

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    He was basically great early in his career and got worse as he got older. The thing was the Marino pick and the AFC East being pretty much mediocre or bad in the 1980s/early 90s save for Buffalo’s emergence in about ’87.

    He also was very lucky to have great GMs like George Young, both in Baltimore and Miami, before Beathard arrived in the late 70s, building those really good late 70s/early 80s Dolphins teams.

    Ironically, George Young went to the Giants with PArcells where BB was, so BB probably learned a lot from George Young today as the GM of the Pats.

    BB clearly blows Shula out of the water. It’s not close.

  63. I’m glad Belicheat was gracious ONCE when he lost to Denver but you can search up countless times he was a giant sore loser and snubbed everyone after he got his butt handed to him. To portray the guy as anything but a sour faced grouch following defeat is misleading. Plenty of other coaches have a good reputation for accepting defeat graciously. Not Belicheat. If he went to talk to the Denver coach, he probably snuck a camera crew in the back door to look for play sheets.

  64. patsarticlemustpost says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:53 am
    I like the classy way he runs off the field without shaking hands when the Patriots lose.
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    When did this happen? Can you give us an extensive list or will you hide behind the keyboard like always? how much fun is your life that the highlight of your day is to post about the Pats?
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    I’ve watched pretty much watched every Pats game since 1981. I only recall one time Belichick running off the field after a loss and that was to McDaniels in Denver. There was outrage, and comments about how he was a poor sport etc. only to find out, via video, that he had a conversation with McDaniels before the game and they agreed not to meet up on the field, regardless of the outcome, and would instead talk later. So please @patsarticlemustpost, provide a supportable example.

  65. Ostrich says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:53 pm
    patsarticlemustpost says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:53 am
    I like the classy way he runs off the field without shaking hands when the Patriots lose.
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    When did this happen? Can you give us an extensive list or will you hide behind the keyboard like always? how much fun is your life that the highlight of your day is to post about the Pats?
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    I’ve watched pretty much watched every Pats game since 1981. I only recall one time Belichick running off the field after a loss and that was to McDaniels in Denver. There was outrage, and comments about how he was a poor sport etc. only to find out, via video, that he had a conversation with McDaniels before the game and they agreed not to meet up on the field, regardless of the outcome, and would instead talk later. So please @patsarticlemustpost, provide a supportable example.

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    He/she won’t. In fact, in that game, before it was played to downplay fanfare, win or lose, both BB and McD agreed to talk after the game instead of

    Remember when BB tried to get Mangini in 2006 in Foxborough? He was literally blocked by the media so he couldn’t even reach Manboobs. So, I think after that, he didn’t want to deal with the selfish media putting themselves above the very people they get paid to cover.

  66. After Belichick got his butt handed to him? Yeah, happens to him all the time. As BB said, there’s not a lot of thin here. HCs talk after the game , instead of the big, meaningless camera moment. I can almost guarantee BB has the respect of every other HC in the league. Good friends with many of them. Talk all the time. Same with the Brady handshake thing haters keep harping on. Brady is friends with most veteran QBs around the league, and revered by the young ones. Ask Mahomes. Wrong again.

  67. TimTebowGodOfFootballKarma says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:50 pm
    I’m glad Belicheat was gracious ONCE when he lost to Denver but you can search up countless times he was a giant sore loser and snubbed everyone after he got his butt handed to him. To portray the guy as anything but a sour faced grouch following defeat is misleading. Plenty of other coaches have a good reputation for accepting defeat graciously. Not Belicheat. If he went to talk to the Denver coach, he probably snuck a camera crew in the back door to look for play sheets.

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    Ha! At it again. Must be a cold rainy day.

  68. Ostrich – I am on your side. I am responding to another commentator Johnny who said such a thing. I am still waiting for that guy to give examples.

  69. firedog784 says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:21 pm
    I don’t have a dog in this fight regarding the Belichick/Shula conversation but the facts speak for themselves. Though Shula coached for 33 years (head coach) and right now is the all time leader, his playoff record is less than impressive. For someone that had Unitas, Griese and Marino he really didn’t win or do all that well in post season games. His overall playoff record is 19-17 which includes going 2-4 in the Super Bowl. And in 14 of those 33 seasons his teams didn’t even make the playoffs.

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    Exactly. Can you imagine if Belichick would have coached my Dolphins during the Marino years? How many SBs would we have had?

    Shula squandered Dan Marino

  70. Man, it must be really lonely up on that wall, defending against people who think BB and TB12 are pretty good – buck up there sport, at some point TB12 and BB will retire and you’re squad will have a 1/32 chance of getting to a SB again.

    In your mind, apparently, there’s no such thing as a comeback in sports – because the games over when you say it should have been? Too bad you have that view on sports, because you’ve been missing a ton of great games.
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    I think BB is an exceptional coach. Clearly one of the best to ever coach, but I don’t like some of his shady tactics and the way he treats players. Brady is a great QB, but not in my top 5, and that’s my opinion. But do I think NE with Tom Brady, has the best offensively philosophy and execution in NFL history. I would take that offensive style over any I’ve ever seen. You don’t need a homerun on every play, but you also don’t need a top tier QB to run it successfully. And my knock against Brady, while great, is that he gets too much credit for NE wins.
    Yeah, it is pretty lonely because most people don’t think for themselves. I don’t let the media or sports announcers tell who is best. I use my own assessments and judgment.
    The Ravens are my team and I am proud of our 2 SBs on 23 years, but I never bought into the Ravens SB hype this year. KC kicked our butt twice and I knew they would peak at the right time. How did everyone forget about them? I sure didn’t! I always have an unbiased, no matter if its my team or not. You are the type of parent, that says Johnny didn’t do it when the school calls. I’m the type that gets all of the info first. You are fan the who immediately boos when a bad call goes against your team. I’m like, no, we screwed up. You were delusional about TB12 all year and even after another debacle against Tennessee, yet you want him back next year. Sad, just sad.

  71. Wrong again. I clearly stated after the Cincy sideline taping scandal that I didn’t think anything was there. But the NFL put way more into that investigation than blue tooth guy. Ah, try again.
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    I did not bring up Cincy. I specifically brought up bluetooth guy. Way to pivot on that response. Has the NFL put any investigation into bluetooth guy? They put quite a bit into the Cincy film. Again, if it were the Pats there would have been a continuous NFL investigation while crybabies like you would go berserk. It’s just very odd that a Ravens team already busted for cheating with two defensive players receiving communication from the sideline do not get any attention from the NFL. Why is this? You should not try at all because you are getting chewed up by everybody on this site.

  72. tedmurph says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    Talk about exposing one’s self and an agenda. A supposed fan of another team can almost instantly quote the Boston Herald. That’s ok, because Gronk wasn’t even on the team when he made that quote. That was this year. The standards in NE are so high, it’s never good enough. Like Brady saying he wants to be perfect. How can I be better. Winning Championships is fun. Going to 9 SBowls is fun. Certainly made Gronk and Brady a lot of extra money. The 1 year dynasties think they have all the fun. Until it’s over. People can bring their agendas and grind their axes all they want. Fact is, the Pats are the greatest sports franchise of the century, and the greatest of the SBowl era, at a minimum. Case Closed.
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    Ha-ha, talk about delusional. I give you straight facts, prove you were wrong and you change the narrative, and get nothing but support from the NE faithful. Boy it’s gonna be great bashing you guys for years to come. Keep bringing up those old titles because that will be all you have.

  73. “Landry was the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys for many years and he believed in preparation and making sure your players were ready to go on Sunday afternoons. ”

    He was truly unique in that fashion from all the other top NFL coaches who didn’t believe in preparation and simply just winged it.

  74. 8oneanddones says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:46 am
    That’s interesting. Remember the game? New England laid an enormous egg. The Champ Baily/Ben Watson play, the special teams fumbles by Troy Brown and Ellis Hobbs, Brady was awful in his first playoff loss. I recall Belichick slammed his clipboard down hard after Troy Brown’s dagger fumble.
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    The REASON Belichick slammed his clipboard down after the play? Ref’s not calling a personal foul for fair catch interference. Brown fumbled the catch, but then he got hit by defenders before the ball hit the ground. On a fair catch, you can’t hit the return man unless the ball hits ground…

  75. Why do we want to think of someone as just one thing. Either “all class” or “a cheater.” Human beings are complicated and our qualities often seem contradictory. It’s true of BB–as it is of Kobe.

  76. davew128 says:
    January 28, 2020 at 1:39 pm
    8oneanddones says:
    January 28, 2020 at 9:46 am
    That’s interesting. Remember the game? New England laid an enormous egg. The Champ Baily/Ben Watson play, the special teams fumbles by Troy Brown and Ellis Hobbs, Brady was awful in his first playoff loss. I recall Belichick slammed his clipboard down hard after Troy Brown’s dagger fumble.
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    The REASON Belichick slammed his clipboard down after the play? Ref’s not calling a personal foul for fair catch interference. Brown fumbled the catch, but then he got hit by defenders before the ball hit the ground. On a fair catch, you can’t hit the return man unless the ball hits ground…

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    Like I siad, the cheating by Goodell had been going on for years. That was a clear first example of it happening, where NE was never going to win that game in Denver. Goodell made sure of it.

    3 SBs in 4 years was enough. That’s how good this run has been by NE. It all makes sense when Tagliabgue was asked to leave and why a NY Jets fan and former employee was hired by the Jets owner.

  77. nite2al says:
    January 28, 2020 at 1:35 pm
    tedmurph says:
    January 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    Talk about exposing one’s self and an agenda. A supposed fan of another team can almost instantly quote the Boston Herald. That’s ok, because Gronk wasn’t even on the team when he made that quote. That was this year. The standards in NE are so high, it’s never good enough. Like Brady saying he wants to be perfect. How can I be better. Winning Championships is fun. Going to 9 SBowls is fun. Certainly made Gronk and Brady a lot of extra money. The 1 year dynasties think they have all the fun. Until it’s over. People can bring their agendas and grind their axes all they want. Fact is, the Pats are the greatest sports franchise of the century, and the greatest of the SBowl era, at a minimum. Case Closed.
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    Ha-ha, talk about delusional. I give you straight facts, prove you were wrong and you change the narrative, and get nothing but support from the NE faithful. Boy it’s gonna be great bashing you guys for years to come. Keep bringing up those old titles because that will be all you have.

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    Go look at my comments, Einstein. Like I said, just because Gronk is happy the pressure is off, he also REALLY loves his SB rings and overall experience in NE under BB. It can be both, not just one or the other like small minded black and white thinkers think.

    But, your jealousy is delicious even coming from a Millennial like yourself.

  78. You were delusional about TB12 all year and even after another debacle against Tennessee, yet you want him back next year. Sad, just sad.

    And you are still wrong about that too. EVERYONE said the same thing all year the receivers are not getting any separation other than JE.

    And guess what, we saw the EXACT same thing in the Ravens Titians game. And they said the exact same thing about Lamar “His receivers are not getting any separation so Lamar either has to throw it away or run.
    So Lamar was 31/59 barley above 50 % with a qb rating of 63.2 (qb rating is an overrated stat in my opinion ) But it wasn’t because he sucks or doesn’t have the skills, it was because he had NO ONE to throw to. Exactly what they said about Brady all year.
    So don’t call yourself “unbiased” when you cant see what everyone else clearly could, just like what happened to Lamar in the game VS the Titians

  79. Fact: Gronk was not on the team when he described the Pats high standards and goals.
    Fact: Posters could not name one Pats player that said he’d trade his rings for more money and more fun. Nobody. Refuted erroneous facts.
    Fact: Ravens haven’t won a playoff game in 5 yrs. Now their gimmick offense is on tape. Buh- Bye.
    We shall see who bashes whom in the coming years.

  80. Boy it’s gonna be great bashing you guys for years to come. Keep bringing up those old titles because that will be all you have.
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    Right there just show everybody how sad your life is. You need the Pats to be bad or not up to their standard to give your life meaning. Can anyone be more jealous of an NFL franchise?

  81. but you also don’t need a top tier QB to run it successfully. And my knock against Brady, while great, is that he gets too much credit for NE wins.

    Then why hasn’t it worked anywhere else?
    Let me stop you before you go to “Bill Belichick”
    Bill has stated time and time again , as recently as this past offseason “I have NOTHING to do with the offence”, “ Josh and Tom install the game plan”
    So if you don’t need a “top tier QB” why did the same offence fail in Denver and St Louis when josh was the head coach in Denver then O coordinator in St Louis?
    We know it was the same offence because Danny Amandola said “it’s the same thing we ran in St louis just some of the terminology is different.
    Why doesn’t Bill Obrian run it in Houston? He know the offence, he has a better than average QB and good WR?
    Why didn’t it work for Charlie Wiese when he left NE?

    And if it doesn’t take a top tier QB then you wont be able to “bash you guys for years to come”. Because according to you “it doesn’t take a top tier QB to run it”
    Oh and those titles you refer to “ Keep bringing up those old titles because that will be all you have.” Are not that old the last one is less than a year old….

    oh and it would be fun to hear your top 5 QBS

  82. Brady is a great QB, but not in my top 5, and that’s my opinion. But do I think NE with Tom Brady, has the best offensively philosophy and execution in NFL history. I would take that offensive style over any I’ve ever seen. You don’t need a homerun on every play, but you also don’t need a top tier QB to run it successfully. And my knock against Brady, while great, is that he gets too much credit for NE wins.
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    If its a great style, and you don’t need a top tier QB to run it successfully, then why has NE held onto him for so long when cheaper/younger options have been available? Why haven’t other teams tried to replicate given NE’s success? Why, when finally given a legitimate deep threat with Moss, did NE change its offensive style and break all sorts of offensive records held at that time? Why has he had so much success since turning 40, including winning a league MVP at age 40? And finally, why is he universally regarded as the best QB to ever play the game by players, coaches, executives, peers, media, etc etc.

    I already know the answer to all those questions but thanks anyway for the great insight.

  83. Great coaches like Belichek, Landry, Shula, Lombardi don’t come along very often! Anytime an up and coming coach can meet with a legend would be stupid not to!

  84. nite2al says:
    January 28, 2020 at 1:26 pm
    … And my knock against Brady, while great, is that he gets too much credit for NE wins.
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    In case you hadn’t noticed, throughout NFL history every elite QB has gotten too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses. So, what’s your beef with that happening to Brady? That’s the media and talking heads, not Brady. He’s not taking all the credit for wins, he shares it, praises teammates both offense and defense. Praises opponents, too.

  85. My life sad? First, dude, don’t let sports run your entire life. I have a lot going on outside of it. If the Ravens win, great. If they lose, I still got 2 beautiful kids to kiss every morning. I’m good. Actually, that was first the Ravens’ playoff loss that did not bother me. I never bought into the hype and Lamar is a still young QB, plus winning MVP is the kiss of death, if you knew anything about NFL football, you would know that, you can even ask Tommy.
    Sad life? Nah, I’m having fun and it’s only gonna get better. Seeing another year of you NEdelusionals and sportscasters making excuses for Brady…gonna be priceless.

  86. In case you hadn’t noticed, throughout NFL history every elite QB has gotten too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses. So, what’s your beef with that happening to Brady? That’s the media and talking heads, not Brady. He’s not taking all the credit for wins, he shares it, praises teammates both offense and defense. Praises opponents, too.
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    Did you mince my words? I got no beef with Brady and I have said countless times that QBs get too much credit and blame on these boards. Brady is a great person, teammate and player, just overrated by the media and NE fanatics. I don’t like how Brady was called a game manager in his first 6 years, which he was. And somehow that narrative changed. He is still the same cat to me in a QB friendly offense. He doesn’t make throws like Rodgers or a tactician like Manning. Great player, but 5 yard passes to White out the backfield, just don’t do it for me.

  87. Example?

    When the Pats lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl, which derailed the undefeated season.
    He ran off the field without shaking hands.
    Tom Brady did not shake Eli Manning’s hand either.

  88. And finally, why is he universally regarded as the best QB to ever play the game by players, coaches, executives, peers, media, etc etc.
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    Ah, that’s easy. Because he has 6 rings, duh. But I think for myself and peel back the layers and see with my own eyes. Did Tom win all those rings all by himself? No. Did Rodgers have an average 36 points scored against him in playoffs losses with 3 OT losses? Yes. It’s a team sport, it matters what the players around you do as well. Tommy Terrific has had way more support than others.

  89. johnnycantread says:

    January 28, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    Example?

    When the Pats lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl, which derailed the undefeated season.
    He ran off the field without shaking hands.
    Tom Brady did not shake Eli Manning’s hand either.

    wrong!!!!

    They game ended BOTH teams and coaches came on the field and shook hands, then they took them all off the field put 2 seconds back on the clock because it should not have run off,

    then the game odically ended.

    so where they supposed to run out and shake hands all over again for YOUR benefit?

  90. Coming here every day to post on Pats threads IS sad.

    Brady/Manning and Couglin/Belichick(friends for 30 yrs) talked after both SBowls and are all good friends.

  91. I don’t like how Brady was called a game manager in his first 6 years, which he was. And somehow that narrative changed. He is still the same cat to me in a QB friendly offense. He doesn’t make throws like Rodgers or a tactician like Manning. Great player, but 5 yard passes to White out the backfield, just don’t do it for me.

    Christ!
    so when RAY LEWIS and ED REED both say “Playing a against Brady is just like Playing against Manning, they both beat you before the snap because of how smart they are” They don’t know what they are talking about?

    tell me a throw Manning can make that Brady cant.
    you cant because he can make all the throw. We say it the 2 times in his career when he had a real deep threat
    go back 2 years when he had Cooks, he was top 2 or 3 in completions 20 or more yards down field
    when he had Moss he broke every QB record at the time.

  92. Brady is a great person, teammate and player, just overrated by the media and NE fanatics.
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    Got it, but what about current and ex-players, coaches, executives, etc. who are on record saying Brady is the GOAT? No one gets the GOAT label more than Brady from his peers. Its not just the media and NE fans so let’s stop pretending its homerism when he is universally regarded as the GOAT. You mention Rodgers and Manning like some measuring sticks, yet come post season they folded more often than not. Being a successful QB takes the total package and Brady is the best there is as noted by a majority of those involved in the football world.

  93. From the NYTimes -Feb 6, 2008

    The only topic that Belichick expanded about, more or less, was his premature dash onto the field to shake the hand of Giants Coach Tom Coughlin. There was still one second remaining in the game, but Belichick, after shaking Coughlin’s hand, ran off and did not watch the final meaningless play.

    “On that last play, I wasn’t really sure about the time,” Belichick said. “I got over to the field and wanted to congratulate Tom. I’ve been in that position after games before. I wanted to get over there and congratulate him and congratulate him on the championship. They deserved it. There wasn’t much left at that point.”

  94. And guess what, we saw the EXACT same thing in the Ravens Titians game. And they said the exact same thing about Lamar “His receivers are not getting any separation so Lamar either has to throw it away or run.
    So Lamar was 31/59 barley above 50 % with a qb rating of 63.2 (qb rating is an overrated stat in my opinion ) But it wasn’t because he sucks or doesn’t have the skills, it was because he had NO ONE to throw to. Exactly what they said about Brady all year.
    So don’t call yourself “unbiased” when you cant see what everyone else clearly could, just like what happened to Lamar in the game VS the Titians
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    Huh? When did you hear me prop up Lamar? I said I never bought into the SB hype. So, how is that biased?
    My assessment of that game was pretty much the timing was off, maybe due to the layoff, and awful coaching by the Ravens’ staff. They did nothing to settle our young QB down. We played arrogant like we could turn it on at anytime and we were terrible at situational football, something the Patriots are very good at. I have no problems with our receivers, not great, but good enough most times. In that game, they dropped good passes or Lamar was just plain bad. Lamar deserved the MVP for a great year, but I think can of 5 QBs that I think are better. He benefits from a great o-line and teams are in a catch 22 of whether he will run or pass. Great runner, average passer, but I expect that to improve and we will kick more Patriot butt. But no bias here, I call it as I see it, always.

  95. Brady is a great person, teammate and player, just overrated by the media and NE fanatics

    yeah, its not just the “media and NE fanatics. its currant and former PLAYERS AND COACHES (Why did Lamar call him the GOAT?) JUST TO BE NICE?
    Its players in other sports.. its pretty much EVERYONE..
    kEVIN Durant when he was visiting the Celtics he was Nervous to meet BRADY “The Goat” his words

  96. My life sad? First, dude, don’t let sports run your entire life. I have a lot going on outside of it.
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    Clearly you show it by posting about the Pats 7 days a week for hours each day. That screams normal on so many levels. What would possess somebody to post about a team they do not like that much? If you believe that is not a sad life being lived then you are as delusional as the people you claim to be. Seems like my post triggered you a little bit. Envy of the Pats is not way to live through life.

  97. But no bias here, I call it as I see it, always.
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    Best sentence of the day. I would love to see what you see on a daily basis. Must be fascinating.

  98. patsarticlemustpost says:

    Clearly you show it by posting about the Pats 7 days a week for hours each day.

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    So do you, Bub.

  99. So do you, Bub.
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    I root for the Patriots. There is a big difference. You two hate the Pats but post about them nonstop. Why is this? Do I post about the Ravens on articles bout them all day everyday? Nope. Do I post about the team you root for? What team is that? Oh yeah, you will not say out of embarrassment.

  100. “Brady is a great person, teammate and player… And his farts smell like cotton candy.” — Every Patriot Homer Zombie

  101. Every Patriot Homer Zombie
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    So when there is an article related to the Pats you become one of the millions of Anti-Patriot Homer Zombies? You see a Pats article and you cannot control yourself – you need to post. That team your root for must be really really bad.

  102. “Did you mince my words? I got no beef with Brady and I have said countless times that QBs get too much credit and blame on these boards. Brady is a great person, teammate and player, just overrated by the media and NE fanatics. I don’t like how Brady was called a game manager in his first 6 years, which he was. And somehow that narrative changed. He is still the same cat to me in a QB friendly offense. He doesn’t make throws like Rodgers or a tactician like Manning. Great player, but 5 yard passes to White out the backfield, just don’t do it for me.”

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    Do 9 trips to the super bowl and 6 championships do it for you? How about 17 division titles? 17 seasons with double-digit wins?

    Somehow things changed? The guy broke the all-time record for passing TDs in 2007. He put up better numbers than Manning had ever put up to that point. Hard to still (unfairly) call him a game manager after that. Brady led the league in TDs his second season as a starter. He was always a top 10 statistical QB, despite the game manager label early on. Now he has 3 NFL regular-season MVPs and countless statistically dominant seasons. Not to mention the most passing yards in a single game in Super Bowl history and the author of the greatest comeback in playoff history. What game manager pulls a team back from down 28-3 in the Super Bowl?

    He’s also thrown for more yards and TDs than any player in history (regular season and post-season. 85,959 yards. 614 TDs. That’s an awful lot of 5 yard passes to White out of the backfield. Maybe someone else should try it.

  103. yeah, its not just the “media and NE fanatics. its currant and former PLAYERS AND COACHES (Why did Lamar call him the GOAT?) JUST TO BE NICE?
    Its players in other sports.. its pretty much EVERYONE..
    kEVIN Durant when he was visiting the Celtics he was Nervous to meet BRADY “The Goat” his words
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    I don’t give a crap who calls Brady the GOAT. Eeryone once once agreed the world was flat. How’d that work out? Goat doesn’t mean the best in my book, so we can start there. Brady didn’t win those titles all by himself, thats my point. He had all kinds of breaks and help. And now, it’s like blasphemy to speak bad about his terrible play. He’s not a messiah. He didn’t perform a miracle in the playoffs like you homers believed he would.
    I’m not a homer dude. I say negative and positive about the Patriots in my posts, but negative is so much better and most importantly, it’s what I believe as true. When my team sucks, I call them out. I think for myself and I do not to placate to anyone.

  104. yHe’s also thrown for more yards and TDs than any player in history (regular season and post-season. 85,959 yards. 614 TDs. That’s an awful lot of 5 yard passes to White out of the backfield. Maybe someone else should try it.
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    Really dude? Is that the best you got? You play 20 years, I would hope so.

  105. Clearly you show it by posting about the Pats 7 days a week for hours each day. That screams normal on so many levels. What would possess somebody to post about a team they do not like that much? If you believe that is not a sad life being lived then you are as delusional as the people you claim to be. Seems like my post triggered you a little bit. Envy of the Pats is not way to live through life.
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    Haha, listen to yourself. Obviously, you look for my posts 7 days a week.

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