Chiefs should break the bank for Patrick Mahomes ASAP

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The moment the 2019 regular season ended, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes became eligible for a second contract. The longer the team waits to give him one, the more expensive it will get.

Chiefs chairman and CEO Clark Hunt suggested last week that the team could wait until after the 2020 season to extend Mahomes. That would give the Chiefs another ultra-affordable year with the best player on the planet, at a salary of $735,000, a roster bonus of $1.969 million, and a cap number of $5.226 million. In 2021, the option year under Mahomes’ first-round deal, he’d be entitled to an amount equal to the 2020 transition tag for quarterbacks, which should be in the range of $24 million.

Eventually, he’ll break the bank. The question becomes how much he’ll get, how much will be guaranteed for injury at signing, and how much will be fully guaranteed at signing.

On Monday, Mahomes downplayed the situation, specifically acknowledging that giving the Chiefs the ability to put a team around him will be a factor in the negotiations. Whether that puts him closer to Tom “Always Took Less” Brady than Peyton “Eff You, Pay Me” Manning remains to be seen. Still, it’s more than fair for Mahomes to take the position that it’s his job to play football, and that it’s the team’s job to figure out how to manage the salary cap.

The new-money analysis inevitably becomes a factor here, especially if the Chiefs tear up the current deal in a season that pays out only $2.7 million in 2020 and $24 million in 2021. To get Mahomes to a new-money average of $40 million (the number many have pegged as his value) on a five-year extension, the Chiefs would have to sign Mahomes to a seven-year deal worth $226.7 million. At signing, that’s an average of $32.38 million.

And if Mahomes insists on $40 million per year at signing on a five-year extension, that’s a seven-year, $280 million deal. And that’s equates to a new-money average of $50.66 million.

Getting through the fourth year of the deal narrows the gap between value at signing and new-money average, which could be one of the reasons for the potential delay. Mahomes, who makes plenty in endorsements and surely has insurance, has said nothing to suggest he’ll insist on a deal now.

There’s another factor to keep in mind here. Over the years, several players have tried to secure a term that guarantees a percentage of the cap, as the cap keeps going up. If Mahomes insists on that, Mahomes should be able to get it.

And he should insist on it. With the cap always climbing, contracts quickly become obsolete. Mahomes is worth 20 percent of the total cap in any given year, and the Chiefs should be happy to pay that to him.

It’s sort of like the justification for paying a lot in taxes. It’s the price of making a lot of money, which is a good thing. Having Mahomes is a very good thing, and the Chiefs should realize sooner than later that they need to treat him differently than they would treat any other player they ever have, will, or would employ.

72 responses to “Chiefs should break the bank for Patrick Mahomes ASAP

  1. Had this conversation before the Super Bowl, but If I’m allowed to pick ANYONE in the league for my team, Mahomes is the guy. Young, dynamic, a leader, mobile, rocket arm…. Everything you’d want as the face of your franchise. Pay him now whatever it takes. KC has their Super Bowl and the price goes up by the day. He’s already earned whatever he wants. He’s good for KC, and good for the league.

  2. I hope Mahomes breaks the trend and takes a team friendly-ish deal so the Chiefs can put a good team around him. He can definitely become the GOAT (yes, better than Brady) if he gives his team a chance. Seems the GM is doing a decent job of surrounding Mahome with playmakers.

  3. ask Mike how do they figure out the CAP if they follow this suggestion===
    i forgot-Practice Squad Yesssssssssssss

  4. Actually they shouldn’t hid sb stats are a indicator of a middling game manager and stats don’t lie

  5. Jimmyjohns1…1 down, 6 to go to top the GOAT. As soon as PM takes a max contract, he’ll give the Chiefs the “Joe Flacco flat tire” for at least 5 years. Brady took a roughly 100 million discount through the years. If PM isnt willing to do that…and the number will be much bigger at current rates…he wont even sniff TB12’s record. In the near term, kelce, dwilliams, and cjones are looking to get paid…tyreek hill is on deck. Good luck with the math…

  6. It is easy to say “break the bank” or “pay whatever he wants” but remember that every dollar you pay him is basically less you can pay for those around him. Every QB has to have talent around him. Ask Brady, Rodgers, etc. The salary cap, remember that, will determine what he and those around him can get. Is it worth it to pay him but lose Hill, Clark, Jones, or another core player?

  7. Patrick seems more motivated by winning than he is by money. That’s not to say he’s going to take a $20m per year contract (and he’d be hated by other QBs if he did), but I doubt he wants to ‘reset the market’ at the expense of his teammates.

    Then again, maybe he just tells his agent to take care of all that & he ends up at $40m per year.

  8. It makes a lot of sense to sign him sooner than later because as time goes by these deals always get cheaper for the team in relation to what other teams are going to be paying. When Russell Wilson got his first non-rookie deal some people thought the Seahawks had wildly overpaid at around $18.5 million but by the time that deal was over he was a bargain. As long as the cap keeps rising there is incentive to ink top guys as quickly as possible so you get to those “bargain” years faster.

  9. Mahomes wants to win and he knows it will be more difficult if he asks for the house. Than man will be swimming in endorsements and make gobs of money.

  10. Brady was unique in that he stayed hungry after every championship. That’s the kind of greed you want. After a player gets over that hump and wins a championship, the release is so profound that it’s hard to rebuild and bottle up the tension for another run. And you need every ounce to slay a gauntlet of opponents.

    Brady knew he needed to find a way to recreate a chip for his shoulder and he got creative doing just that– to the point where the rest of us scoffed at his outlook.

  11. I agree, they should break the bank for Mahomes, so like Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, they get paid but can’t afford to put anyone else around them and then their competetive, but not good enough to get over the hump.

  12. I thought that players in the first 4 years of their rookie contracts were bound to the terms until the 4th year is completed? Like yes, they can sign a new deal after the 3rd year, but the 4th year of the contract remains intact and the new contract takes effect after the 4th year of the rookie deal…

  13. You know I’d be in favor of teams allowed one player that didnt count against the cap. The Chief’s situation illustrates this need perfectly.

  14. They should certainly enter negotiations with him. But, if they pay him too much, they won’t be able to build a good team around him for the entire deal. He can still get a ton of money, and leave a little bit on the table for the rest of the team. We will see what Mahomes values by what he pushes for. They may end up paying whatever he wants. But, if he is willing to take $30M per season instead of $40M per season, that leaves quite a bit to help build the rest of the team. And even $30M per season would still leave him set for life, and then some.

  15. I wouldn’t sign him to a new deal until I knew what the payroll, cap, & contract with NFLPA will be going forward. He is going to be expensive, regardless.

  16. Actually RG, Williams and Hill recently got new deals. So they are set for now. Kelce also under contract for at least 2 more years but will get a raise soon enough. They will trade, cut or restructure Watkins freeing up a good chunk of money. They will also be cutting others like Colquit, Sorenson and more. Options are there for Jones. Franchise, franchise and trade (like Ford) or lock him up. Good news for us is that guys will want to play with a legend in the making (Mahomes) and a HOF players coach like Reid who just got the BIG monkey off his back. Chiefs are not nearly as bad off as haters are making them out to be with the cap. Lets also not forget that the cap will continue to go up. Mahomes has had some amazing games with a limited arsenal if you actually paid attention. PM is the force multiplier and the Chiefs will be is fantastic shape as long as he is here. Pay him whatever he wants and enjoy the beginning of a frequent contender and possible dynasty.

  17. NO WAY!! The Chiefs aren’t even going back to another Superbowl anytime soon so they should be prudent and offer him $35 Million a year TOPS. Enjoy it while you can Chiefs fans your celebration is over sooner rather than later

  18. Sign him as long as possible.

    It becomes team friendly with time.

    It is the only thing to do.

    It is not like he won’t pay for himself and he will get players to want to go to KC

  19. As I watched Brady struggle with his mediocre receiving corps this year, I would wonder what it would look like if he had Mahomes’ weapons. If the Chiefs “ break the bank” we might see those great weapons getting too expensive. Ask The Raven or Seahawks about breaking the bank. Neither has been to a conference title game since doing that for Flacco or Wilson.

  20. Love the show, but you’re missing the important part. You need two sides that want a deal done now. With the new CBA on the horizon, I’m advising my clients to wait until the dust settles on that before signing a new deal. Too many variables that could swing his way.

  21. Unpopular opinion…you shouldn’t break the bank for anyone, even a franchise QB.
    How many times do we have to see teams rise with QBs under rookie deals and then fall when said QB breaks the bank for 20-30+ million? Then Tom Brady and his team friendly deal and the next team with a QB under a rookie deal are dueling it out, just for that team to fall down when they pay their QB.

    Look, you can pay a QB with a huge salary cap hit and still be a decent team, ie going from the Super Bowl to losing earlier in the playoffs…that’s still a fall.

    You might have a “franchise” QB but what’s the point if his entire, well paid career with you is losing in the division round, losing in the conference championship round, being 8-8 or 9-7 and missing the playoffs, losing in the conference round, maybe losing in the Super Bowl, missing the playoffs with a decent record, etc. etc.

    The goal is to try and win championships, not have a high floor where you’re not going to go 3-13 or something like that.

    Unfortunately, as good as Mahomes is as a QB, and a person/leader, the same thing will probably happen to the Chiefs. They aren’t going to be title winners. Sure, they aren’t going to go 2-14, 4-12 with him around, but if he’s making 40, 45 mil (like some people predict) there just isn’t enough money around to build a Super Bowl winning team.

  22. The Eagles experience showcases the problem with this approach. If Mahomes suffers an injury, his price tag goes down. And of course, KC’s odds of snagging a second ring skyrocketed next year if the team continues to have the cap space to surround him with elite skill players

  23. He doesn’t seem like a Break The Bank guy. I think he will do what’s best to try to keep the team intact. You can see this kid is driven to be one of the best ever.

  24. Breaking the bank on one player has NEVER paid off in the NFL you are better with a group of B+ players than 1 A+ and a bunch of C- players, Mahomes is good , but add him to the list , of Rogers,Brees , Russell etc who don’t make it back.

  25. It was ONE SB win. It wasn’t 5 or 6–it was ONE–and even though I am an unabashed Eagles fan, we all saw what happens on any given Sunday. Nick Foles played out of his mind for 2 games and got a huge contract from the Jags–but he didn’t look nearly as good when Jax signed him to a huge deal.

  26. He should call Aaron Rodgers a call, that’s what happens when you’re the best QB in the league but take up all of the cap room

    Similar stuff happens when you take a stud player at $10,000+ in DFS, the rest of your roster does squat

  27. I wish they would boost the cap in a huge way. I get that these players are getting paid more and more, and it makes sense, but they are paying players at increasing rates at a faster pace than what the cap is moving. It’s like most Americans now-a-days maxing out their credit cards and living in debt…they crush their chances at keeping current, or signing new, players that can contribute to making a team great. Find out the going rate of all NFL positions and re-think the cap based on that. Not just boost it by a certain amount each year.

  28. On the percentage of cap, hasn’t the cap risen about 6% per year? Don’t most of these big $ contracts have annual salary increases greater than that already? Bonuses are what drive the annual cap hit to a great degree

  29. The coaching and salary cap management of the Patriots, along with TBs abilities in the clutch and taking less money are all factors in maintaining a 20 year run. I do not see the coaching at KC to be close the level of NE. NE takes a lot of “B” players and coaches them into being highly effective in the roles of their offensive and defensive schemes. I don’t see Andy Reid coaching 20 more years and it will be interesting to see how hamstrung the PM contract makes the KC salary cap in the next 5-10 years. Put simply, this 0 year run by NE, IMO, will never be equaled again.

  30. firstdownbrowns says:
    February 4, 2020 at 9:01 pm
    they all say its a team sport. then why pay 1 player 30-40% of the cap ?

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    Ego is a nasty thing. It can come fast and hard. Since Mahomes jusy won a SB, he has all the leverage.

  31. RamblinRandall says:
    February 4, 2020 at 8:48 pm
    Actually they shouldn’t hid sb stats are a indicator of a middling game manager and stats don’t lie
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    You are right, stats don’t lie. So how about 50 TDs and 5000 yds last year and a league MVP. Then missed two games this year and was still Top 10 in passing and top 10 in TDs.
    Oh…and then there is that pesky little Superbowl win and the SB MVP with clutch throws to mount a 21 pt comeback in the last 12 minutes.

    Ask any team in the league if they will take that kind of middling game manager.

  32. Not a single poster would take a cut in pay to help their employer get more talent.

    But let’s look at the numbers. Say it’s $40M/yr. How much of a cut should he take?

    $10M down to $30M? That would pay for half of Frank Clark’s salary.

    Half or $20M? That’s about a Sammy Watkins or a Tyreek Hill and change.

    Sure it’s a lot of money and a lot of cap but it’s not like taking a cut necessarily allows them to keep all their top players while not taking a cut means they lose them all.

    It is what it is.

  33. He’ll get paid a ton of well deserved money. Enjoy the one year dynasty Chiefs fans.

  34. If I’m them I make him play out his rookie deal plus the 5th year option. Keep the team around him. Then tag him for a year or two and then let him walk once he’s no longer in his prime. (Similar to how Cousins was treated by Washington)

    It’s a business and I’d start treating QBs much more like RBs these days. With rules designed to help the QB succeed. You’ve either gotten a couple SBs out of him by the tag years or you are in position to tag and trade (or worst case, draft a young QB star top ten).

    Probably an unpopular opinion but how many QBs actually have 10-15 years of really good football in them? Use em up and don’t handicap your cap for a single QB. (Packers, Lions, Falcons, etc.)

  35. How much money could Mahomes make outside of football if the Chiefs become a dynasty? Would it be enough to offset the money he would need to sacrifice so that the Chiefs can become a dynasty? I think Mahomes can put himself in a position to make more money off the field than on the field. But he needs multiple rings to do it. That’s hard to do when your QB consumes too much of the teams cap space.

  36. He already has a bad knee, and this being a capitalist country which seems most of posters here are more socialist (hopefully they are equally giving up their pay for other to get paid more, but guessing most are hypocrites) Mahomes should not step on the field again until Clark pays him his market value which should be about $40 to $50 million. It is not Mahomes problem to build the team it is Andy’s. Mahomes should have plenty of sponsorship money to hold out and hit free agency where he could easily push $50 million plus. He takes a cut-rate deal blows out his already weaken knee ala Teddy Bridgewater and loses his ability to make the money he deserves at this moment, to much risk in the NFL to ever take a cut-rate deal for his first real contract.

  37. There’s an assumption that players in their prime taking less money to help with the overall quality of the roster that the team will make good decisions and will actually spend all the available cap dollars. Teams could do it in good faith and fail and they could do it in bad faith and fail. Either way, the player who signs for less than market takes the risk that his decision will yield additional Super Bowls, nobody else takes the financial risk.

    If I was ever in that position, I’d always take as much money as the market provides. Always.

  38. I wouldn’t be in a big rush to shower money on a guy who has a merry-go-round kneecap, had as many picks as TDs in the SB, and had 2 more TDs than 42 year old Tom Brady and his semi-pro receiver corps on the season. I would at least pause and wonder how good he would be if he no longer had maybe the best weapons in the game to enhance his “best player on the planet” status.

  39. No way. Stay with the low money and franchise tags, try to win a couple more Super Bowls in this window and see what his knees and ankles look like after all that running.

  40. This Dynasty talk with the chiefs is ridiculous. San Francisco should have won game with 10 point lead and 7:13 to go. Lets see them win a second SB before you crown them a dynasty. But it will take 3 titles to be called a dynasty. I do not think they even make it out of AFC in 2020. They overcame 3 double digit deficits because their opponents choked. That will not happen again. Texans and Titans both should have beaten them. Like I said I think chiefs win west next year and that’s it. Won’t make it out of AFC. Comparing them to new England is ridiculous and disrespectful or REAL Dynasty. Same with comparing Mahomes to GOAT. FOOLISH. Mahomes won SB second year starting. Brady won SB first year starting. All hype at this point.

  41. gimmeabruschi says:
    February 5, 2020 at 10:31 am
    I wouldn’t be in a big rush to shower money on a guy who has a merry-go-round kneecap, had as many picks as TDs in the SB, and had 2 more TDs than 42 year old Tom Brady and his semi-pro receiver corps on the season. I would at least pause and wonder how good he would be if he no longer had maybe the best weapons in the game to enhance his “best player on the planet” status.
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    Are you telling me the Patriots wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to sign the guy if they had a chance?

  42. brandt3463 says:
    February 4, 2020 at 10:43 pm
    Actually RG, Williams and Hill recently got new deals. So they are set for now. Kelce also under contract for at least 2 more years but will get a raise soon enough. They will trade, cut or restructure Watkins freeing up a good chunk of money. They will also be cutting others like Colquit, Sorenson and more. Options are there for Jones. Franchise, franchise and trade (like Ford) or lock him up. Good news for us is that guys will want to play with a legend in the making (Mahomes) and a HOF players coach like Reid who just got the BIG monkey off his back. Chiefs are not nearly as bad off as haters are making them out to be with the cap. Lets also not forget that the cap will continue to go up. Mahomes has had some amazing games with a limited arsenal if you actually paid attention. PM is the force multiplier and the Chiefs will be is fantastic shape as long as he is here. Pay him whatever he wants and enjoy the beginning of a frequent contender and possible dynasty.

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    So, they will cut a majority of their middle guys and bank on hitting every draft pick. Congrats on being the new LA Rams!

  43. Part of the fun for me about the NFL is they have a hard salary cap so how a team spend money is part of their success or failure. As a fan of the game, not specific team, I just sit back and watch each team’s development in how they manage their money.

  44. KC is about to be hit by a ton of large contracts.

    Mathieu – Goes from $6 mil in 2019 to $16.33 mil
    Fisher – $7 mil to $15 mil
    Schwartz – $6.5 mil to $11 mil
    Hill – $2.2 to $17.5 mil
    Hitchens – $800k to $7.8 mil
    Clark – $800k to $17 mil

    Yeah, good luck signing Mahomes to a $40 mil contract (if you think he’s signing for less, you’re a fool). Your grunt guys that do the work will be gone. KC overpaid a lot of guys already and will be in MORE trouble when Mahomes is the highest paid player.

    Granted, Mahomes is a beast and will keep KC in the playoff hunt, but this team will be like Green Bay and LA Rams.

  45. smarterthanyouoryours says:
    February 5, 2020 at 8:58 am
    Not a single poster would take a cut in pay to help their employer get more talent.

    But let’s look at the numbers. Say it’s $40M/yr. How much of a cut should he take?

    $10M down to $30M? That would pay for half of Frank Clark’s salary.

    Half or $20M? That’s about a Sammy Watkins or a Tyreek Hill and change.

    Sure it’s a lot of money and a lot of cap but it’s not like taking a cut necessarily allows them to keep all their top players while not taking a cut means they lose them all.

    It is what it is.

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    Ok, you are half right. Using realistic non pro sports numbers- no, most people wouldn’t take 100k instead of 200k working a non professional sports job in order to get better employees around them.

    The big difference is that going from 100-200k makes a HUGE difference in your life- what you can buy, how much you save, the life you can give your children, how easily and at what age you can retire- the list is endless.

    However, taking 20m instead of 40m makes no difference in your actual life. What you can do with 40m, you can do with 20m.

    So yes, if i am working at my desk in the private sector and I have the option of making 40m and having my work day be harder and more stressful, and less enjoyable, or making 20 million and have less on my plate and enjoying my job more, I’m taking 20.

  46. smarterthanyouoryours says:
    February 5, 2020 at 8:58 am
    Not a single poster would take a cut in pay to help their employer get more talent.

    But let’s look at the numbers. Say it’s $40M/yr. How much of a cut should he take?

    $10M down to $30M? That would pay for half of Frank Clark’s salary.

    Half or $20M? That’s about a Sammy Watkins or a Tyreek Hill and change.

    Sure it’s a lot of money and a lot of cap but it’s not like taking a cut necessarily allows them to keep all their top players while not taking a cut means they lose them all.

    It is what it is.

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    I for one would take $25mil per year with a fully guaranteed contract over the $40mil/ per.

    The savings isn’t going to go to one guy. It’s to keep the middle tier guys. You know, the ones that help put you over the top.

  47. Without maxing himself out to the detriment of the overall structure, perhaps Manning would have won more than one with the Colts in 14 years. Brady always made good money (big big bonuses), he just didn’t make “Top” money. And the teams paying “Top” money to QBs don’t win. Pay Dak Prescott $35 mil and you guarantee the Cowboys are .500 for the foreseeable future. What’s the point?

  48. Very, very naïve to think the other 52 players on the roster are “details.” Ultimate team game.

  49. They should just like the Ravens did with Flacco. BTW,Jimmy G validated that #5 was Definitely elite.

  50. A bunch of pointless noise. Whatever he signs for, and I mean WHATEVER, Chiefs fans will celebrate and be happy their guy is inked. As they should.

  51. The Chiefs don’t have the cap room($14.6mil) now to pay Mahomes, not without getting rid of at least a few of their top players or a lot of the bottom ones!

    Salary cap = the great equalizer!

    And to those that think the cap will just continue to go up 7-10% a year let me clue you in, that’s totally unsustainable!

  52. Mick Lovin’ says:
    February 4, 2020 at 9:19 pm
    5 years 35 million, not a penny more, needs to prove himself
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    Yeah, no kidding. I mean at least win an MVP, or SB, or SuperBowl MVP. I mean come on, prove yourself already. /s

  53. imodan says:
    February 5, 2020 at 1:00 pm
    P.M.would be nuts to sign early. Does anyone think Jerry Jones won’t grossly overpay Dak?

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    He doesn’t need Dak to be resigned to break the bank. That was done by Goff and Wentz.

  54. Not a single poster would take a cut in pay to help their employer get more talent.

    But let’s look at the numbers. Say it’s $40M/yr. How much of a cut should he take?
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    Actually Mahomes isn’t taking a cut in pay. He’s making less than 10 million a year. If he hypothetically took 25 million he’d be quadrupling his pay.

    The problem with the NFL today is the drastic difference between a QB on his rookie deal and what he gets when that deal expires. Guys are jumping from 5-10 million to 30-35 in one season. Yet the cap only goes up a few million dollars per year. Throw in the what the salaries for the other high dollar positions (LT, DE, CB) and two or three big dollar teams can totally screw up a chance to put quality players (and depth) on both sides of the ball.

    Removing the QB salary from the cap figure, or limiting to a certain percentage of the cap would be a reasonable solution, but I can’t ever see that happening.

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