Poll shows strong fan opposition to 17-game season

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With the NFL determined to expand the regular season to 17 games — and with the NFL Players Association negotiating with the league based on a 17-game season — it’s fair to conclude that it’s coming. But do football fans want it?

A Twitter poll posted on the PFT account generated more than 56,000 votes, with more than 62 percent of those who responded saying they don’t want a 17-game season. That left fewer than 38 percent in favor of the expansion of the season from 16 games to 17.

It’s a somewhat surprising outcome, especially given the gradual sense of inevitability that has emerged in recent months regarding the move to 17. But here’s what also shouldn’t be surprising: The NFL won’t care about this or any other poll. The league has decided to find another place in the pizza to cram cheese, the league will be putting it on the menu, and we will be eating it.

Eventually, 17 will become 18. Again, it feels inevitable — and the ongoing expansion of legalized gambling makes it even more likely. There’s too much money to be made by having another two weekends of games on which to wager, regardless of concerns about player safety or fan opposition or anything else other than the basic exercise of capitalism.

95 responses to “Poll shows strong fan opposition to 17-game season

  1. I don’t want 17 games.

    I want 2 extra playoff teams which is part of the proposal even less…

  2. Has anyone considered that adding a game will now make all previous Single Season Records mean nothing? This move will completely mess with the history of the game.

  3. Slowly but surely they are destroying the greatest sport in the world. With legalized gambling there is a huge scandal on the horizon. Count on it.

  4. Now 18 weeks with 16 games is another thing. Give the teams a second bye week before their Thursday game. One more week of tv ad revenues and fan engagement. Players get more rest. Win-Win

  5. This is unscientific at best. Most football fans want more NFL. The easiest compromise is to allow a certain number of staters and second string to either play or sit out one game. Reduce the pre-season and either update or get rid of the, Pro Bowl.

  6. I don’t do twitter so my vote of yes doesn’t count?
    As for the history of the game, the NFL has been expanding since inception of the league. That’s what so hard about comparing Era’s of different players. The playoff records are another great example. 1951, 12 regular season games, 1 playoff game to decide the winner.

  7. Has anyone considered that adding a game will now make all previous Single Season Records mean nothing? This move will completely mess with the history of the game.

    You do realize they played 14 games from 1961 to 1977?

  8. Oh come on. Unless fans start boycotting full seasons and playoffs, their opinion doesn’t matter. They will watch whatever NFL product is in front of them.

  9. Fans may say they don’t want it….. But they’ll still watch every game if they add another week, and the NFL knows it

  10. “Has anyone considered that adding a game will now make all previous Single Season Records mean nothing? This move will completely mess with the history of the game.”

    We survived when it went from 14 games to 16.

  11. Just give an additional bye and team’s that play on Thursday have a bye week preceding the game.

  12. All of the polls on this issue do not ask the right question. Would you rather have 16 games and 4 preseason games or 17 games and 3 preseason games? That is the question. I don’t want 17 games. But take away a preseason game and I will consider 17.

  13. Ask if they prefer 17 regular season games with less pre season games, or 16 with current 4 pre season. See how that poll goes

  14. Just like Thursday night football, the fans claim to hate it but most still watch, will be the exact same if it is 17 or 18 or etc etc. The thing that keeps most fair-weather fans from watching is when there team is no longer in the playoff hunt. I am really surprised they haven’t figured more teams would keep more teams in it longer and keep viewership and attendance up towards the end of the season.

  15. cobrala2 says:

    “It’s a somewhat surprising outcome…”

    Do you even read the Comments?
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    He thinks Kaepernick and being against the Redskins name is popular.

  16. rjmjets says:
    February 7, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    Has anyone considered that adding a game will now make all previous Single Season Records mean nothing? This move will completely mess with the history of the game.

    You do realize they played 14 games from 1961 to 1977?
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    right and before that it was a 12 game schedule. Single season records have to be grouped by the era played, otherwise meaningless.

  17. I still like coach Fangio suggestion. No divisions. Every team in the AFC plays all of the other teams in the AFC (same goes for the NFC) then take the 1 game and have an AFC team play the closest NFC team. That would ensure that The best 6 teams from the AFC make the playoffs and the best 6 from the NFC make the playoffs. No more 8-8 or 9-7 teams winning their sorry divisions and end up hosting a 11-5 or 12-4 team on wildcard weekend.

  18. I’d be in favor of a 17 game season on one condition. Entirely eliminate the preseason. Otherwise, 16 is plenty.

  19. edrooneyjr says:
    February 7, 2020 at 5:50 pm
    Now 18 weeks with 16 games is another thing. Give the teams a second bye week before their Thursday game. One more week of tv ad revenues and fan engagement. Players get more rest. Win-Win

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    Well this certainly makes the most sense. The players can stop worrying about that short rest week, and the owners get an extra week of televised games. But I bet the players would still ask for more money to agree to this mutually beneficial proposal

  20. cobrala2 says:
    February 7, 2020 at 5:59 pm
    “It’s a somewhat surprising outcome…”
    Do you even read the Comments
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    Nah, they just delete them.

  21. The records don’t matter, nobody has these numbers tattooed on them. One thing the 17th game will do is ensure no even records, there will be winning teams and losing teams. The players will bite even if all they get is that extra game check, and that weed be taken off the banned substance list. They should put up a better fight though.

  22. If they do this then there will be the moaning of fans that there team played only 8 home games and the patriots got to play 9. Or there where be a correlation that majority of playoff teams played 9 home games. How will they determine the home and away games for each team with there being an odd number alternating years or something.

  23. Don’t see what’s surprising given every article you post about going to 17 games is full of negative comments not wanting it

  24. My opposition to it is that it only further waters down the regular season and makes it even more meaningless. Even more so if they go ahead with the plan to add to more teams to the playoffs in each conference.

  25. I would rather adding MORE playoff teams instead of 17 games due to the fact could you imagine the drama and Hope for teams in the last couple of games of the season who would normally be out eliminated by then.

    BTW.. Whatever they do let’s NOT have more than 2 preseason games let’s face it ONE would be Ideal.

  26. Remove the 53 total and 46 active roster limits. What is the justification for them nowadays?
    Keep the salary cap but let teams decide how many players to spread it across. Then go to an 18 game season with fewer hits taken by each individual player. It would be bad for fantasy, but with legal gambling now fantasy is chump change.

  27. The NFL has no competition. They’ve put barriers to entry and the owners are arrogant. They bullied the USFL into the ground. The only way to get them to stop all this nonsense is for us to stop spending money on the NFL. And let the TV ratings tank, which will affect future TV contracts. Then the NFL would listen to us really fast.

  28. The current setup with 32 teams and a 16 game regular season is perfect. I am 100% opposed to any expansion of teams and/or regular season games!

  29. Polls show that Disneyland admission prices are thought of as way to high and yet people keep turning out in record numbers. Are you saying no one will watch or attend that 17th game? Really. The only polls the NFL is interested in are the turnstiles and the tv ratings. I don’t know about you but I’ll watch that 17th game of the schedule just like the others.

  30. 16 game is perfect as is. I’m in favor of adding a 3rd wild card team to each conference and the only bye is the #1 seed. It all ends up the same at the end of the day but we get 2 extra playoff games and teams have something more to play for at the end of the season.

  31. Just wait until fans hear about the inevitable compromise where each player will only be allowed to play 16 games in the regular season, you know, for safety.

  32. If they DO insist on adding more games, they’re going to need to allow more roster spots and adjust the cap accordingly. I’d also be in favor of adding a provision to the salary cap saying something like 40% of the cap has to be allocated to the bottom half of the roster. This helps ensure that vets get paid better, which was what the rookie wage scale was supposed to do, only all that really did was encourage teams to not sign ‘expensive’ vets at all and merely use more rookies.

  33. Fans also don’t like rule changes.

    We hit the iceberg a long time ago, boys.

    Was fun while it lasted.

  34. If 17 game season comes with 2 less preseason games I am call for it. If this was the question would result be different?

  35. One thing the 17th game will do is ensure no even records, there will be winning teams and losing teams.
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    You do know NFL games can end in ties so .500 teams in any game schedule is a possibility.

  36. This thing is such a croc. Player safety? No, it’s nothing but a bargaining chip. Playoff teams play 17 -20 gms/yr. Expand the roster. Add a bye week. Just stop with the hypocritical nonsense. I’m good with 18 gms. I like watching FB. If players don’t like it, go back and finish college

  37. Just increase the number of teams in the play-offs by increasing wild card teams by one each division. And definitely increase the number of players available each game; the 53 man roster should be available for every game.

  38. What if they go to a 19 week season with 3 bye weeks but every team still plays 16 games? 2 extra weekends of football would help tv contacts and bring in more money, but nobody extra would get hurt, and hardcore fans would get more needed breaks. I think this could make more money than adding a game.

  39. aj66shanghai says:
    February 7, 2020 at 6:32 pm
    I hate it for the asymmetry more than anything. Worse would be adding a 33rd team, but not much worse

    -8 Home Games
    -8 Away Games
    -1 Neutral Site

    If they are going to force international games down our throat they may as well play 16 of them and not cost any team one of their own 8 home games. Cut the preseason by two weeks and have a second bye.

  40. The nfl needs to think of ways to extend the careers of older players because older players are often the most marketable having had more time to establish a following. Late career favre, manning, brady, and brees have been ratings gold. Figuring out a way to diminish those players performance and end their careers earlier will not grow the sport long term. The nfl should add more bye weeks.

  41. Oh my. Players will have to play an additional 3 hours a season…well not an entire three hours, just however long that their side of the ball is on the field.

  42. Thumbs up for whoever said fans who cares about the fans. 200.00 bucks for a cheap seat plus the parking and concessions. Horribly looking at 350.00 or 400.00 a game.
    I don’t think anyone cares much about real fans.

  43. It’s al about the NFL not wanting to lose any revenue from eliminating one preseason game. Eliminating one preseason game and giving each team two bye weeks during the season would be the right thing to do, but then there would be the lost money. Those 200’ yachts are expensive…

  44. That poll just shows what those people who participated thought. It’s not set up to measure by NFL fanbase demographics. It’s just whoever happens by.

  45. 18 game regular season. No crying about 1 more away or home game advantage with a 17 game season. 2 pre-season games instead of 4. Expand the roster. The most any player can play is 16 games, so much for the safety rule. Players can miss their 2 games by missing any 4 halves. That would add a bit of excitement, everyone is suited up, but who starts? Will he come out in the second half? Play one play and your half counts. This would add a very interesting dynamic, you get a great lead, you pull your starter. You play him one down and he get’s hurt, it counts. You put him in in the second half to win a crucial game, and you may not have him in the last game of the regular season when you really need him. We get to see guys we don’t normally see. We might see some new talent that has been warming the bench. Lots of interesting things could come of this type of format. JMHO

  46. The poll needs to ask season ticket holders: “Would you prefer a 17 game season and ONE pre-season game versus the current 16 and 2?” Allow teams two additional roster positions and a second bye week to offset wear and tear.

  47. It’s already saturated enough. Get rid of the Thursday night games except for opening season and Thanksgiving

  48. You can’t please everyone. The average fan, just doesn’t think ahead. Fans complained about the preseason games being a joke. Well the 17 regular season games, taking away 1 preseason helps solve that problem. Well now the fans complain about the 17 games, so damn if you do yadda-yadda.The benefits of a 17 game season will go beyond the football field. I’ll leave it at that.

  49. If rosters were increased significantly I would be happy with a 20 game schedule where no play plays more than 16 games. Let the teams manage things, personally I like football.

  50. Does anyone remember that there used to be 12 games with SIX pre-season games?!?! One third of the season didn’t count!

  51. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. 16 games is absolutely perfect, I don’t want to hear any talk whatsoever of expanding that unless we’re talking about adding new franchises to the NFL.

  52. It doesn’t tarnish any previous records. It’s happened at least twice in the history of the game. I don’t know how many times. I for one would vote to add another and maybe another bye week as well. Again, these guys get PAID BIG TIME because the game is dangerous and there’s tons of money involved. People love it, so hand in hand, they want to give more. The players then will get PAID BIGGER! I’m for it

  53. It doesn’t matter at all what fans want.
    These billionaires will do what they want and every fan will step in line.

  54. azcardinal32 says:
    February 7, 2020 at 5:41 pm
    Has anyone considered that adding a game will now make all previous Single Season Records mean nothing? This move will completely mess with the history of the game.
    +++
    But, you don’t care about the records of a 12 game season? How about the 14 game season? Nope. However, don’t mess with my 16 game season records?

    16 games is fine perfect. Yet, it’ll eventually get to 18 games, more likely than not.

    We fans view this as a game, not a business. That’s what the NFL is though.

    The owners will eventually get what they want. The players will complain, but won’t complain about the extra money they’ll get.

    It’s a no win situation for the players. Just like you and I, they are free to find work someplace else.

  55. favrenot says:
    February 8, 2020 at 7:26 am
    18 game regular season. No crying about 1 more away or home game advantage with a 17 game season. 2 pre-season games instead of 4. Expand the roster. The most any player can play is 16 games, so much for the safety rule. Players can miss their 2 games by missing any 4 halves. That would add a bit of excitement, everyone is suited up, but who starts? Will he come out in the second half? Play one play and your half counts. This would add a very interesting dynamic, you get a great lead, you pull your starter. You play him one down and he get’s hurt, it counts. You put him in in the second half to win a crucial game, and you may not have him in the last game of the regular season when you really need him. We get to see guys we don’t normally see. We might see some new talent that has been warming the bench. Lots of interesting things could come of this type of format. JMHO

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    There are a collection of the more ridiculous ideas I have seen on this topic. Congrats. This is the NFL, not pop-warner. Nobody wants limitations on how many minutes or games a given player can participate .

  56. edrooneyjr says:
    February 7, 2020 at 5:43 pm
    I’m out once they go to 17. Super Bowl convinced me the NFL has jumped the shark.
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    What? You like the game, but having more of what you like will make you stop? Weird.

    I’m very much ok with 17-18 game schedule, and two less preseason games. Why would I not want 1-2 more games to watch? Because “records will be broken”, like some guy said? Who cares? What, you’ll cry because some reception or TD record is broken? Why would I care about that?

  57. carloswlassiter says:
    February 7, 2020 at 7:35 pm
    My opposition to it is that it only further waters down the regular season and makes it even more meaningless.
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    Really? Then why not have an 8 game season? Kind of arbitrary in your thinking that 16 is good, but 17 bad.

  58. STOP FIXING SOMETHING THAT’S NOT BROKEN!!

    I could not agree more. There is nothing wrong with maintaining a great product and provide the structure and resources for its continued success. The set up, number of teams, the schedule, the division structure, just about everything works great. Other than another week of TV money, why do this? And maybe pay attention to the players and the fans, but greed, arrogance, and stupidity will find a way to screw this up.

  59. Dilution of the product is never good. More games just means more games at the end of the year with playoff and 3-13 teams phoning it in.

  60. coltzfan166 says:
    February 7, 2020 at 6:10 pm
    I don’t really care for 17 games. I would rather expand playoffs to 14 or 16 teams
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    ABSOF-NLUTELY NOT, there’s already too many weak teams making the Playoffs since the realignment in 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BTW they’d better work on fixing the product they put on the field now because it SUCKS, 17 teams with losing records the last two season and 19 teams at 8-8 or worse, that means there were ONLY 13 teams with winning records out of 32 = SAD, SAD, SAD! And has the NFL actually paid any attention to all of the empty seats around the league now, fans are leaving in droves and the only reason viewership is up is because of all the new international markets that are being opened up with the new tech. Anyone remember what Cuban said would happen to the NFL, well its already started and the NFL better get a handle on it or they’ll go down the same road as NASCAR did 10-15yrs ago!

  61. OBP says:
    February 8, 2020 at 11:38 am
    If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. 16 games is absolutely perfect, I don’t want to hear any talk whatsoever of expanding that unless we’re talking about adding new franchises to the NFL.
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    So 17 teams with losing records the last two seasons isn’t enough for you? There ISN’T enough quality players or coaches to fill 32 teams now and you want to add even more teams which will mean even more less talented players playing the game and more less talented coaches leading those teams = BRILLIANT!

  62. browningsnagle says:
    February 7, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    It’s already impossible to stomach an entire game… non-stop commercials, constant ref interference, absurd penalties, annoying diva athletes, political bs
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    I agree 100% and to add to all that you mentioned the lack of tackling and never ending player celebrations after nearly every play, I was so sick of it by week 10 that I only watched 4 games from week 10 to the Conference championships and two were Playoff games and I didn’t even tune in to the SB, not once! The big thing was I didn’t miss it one bit.

    I binge watch Iron Resurrection and Texas Metal and was far more intertained that I would have been watching 10min of actual playing time stretched out over 4+hrs.

  63. I don’t want 17 games.

    I want 2 extra playoff teams which is part of the proposal even less…

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    Expanding the playoffs is a dumber idea than the regular season. The best playoff scenario in sports is Baseball and it’s because how hard it is to make it. NBA and NHL are a waste of time cause over the half the league gets in. If you expand t say 8, so a total of 16 teams in the play offs every year there will probably be 1 or 2 teams at or below .500. If you can’t win more than half your games you don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.

  64. Damn right it does

    Do we want every NFL record ever to be rendered meaningless?
    Do we want to watch a Bengals-Dolphins game in January?
    Just add an extra bye-week

    It’s not rocket science.

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