Tom Flores “kind of disgusted” by Hall of Fame snub

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When the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced an expanded class in 2020, former Raiders coach Tom Flores thought that was his ticket to Canton. Although Flores had been passed over before, as a two-time Super Bowl winner, he thought he’d make it with more spots available this year.

He didn’t. Instead, two other coaches were chosen, and they just so happened to be the two coaches who work on network studio shows, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher. That gave the Hall of Fame a perfect opportunity to get some publicity with President David Baker making the announcement live on the air during playoff games, but it also served as a dagger to the heart of Flores.

Flores told ESPN he was “kind of disgusted” by the manner in which he was snubbed. Flores also said Baker told him he would be “almost a shoo-in” to make the Hall of Fame when the special 20-man class was announced, and that no one ever called him to tell him he didn’t make it, he just learned when Cowher and Johnson were announced as the two new Hall of Fame coaches on TV.

“It happened. What can I do about it? I don’t have a choice,” Flores said. “My fans are still my fans — they’re still going to make a lot of noise. A lot of people are really pissed off about this whole thing. A lot of people are pissed off for other guys that didn’t make it, either. I can’t say I’m exclusive in that respect.”

The 82-year-old Flores may have just missed his last chance to make the Hall of Fame.

68 responses to “Tom Flores “kind of disgusted” by Hall of Fame snub

  1. He deserves it as a coach over Madden winning the Super Bowl twice. Also a missed opportunity to honor the first Hispanic QB and minority head coach.

  2. Jim Plunkett should be disgusted, too. The only QB who won two (2) Super Bowls not in the Hall Of Fame.
    You would think the Ghost of Pete Rozelle was running the Hall Of Fame.

  3. Still not nearly as disgusted as Hawks fans were with your pathetic attempt at coaching in Seattle. No chance this guy belongs in the HOF. Get him off the list and get Holmgren in there!

  4. I think he is right when compared to Cowher, but I am a huge Raider fan and that era was right in my wheelhouse, and the 1984 Super Bowl team doesn’t get enough respect for how great they were, but Flores’ record in Seattle does him in. It was awful and stains any Hall of Fame credentials, although you could make a case there are too many people in the Hall, so why not a two time Super Bowl champion coach. But if you put people in based on the number of Super Bowls they have won, how many Patriots are going in by that logic? Also Plunkett too should not be in. Jim’s stats are pedestrian at best, and he was benched in the 1983 season, and wasn’t the starter to begin the 1980 season, AND it was probably fortunate for him Marc Wilson was just a rookie or they might have gone with him when Pastorini went down. Sure he made the most of those opportunities, but is that what the Hall of Fame is about, I don’t think that’s enough. Now if Eli gets in, then Plunkett may have an argument. The Raider that got royally screwed was Cliff Branch. As a Raider fan, THAT ONE, I don’t get.

  5. How many times has Don Coryell been a finalist? Seven maybe?

    But suddenly this year, Jimmy and Cowher leap over him and into Canton?

    Two TV guys? This is no accident.

  6. How are Bud Grant and Marv Levy in the Hall and not Flores? None of those coaches won a Super Bowl. And for those who say that Flores’ head coaching record with Seattle counts against him, what about Marv Levy’s record with Kansas City, which he was fired? Flores coached those Raiders teams to Super Bowl victories, including the first Wild Card team to win a Super Bowl.

  7. Tom Flores contributions stem more than a head coach. He has a total of 4 Super Bowl Rings, first minority to win the Super Bowl, first coach to win a Super Bowl as a wildcard. He was a solid call on the radio broadcast for the Raiders as well.

  8. Good grief….no way Flores belongs in Hall of Fame and especially not over Cowher. Flores coached 12 years is currently 44th all time in wins. He coached in 184 regular season games with a 97-87 record and a .523 W-L%. Was in the playoffs 5 years with an 8-3 record and a .727 W-L%. He coached in 2 Super Bowls and won both.

    Cowher coached 15 years and currently is 20th all time in wins. He coached in 240 regular season games with a 149-90-1 record with a .623 W-L%. He was in the playoffs 10 years with a 12-9 record and a .571 W-L%. He coached in 2 Super Bowls and won 1.

    Please don’t tell me Flores belongs over Cowher…the stats don’t back the argument.

  9. mackcarrington says:
    February 13, 2020 at 6:32 pm
    Jim Plunkett should be disgusted, too. The only QB who won two (2) Super Bowls not in the Hall Of Fame.
    You would think the Ghost of Pete Rozelle was running the Hall Of Fame.
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    You mean the same Jim Plunkett with a 72-72 record and 164 ID and 199 Int? The same one is isn’t in the top 25 of any category for his career except for sack yardage lost. The same QB who never started more than 13 games in any of his last 9 seasons? Winning 2 super bowls was nice, but he is NOWHERE near a HOFer

  10. Flores, Roger Craig, and Drew Pearson were absolutely hosed this year. They should have been by far the top candidates.

  11. I’m not saying he isn’t deserving… but if two Super Bowl rings means you should automatically get in, we’re adding Mike Shanahan too, right?

  12. I absolutely hate the Steelers but don’t ever mention Bill Cowhers name when trying to justify Flores. Cowher was ten times the coach he was. Bill C lost 23 free agents due to the salary cap one year and won the super bowl the next. Please Flores can’t compare he does not and should not ever be in the hall. If he wants a club maybe be can join the moose.

  13. Just to be clear the guy has 4 rings, one as a player, one as an assitant and 2 as a coach if that’s not enough what is really? Don’t like the raiders but come on lol

  14. Flores should be the next coach inducted into the HOF. If you’re gonna put Dungy and Cowher into the HOF then you might as well put in McCarthy. And no I don’t think McCarthy deserves to be in but look at his resume and compare it to Cowher or Dungy and tell me he’s equal to them

  15. By no means a Raiders fan, but this dude has the resume of a Hall of Famer. Actually shocked he has been bypassed. By my own fault, I didnt see him being passed up. Cowher for example, is a good coach, but he is good. HoF. Not sold. Kind of like he won a Super Bowl and lost some good and called it a career. Flores won two in between HoF coaches.

  16. Coach Flores should be in the HOF. He won two Super Bowls in which the Raiders were slight underdogs but absolutely destroyed their opponents. The ’83 Raiders were an awesome team. Flores’ two Super Bowls were won with Plunkett, who hadn’t done much prior to playing under Coach Flores.

    Flores was one of the leading passers in AFL history, and won a Super Bowl as a backup QB and also an asst. coach. It is really disgraceful that a man with so much history is not in the HOF.

    The Seattle era shouldn’t be held against him…..anymore than Stram’s or Ditka’s tenures in New Orleans should be held against them.

    It is unbelievable that Dungy, Cowher, and Johnson are considered HOF coaches and Flores isn’t.

  17. A Hall of Fame without Tom Flores’ contribution to the game recognized, is at best a hall of politics, if not, outright a hall of pretentiousness

  18. “He deserves it as a coach over Madden winning the Super Bowl twice. Also a missed opportunity to honor the first Hispanic QB and minority head coach.”

    He either deserves it or he doesn’t, but race should have nothing to do with the decision one way or the other.

  19. Flores was as good or better than Jimmy Johnson as coach. Both have 2 Super Bowls as coach (Flores’ wins were 3 years apart versus back to back) and Flores has more wins. Both Cowher and Johnson are on TV and are known to current public. For Flores you have to go to Oakland (or now Vegas) to hear him.

  20. As he should be!! I’m a Cowboys fan and think he should have gotten in over Jimmy. In addition to winning 2 Super Bowls as a head coach, he has one Super Bowl as an assistant and one as a player (back up QB). That 4 Superbowls. Not only did he spend an upteen amount of years coaching in the NFL, he also spent 9 years PLAYING in the NFL! The man has been ROBBED.

  21. Lets be honest – you vote in Cowher and Johnson and you don’t hear any griping about the process – which was primarily aimed at getting Tagliabue in. Doing it on live TV, nobody is going to say it’s a joke. And I’m also uncertain if those on the committee were aware of the final vote ahead of the announcement, which makes me wonder about the transparency. At least in the regular process, the voters know what the final vote is. I do think the entire special process was engineered to get the result desired.

  22. Mike Shanahan has two Lombardis and 73 more career HC wins than Flores (who has a mere 52% winning career HC winningrecord) and Shanahan isnt in and doesnt cry about it.

  23. There are plenty of players and coaches who have been voted into the HOF who do not belong. The Steelers have an entire wing at the HOF devoted to former Steelers who do not really belong in the HOF. Flores just happens to be a former Raider who does not belong in the HOF who has justifiably not been elected to the HOF. If he was associated with the Steelers, he would be in.

  24. The Hall of Fame is supposed to be about players/ now coaches who changed the game for their time. These guys stand out as legends and were undisputed as the best of the best during their time. Somewhere along the way, they lost that appeal. The HoF is a joke now.

  25. He’s not wrong but he needs to put it into perspective as to what a joke it is to be inducted. Joe Namath is in the HOF.

  26. 8-3 in playoffs, .727 winning percentage is probably only topped by Lombardi for a guy with that many playoff games (.900 for Lombardi untouchable). Even Belichick is .721. Give the man a little credit.

  27. Everyone says the hardest job in sports is coaching for Al Davis. Flores won 2 Super Bowl’s as his boss (most people had the Raiders as the AFC’s worst team in one of those years) and yet he can’t get a sniff. Truly demoralizing.

  28. Just like the R&R hall of fame, the NFL hall of fame is a joke and a popularity contest. It’s time for someone or corporation to start a legit HOF for both.

  29. Good grief….no way Flores belongs in Hall of Fame and especially not over Cowher. Flores coached 12 years is currently 44th all time in wins. He coached in 184 regular season games with a 97-87 record and a .523 W-L%. Was in the playoffs 5 years with an 8-3 record and a .727 W-L%. He coached in 2 Super Bowls and won both.

    Cowher coached 15 years and currently is 20th all time in wins. He coached in 240 regular season games with a 149-90-1 record with a .623 W-L%. He was in the playoffs 10 years with a 12-9 record and a .571 W-L%. He coached in 2 Super Bowls and won 1.

    Please don’t tell me Flores belongs over Cowher…the stats don’t back the argument.
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    I’ll tell you then. Two SB wins for Flores.

  30. The worst Hall of Fame snub, by far, is former Patriot Gino Capalletti.

    He is the all-time leading scorer in the history of the American Football League. That, lone, should suffice for enshrinement. He played two positions: kicker and wide receiver. He was league MVP one year and an all-pro several years, in his 11-year career.

  31. ppq82 says:
    February 13, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    I’m not saying he isn’t deserving… but if two Super Bowl rings means you should automatically get in, we’re adding Mike Shanahan too, right?
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    YES.

  32. Sorry Tom, its no longer pro football hall of fame, its the pro football hall of guys who went to work for the networks after they retired

  33. If you believe Eli is a hall of famer, then Flores should be too.

    Flores deserves it before Cowher. Shanahan should get in too with 2 rings. There’s a weird logjam with coaches and then all of the sudden they let in two guys who weren’t really on the radar at all? Just because they’re on TV now?

  34. idiedpretty says:
    February 14, 2020 at 3:46 am
    Mike Shanahan has two Lombardis and 73 more career HC wins than Flores (who has a mere 52% winning career HC winningrecord) and Shanahan isnt in and doesnt cry about it.

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    Flores never cheated the Salary Cap like Shanahan did in 1995, 1996 and 1997. When you have an advantage in FA over every other team like Denver did, that’s 100% cheating. They hid Elway and Terrell Dsvis’s true salaries. It’s the greatest scandal in sports history.

  35. collectordude says:
    February 14, 2020 at 12:25 pm
    George Seifert also has 2 rings.
    No respect.

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    He also inherited loaded teams. The 1980s Raiders team was OLD and broken down and they still won it all. He then coached a completely different team with brand new bodies on it to a title in 1983, vs a loaded and defending champ juggernaut Skins team.

    In other words, Flores was more impressive than Tony Dungy or someone like George Seifert.

    Everyone knows Seifert was a good coach, but not a HOF candidate. The minority factor is why people say Dungy got in, so if that’s the case, the superior Flores, who had no Peyton Manning, has to be in.

    Get it?

  36. Wow. Who knew that there was so much thin skin in the NFL – apparently the feeling of disrespect is experiencing a bumper crop these past 10 to 15 years.

  37. A true pro doesnt beg to get into the HOF. Further, his record doesnt support it. Additionally, he coached dirty as his Raider teams were the most penalized and fined in the league during his tenure. Sorry, he is not HOF worthy.

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