Rob Ninkovich: If Tom Brady leaves, it gets harder to lure players to Patriots

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The Patriots have been able to remain one of the top teams in the league for a couple of decades, largely based on the presence of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.

But with one of them uncertain to remain in New England, the future for the team could get decidedly cloudier.

Former Patriots linebacker and ESPN analyst Rob Ninkovich told Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald that if Brady leaves, it could trigger an exodus of free agents and make it harder to lure new guys in.

“It’s going to be difficult to try and bring everybody back. I would think if Tom comes back, one of those other players comes back,” Ninkovich said of their passel of free agents. “But if Tom doesn’t come back, I don’t know if those guys are going to want to stick around. Because what’s the outlook for the team? Is it a rebuilding phase? What happens moving forward?

That would be a hard sell. In years past, the Patriots have been able to get guys at a bargain, because it’s an older veteran, a guy who’s looking for a Super Bowl, for a playoff run. They’re approached by the Patriots, who say, ‘Look, we’re not going to guarantee the biggest contract, but we’re going to give you an opportunity to play in the playoffs and Super Bowl if you’re interested. Ninety-nine percent of the guys are ‘yeah, I want some validation for my football career.’’’

The Patriots have a number of their own free agents to worry about in addition to Brady, including Devin McCourty, Kyle Van Noy, and Jamie Collins.

And while there’s ample reason to trust Belichick, the sales job definitely gets tougher without a known commodity at quarterback.

50 responses to “Rob Ninkovich: If Tom Brady leaves, it gets harder to lure players to Patriots

  1. Unless they keep winning, which I expect they will, regardless of who’s under center. Recall the drama of “Who’s Jimmy Garropolo? Who’s Jacoby Brissett? Who are these backup guys filling in for Brady while he’s suspended? OMG! Can we continue to win?” All seemed to be fine. Chill out there, Rob, and enjoy your retirement.

  2. Someone needs to remind these “analysts” that the Patriots got to 12-4 because they had one of the top defenses in 2019, with a very pedestrian performance from Tom Brady and the offense…

  3. The Patriots without Brady can still win the division if they can scrape up an OK QB.
    It’s not like the Patriots, with a greta defense, minus Brady are hot garbage that no one would go to.

    They may not get as much of a home team discount, but players will still consider them.
    Unless they want to dog it, and cash out, and play for a scrub team.

  4. If Dak Prescott went to the Patriots and Brady came to the Cowboys, it would be interesting to see who would take their team the farthest. I think Brady would take Dallas deep into the playoffs. Dak, not so much.

  5. Who are they luring to them? Antonio Brown, Chad Johnson, Every Cleveland Browns draft bust of the last 15 years?

    I mean the list of Patriots free agent pickups over the years is far from impressive which is why the fact that they win as much as they do annoys many fans. Are you mad at your team for drafting a bum? It’s ok they’ll release him and he’ll go to New England, play just as mediocre and win. People are giving Tom Brady way too much credit being that he’s on a team that has proven they can still win without him.

  6. This is the same with every team with an elite QB who’s past their rookie contract. If you look at the guys who are getting overpaid at their positions, they’re pretty much all on the also-ran teams, the teams that overcompensate for the lack of a true star QB and think paying other positions QB-level salaries will get them a trophy. (It doesn’t.)

    Guys may not always have a lot of options, but when they go to the Pats, Seahawks, Packers, Saints, etc., they have to be thinking – this could be my ticket to a ring.

    I think it’s the combo of Brady & Belichick that gives the Pats that edge over everyone – players aren’t thinking, “Carroll/LaFleur/Payton are going to win a SB for sure”. Even cut-above coaches mostly look like amateurs when it counts, compared to Belichick. There’s a level of all-business that no one has like the Pats.

  7. …..Love The GOAT….but lets not act like He’s the glue holding this thing together.

    Bill will field a competitive team with our without The GOAT.

  8. mrfrostyj says:
    February 20, 2020 at 8:50 am
    Who are they luring to them? Antonio Brown, Chad Johnson, Every Cleveland Browns draft bust of the last 15 years?

    I mean the list of Patriots free agent pickups over the years is far from impressive which is why the fact that they win as much as they do annoys many fans. Are you mad at your team for drafting a bum? It’s ok they’ll release him and he’ll go to New England, play just as mediocre and win. People are giving Tom Brady way too much credit being that he’s on a team that has proven they can still win without him.

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    Brady Fanboys in the Millennial Gen believe that but people who know football know this.

    Everything channels through BB, not Brady. Brady is very difficult to work with, now skips OTAs and refuses to work with younger, fast and talented WRs, and it’s very hard to break into the vaunted Circle of Trust.

    If you mess up once, you’re in the doghouse with him. It’s been a problem for a while. It’s part of the reason why he’s the only HOF QB to have these issues, while the others do not.

  9. akira1971 says:
    February 20, 2020 at 8:05 am
    Someone needs to remind these “analysts” that the Patriots got to 12-4 because they had one of the top defenses in 2019, with a very pedestrian performance from Tom Brady and the offense…

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    If only Brady’s head was in it. That pick 6 to Eric Rowe was bizarre. It was almost like he was trying to throw the game.

  10. People are giving Tom Brady way too much credit being that he’s on a team that has proven they can still win without him.
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    In 20 years, the Pats have played 20 games without TB. The 11-5 season is always pointed to as rationale for anyone can win in NE. Its a joke. The same team went 16-0 the year before and Cassell ended up being a serviceable pro bowl QB in KC the next year. They also missed the playoffs that year.

    Regarding the 3-1 with Jimmy G and Brisett – that is also a mirage. The Pats should have lost the first game to Arizona with Jimmy, but the AZ kicker missed a chip shot field goal at the end of the game. Brisett won against Houston at home without scoring a TD then was shut out against the hapless Bills. Bottom line is the Pats haven’t won, yet alone played in, a playoff game without TB in the last 20 years. BB has exactly one playoff win without TB as his QB and is a roughly .500 coach without TB as a starter.

  11. Players sign to NE because they are a great team, with great coaching, and great organization. Bad seeds, disgruntles, selfish players are quickly jettisoned. Many revitalize their careers gone stale in old “flavor of the day” defenses and offenses on other teams. Ask the guys TRADED to NE. Akeem Ayers, on the outs in Tennessee, was revitalized in NE for a big payday. Van Noy, also traded, is looking at a payday as well. Who was the latest nose tackle? revitalized, signed a multimillion deal with the bears, I think. Then there are the guys that come back, like Collins. NE couldn’t pay him, he did so-so in Cleveland, was back in NE tearing it up. Welker? That story is well known. Junior Seau came out of retirement for a chance to play in NE. When NE calls, people listen, Brady or not.

  12. Everything channels through BB, not Brady. Brady is very difficult to work with, now skips OTAs and refuses to work with younger, fast and talented WRs, and it’s very hard to break into the vaunted Circle of Trust.
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    Recall Brady was throwing with Josh Gordon when he was pending reinstatement. Doesn’t sound like “refusing” to work with players. How much OTA does a 20-year vet of the same offensive season need? 13 of 19 postseasons, NINE 19-game seasons? Give the man a few extra weeks off.

  13. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2020 at 9:47 am
    People are giving Tom Brady way too much credit being that he’s on a team that has proven they can still win without him.
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    In 20 years, the Pats have played 20 games without TB. The 11-5 season is always pointed to as rationale for anyone can win in NE. Its a joke. The same team went 16-0 the year before and Cassell ended up being a serviceable pro bowl QB in KC the next year. They also missed the playoffs that year.

    Regarding the 3-1 with Jimmy G and Brisett – that is also a mirage. The Pats should have lost the first game to Arizona with Jimmy, but the AZ kicker missed a chip shot field goal at the end of the game. Brisett won against Houston at home without scoring a TD then was shut out against the hapless Bills. Bottom line is the Pats haven’t won, yet alone played in, a playoff game without TB in the last 20 years. BB has exactly one playoff win without TB as his QB and is a roughly .500 coach without TB as a starter

    Not only that but the Cassell year they didn’t beat a team with a winning record

    BB record in NE WITHOUT Brady, —19-19 zero playoff appearances

  14. If you mess up once, you’re in the doghouse with him. It’s been a problem for a while. It’s part of the reason why he’s the only HOF QB to have these issues, while the others do not.
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    Name me a HOF QB who had his best/second best weapon replaced by two practice squad TEs that could hardly make the field? Had two undrafted rookies with hands of rock. Had their #1 draft pick go on IR before the season and come back to show little contribution. Had two proven, veteran WRs on the roster early in the year that were then released and replaced by a (at best) #2 WR?

    Drew Brees didn’t have to deal with that. Aaron Rodgers didn’t. Neither did Phillip Rivers. The only other QB with weapons almost as bad as TB is Rodgers and his numbers look very similar to Brady’s this past year.

  15. “Bill will field a competitive team with our without The GOAT.”
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    But competitive is a LONG ways away from being camped in the Super Bowl nearly every season. Free agents have lots of competitive teams to pick from, opponents don’t fear merely competitive teams, and the players on competitive teams don’t have the confidence or swagger that the Patriots have had for the past many years.

  16. mrfrostyj says:
    February 20, 2020 at 8:50 am
    I mean the list of Patriots free agent pickups over the years is far from impressive which is why the fact that they win as much as they do annoys many fans.

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    That they go on to win with those players would suggest that their pickups have over the long haul been impressive enough, and those that kept not seeing it that way were simply mistaken.

    Every team has whiffs now and again, the Patriots are no exception. But just because last year they got bit by a string of bad luck (and fans were quite enthusiastic about those signings at the time so the “I saw it coming“ crowd is full of bull, they did not) does not mean their overall track record has not been good. These things happen, the test now is do the Pats recover and rise up again or is that batch of tough breaks the thing that starts the downslide. And only time will tell on that.

  17. mogogo1 says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:05 am
    “Bill will field a competitive team with our without The GOAT.”
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    But competitive is a LONG ways away from being camped in the Super Bowl nearly every season. Free agents have lots of competitive teams to pick from, opponents don’t fear merely competitive teams, and the players on competitive teams don’t have the confidence or swagger that the Patriots have had for the past many years.

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    The last high profile FA BB signed was Adalius Thomas. A trade may be a different discussion, certainly.

    Brady personally asked for Sanu last spring. That’s why when the price was too steep (may have been what BB paid at the deadline), BB passed then they asked Brady if he wanted Brown and he said “1000%, yes!” per Kraft via Al Michaels.

    So, I think it’s high time to accept Brady has a lot of pull with what he wants on offense and what BB tries to do to support Brady. The results, however, have been pretty mixed at WR and TE.

    I would say LaFall was the lone FA signing, maybe Hogan the other, who were really above average FA moves that BB has had for Brady on offense. Marty Bennett, Corey Dillon and Moss came via trades.

  18. The Patriots are a Dynasty. They will be fine and a contender for years. The Patriot Way is well established as a franchise designed to compete over many years. Belichick will put best team on field in 2020. The players will all work hard play hard and compete for 60 minutes every game. You have to beat them on the field. They will be ready to compete. They will look at toughest schedule in NFL in 2020 as a challenge. They laugh at excuse makers and pretenders and divas. And they take great pride in shutting the mouths of haters and doubters. bring int on NFL. We will be ready. No team can win every year but the dominant consistency of the dynasty cannot be just written off. Play the games. ignore social media idiots and lame analysts. In New England only the Patriots control their destiny. Idiots ahve been doubting them and making excuses for 2 decades and they all have had their mouths shut by the Dynasty. On to 2020 and ocmpeting for a title.

  19. gronkhof says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:01 am
    Everything channels through BB, not Brady. Brady is very difficult to work with, now skips OTAs and refuses to work with younger, fast and talented WRs, and it’s very hard to break into the vaunted Circle of Trust.
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    Recall Brady was throwing with Josh Gordon when he was pending reinstatement. Doesn’t sound like “refusing” to work with players. How much OTA does a 20-year vet of the same offensive season need? 13 of 19 postseasons, NINE 19-game seasons? Give the man a few extra weeks off.

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    How many QBs skip OTAs? Answer: ZERO in the history of the NFL, at least those under contract.

    Get it?

    He’s a captain…a leader, arguably THE leader of the team and certainly the offense.

    When you say how much does he need?…I ask what seasons was he MVP level Brady when he skipped OTAs? He’s declined 2 years in a row AFTER skipping OTAs. You seem to forget he was horrendous in 2018 without Edelman. Edelman is a guy who works out excelusively with Brady at his ranch in Montana. Why aren’t other WRs invivted to that? I ask YOU how many more reps does he need to take with Edelman? How much better does he need to get to know Edelman? get it>

    OTAs is about getting to know new teammates. If you’re not there and dialed in, you’re not committed to the team.

    Why is Brady above the team now? What made him was being PART of the team and not above the team.

    It’s what separated him from Manning.

  20. Anton Chigurh says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:05 am
    mrfrostyj says:
    February 20, 2020 at 8:50 am
    I mean the list of Patriots free agent pickups over the years is far from impressive which is why the fact that they win as much as they do annoys many fans.

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    That they go on to win with those players would suggest that their pickups have over the long haul been impressive enough, and those that kept not seeing it that way were simply mistaken.

    Every team has whiffs now and again, the Patriots are no exception. But just because last year they got bit by a string of bad luck (and fans were quite enthusiastic about those signings at the time so the “I saw it coming“ crowd is full of bull, they did not) does not mean their overall track record has not been good. These things happen, the test now is do the Pats recover and rise up again or is that batch of tough breaks the thing that starts the downslide. And only time will tell on that.

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    All true, except I would put a lot of money down on the idea that Stidham would lead NE ot the division title next year.

    People severely under-estimate how superior BB is as a GM and Coach, when there is years and years of proof where Brady missed time and NE still won 11+ games. Garoppolo was well on his way to leading NE to the division in 2016, for example.

    If BB had Garoppolo the last few years, they’d be winning the division as Jimmy proved out in SF with a D not quite as good as NEs last year.

    Imagine if Brady just moved the ball even a little in some of those games? LOL

    I mean, how do you have a GOAT QB who looks like garbage to that degree with that talent at WR? There is a borderline HOF WR and some good ones around him, including 1st rd picks.

    It’s just unreal. WRs go to die with Brady because he over-analyzes how to run the offense during games with McDoofus. How many times have seen BB intervene durning a game recently? A lot. That’s telling.

  21. rickfol says: “What QB in his right mind will ever want to be the player that replaces Brady. Doomed to fail.”
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    Aaron Rodgers replaced Brett Favre. Steve Young replaced Joe Montana. Boomer Esiason replaced Ken Anderson.

  22. rfkimball says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:36 am
    The Patriots are a Dynasty. They will be fine and a contender for years. The Patriot Way is well established as a franchise designed to compete over many years. Belichick will put best team on field in 2020. The players will all work hard play hard and compete for 60 minutes every game. You have to beat them on the field. They will be ready to compete. They will look at toughest schedule in NFL in 2020 as a challenge. They laugh at excuse makers and pretenders and divas. And they take great pride in shutting the mouths of haters and doubters. bring int on NFL. We will be ready. No team can win every year but the dominant consistency of the dynasty cannot be just written off. Play the games. ignore social media idiots and lame analysts. In New England only the Patriots control their destiny. Idiots ahve been doubting them and making excuses for 2 decades and they all have had their mouths shut by the Dynasty. On to 2020 and ocmpeting for a title.

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    Right, except who has been acting like a Diva after not getting a huge contract through the age of 45??

    Facebook docs, TB12 branding obsession, skipping OTAs, showing up teammates when he himself is playing like complete garbage with off field buddy McDaniels.

    It’s very disappointing. And, it all started with Giselle. Her influence on him is absolutely real.

  23. I don’t especially like the Pats but I’m a huge admirer of Bill Belichick. Those free agents that are looking beyond just money and who want to play in a winning system will still be drawn to New England as long as Belichick is in charge.

  24. Garoppolo was well on his way to leading NE to the division in 2016, for example.
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    WHAT? Jimmy played six quarters of football that year. The Pats should have lost against AZ but their kicker missed a dome FG at the end of regulation. He played well for 20 minutes against Miami before getting hurt. “Well on his way”……..

  25. Hahaha I love all you “remember 12-4 without Brady” season people. It takes on a way different dynamic when he’s on another roster, maybe it works out, who knows but it’s way different, it’s not like there’s a ton of recent precedent without Brady. That 12-4 season could’ve been an aberration, it’s happened before & will happen again. Sounds like there’s some insecurity over there. Can’t blame yas though, having the GOAT for 20 years & then all the sudden not would send any fan base into a tizzy

  26. If BB had Garoppolo the last few years, they’d be winning the division as Jimmy proved out in SF with a D not quite as good as NEs last year.
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    So if BB had Jimmy G, they would be winning division titles the last few years? That’s awesome. Just out of curiosity, what have they been doing the last few years with TB? Any SB appearances in there? Any MVP seasons?

  27. It’s just unreal. WRs go to die with Brady because he over-analyzes how to run the offense during games with McDoofus. How many times have seen BB intervene durning a game recently? A lot. That’s telling.
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    Really? Tell that to Chris Hogan, Danny Amendola, Brandin Cooks, just to name a few of the more recent WRs who came to NE, performed well, and left for more $. If BB is intervening, he’s clearly not doing a great job. I mean, how many teams can’t score a TD running it 3 times on 1st and goal from the 1? I thought the Pats had the best RB depth in the league? The TENN game ended right there

  28. BB isn’t the easiest guy to get along with and he’s terrible to TB. I get the feeling TB holds that team together and without him some of those guys aren’t going to want to put up with BBs way. If they are rebuilding free agents aren’t going to want to go there for considerably less money like they have been. If TB is gone stick a fork in the Patriots.

  29. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2020 at 11:20 am
    If BB had Garoppolo the last few years, they’d be winning the division as Jimmy proved out in SF with a D not quite as good as NEs last year.
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    So if BB had Jimmy G, they would be winning division titles the last few years? That’s awesome. Just out of curiosity, what have they been doing the last few years with TB? Any SB appearances in there? Any MVP seasons?

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    Yep and the D won the SB last season. This year? Brady skipped OTAs again and forgot to develop relationships other than with his bromance with Edelman.

    Say, hey! Do ya think if Brady comes back, Sanu, the guy he asked for in a trade last spring, will be allowed to Brady’s Montana ranch?

    Brady will be 43 this year. I’d highly suggest he not mentally check out again this coming season, assuming he res-igns.

  30. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2020 at 11:14 am
    Garoppolo was well on his way to leading NE to the division in 2016, for example.
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    WHAT? Jimmy played six quarters of football that year. The Pats should have lost against AZ but their kicker missed a dome FG at the end of regulation. He played well for 20 minutes against Miami before getting hurt. “Well on his way”……..

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    And he looked fantastic doing it. Still does. Just an efficient and crisp QB approach.

    Brady USED to do that.

  31. tylawspick6 says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:25 am
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    The last high profile FA BB signed was Adalius Thomas.
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    Stephon Gilmore was not high enough profile for you?

  32. I would disagree with that. I think considering Belichecks winning track record and seeing what QB’s in his offense are able to achieve. There will be QB’s chomping at the bit to become a part of this team, which then creates excitement for other players to want to be part of it as well. It’s the Patriots, it’s bill Belicheck. Come on.

  33. I hope he doesn’t return just cause it will be fascinating and entertaining to see what and how BB and the Pats do without him. He did it with Cassel, and it will be interesting to see if he can do it again.

  34. whywerule says:
    February 20, 2020 at 12:14 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 20, 2020 at 10:25 am
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    The last high profile FA BB signed was Adalius Thomas.
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    Stephon Gilmore was not high enough profile for you?

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    Not really. He was sort of a disappointment in Buffalo. BB resurrected his career, certainly.

    Price-wise, yes, he certainly splurged. I was more talking about how rare it is for BB to spend on offense in FA. It’s very rare. All costs are kept low to offset the QB pricetag (this would the right way anywhere), and to draft and develop said talent.

    If he does go FA on offense, it’s more strategic and low profile. LaFell, BUrkhead, etc.

    Thanks!

  35. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2020 at 11:23 am
    It’s just unreal. WRs go to die with Brady because he over-analyzes how to run the offense during games with McDoofus. How many times have seen BB intervene durning a game recently? A lot. That’s telling.
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    Really? Tell that to Chris Hogan, Danny Amendola, Brandin Cooks, just to name a few of the more recent WRs who came to NE, performed well, and left for more $. If BB is intervening, he’s clearly not doing a great job. I mean, how many teams can’t score a TD running it 3 times on 1st and goal from the 1? I thought the Pats had the best RB depth in the league? The TENN game ended right there

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    Hogan and Amendola were not high profile signings. Good lord, BB was all but mocked for signing Amendola. LOL

    Cooks was acquired via trade. And he was ditched due to cost.

    Try again.

  36. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2020 at 11:14 am
    Garoppolo was well on his way to leading NE to the division in 2016, for example.
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    WHAT? Jimmy played six quarters of football that year. The Pats should have lost against AZ but their kicker missed a dome FG at the end of regulation. He played well for 20 minutes against Miami before getting hurt. “Well on his way”……..

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    You do realize BB spent everyday with JimmyG, right? And Brady. And Cassel (on the fly).

    Shall I keep going?

    Riddle me this, bozo Millennial: Why on earth would you mock BB as the GM and Coach, the greatest ever in sports history, if he’s the one who personally developed these QBs, including JimmyG?

    Hint: Stidham was drafted to be a successor and BB has been spendning a lot of time with him, and by all accounts, the like his progress.

    Some day, Brady will be out of bullets in NE and part of me can’t wait so we can lose young fans like you due to how annoying you people are, completely unable to admit when Brady sucks. He’s a human, not a robot like you think he is.

    And yes, NE had the best RB group in the AFC. It wasn’t cloxe 1-4. Bolden barely played and the rookie from Bama (Harris will be good) couldn’t even dress! That’s how loaded they were.

    What’s the excuse there as to why they weren’t used? Where is the 2 back set? Why does Brady keep wanting the RBs subbed in and out, telegraphing plays? Hmm>

  37. whenwilliteverend says:
    February 20, 2020 at 11:55 am
    BB isn’t the easiest guy to get along with and he’s terrible to TB. I get the feeling TB holds that team together and without him some of those guys aren’t going to want to put up with BBs way. If they are rebuilding free agents aren’t going to want to go there for considerably less money like they have been. If TB is gone stick a fork in the Patriots.

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    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BB is “terrible to TB”? And you know this how? Brady owes much of his career to be drafted by BB and developed by BB. Don’t kid yourself.

    Even Brady has publicly said this on numerous occasions. Brady would be nowhere near where his legacy is if he was drafted by about 90% of the other teams in this league considering how wildly inconsistent and poor NFL teams are run in the Cap Era. 50% of the league are outright laughingstocks and repeat the same teambuilding mistakes, over and over.

  38. Belichick can take his’n and beat your’n, and then he can turn around and take your’n and beat his’n. Pats will be okay with or without Brady. They probably won’t be in 50% of the next 10-15 Super Bowls, but they’ll be contenders every year.

  39. Hogan and Amendola were not high profile signings. Good lord, BB was all but mocked for signing Amendola. LOL

    Cooks was acquired via trade. And he was ditched due to cost.

    Try again.
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    For once, try answering the question instead of just ranting and confirming the lack of football knowledge. You said WRs go to NE to die? Who has done so? The last few WRs to come to NE have performed well and left to sign bigger contracts. I named three of them. Then all of a sudden its a discussion of profile? Very few high profile offensive weapons come to NE so what does that have to do with anything? And, without Danny Amendola, the Pats probably don’t win a few of those SBs.

  40. You do realize BB spent everyday with JimmyG, right? And Brady. And Cassel (on the fly).

    Shall I keep going?

    Riddle me this, bozo Millennial: Why on earth would you mock BB as the GM and Coach, the greatest ever in sports history, if he’s the one who personally developed these QBs, including JimmyG?
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    Riddle me this, grandma: Why is BB a .500 coach without TB as his starting QB?

    What do millennials have to do with anything? Do only old people like BB and younger people like TB? I’m 40 and think they are both awesome. I also am in the camp that TB is more responsible given BB has never player a down of football for the Pats in his life. Execution far outweighs planning. But I don’t fault people who think BB is more responsible. Nor do I think only younger people side with TB vs grumpy older people side with BB.

  41. Yep and the D won the SB last season. This year? Brady skipped OTAs again and forgot to develop relationships other than with his bromance with Edelman.
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    Yea, and BB’s defense lost the SB the year before against the Eagles. We can play this game all day. That same defense gave up 31 second half points to the Cheifs in the AFCC and it required more 4th quarter/OT heroics from the offense so let’s pump the breaks on the whole defense was the sole reason for last years’ SB.

  42. Someone actually argue that Jimmy G was on his way to winning the 2016 division? Seriously? The kid played 1.5 games before going down with a shoulder injury.

    He wasn’t on his way to anything. Still hasn’t accomplished anything despite playing on a super stacked Niners team.

  43. A 20 yr veteran QB missing OTA’s? Big deal. They’re 7 on 7 passing drills, with some orientation for new or young players and some installation. Brady is there for mandatory minicamp in June and 6 weeks of training camp practices. And works with WRs on his own. Plenty. Brady wants to spend more time with his 3 growing children and a wife that would probably rather he retire. After giving his heart and soul into late January(minimum). Who does this guy think he is?? Blame the coaching staff and injuries for the young WRs barely knowing where to line up, never mind run a proper route. OTA’s. LOL

  44. He wasn’t on his way to anything. Still hasn’t accomplished anything despite playing on a super stacked Niners team.
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    But but but he would have won division titles with BB. He was well on his way to winning in 2016 after playing a mere 20 minutes of football…

    Jimmy G may be a good QB, he may not. He certainly has a long way to go. In 3 career playoff games, he is 37/58 for 427 yards, 2 TDs, and 3 INTs. He is averaging less than 150 yards a game. The SB was in his hands a few weeks ago and we all saw how that went. I mean, I guess he can always say he is a 2-time SB winner without even taking a snap in either game.

  45. So true. BB is the GOAT coach but he is a hard ass. Without a proven QB some players won’t want to deal with that.

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