Patriots, Tom Brady’s agent to meet in Indianapolis

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Tom Brady is scheduled to become a free agent next month. Will he make it to the market?

That’s perhaps the biggest question as free agency fast approaches.

Brady’s agent, Donald Yee, is expected to meet with the Patriots during the Combine, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports. That is not a surprise.

This week begins all serious contract talks with agents and team executives convening in Indianapolis.

Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald said “the feeling is it might be a starting point for real dialogue about a contract” between the Patriots and Brady.

Brady, 42, might be looking for more than a one-year deal as well as assurance that the Patriots will get him some better weapons, according to Guregian.

41 responses to “Patriots, Tom Brady’s agent to meet in Indianapolis

  1. “Brady, 42, might be looking for more than a one-year deal as well as assurance that the Patriots will get him some better weapons, according to Guregian.”

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    The narrative hasn’t changed since Aug 2019.

  2. This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

  3. bullcharger says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:50 am
    “Brady, 42, might be looking for more than a one-year deal as well as assurance that the Patriots will get him some better weapons, according to Guregian.”

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    The narrative hasn’t changed since Aug 2019.

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    Karen does a great job and I believe her word in that Brady is a snob and wants “better” weapons, but I am sorry….You cannot skip OTAs, act all insubordinate towards BB, disrespect your own teammates, the fans, etc, and then when it comes time to show up, you crap your pants. I am sorry. I don’t care if his name is Brady.

    Even if BB was to trade or sign a good WR option for Brady, will Brady show up to get to know his new teammate?

    How is this acceptable? If anyone needs to do the same hard work the player has done to become what he’s become, at his age now, it’s without question Brady.

    Hard work, routine, leadership, etc….It’s what made him.

    Passively-aggressively showing up your GM and Coach (BB) AFTER he did what you personally wanted (tried to trade for Sanu–>Brown–Sanu), is absolutely horrible leadership.

  4. Cue all the crybabies that hate the Pat’s and tb12 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  5. “Retire already.”

    the guy was 7th in the league in passing last season with a 3:1 TD to INT ratio and still one of the best QBs in the game. I know you’re tired of the Pats pounding whatever sad franchise you’re too embarrassed to identify that you cheer for, but he’s great for the league and as long as he’s playing well he shouldn’t retire.

  6. This is one of a few substantive pieces of news that indicate that Brady is actually considering returning.

    I’m going to echo some of the responses on this page about “weapons.” Gronk screwed us by waiting until late into free agency to confirm he was NOT returning, and thus the Patriots missed out some some key possibilities. BB tried with Brown. And the cupboard was NOT bare. With that defense, there is little reason for them not contend deeper into the playoffs. If it was the offense that hurt the Patrios, Brady has as much culpability as BB, Kraft & McDaniels.

    It’s not a “build it, and you will come”, Tom. You want the team to be better, you are the guy who can make it better.

  7. johnnycantread says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:08 am

    Retire already.

    Why ????? He has so much fun torturing idiots like you. Brady said it himself “I have more to prove” Shutting the mouths of haters and excuse makers drives the man.

    On to 2020 and competing for a seventh title.

  8. harrisonhits2 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:23 am
    “Retire already.”

    the guy was 7th in the league in passing last season with a 3:1 TD to INT ratio and still one of the best QBs in the game. I know you’re tired of the Pats pounding whatever sad franchise you’re too embarrassed to identify that you cheer for, but he’s great for the league and as long as he’s playing well he shouldn’t retire.

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    He doesn’t root for any team. The point of the account is to hate not cheer. While most of us follow football for the joy it gives us and so our biggest emotion is rooting for the team that brings us the most…there are here and there those that follow football for the misery it gives them (like being unable to resist picking at a wound) so their biggest emotion is hatred for the team that brings them the most. Its a free country so there are no right or wrong answers, only preferences.

  9. tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:09 am
    bullcharger says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:50 am
    “Brady, 42, might be looking for more than a one-year deal as well as assurance that the Patriots will get him some better weapons, according to Guregian.”

    ————–

    The narrative hasn’t changed since Aug 2019.

    2 1 Rate This

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    Karen does a great job and I believe her word in that Brady is a snob and wants “better” weapons, but I am sorry….You cannot skip OTAs, act all insubordinate towards BB, disrespect your own teammates, the fans, etc, and then when it comes time to show up, you crap your pants. I am sorry. I don’t care if his name is Brady.

    Even if BB was to trade or sign a good WR option for Brady, will Brady show up to get to know his new teammate?

    How is this acceptable? If anyone needs to do the same hard work the player has done to become what he’s become, at his age now, it’s without question Brady.

    Hard work, routine, leadership, etc….It’s what made him.

    Passively-aggressively showing up your GM and Coach (BB) AFTER he did what you personally wanted (tried to trade for Sanu–>Brown–Sanu), is absolutely horrible leadership.

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    All I was saying is that insight was the same as the insight from August 2019. There’s no new information. I don’t think it’s wrong. Just completely obvious.

    But I also disagree with all your points on Brady. 😉 If that’s the way you see him, I just have to agree to disagree.

  10. tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am
    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

    So all the dropped balls were Brady’s fault too? Don’t see how you missed that one.

  11. tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am

    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

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    Decker wasn't on the 2015 Broncos. Osweiler/Peyton were throwing to Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas, both who at that point in their careers were very effective. They both had over 1K receiving yards in 2015 and both had been on the team prior to that season. That was a much better pass catching corps than the Pats last season.

    And Brady caught a lot of flak for his post Eagles SB off season yet still went out and helped lead the team to a SB win the next year. He's still a great leader who could use some pass catching upgrades around him.

  12. tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am
    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

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    You prove how little you know each and every day patrolling this board. Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?

  13. Anton Chigurh says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:34 am
    harrisonhits2 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:23 am
    “Retire already.”

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    He doesn’t root for any team. The point of the account is to hate not cheer. While most of us follow football for the joy it gives us and so our biggest emotion is rooting for the team that brings us the most…there are here and there those that follow football for the misery it gives them (like being unable to resist picking at a wound) so their biggest emotion is hatred for the team that brings them the most. Its a free country so there are no right or wrong answers, only preferences.

    ________________

    I root for any team that beats the Patriots…
    Except for the Patriots, that is. (The cliché “We beat ourselves today” excuse.)

  14. tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Even if BB was to trade or sign a good WR option for Brady, will Brady show up to get to know his new teammate?

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    Brady offered to have Josh Gordon come live in his house. That’s about as accommodating as you can get.

  15. You prove how little you know each and every day patrolling this board. Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?
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    This x1000. Is there anyone who knows less about the game of football than Ty? Its embarrassing at this point

  16. harrisonhits2 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:23 am
    “Retire already.”

    the guy was 7th in the league in passing last season with a 3:1 TD to INT ratio and still one of the best QBs in the game. I know you’re tired of the Pats pounding whatever sad franchise you’re too embarrassed to identify that you cheer for, but he’s great for the league and as long as he’s playing well he shouldn’t retire.

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    This is a classic case where the stats can be used to mislead someone because those stats, while not bad at all, don’t match the eye test. We all saw how it looked. Thats’s not Brady level. Period.

    Most QBs throw for 300 yards every week. The league is set up for offense. Do you not get this?

    All the rules favor offenses.

    Most QBs easily attain a 2:1 ratio which is the barometer. Brady’s is 4:1, not 3:1. And, this doesn’t even count the red zone production flaws or decision making or missing wide open guys.

    Lastly, I think the other element that is happening here, which would explain this “separation” mystery of JUST Pats WRs, including Sanu playing just fine with Atlanta, ans then coming to NE and then magi

    “Separation” is this little trigger word the Millennials were using last year. Hogan was the culprit last year, and then they flipped how they approached the offense, ran the ball more, protected old Brady and Brady thrived off of it. Once Brady wants to make it about him and passing a lot, he’s worse. It’s true. Every time they hunker down with the fundamentals, simplify the offense, etc, they’re better. But, this separation things is a myth. I also think there is something to the idea that the refs are letting defenders maul NEs’ receivers with no calls. Gronk flipped out on White in 2017 in Buffalo over it. He was wrong, but I know why he snapped. This is not new. It’s very mysterious as to why Sany all of a sudden gets “no separation” or why the fast/strong and athletic Harry cannot. Or the impressive, great route running Meyers can’t. Very suspicious. That’s another story, but Brady and McDaniels under-peforming as duo again is not.

    We’ve seen that before as we have with O’Brien and Brady in 2011 AFC title game and Super Bowl or even late in that year), for examaple. Horrendous playcalling and lack of cohesion running the offense.

  17. SWFLPC.INC says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:53 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am
    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

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    You prove how little you know each and every day patrolling this board. Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?

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    Umm, Edelman just caught 100 balls for 1000 yards. Demarius is soft and was overrated.

    How is Demarius better than Edelmam.

    You say “you prove how little you know”, yet I see someone with HORRIBLE comprehension skills.

    Unless you want to sell us on Demarius Thomas being better than Edelman, you lost this debate with a horrible counterpoint, walking right into it. Brady Homers need not apply.The ship sailed. He skipped two OTAs in a row and dipped in the quality of his play overall. It took him ALL of 2018 to be sold on the idea they need to run the ball MORE to help HIM. He finally capitulated and NE won the SB again. Again, not a coincidence. Once Brady sees it’s all about him and the ego gets too big, we see an under-performing BRady. It’s happened before. 2007, 2011, etc. He was horrendous in each title game that year and the D won those games. He then was barely middling in each SB. Again, we’ve seen it before. And then BB drafted JimmyG to tone the ego. Voila, old Brady returns.

    I would imagine in this contract will be a demand he ATTEND OTAs. Wouldn’t you? Oh, I think so. Or, there is no deal, Tommy.

    I’ll demolish you in a football debate. People like you don’t even get the concepts I am talking about here. LOL

  18. Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 10:01 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Even if BB was to trade or sign a good WR option for Brady, will Brady show up to get to know his new teammate?

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    Brady offered to have Josh Gordon come live in his house. That’s about as accommodating as you can get.

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    Why wasn’t this done for Harry? Why aren’t other WRs invited to his ranch in Montana or for workouts in LA?

    Hmm?

    What it shows is favoritism. Get it? HE’s not willing to put the work in with talent he sees as not up to his standards or s player that can make it easy on him/make him look good.

    This ties into his stupidity of teams KNOWING this and he DOES have favorites on the field.

    Get it?

    This is why both Flores and Vrabel rope-a-doped him. Get it?

  19. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 25, 2020 at 10:23 am
    You prove how little you know each and every day patrolling this board. Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?
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    This x1000. Is there anyone who knows less about the game of football than Ty? Its embarrassing at this point

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    Why amd I right then? Why is that I confronted Greg Bedard on email last year about these topics and was right again?

    Hmm?

    Why is it that what I say here, ends up being true MOST of the time if I have such little knowledge?

    Hmm?

  20. Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:52 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am

    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

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    Decker wasn't on the 2015 Broncos. Osweiler/Peyton were throwing to Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas, both who at that point in their careers were very effective. They both had over 1K receiving yards in 2015 and both had been on the team prior to that season. That was a much better pass catching corps than the Pats last season.

    And Brady caught a lot of flak for his post Eagles SB off season yet still went out and helped lead the team to a SB win the next year. He's still a great leader who could use some pass catching upgrades around him.

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    Ok?

    Decker was a very good X before Sanders took over. What's the point here? JimmyG had no issues working with Sanders this year.

    LOL!

    You people just keep walking into doors. Brady ASKED for Sanu last year. Asked that BB try to get him.

    When he was acquired, almost every talking head proclaimed NE was the favorite to get to the SB.

    lmao

    How'd that go?

    How did Brady looko vs MIami and Tenn with a loaded D and STs group?

  21. Only because he played with Peyton. Same with Julius Thomas. These guys were perennial pro bowlers with Peyton throwing them the ball. Now that he’s retired Julius can’t find a team that wants him and Demaryius is barely a factor.

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    SWFLPC.INC says:

    Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?

  22. bullcharger says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:45 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:09 am
    bullcharger says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:50 am
    “Brady, 42, might be looking for more than a one-year deal as well as assurance that the Patriots will get him some better weapons, according to Guregian.”

    ————–

    The narrative hasn’t changed since Aug 2019.

    2 1 Rate This

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    Karen does a great job and I believe her word in that Brady is a snob and wants “better” weapons, but I am sorry….You cannot skip OTAs, act all insubordinate towards BB, disrespect your own teammates, the fans, etc, and then when it comes time to show up, you crap your pants. I am sorry. I don’t care if his name is Brady.

    Even if BB was to trade or sign a good WR option for Brady, will Brady show up to get to know his new teammate?

    How is this acceptable? If anyone needs to do the same hard work the player has done to become what he’s become, at his age now, it’s without question Brady.

    Hard work, routine, leadership, etc….It’s what made him.

    Passively-aggressively showing up your GM and Coach (BB) AFTER he did what you personally wanted (tried to trade for Sanu–>Brown–Sanu), is absolutely horrible leadership.

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    All I was saying is that insight was the same as the insight from August 2019. There’s no new information. I don’t think it’s wrong. Just completely obvious.

    But I also disagree with all your points on Brady. 😉 If that’s the way you see him, I just have to agree to disagree.

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    Why do you think he’s the only QB who is passively-aggressively skips OTAs SINCE he didn’t get some homerun contract until 45 and BB asked that Guererro not undermine the training staff>

    Can you answer this?

    Could it be ego?

    I have to point this out to Brady Fanboy friends and family because they don’t want to admit Brady isn’t perfect and is prone to the primadonna syndrome. It’s unrealistic and insulting to every real fan’s intelligence to pretend, in the Cap Era, that Brady is entitled to an All Star cast of weaponry simply because of who he is.

    This was NOWHERE near 2006, 2013 or 2015 lacking of weapons level. Nowhere near it.

  23. tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 10:33 am
    SWFLPC.INC says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:53 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am
    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

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    You prove how little you know each and every day patrolling this board. Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?

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    Umm, Edelman just caught 100 balls for 1000 yards. Demarius is soft and was overrated.

    How is Demarius better than Edelmam.

    You say “you prove how little you know”, yet I see someone with HORRIBLE comprehension skills.

    Unless you want to sell us on Demarius Thomas being better than Edelman, you lost this debate with a horrible counterpoint, walking right into it

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    First, we are comparing Edelman last season to Thomas when he played with Manning. That was your comparison. And the numbers speak for themselves but since you are slow, let’s review:

    Pro Bowl…..Thomas
    1600 yards……Thomas
    11 TDs…..Thomas

    I rest my case. And to the rest of your screed, you don’t know jack-sh!t and you prove it daily. You are a BB homer and try to act as if you have personal conversations with him and know his inner thoughts. You don’t.

    And as for the OTAs, how do you explain Brady winning the SB when he did not attend OTAs? And here is the thing…..OTAs are “optional”. Get it?

  24. Funny how every time BB made a personnel move all the Patriots fans said what a brilliant move it was…until it backfired. If part of Brady’s wishes are to get more help on offense BB won’t like the fact someone is questioning all his brilliant personnel moves and that will likely be the end of Brady with the Patriots.

  25. tylawspick6 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am

    How is Demarius better than Edelmam.

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    2015 Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders combined were much better than Edelman and whoever from last year. Its not hard.

  26. Why amd I right then? Why is that I confronted Greg Bedard on email last year about these topics and was right again?

    Hmm?

    Why is it that what I say here, ends up being true MOST of the time if I have such little knowledge?

    Hmm?
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    Why is it that an overwhelming majority of football insiders agree Brady lacked offensive weapons last year? Why is it that the Pats receivers were atop the league in drops? Why were they ranked near the top in separation? These aren’t Brady “fanboys” just saying these things. Everyone is. Is everyone else wrong and you right?

    You also might want to ask one of your millennial buddies to borrow a calculator because the math is way off. “Most QBs throw for 300 yards a game” would translate into ~4,800 yards a season….yet Brady was 7th last year with under 4,100 yards. He also had 24 TDs to 8 INTs, which is exactly a 3:1 ratio, not 4:1.

  27. tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:52 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am

    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

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    Decker wasn't on the 2015 Broncos. Osweiler/Peyton were throwing to Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas, both who at that point in their careers were very effective. They both had over 1K receiving yards in 2015 and both had been on the team prior to that season. That was a much better pass catching corps than the Pats last season.

    And Brady caught a lot of flak for his post Eagles SB off season yet still went out and helped lead the team to a SB win the next year. He's still a great leader who could use some pass catching upgrades around him.

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    Ok?

    Decker was a very good X before Sanders took over. What's the point here? JimmyG had no issues working with Sanders this year.

    LOL!

    You people just keep walking into doors. Brady ASKED for Sanu last year. Asked that BB try to get him.

    When he was acquired, almost every talking head proclaimed NE was the favorite to get to the SB.

    lmao

    How'd that go?

    How did Brady looko vs MIami and Tenn with a loaded D and STs group?

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    Uh, you still haven't shown how the 2015 Broncos pass catchers were worse than the top 5 in drops last year Pats group. And the Pats wanted Sanders first but balked at the asking price. Walking into doors indeed.

    And that "loaded D and STs group" gave up 340pass yds to Miami and 182ru yd to Tenn. Hardly one of their good performances.

  28. fritz96 says:
    February 25, 2020 at 10:49 am
    Only because he played with Peyton. Same with Julius Thomas. These guys were perennial pro bowlers with Peyton throwing them the ball. Now that he’s retired Julius can’t find a team that wants him and Demaryius is barely a factor.

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    SWFLPC.INC says:

    Thomas earned 3 pro bowls with over 1400 yards twice and 1600 the third time. He also caught 10, 14 and 11 TDs in those three seasons. Which Patriot receiver from last year even came close to those accomplishments?

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    Who is better? Brady with just 2 binkies or Brady the QB with a good run game and no one know where it is going?

    See, this is what I mean with Millennials and looking at fantasy stats. Give me 11 Edelmans over 11 Demarius Thomas’s all day, everyday, right into consideration for the HOF.

    But, it doesn’t counter the concept I am talking about.

    Brady would have been a better QB this year, if Edelman has lesser stats. Get it?

    Of course you don’t. To proclaim Brady doesn’t have good weaponry is a joke, save for 2006, 2009 or 2013, injuries no included.

    There’s been very few years where you can make an argument he didn’t have enough to go around. And, with that RB group? My goodnes, 1-4, it was the best in the conference.

    Damine Harris from Alabama under Saban couldn’t even dress! That’s how loaded they were at RB.

    Compare Brady’s RB options in 2015 to this past year, for example. And that was with Edelman on one foot and only binky Gronk as a top option that year.

    LOL

    You people will never understand the sport. It’s way, way above you because you grew up playing video games and fantasy football, so you missed all the learning about the sport.

    Brady won 3 SBs with Deion Branch as a #1 WR. Edelman is better than Branch. And, no way on earth you can sell me as UDFA cast off PAtten is better than Harry or Sanu and Givens in the same way. No way. You either weren’t old enough to remmember how generic those guys were at WR or a such a Brady Fanboy, this discussion cannot possibly go further.

  29. Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 11:19 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 9:52 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 25, 2020 at 8:54 am

    This is really up to Brady.

    Peyton Manning worked with DemArius Thomas and someone ike Eric Decker on the outside in his last year in

    Those two are not better than the receiving weapons Brady had last year, in particular down the stretch.

    There’s just no excuse for a lack of a rapport with Meyers or ignoring Harry as much as he did late in the year.

    I remember when they got Sanu thinking how over-targeted Sanu to get a rapport developed, which is fine, but he never went back to using Meyers. Meyers then got tight, as did Harry, and Brady eliminated 2 weapons he should have been using. JimmyG had no issues using new WRs in SF< for example.

    Go look at the production by inferior QBs who worked with new QBs, including rookies. Brady was by far the worst.

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    Decker wasn't on the 2015 Broncos. Osweiler/Peyton were throwing to Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas, both who at that point in their careers were very effective. They both had over 1K receiving yards in 2015 and both had been on the team prior to that season. That was a much better pass catching corps than the Pats last season.

    And Brady caught a lot of flak for his post Eagles SB off season yet still went out and helped lead the team to a SB win the next year. He's still a great leader who could use some pass catching upgrades around him.

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    Ok?

    Decker was a very good X before Sanders took over. What's the point here? JimmyG had no issues working with Sanders this year.

    LOL!

    You people just keep walking into doors. Brady ASKED for Sanu last year. Asked that BB try to get him.

    When he was acquired, almost every talking head proclaimed NE was the favorite to get to the SB.

    lmao

    How'd that go?

    How did Brady looko vs MIami and Tenn with a loaded D and STs group?

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    Uh, you still haven't shown how the 2015 Broncos pass catchers were worse than the top 5 in drops last year Pats group. And the Pats wanted Sanders first but balked at the asking price. Walking into doors indeed.

    And that "loaded D and STs group" gave up 340pass yds to Miami and 182ru yd to Tenn. Hardly one of their good performances.

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    Excuse me? Maybe the D wouldn't be so gassed all the time holding teams to 11-14 points every week if the offense simply woke up?! My goodness. It's so easy to tell who played sports and who didn't. The D won like 10 out of the 12 games on the schedule. Short fields, turnovers galore, etc. What more could Brady have wanted??! LOL

    Everything was set up to help his aging behind.

    Are you kdding me here? This is what I mean with you Millennials. It's about complementary football. I'll take BB's word for it over yours, thanks very much. I agree with BB, you don't. Well, you'd be wrong then.

    When BB took that headset off in the MImai game before half, after the gift 6 points Brady gave Miami, it's all I needed to know. Even he had it with Brady's antics.

    As far as who the first choice was and this ans that, Brady was gushing over Sanu after BB acquired him. And, if Brady wanted Sanders FIRST, why did BB try to get Sanu for Brady LAST SPRING, Einstein?

    Walking into doors indeed.

    This is an offensive era. Fact. Not an opinion, a fact. The D slams the door last February allowing 3 points in a SB which is an outlier example for this era. It was incredible.

    Then they come out this year, setting records left and right, DPOY in Gilmore, rookies can't even get on the field due to how loaded they are, and Brady squanders a loaded RB backfield to boot.

    Just inexplicable and unacceptable leadership from the QB. Period.

  30. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 25, 2020 at 11:13 am
    Why amd I right then? Why is that I confronted Greg Bedard on email last year about these topics and was right again?

    Hmm?

    Why is it that what I say here, ends up being true MOST of the time if I have such little knowledge?

    Hmm?
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    Why is it that an overwhelming majority of football insiders agree Brady lacked offensive weapons last year? Why is it that the Pats receivers were atop the league in drops? Why were they ranked near the top in separation? These aren’t Brady “fanboys” just saying these things. Everyone is. Is everyone else wrong and you right?

    You also might want to ask one of your millennial buddies to borrow a calculator because the math is way off. “Most QBs throw for 300 yards a game” would translate into ~4,800 yards a season….yet Brady was 7th last year with under 4,100 yards. He also had 24 TDs to 8 INTs, which is exactly a 3:1 ratio, not 4:1.

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    Umm, are these the same people who provlaimed NE was the favorite AFTER they acquired Sanu?

    LOL!

    It’s all about ratings, dopey. Brady is the nice guy, BB the bad guy. This is not new. The media wants access to Brady, so they kiss his butt and blow smoke. Brady could throw 8 INTS ina game and take a dump on the 50 yard line in the waning seconds, and some fans would act like it never happened. lmao

    Brady has escaped accountability from our own fans for years and years. The media, too.

    What’s he going to do, sign with the Raiders ans then skip OTAs there, too? bawaha

    BB had to draft JimmyG to threaten Brady’s horrible or middling postseason play from 2007-2012. It was the elephant in the room.

    Just constant horrible managemenr of the offense. Constant shotgun spreads, racing to 40+ passes every game vs good defenses? Remember? Why? Brady’s ego.

    Once that ego was reined back in by the drafting of JimmyG, Brady immediately worked harder and didn’t want to lose his job. Guess what? It worked! Thanks BB! Thank you for everything you’ve provided for Brady in the best winning environment in sports history.

  31. Still waiting for the reason you think 2015 era DThomas and ESanders would have been a down grade for the Pats pass catching group last year. And guess you forgot the Patriots actually had an agreement with ESanders when he was a free agent but then got outbid at the last moment by Denver. And ESanders last year and overall is plainly a better WR than Sanu, stats back it up.

    Also obviously Pats D was great last year but would’ve been nice if they showed up in the 4th qtr against Miami to give Pats the bye. Getting torched by Fitzmagic was a bit embarrassing. And the defensive dominance faded a bit in the second half of season as the opponents got better.

    And Pats rushing attack was much worse this past year (18th yd/gm) than in 2018 (5th yd/gm) with mostly the same personnel. Odd to pump their tires so enthusiastically. They were just an ok rushing team this year. Nothing special. Missing Gronk, Develin and their starting center Andrews was a big part of it.

  32. It’s all about ratings, dopey. Brady is the nice guy, BB the bad guy. This is not new. The media wants access to Brady, so they kiss his butt and blow smoke. Brady could throw 8 INTS ina game and take a dump on the 50 yard line in the waning seconds, and some fans would act like it never happened. lmao
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    Just when you thought Ty couldn’t get any wackier. Now, anyone saying Brady had no weapons or his receivers couldn’t get separation is because of…..wait for it…..ratings. Forget the fact that the stats prove those things, its all about ratings.

    Here’s a fact…..BB is a sub .500 coach without Brady as his QB. Over a 20 year period, they definitely needed each other at certain points to achieve this success, but we’ve seen BB without Brady….and its not pretty.

  33. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 25, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    It’s all about ratings, dopey. Brady is the nice guy, BB the bad guy. This is not new. The media wants access to Brady, so they kiss his butt and blow smoke. Brady could throw 8 INTS ina game and take a dump on the 50 yard line in the waning seconds, and some fans would act like it never happened. lmao
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    Just when you thought Ty couldn’t get any wackier. Now, anyone saying Brady had no weapons or his receivers couldn’t get separation is because of…..wait for it…..ratings. Forget the fact that the stats prove those things, its all about ratings.

    Here’s a fact…..BB is a sub .500 coach without Brady as his QB. Over a 20 year period, they definitely needed each other at certain points to achieve this success, but we’ve seen BB without Brady….and its not pretty.

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    I didn’t say THAT was about rating. I said Goodell is a cheter and does not want NE to continue winning, which is why all these creepy calls go against NE with no repercussions or anyone caring, because 95% of the fanbases are rooting against NE.

    It’s very suspicious AND stupid to think BB didn’t do his homeowork looking at gamefilm from Sanu in Atlanta before trading for him. All of a sudden he has “separation” issues and BB is senile for trading for him?

    bawhahaa!

  34. Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 25, 2020 at 12:45 pm
    Still waiting for the reason you think 2015 era DThomas and ESanders would have been a down grade for the Pats pass catching group last year. And guess you forgot the Patriots actually had an agreement with ESanders when he was a free agent but then got outbid at the last moment by Denver. And ESanders last year and overall is plainly a better WR than Sanu, stats back it up.

    Also obviously Pats D was great last year but would’ve been nice if they showed up in the 4th qtr against Miami to give Pats the bye. Getting torched by Fitzmagic was a bit embarrassing. And the defensive dominance faded a bit in the second half of season as the opponents got better.

    And Pats rushing attack was much worse this past year (18th yd/gm) than in 2018 (5th yd/gm) with mostly the same personnel. Odd to pump their tires so enthusiastically. They were just an ok rushing team this year. Nothing special. Missing Gronk, Develin and their starting center Andrews was a big part of it.

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    Where did I say 2015 Denver WRs would be a downgrade? I said what Manning had as he got older is comparable to what Brady had this year.

    And, NE’s RB group was clearly superior to what Manning had in 2015.

    You just don’t seem to get it.

    Why should we HAVE to expect our D to bail out Brady and the crap offense every week, though?

    Why do they need to pitch shutouts or goal line stands? This is the question. It’s an offensive era, so it is EMBARRASSING Fitz can move the ball and Brady can’t. That’s the point!

    LOL!

    You just keep walking into it and don’t even realize it.

    To boot, Brady handed them 6 points as even Eric Rowe knew. If Brady isn’t a total moron there, NE wins.

    Remember in 2011 when they coudn’t even get pasy mid field in the entire vs half vs MIami at home? I bet that was somehow the Ds fault, too, right?

    Offensive era. Rules favor offenses. This is not an opinion, this is a fact under the Goodell Regime.

    We have the GOAT and he’s unable to simply move the offense into FG range? Really? This is your defense of him?

    Pretending 2015 Manning was surrounded by better talent? Bawhaha. Abawhhaha

    Yes, Ronnie Hillman is vastly superior to JAmes White/Burkhead. CJ Anderson is miles ahead of Sony Michel (Arguable offensive MVP of last year’s postseason after Edelman).

    bawahah

    abwahaha

    Tell us more! You’re so good at debating, after all.

  35. The funny part is p6 actually THINKS he’s the smartest. guy in the room. If only Brady had attended OTA’s, lol.

  36. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 25, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    It’s all about ratings, dopey. Brady is the nice guy, BB the bad guy. This is not new. The media wants access to Brady, so they kiss his butt and blow smoke. Brady could throw 8 INTS ina game and take a dump on the 50 yard line in the waning seconds, and some fans would act like it never happened. lmao
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    Just when you thought Ty couldn’t get any wackier. Now, anyone saying Brady had no weapons or his receivers couldn’t get separation is because of…..wait for it…..ratings. Forget the fact that the stats prove those things, its all about ratings.

    Here’s a fact…..BB is a sub .500 coach without Brady as his QB. Over a 20 year period, they definitely needed each other at certain points to achieve this success, but we’ve seen BB without Brady….and its not pretty.

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    LMAO

    BB had a horrible first gig in Cleveland and still had them as SB contenders.

    Matt Cassel, 11-5 in 2008. Case closed. JimmyG development, winner. Case closed.

    BB drafted and developed Brady. Do you think Bledsoe was happy knowing BB was feverishly working with Brady to get him up to speed in 2001? I don’t think so.

    Guess what? Tom Brady owes like 50% of hisc areer to BB the GM and Coach. No one has been better in both capacities than BB in the Cap Era. No one. It’s not even remotely close in any capacity.

    And in 2007 and 2011, two years were Brady crapepd the bed in the postseason, the Ds got them to both SBs and played very, very well, certainly enough to win those games, close to Brady and the offense’s ceilings.

    It’s beyond insulting to know BB’s brilliance will Brady was popping zits on his face, a full 20 years into BB’s NFL career, and to try to spin it as if Brady was some top 10 draft pick that fell into BB’s lap.

    You’re people are so dumb.

    BB without Brady has gameplans on the HOF in Canton or exhibitions on how to temabuild in Cleveland for cap health and progress every year, leading Baltimore into 2 1st rd picks in 1996, one of them Ray Lewis, not to mention a Pro Bowl nod for Testaverde.

    Go ask the players who played for BB and those who didn’t and then look at their success or even Parcells with and without BB.

    Case re-opened and closed for good, little guy.

  37. The funny part is p6 actually THINKS he’s the smartest. guy in the room. If only Brady had attended OTA’s, lol.
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    I’d throw a couple of dollars in his empty McD’s coffee cup just out of pity. Although people on the street are actually more coherent then he is.

  38. If 2015 Peyton Manning woke up with the 2019 Pats receivers he would have been inconsolable and certainly NOT won the Super Bowl that year.. Again, 2015 DThomas and ESanders and co were much better unit than 2019 Edeleman and co. Irrefutable. You have provided no proof otherwise.

    And the 2015 Denver team that got 19 TDS and 23ints out of the QB position and STILL WON THE SUPER BOWL. I think having a great defense and two 1K receivers helped overcome that weak QB play a bit. And fun how you interchange the 2018 and 2019 Pats rushing attack when the results were so wildly different between the years.

  39. BB had a horrible first gig in Cleveland and still had them as SB contenders.

    Matt Cassel, 11-5 in 2008. Case closed. JimmyG development, winner. Case closed.

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    Ah the old “system” argument. BB is only 18-19 as Pats head coach without Brady starting. 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl. Bledsoe, Jimmy G, Cassel all had better seasons AFTER leaving the BB Pats. And the Cassel year was a 5 game drop off against one of the easiest schedules in the NFL that year (29th in strength of schedule).

  40. LMAO

    BB had a horrible first gig in Cleveland and still had them as SB contenders.

    Matt Cassel, 11-5 in 2008. Case closed. JimmyG development, winner. Case closed.
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    Lolz SB contenders? They won one playoff game then got waxed by Pitt 29-9 in the second round of the playoffs. Although this from the guy who said Jimmy G was well on his way to winning the division after playing less than 6 quarters of football. Jimmy G is so good his playoff stat line is 37/58, 2 TDs, 3 INTs and a less than 150 yards/game average. Time for some tea and nap grandpa.

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