Report: Patriots haven’t reached out to Tom Brady yet

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The Patriots are the only team that can talk to Tom Brady about a contract right now without violating tampering rules, but a report on Thursday indicates that they haven’t been doing that.

Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald reports that the Patriots have not reached out to Brady to discuss a new contract at this point. Guregian adds, via a source, that the chances of the quarterback staying put are “not looking good.”

That’s not the only bit of reporting casting doubt on Brady remaining with the Patriots on Thursday. Jeff Darlington of ESPN reported on the air that Brady has told people close to him that it is “not happening” in New England and that he expects to go somewhere else to continue his playing career.

There’s still a good bit of time to go before any move to another team can happen, which means there’s also a good bit of time for the Patriots and Brady to get together about a new pact once they know where things stand with the Collective Bargaining Agreement. That won’t matter if Brady is set on hitting the open market for the first time in his career, of course, and we’re inching closer to finding out if that’s the case.

84 responses to “Report: Patriots haven’t reached out to Tom Brady yet

  1. He won’t sign with the Pats before FA opens. He will negotiate with other teams and give the Pats a chance to match or beat the offer.

    If he did in fact say what the article says, that actually hurts him in negotiations with other teams as the Pats would not longer be a suitor. Other teams wouldn’t have to worry about Pats making an offer. Not a smart thing to tell people if true

  2. Brady will sign with the Raiders, the Bears will trade for Derek Carr, the Colts will sign Teddy Bridgewater, the Chargers will sign Marcus Mariota, the Bucs will sign Philip Rivers, the Titans will re sign Tannehill, and the Patriots will sign Jacoby Brissett after he’s released.

  3. Brady will be chasing a seventh title in New England in 2020. He loves to torture the haters and excuse makers.

  4. Brady helped build a legacy for himself and the Patriots which sets them apart from every other team. If he’s done there, I really don’t understand why he doesn’t just ride off into the sunset. He has nothing left to prove, except that he’s getting too old to play.

  5. Lolz the Herald is the worst of the local news organizations, and has the least connections to the Pats. This guy is just throwing out whatever he thinks will get him attention and clicks but I doubt there’s any basis in fact to it.

    And even if Brady does go such is life. I and most Pats fans will simply wish him luck unless he’s playing against the Pats. We will remain Brady fans.

  6. Adios Tom. Hang up the cleats. Back up qb at best at this point. Nobody wants to watch you fall to the ground when you throw it to avoid hits. It is over.

  7. If at this point they a haven’t started a discussion on a contract there is no interest in having him back. Anything else is just burring your head in the sand.

  8. My scenario: Pats sign Brady, then, trade Brady to Bengals plus picks and players to the Bengals for the #1 pick. Then, draft Burrow.

  9. You’d think the deal would be done, but if Brady makes the mistake of his life, or….or….Wait for it….BB has ALREADY made the decision.

    2 OTAs skipped in a row, whining about Guerrero, showing up new teammates, favoring teammates over others, refusing to work with some teammates in the same, committed way, etc.

    I repeat: BB worked with JimmyG EVERYDAY and it MOTIVATED Brady. We saw the results. 3 SB rings in 4 tries. Another dynasty formed, but those SBs were won as much with D as it was with offense.

    When you have a star player accomplish this much with a big ego, how do you motivate said player?

    See?

    Brady says one thing to the public, and then we learn about other things that are very disappointing to read later on.

    Why didn’t Brady have the fire lit under him last year when Stidham broke all of Brayd and then JimmyGs preseason records? Yes, I realize it’s preseason, but it’s still an apples to apples comparison.

    Why did Stidham love throwing to Meyers, but Brady didn’t?

    Why would BB weaken the finances to the D with a 43 year old QB? Why was Brady so bad with the #1 D and top STs unit helping the offense constantly?

    If you mentally check out as a pro athlete, that’s it. Brady may have checked out and the fact is, even he gets giddy going to some new team willing to overpay him, he will immediately find the owner, GM, Coach and TEAM to be worse, wherever that is.

    Maybe he shouldn’t have skipped OTAs and made such a big deal about his obsessive things like GUerrero and TB12? Why not wait until you retire to pimp that stuff?

  10. Wasn’t the whole premise “Tom is going to check the market, but we want him back” according to Kraft?

    If the market is not officially open, then that has not started yet.

    There’s been a couple of “Brady to ___ & Brady a candidate for ___.” Sounds like Tommy boy’s camp is trying to gin up some buzz before the starting bell sounds. Or the backchannel chats are leaking.

  11. GoodellMustGo says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:09 am
    Not buying it. He isn’t going anywhere.

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    Well then, why isn’t he signed?

    Seems sort of simple, doesn’t it?

  12. If the whole point of Brady wanting to be free to test the market with his last agreement why would he resign with the Patriots before you know testing the market?

    As a Patriots fan I want him to return and will be hugely disappointed if he does not. Lets wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.

  13. MightyMidwest says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:49 am
    Wasn’t the whole premise “Tom is going to check the market, but we want him back” according to Kraft?

    If the market is not officially open, then that has not started yet.

    There’s been a couple of “Brady to ___ & Brady a candidate for ___.” Sounds like Tommy boy’s camp is trying to gin up some buzz before the starting bell sounds. Or the backchannel chats are leaking.

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    1. Kraft is covering his butt.
    2. There is no question tampering occurs in this league BEFORE FA opens.

    You’re welcome.

  14. willycents says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:46 am
    My scenario: Pats sign Brady, then, trade Brady to Bengals plus picks and players to the Bengals for the #1 pick. Then, draft Burrow.

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    LOL

    That would be like when BB dumped greedy Mankins down to TB at the end of his career x1000.

    I wouldn’t put it past him, but Brady would probably just retire to block that trade rather than move to Cincy. lol

  15. It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

  16. willycents says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:46 am
    My scenario: Pats sign Brady, then, trade Brady to Bengals plus picks and players to the Bengals for the #1 pick. Then, draft Burrow
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    Tell me about the biggest salary cap hit in the NFL after they do that.

  17. tylawspick6 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:47 am
    You’d think the deal would be done, but if Brady makes the mistake of his life, or….or….Wait for it….BB has ALREADY made the decision.
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    You said it yourself, what if BB already made his decision, why are the hate on Brady then? Brady isn’t the only one with an ego, ergo the head coach. Who else knowingly breaks rules back on spy gate? Do you recall him sticking up for Tom in Framegate II, nope, he just simply made it clear it had nothing to do with him.
    BB has been a great defensive mind in the NFL, and churns the bottom half of the roster like no other, but in all the SB title runs with Brady, there are numerous games ‘his’ defense hasn’t done squat in the playoffs and SBs, and others where I feel they did enough and the offense failed.
    And you’ve got to stop comparing a Rookie throwing to Undrafted players to a 19year vet, it doesn’t happen. There’s a reason in real games when the starting QB goes down and the backup comes in and all of a sudden the # 4 or 5th option seem to play better, they get more reps with the back up. Meyers May turn out to be pretty good, but no way he gets reps with Brady ahead of Edelman, Gordon, Dorsett, Lacosse, Izzo, etc in the preseason.
    As for the article and no contract to date, didn’t both Brady and team negotiate a prior deal so he would hit FA for the first time in his career? Yet here we are surprised that he is slated to hit FA? Hopefully he signs a 2 year 50-55mil sea and BB picks another couple weapons on offense for him. Stidham isn’t ready and yes, I agree With you wholeheartedly Brady should attend OTAs.

  18. Nothing wrong with the Stidham era beginning next season. The only remaining question with Stidham is how old will he be when he wins his sixth Super Bowl ring with the Pats? 29, 30, or 31?

  19. C says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:41 am
    If at this point they a haven’t started a discussion on a contract there is no interest in having him back. Anything else is just burring your head in the sand.

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    The Brady Fanboys are struggling to read the tea leaves because they’re in denial and act like children. It’s unreal how stubborn they are not even considering the things I am mentioning above. At the end of the day, BB is still the guy who calls the shots, is a master of getting out 1 year too early than too late, and watches his players VERY closely in practice everyday.

    So, it’s possible, Brady’s best level of play ended in SB 52 vs Philly, and then has slowly faded. The numbers show that. And, when he doesn’t have a HOF caliber passing option, at least TWO of them (MOss/Welker, Gronk/Welker, Gronk/Edelman), look at what he does during a season. He’s not as good, he whines, complains, pouts at the podium, etc.

    If you see his overall play the last 2 years, he’s needed a top notch run game to be Brady. There’s nothing wrong with that at age 42, in fact, that and a top flight D is clearly the plan from BB to support Brady in his last years.

    Fast forward to this season:

    1. BB tried to trade for Sanu last spring. Price too high, it’s VERY likely the 2nd rd pick price was the price and BB finally got him around Halloween. But, Sanu was a Brady favorite. They tried to draft him in 2012 as well. This is a fact.

    2. BB sees Brady working overtime with Antonio Brown, but Brady skipped OTAs with Harry and Meyers as rookies.

    I am sorry, but this is a HORRIBLE look as a leader on the heels of skipping a team session of getting to know people, doing some drills, talking to your teammates, etc.

    Every season is brand new. Every team starts over. If your own QB is not there, what message does that send?

    BB will make concessions to some veterans who ask for special privileges, where their families may be across the country, etc, but if Brady says “I need more time with my family” and then is caught playing golf with pro golfers one day, while his team is at OTAs, that’s an absolutely horrendous look.

    That’s the equivalent of me skipping a team building function at work and then be seen at the bowling alley drinking beer with my friends while that is happening.

    There’s no way around it. Like, is he going to do that again this year? I am sure BB is wondering about that. Will Brady invite these good looking young WRs to his Montana ranch with Edelman? Or, will they be marginalized and left behind?

  20. If they truly aren’t going to bring him back then they are stupid. That offense couldn’t beat a Pop Warner team without Brady. I’m sure BB doesn’t want to spend the money to keep him because he thinks he’s such a genius. Well, Brady is the genius. BB will find that out soon enough if he decides TB is no longer needed.

  21. As a Pats fan, once Brady decided to see what he could command on the open market, this became more Belichick driven. He’s either told Tom they are moving on from him, or to come back when he has his best offer and they’ll talk then. No need to talk before that time.

  22. Kraft said Brady wanted his freedom and that he deserved it. The Patriots also let Hightower hit free agency a few years ago and then made a deal with him. I think the Patriots are going to let Brady become a free agent because that’s what Brady wants. Then once Brady truly sees what is possible they will come back together and try to work out a deal. I know that’s not the best for the salary cap, but I think that’s what Kraft thinks is best for all parties.

  23. #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    Exactly. He’s essentially doing more pouting and making a scene for the ego stroke. BB knows it.

    What I want to know is, if he was to leave, will he skip his new team’s OTAs for “more family time”?

  24. #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    That’s exactly the opposite of everything Brady says. He doesn’t care about any of that. He just wants to play and wants to win. If he can do that for the Patriots he definitely will.

  25. spacedive1 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:22 am

    Brady helped build a legacy for himself and the Patriots which sets them apart from every other team. If he’s done there, I really don’t understand why he doesn’t just ride off into the sunset. He has nothing left to prove, except that he’s getting too old to play.
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    I dont think he wants his last pass ever to be a pick 6.

  26. bullcharger says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:50 am
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    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    That’s exactly the opposite of everything Brady says. He doesn’t care about any of that. He just wants to play and wants to win. If he can do that for the Patriots he definitely will.

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    That does depend on the Patriots though… if they aren’t willing to invest in the offense in a way that Brady thinks is needed for him to win, or they aren’t willing to ensure Brady will be the starter for a few more years then maybe he won’t go back.

  27. “The Patriots are the only team that can talk to Tom Brady about a contract right now without violating tampering rules, but a report on Thursday indicates that they haven’t been doing that.”

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    That’s because they have been talking to his agent instead.

  28. bullcharger says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:50 am
    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    That’s exactly the opposite of everything Brady says. He doesn’t care about any of that. He just wants to play and wants to win. If he can do that for the Patriots he definitely will.

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    So, why isn’t he signed at 25 mil right now for 2 years?

    If it’s such a slam dunk, and you believe his statement, what is the problem?

  29. BB has been inscrutable for 25 years. Why expect different now.

    The only opinion in Foxboro concerning team roster and operations is BB’s.

  30. As I’ve said all along, both sides are ready to move on. It’s an amicable split, but Brady doesn’t want to play there anymore, and except for Kraft’s sentimentality, the Pats are good with Brady moving on. Thanks for the memories. At least it’s a good year to get a bridge QB. If only Brady showed up for those OTA’s, none of this woulda happened, lol

  31. jjackwagon says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:53 am
    The only remaining question with Stidham is, will the Pats ever get back to the Superbowl?

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    Did you see how poorly Brady played at times last year and in his last 2 games at home?

    I mean, how likely would it be that Stidham would be as bad or worse than that? Would Stidham distribute the ball properly or would he check out of runs, into passes, and stare down binkies only?

    LOL

    I mean, Brady has fallen into this rut before which is WHY BB drafted JimmyG. He got sick and tired of watching the offense ruin SB runs.

  32. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 11:08 am

    So, why isn’t he signed at 25 mil right now for 2 years?

    If it’s such a slam dunk, and you believe his statement, what is the problem?

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    He wants more offensive skill position help. Its not hard.

  33. Over the years, I’ve heard many say that BB is such a great coach, with such a great plug and play system, that you could put anyone in at QB and win. I’ve been of the line of thought that with a great quarterback, any coach is great. Without a great quarterback, not so much.

    I think their respective egos just might lead to Brady playing elsewhere, with Brady trying to show it was him, not BB, and BB the reverse.

    Age is catching up with Tom Brady, I don’t understand the idea of a team bringing him in for QB play….not only is he in decline, but also the most a team will realistically get is a year or two. As Florio says, business decision could drive it rather than football.

  34. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 9:55 am

    GoodellMustGo says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:09 am
    Not buying it. He isn’t going anywhere.

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    Well then, why isn’t he signed?

    Seems sort of simple, doesn’t it?

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    He wants more offensive talent around him, seems sort of simple, doesn’t it?

    Winning is fun and helps his brand, having more weapons helps winning, staying is the easiest path, therefore: he’s waiting to see what the Pats do to build up the offense.

    Not hard.

  35. I think that they will find an Andy Dalton, or Marcus Mariota, at a good deal and then add pieces that they won’t have the luxury to do with a $30 mill-1/2 year QB contract. Brady will still be very good, but he can no longer carry the offense. There has been a regression over the last two years and I wouldn’t bet on him being better this year, but he will still be one of the better QB’s in the league.

    Knowing how Belichick has been historically with vets in free agency, I could see him sign Andy Dalton at half the price to be able to add to lineup, resign Van Noy, tag/extend McCourty, and they will compete for the Super Bowl while trying to find the next Tom Brady.

  36. Yeah, I’m sure Tom Brady didnt know exactly the contract he has on the table months ago and after all these years has no idea at all what the Patriots are doing.

  37. THis game of chicken is perplexing and one they might not be able to recover from. Even as a jet fan I don’t get it. TB should be reveled as a god for what he has done for the Pats and the Krafts. After 20 years he gets 1 season to crap the bed before a change should be made

  38. Like another poster already said it’s gonna be one of 2 teams and the Patriots aren’t one of them. It’s the Chargers or the Raiders and I think it’s gonna be Vegas. Gruden loves Brady and has said numerous times that Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time, and think of how much bigger Tom’s TB12 brand could be if he showed up in Vegas, and what would happen if Tom went there and brought that team to a Superbowl. Oh my lord the haters would go so ballistic the Internet would crash… can’t wait I hope it happens 👍

  39. “Vegas has no state tax, pretty enticing.”

    Brady and his wife are worth over 3/4 of a billion at this point, I don’t think he’s too concerned with state taxes as a factor in his decision.

  40. And, when he doesn’t have a HOF caliber passing option, at least TWO of them (MOss/Welker, Gronk/Welker, Gronk/Edelman), look at what he does during a season. He’s not as good, he whines, complains, pouts at the podium, etc.
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    In 2017, Brady won the MVP and threw for over 500 yards in the SB…….Edelman played 0 games that year with a torn ACL

    In 2016, Brady was top 3 in MVP voting (only having played 12 games) and won the SB. Gronk played in half the games that year due to injury (and missed post season).

    As I’ve mentioned earlier, is there anyone who knows less than Ty?

  41. mymanotis says:
    February 27, 2020 at 12:30 pm
    THis game of chicken is perplexing and one they might not be able to recover from. Even as a jet fan I don’t get it. TB should be reveled as a god for what he has done for the Pats and the Krafts. After 20 years he gets 1 season to crap the bed before a change should be made

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    And, honestly, that is why you are a Jets fan.

    If Woody Johnson was not such an incredible moron, realized BB’s worth, realized why Kraft was offering a 1st rder, could have done what Kraft did, had BB as GM and Coach of the Jets, drafted and developed Brady, you might have been seeing why Brady became so great.

    Parcells was a middling NFL coach without BB running his Ds.

    The stulidity to think a 6th rd pick would have gone to a different GM or coach in the nfl in 2000 and had the same success, is absolutely beyond belief stupid.

    BB made Brady. Not the other way around.

    Brady knows this, too. He may have gotten a real shot and been a good qb elsewhere or he may not have at all. The latter is more likely for a lowly sought after NCAA prospect who kept losing his job to Drew Henson.

    Environment matters. As a Jets fan, you should know this fact very well.

  42. Well, so here we go. Tom Brady is going to the NY Giants. Cannot reveal my sources. 2 thoughts, first Gettleman REFUSED to name D. Jones as the starter for 2020 and 2) Tom just bought a house in Greenwich. Last I checked Tom can afford a home ANYWHERE, why buy in CT?? Because it’s a done deal already just nobody knows about it.

  43. Why didn’t Brady have the fire lit under him last year when Stidham broke all of Brayd and then JimmyGs preseason records? Yes, I realize it’s preseason, but it’s still an apples to apples comparison.
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    Preseason records? Preseason records? Did you just reference preseason records?!? You lost any credibility you may have had with that one. I suddenly forgot everything you said before and everything after was Charlie Brown’s teacher. Preseason records?!? SMH…

  44. Only reason Brady isn’t retiring is because he is in the closet with his trainer. He couldn’t spend so much time with him without looking suspicious if he was retired. Plus he sounds more feminine than Richard Simmons so it’s quite obvious

  45. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    BB made Brady. Not the other way around.

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    BB is 18-19 as Pats head coach without Brady starting. 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl. Bledsoe, Jimmy G and Cassel all had better seasons AFTER leaving BB’s Pats. BB’s reputation as a GM is that once a good player becomes too expensive for his taste, he seeks out a cheaper replacement. With one glaring exception.

    BB and TB have both been pretty darn important. Fact.

  46. I was really starting to get worried. I was afraid we were going to experience one lousy day without some BS story about Brady. Maybe tomorrow we will see something on what time he gets up in the morning.

  47. Actually, Tom has a series of cosmetic procedures scheduled for late Feb thru early March. Kraft knows this.

  48. trollaikman8 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 2:26 pm
    Can we get a grievance counselor here for the patriot fans? This is a very difficult time for them.
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    No grieving Pats fans on this site. Pats fans will actually enjoy seeing the hypocrisy of the fans of whatever team Brady signs with, whether the team is the Bucs, Chargers, Colts, Titans, or whomever, celebrating him, and standing in line for Brady paraphernalia, after criticizing him during his run with the Pats.

  49. johnnycantread says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:43 am
    Retire already

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    Please take your own advice for the sake of all of us. That, and look up “broken record” and read the definition. Yikes.

    Oh, and uh, ain’t happenin’ . Sorry.

  50. Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 27, 2020 at 1:39 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    BB made Brady. Not the other way around.

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    BB is 18-19 as Pats head coach without Brady starting. 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl. Bledsoe, Jimmy G and Cassel all had better seasons AFTER leaving BB’s Pats. BB’s reputation as a GM is that once a good player becomes too expensive for his taste, he seeks out a cheaper replacement. With one glaring exception.

    BB and TB have both been pretty darn important. Fact.

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    The only time BB has been in charge of his team and QB was with NE/ He had two hands tied behind his back in Cleveland, other than the focus on getting the Browns younger and begging Modell to allow him to bench Kosar to scramble around for a better option. Voila, BB gets his wish and they immediately starting progressing to a playoff and then as a favorite to the SB in 1995. Do you people even have a clue with anything historical? Why do Millennials hate history so much? There’s so much to learn from the sequences and patterns. But, Mlllennials hate to learn, I keep forgetting.

    His record would be above .500 if he had his ideas heard in Cleveland like Kraft has allowed him to so brilliantly do for 20 years. You’re the reason why BB probably is ok with Brady moving on. To prove dopes like you wrong.

    He essentially built the landscape for the Baltimore Ravens 2000 team. He certainly acquired that extra 1st rd pick which got them Ray Lewis. Ozzie Newsome, George Kokinos and every other Browns front office guy would tell you that. That’s also documented in print and through the footabll life documentary.

    There’s a reason why Brady, Cassel and JimmyG looked so good so fast. It’s not rocket science. BB worked with them PERSONALLY EVERY DAY. They’re the only QBs to get that treatment.

    I mean, with Cassel, what QB sits on a bench for 10 years since high school and then wins 11 games like that? The closest example is Kurt Warner coming out of a goceery store, which is also an incredible story.

    When you have the greatest defensive mind in football history giving you the answers to the test, so to speak, THAT’s WHY.

    My goodness. It’s only been obvious for 15-20 years.

  51. thereisno23 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 1:17 pm
    Why didn’t Brady have the fire lit under him last year when Stidham broke all of Brayd and then JimmyGs preseason records? Yes, I realize it’s preseason, but it’s still an apples to apples comparison.
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    Preseason records? Preseason records? Did you just reference preseason records?!? You lost any credibility you may have had with that one. I suddenly forgot everything you said before and everything after was Charlie Brown’s teacher. Preseason records?!? SMH…

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    Your IQ is too low to understand the point. The pattern holds…Just like I said with the Pats not accomplishing their goals in odd seasons..They sustain some tough injuries that have them come up short in postseasons in those years, and they’re in the SB and winning it, the next. lol

    Anyway, the discussion about preseason is the eye test. A friend of mine made fun of me for watching Rodgers in preseason vs Dallas in 2005, too. Guess who was right on that one?

    if the eyet test matches up to the stats, you’ve got something.

    Brady, I knew right away…JimmyG, same thing. Stidham? Certainly very impressive.

    I don’t need “credibility” in my life from total strangers, many of them clueless Milennnials on a messageboard who are on breaks from Facebook and video games in a basement somewhere.

    lmao

  52. tylawspick6 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:49 am
    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    Exactly. He’s essentially doing more pouting and making a scene for the ego stroke. BB knows it.

    What I want to know is, if he was to leave, will he skip his new team’s OTAs for “more family time”?

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    You register around 1/3 of the posts on this thread alone. Perhaps you should take a break and spend some time with your family

  53. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    Chill_Mickelson says:
    February 27, 2020 at 1:39 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    BB made Brady. Not the other way around.

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    BB is 18-19 as Pats head coach without Brady starting. 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl. Bledsoe, Jimmy G and Cassel all had better seasons AFTER leaving BB’s Pats. BB’s reputation as a GM is that once a good player becomes too expensive for his taste, he seeks out a cheaper replacement. With one glaring exception.

    BB and TB have both been pretty darn important. Fact.

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    The only time BB has been in charge of his team and QB was with NE/ He had two hands tied behind his back in Cleveland, other than the focus on getting the Browns younger and begging Modell to allow him to bench Kosar to scramble around for a better option. Voila, BB gets his wish and they immediately starting progressing to a playoff and then as a favorite to the SB in 1995. Do you people even have a clue with anything historical? Why do Millennials hate history so much? There’s so much to learn from the sequences and patterns. But, Mlllennials hate to learn, I keep forgetting.

    His record would be above .500 if he had his ideas heard in Cleveland like Kraft has allowed him to so brilliantly do for 20 years. You’re the reason why BB probably is ok with Brady moving on. To prove dopes like you wrong.

    He essentially built the landscape for the Baltimore Ravens 2000 team. He certainly acquired that extra 1st rd pick which got them Ray Lewis. Ozzie Newsome, George Kokinos and every other Browns front office guy would tell you that. That’s also documented in print and through the footabll life documentary.

    There’s a reason why Brady, Cassel and JimmyG looked so good so fast. It’s not rocket science. BB worked with them PERSONALLY EVERY DAY. They’re the only QBs to get that treatment.

    I mean, with Cassel, what QB sits on a bench for 10 years since high school and then wins 11 games like that? The closest example is Kurt Warner coming out of a goceery store, which is also an incredible story.

    When you have the greatest defensive mind in football history giving you the answers to the test, so to speak, THAT’s WHY.

    My goodness. It’s only been obvious for 15-20 years.

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    My goodness, what a long winded non rebuttal. So Belichick built the 2000 Ravens from 5 years in the past…. got it.. And he was such a QB savant that he waited until the 199th pick to take Brady, sits him a year and then gives Bledsoe the largest contract in the NFL history. And Bledsoe, Cassel and Jimmy G all had better years after leaving.

  54. “Only reason Brady isn’t retiring is because he is in the closet with his trainer. He couldn’t spend so much time with him without looking suspicious if he was retired. Plus he sounds more feminine than Richard Simmons so it’s quite obvious”

    Lol the only thing that seems “obvious” is you have Tom Brady fantasies and wish you were “in the closet” with him.

  55. Every Patriot in the ‘all descerning eye’of p6 is a future All Pro. Until they get cut. Stidham? Lol. 5 yr backup QB career. At best.

  56. tylawspick6 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 11:08 am
    bullcharger says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:50 am
    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    That’s exactly the opposite of everything Brady says. He doesn’t care about any of that. He just wants to play and wants to win. If he can do that for the Patriots he definitely will.

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    So, why isn’t he signed at 25 mil right now for 2 years?

    If it’s such a slam dunk, and you believe his statement, what is the problem?

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    I don’t think there is a problem on Brady’s end. If the Patriots were willing to give him 25 million for two years at the start of last year he would have taken it. Since they were only willing to give him 1 year, he asked for his freedom in exchange. Now he’s going to check out his opportunities. I don’t see it as very different from what the team did with Hightower tbh.

  57. No grieving Pats fans on this site. Pats fans will actually enjoy seeing the hypocrisy of the fans of whatever team Brady signs with, whether the team is the Bucs, Chargers, Colts, Titans, or whomever, celebrating him, and standing in line for Brady paraphernalia, after criticizing him during his run with the Pats.

    4

    Might want to change your name to the past tense Francis.

  58. My goodness, what a long winded non rebuttal. So Belichick built the 2000 Ravens from 5 years in the past…. got it.. And he was such a QB savant that he waited until the 199th pick to take Brady, sits him a year and then gives Bledsoe the largest contract in the NFL history. And Bledsoe, Cassel and Jimmy G all had better years after leaving.

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    Absolutely. Ray Lewis as a bonus to HOF Ogden in the same rd, after the lead up to the scouting done by BB and Co pre 1996, was huge.

    It takes years to teambuild into a SB champion. Absolutely. You must be a Jets fan.

    bawhaah

    PS BB then dealt Bledsoe off for a 1st rd pick as the greatest GM in sports history started out in NE. Of course, you were probably in diapers when this was happening.

  59. You register around 1/3 of the posts on this thread alone. Perhaps you should take a break and spend some time with your family

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    Don’t worry let him run his mouth onceBrady is gone so will motor mouth..Priceless

  60. bullcharger says:
    February 27, 2020 at 3:44 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 11:08 am
    bullcharger says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:50 am
    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    That’s exactly the opposite of everything Brady says. He doesn’t care about any of that. He just wants to play and wants to win. If he can do that for the Patriots he definitely will.

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    So, why isn’t he signed at 25 mil right now for 2 years?

    If it’s such a slam dunk, and you believe his statement, what is the problem?

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    I don’t think there is a problem on Brady’s end. If the Patriots were willing to give him 25 million for two years at the start of last year he would have taken it. Since they were only willing to give him 1 year, he asked for his freedom in exchange. Now he’s going to check out his opportunities. I don’t see it as very different from what the team did with Hightower tbh.

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    That is certainly the sales pitch on why this is happening, but did Edelman or Hightower have Brady’s ego?

    Did they have person trainers blocked from the bldg? Did they act like whiny victims on and off the field by skipping OTAs and whining about personnel quality with horrible body language at the podium after games when the D completely outperfermed him and his offense.

    Honestly, I had no idea Chris Hogan was better than Sanu/Harry/Meyers.

    I think they;re VERY different, but you are right, that is the current Pats FPO sales pitch to the fans.

    We already know numerous teams are dumb enough to pay MORE than NE will pay. Brady doesn’t have to go to market to know that.

    If he takes the 2018 salary of 18 mil, he can get more weapons of choice. He took MORE in 2019, was worse, and skipped OTAs yet again.

    My point is, what if BB sees Brady slipping more than Brady’s own ego does?

    It’s not lacking in supportive data to say that. Look at Brady’s last 2 seasons without a functioning HOF Gronk.

    Why does the GOAT have to have minimal 2 HOF weapons to pass to? Seriously. That’s what he thinks he needs apparently because of WHO he is. Did the Brady from 2001-2004 demand that?

  61. SWFLPC.INC says:
    February 27, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:49 am
    #The-Best-Fans-in-the-NFL says:
    February 27, 2020 at 10:16 am
    It appears to me Brady is looking for some appreciation,… massage my ego please.
    There’s no love between Brady and Belichick. It’s not in Belichick’s M.O.
    Tom wants a team and a coach to give him some McLovin. And $30 million to boot

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    Exactly. He’s essentially doing more pouting and making a scene for the ego stroke. BB knows it.

    What I want to know is, if he was to leave, will he skip his new team’s OTAs for “more family time”?

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    You register around 1/3 of the posts on this thread alone. Perhaps you should take a break and spend some time with your family

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    Fantastic insecurity and backpedal. Congrats, you said nothing which speaks volumes. I’ll be sure to let you know when I am right again.

  62. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    “It’s not lacking in supportive data to say that. Look at Brady’s last 2 seasons without a functioning HOF Gronk.”

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    Huh, well there’s that pesky Super Bowl season where the Pats went 4-0 against 12 win teams with a diminished Gronk (2-0 in 2 Mahomes shootouts) and 4 missed games by Edelman.

    And another 12 win season with a shaky offensive line, an injured Edelman down the stretch, poor TE play, and only 7 games combined from the Pats 2 most talented WRs. And Brady was #1 QB in tight window pass accuracy last season.

  63. “…If Woody Johnson was not such an incredible moron, realized BB’s worth, realized why Kraft was offering a 1st rder, could have done what Kraft did, had BB as GM and Coach of the Jets, drafted and developed Brady, you might have been seeing why Brady became so great.”
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    Not to “pick” on anyone, and I certainly am not a defender of the NYJ front office… but Belichick resigned as HC of the NYJ a couple of weeks before Johnson purchased the team and the league allowed the “trade” about a week after his purchase. Belichick already had both feet out the door and specifically cited “ownership” as one of his reasons for leaving. Why on earth would Johnson have tried to retain him? At the time, the Jets looked like they had the better end of the bargain. Sorry to let facts get in the way of a good story.

  64. I don’t understand the critique of Brady’s supposed “ego” by people who don’t know him. Based on the comments by his teammates over the years regarding how he treats everyone, I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not to “pick” on anyone, but I would never pretend to have some omniscient ability to judge the character of strangers just to stroke my own ego.

  65. tylawspick6 says:

    February 27, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    There’s a reason why Brady, Cassel and JimmyG looked so good so fast. It’s not rocket science. BB worked with them PERSONALLY EVERY DAY. They’re the only QBs to get that treatment.
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    Not sure where you get your fantasy of BB working with jimmy G or any other QB “everyday”- nonsense and he would be an awful HC then.
    But lets go along with it just for fun:

    So Bill- your “can’t ever do wrong guy” worked “every day’ with jimmy G for three and a half years. Sum Total- Won Arizona game ONLY because the Cards kicker missed an easy walk off field goal. Played well for 1 half of the game in Miami, and never played another snap for NE.

    So- everyday begot 1 -1/2 games. That sounds efficient. Stidham should be ready for his 1-1/2 games by 2022 then- can’t wait.

    Maybe if he didn’t spend every waking moment caressing Jimmy G he would have had more time to learn how to draft players instead of pretty much whiffing on the last 5 drafts resulting in one of the oldest teams in the league?

    Brady ain’t, and never has been the problem- the last two years especially are squarely on Bill’s incredibly bad Offensive Rosters. If Brady played in last years SB the 49’s would have won.

  66. tylawspick6 says:

    It takes years to teambuild into a SB champion. Absolutely. You must be a Jets fan.

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    Still no rebuttal. Belichick is not a great QB developer, there’s a lot of misses and a lot of players who improved after leaving. Brady was/is special.

  67. GoodellMustGo says:
    February 27, 2020 at 9:09 am
    Not buying it. He isn’t going anywhere.
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    Going, Going, Gone!

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