Agent: Pats offered Brian Hoyer chance to compete for starting job

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The Patriots brought quarterback Brian Hoyer back for a third tour with the team on Sunday and this one is different than the other two.

Hoyer won’t be backing up Tom Brady in New England this time and agent Joe Linta told PFT that the Patriots offered Hoyer a chance to compete for the starting job. Linta added that was enough to get Hoyer to turn down more money in order to take the job in New England.

Hoyer’s deal is for one year and $2 million in guaranteed money. The money will be paid out by both the Patriots and the Colts at Hoyer was guaranteed money from Indianapolis before he was released this week.

Jarrett Stidham and Cody Kessler are the other quarterbacks in New England at the moment. How much that changes will have much to do with Hoyer’s odds of winning any competition for the top job.

49 responses to “Agent: Pats offered Brian Hoyer chance to compete for starting job

  1. That may be true and it is more likely
    meant as a way to not tell Stidham it’s his. The chips will fall with Stidham, IMO. It makes no sense to not get him reps for another year knowing he is the guy moving forward.

    Classic BB. No one can get too comfy.

  2. Belichick will soon regret his treatment of Brady as he watches the Bradyless Patriots come crashing back down to earth.

    Brian Hoyer?? Seriously??

  3. If Hoyer ends up starting for the Pats, then it’s a given that Belicheat is tanking this season.

  4. ehsguy72 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    Belichick will soon regret his treatment of Brady as he watches the Bradyless Patriots come crashing back down to earth.

    Brian Hoyer?? Seriously??

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    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    Unbelievable.

    The greatest coaching staffs, GM, Coach, OL Coach, RBs Coach (unheralded Ivan Fears), and supporting cast a QB could ever dream of, and somehow poor wittle Tommy was treated poorly, huh?

    Let me tell you something, for those who still haven’t figured it out yet:

    The Boston media, some of whom who got sports radio gigs, mainly with 98.5 in 2009, with the Boston Globe merger, decided to attack BB to make money. Within that, they used the fanbase in a way where it forced them to pick sides, knowing that many young fans (Millennials) who like the players over coaches, would side with them. It was a moneymaker.

    Only in Boston would the greatest GM and Coach, above Red Auerbach (yep, read it again), be some kind of a problem, setting the table to be able to perform in. The greatest litmus test will be this season and guess who I know will do better (TB or NE)?

    BB is the one who drives that bus, with Brady, without Brady, etc. You’re in for a wildly rude awakening in 2020.

    If you have never interest in learning about business, economics, teambuilding, etc, then fine. But, to be so proven wrong for 20 years, and still not even come close to understanding it? That’s on you, little guy.

  5. Will Hoyer remove his helmet and run fingers through his lovely hair implants for the ladies?

  6. Will be interesting to watch what Belichick does without Brady. I still think he’ll add another QB. There have been times throughout history that a team actually found a decent QB later in the draft. Actually, there have been many times. You don’t always need the #1 pick to find a good QB. But if you would rather have a QB who was the #1 pick, Cam Newton and Jameis Winston are out of work.

  7. tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

  8. I have said it so many times over and over again…NO single player defines, makes, or breaks a team. BB and the New England Patriots, not the Tom Brady Patriots. Tom is a fine field general, and possibly the greatest ever. That being said, any descent veteran who can read a defense should be able to step in for TB, and keep the Patriot dynasty alive. It’s all about practice, sound fundamentals, on-field leadership, and coaching.

  9. Brian Hoyer is there to be a stabilizing force, he’s an extra coach. He will be extremely valuable to Stidham and Kessler and will make each of them more successful. I doubt he will start, but if you think he won’t work out well for the Patriots, you’re wrong.

  10. I think this is more on TB. But I don’t blame him though, he has absolutely nothing to prove. In my mind, although I’m a Denver Broncos fan, Brady is the GOAT. In his mind, he probably wants to prove it to himself, that he can or can’t win without BB. I believe he will win some, possibly even make the playoffs with the Bucs. On the other hand, while I think BB is arguably the greatest Coach in my lifetime, He has a hard task ahead of him with his current roster! They needed each other, & I believe we all will see that.

  11. jjbadd385 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:08 pm
    I think this is more on TB. But I don’t blame him though, he has absolutely nothing to prove. In my mind, although I’m a Denver Broncos fan, Brady is the GOAT. In his mind, he probably wants to prove it to himself, that he can or can’t win without BB. I believe he will win some, possibly even make the playoffs with the Bucs. On the other hand, while I think BB is arguably the greatest Coach in my lifetime, He has a hard task ahead of him with his current roster! They needed each other, & I believe we all will see that.

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    The roster is loaded. Their biggest loss is Van Noy. That’s it.

    This is no lie, but I searched back on some emails from late 2018 and it was entitled “we got a problem”. The team had been struggling badly in late 2018, with Gronk and Edelman, a great run game and OL, and I said the exact same thing in 2018 as I did this past season.

    Translation? Brady was not locked in. They must have had some
    kind of a come to Jesus meeting with 2 games to go to convince Brady that the base attack would have to be a physical run game
    and not his arm.

    What happened? Brady shredded the Chargers zone d, like I said, and they rolled up the sleeves vs KC and ran it down that crap Da throat.

    The D then won the SB.

    Translation? This has been going on for 2 years with Brady. The SB win masked the obvious: Brady was not doing a good job running the offense like he had been in previous seasons.

    Yep.

    BB probably thinks Stidham would have beaten Miami and maybe even Tenn just being running the offense better than how badly Brady was doing it in 2019.

  12. tylawspick6 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 5:23 pm
    That may be true and it is more likely
    meant as a way to not tell Stidham it’s his. The chips will fall with Stidham, IMO. It makes no sense to not get him reps for another year knowing he is the guy moving forward.

    Classic BB. No one can get too comfy.

    You act like this is strategy. It’s cute. Really cute.

  13. exusafsp says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:07 pm
    I have said it so many times over and over again…NO single player defines, makes, or breaks a team. BB and the New England Patriots, not the Tom Brady Patriots. Tom is a fine field general, and possibly the greatest ever. That being said, any descent veteran who can read a defense should be able to step in for TB, and keep the Patriot dynasty alive. It’s all about practice, sound fundamentals, on-field leadership, and coaching.

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    Absolutely. It is basically a generation of Millennial fanboys who don’t get the cap and grew up, well, as Millennials with video games
    and fantasy football so they don’t understand the sport all that well.

    Once Brady got toys in 2007, and became a worse game manager until
    that problem was fixed by dealing Moss (Brady would
    revert back to bad Brady in 2011 with a skyrocketing INT pace), BB was seeing it then.

    Drafting JimmyG fixed Brady mentally and the commitment until 2018 where Brady probably thought his 2017 mvp season would
    land him a deal until 45.

    It didn’t. BB is no dummy. It is not personal, he is just not a dummy.

  14. objectivefbfan says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:40 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 5:23 pm
    That may be true and it is more likely
    meant as a way to not tell Stidham it’s his. The chips will fall with Stidham, IMO. It makes no sense to not get him reps for another year knowing he is the guy moving forward.

    Classic BB. No one can get too comfy.

    You act like this is strategy. It’s cute. Really cute.

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    Using common sense and getting a system vet in Hoyer to help Stidham along is “cute”?

    Whatever you say, little guy.

    Quick! Get to spring break with the other Milllennials. lol!

  15. flaccodelic says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

    I totally agree. All we heard for years was GOAT, GOAT, GOAT. Now he’s left and man can they turn on him in a hurry.

  16. Stidham will start. Belichick will not tank. Doesn’t know what that even means.

    He’ll let them “battle it out” and wait for the reveal, but there’s very little chance Hoyer will play most of the year. Even if he does, Belichick will be comfortable trying to win with him in there. Hoyer is a great coach-in-waiting and knows the system.

  17. If you weren’t convinced Belichick would tank the season for Trevor Lawrence before, you ought to be now.

  18. flaccodelic says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

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    Suddenly? I don’t like big ego Giselle Brady since 2007 when his head got big, his postseasons were glaringly worse because of it, and I loved BB drafting JimmyG for multiple reasons, one them telling Brady to snap out of it, stop audibling into the pass, driving his pass attempts to 45+ passes per week.

    This battle for BB to not only challenge Brady after being so successful while slapping him down when the ego push failed over and over, including losing 2 sbs with pathetic offensive play while ignoring the run game.

    And every time, guess who fell on the sword while Brady skated?

    BB.

    BB doesn’t run Brady’s offense of choice or throw the ball. Brady does that. Got it?

    Brady’s ego is long gone and Giselle has been whispering in his ear with how perfect he is after SB46 on the concourse after he refused to move his feet and simply move, taking that safety so start a super bowl.

    You can either pay attention or keep whistling past the graveyard. BB pays attention.

  19. ikeclanton says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:14 pm
    Stidham will start. Belichick will not tank. Doesn’t know what that even means.

    He’ll let them “battle it out” and wait for the reveal, but there’s very little chance Hoyer will play most of the year. Even if he does, Belichick will be comfortable trying to win with him in there. Hoyer is a great coach-in-waiting and knows the system.

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    It’s Stidham. Don’t buy into the info. It’s a bluff to keep Hoyer engaged and to push Stidham.

    Once I saw it was Hoyer and not a trade for say, Trubisky on his rookie deal for pure young competition, I knew it was Stidham as I did last August after seeing Stidham and seeing Brady walk from his contract offer.

  20. tylawspick6 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:29 pm
    jjbadd385 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:08 pm
    I think this is more on TB. But I don’t blame him though, he has absolutely nothing to prove. In my mind, although I’m a Denver Broncos fan, Brady is the GOAT. In his mind, he probably wants to prove it to himself, that he can or can’t win without BB. I believe he will win some, possibly even make the playoffs with the Bucs. On the other hand, while I think BB is arguably the greatest Coach in my lifetime, He has a hard task ahead of him with his current roster! They needed each other, & I believe we all will see that.

    1 1 Rate This

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    The roster is loaded. Their biggest loss is Van Noy. That’s it.

    This is no lie, but I searched back on some emails from late 2018 and it was entitled “we got a problem”. The team had been struggling badly in late 2018, with Gronk and Edelman, a great run game and OL, and I said the exact same thing in 2018 as I did this past season.

    Translation? Brady was not locked in. They must have had some
    kind of a come to Jesus meeting with 2 games to go to convince Brady that the base attack would have to be a physical run game
    and not his arm.

    What happened? Brady shredded the Chargers zone d, like I said, and they rolled up the sleeves vs KC and ran it down that crap Da throat.

    The D then won the SB.

    Translation? This has been going on for 2 years with Brady. The SB win masked the obvious: Brady was not doing a good job running the offense like he had been in previous seasons.

    Yep.

    BB probably thinks Stidham would have beaten Miami and maybe even Tenn just being running the offense better than how badly Brady was doing it in 2019.
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    So a loaded Chargers team comes into Foxboro during the playoffs with a better record and playing hot, And you sit there and just say ‘Brady shreds their zone’ Like you said, and brush it off like no accomplishment for Brady and the offense?

    And then they go KC, play another great team is a very hostile environment and he throws for 350 with multiple clutch 3rd down plays. Does he get kudos for that game? Does the defense get a pass for getting lit up in the 2nd half?

    I’m not a Brady homer, but I do side with players over coaches, they make the plays. The game plan can be excellent but the players execute, and Brady has been second to none.

    Speaking of the Miami game, did the defense show up for that game? It was an embarrassment. The offense left the field LEADING the game before the defense choked up a 70 yard, excruciating touchdown drive. But….offenses fault?

    BB and the Pats will be fine without Tom, it will take a year or two to figure things out, 20 years is a long time. Tom will be fine without BB too. They were both just unbelievable together, don’t blame either one for moving on in the end, it happens in sports.

  21. ajg314 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:02 pm
    flaccodelic says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

    I totally agree. All we heard for years was GOAT, GOAT, GOAT. Now he’s left and man can they turn on him in a hurry.

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    TYLAW has been dumping on Brady for a while, you need to go back and read his other comments, this isn’t new…..

  22. Tylawspick6 your flip flopping on Brady is in a class all its own.

    Anything you say from now on will be smirked at and not taken seriously.

    Its amazing how you didn’t even try to hide your love for BB when before it was Tom

  23. milehighsuperguy says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:15 pm
    If you weren’t convinced Belichick would tank the season for Trevor Lawrence before, you ought to be now.

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    Man, maybe you should head down to spring break with the other dopey Millennials.

    NE has Stidham as the heir apparent. They love his progress
    and are very impressed. If he gets a big head or goes off track, sure, that is a different story.

  24. So a loaded Chargers team comes into Foxboro during the playoffs with a better record and playing hot, And you sit there and just say ‘Brady shreds their zone’ Like you said, and brush it off like no accomplishment for Brady and the offense?

    And then they go KC, play another great team is a very hostile environment and he throws for 350 with multiple clutch 3rd down plays. Does he get kudos for that game? Does the defense get a pass for getting lit up in the 2nd half?

    I’m not a Brady homer, but I do side with players over coaches, they make the plays. The game plan can be excellent but the players execute, and Brady has been second to none.

    Speaking of the Miami game, did the defense show up for that game? It was an embarrassment. The offense left the field LEADING the game before the defense choked up a 70 yard, excruciating touchdown drive. But….offenses fault?

    BB and the Pats will be fine without Tom, it will take a year or two to figure things out, 20 years is a long time. Tom will be fine without BB too. They were both just unbelievable together, don’t blame either one for moving on in the end, it happens in sports.

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    It is concerning to me that Brady doesn’t know that when it’s
    man coverage vs a team that only needs to rush 4, floods the middle and he thinks he can throw out of that, that it’s still a problem even now. The Binky Addiction, “Brady Lock”, and now the outright undermining of BBs draft picks or signings, on the field or during games, etc, is just way, way over the top.

    It has nothint

    You’ll note who is staying loyal to BB: McDaniels. BB made the divorce happen and I am as relieved of it like I was when BB dealt the checked out Moss in 2010. This is the exact same thing as that. Exact same thing.

    It has nothing to do with how brilliant Moss was in his
    prime when he was checked in or how brilliant Brady was late in 2018 after BB, he and McDaniels clearly had some kind of an emergency meeting late that year to get Brady straightened out. Remember the Pitt loss late in the year? Can’t stare down just the binkies. It does not work.

  25. Is it just me or are NE fans really long winded. A couple of these posts are long enough to need a table of contents!

  26. joker65 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:38 pm
    ajg314 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:02 pm
    flaccodelic says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

    I totally agree. All we heard for years was GOAT, GOAT, GOAT. Now he’s left and man can they turn on him in a hurry.

    ___

    TYLAW has been dumping on Brady for a while, you need to go back and read his other comments, this isn’t new…..

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    Shows you how BB masked Brady’s quality of play drop in 2018 and 2019. I am just an honest, educated fan of the team, not just Brady.

    Denial is not a good thing.

    People forget how awful Brady was looking through most of 2018, a season in which he somehow woke up late in the year.

    BB is probably tired of trying get Brady motivated and focused. The same thing happened to Malcom Butler in 2017. He had checked out and the coaches said it was “a struggle to get him ready” week to week because the ego got too big from the SB49 interception.

  27. joker65 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:38 pm
    ajg314 says:
    March 22, 2020 at 7:02 pm
    flaccodelic says:
    March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Treatment of Brady? Yes, the most spoiled QB in Cap Era history, was treated poorly.

    LOL – suddenly you hate Brady. This is hilarious to behold.

    I totally agree. All we heard for years was GOAT, GOAT, GOAT. Now he’s left and man can they turn on him in a hurry.

    ___

    TYLAW has been dumping on Brady for a while, you need to go back and read his other comments, this isn’t new…..

    0 1 Rate This

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    Flipflopping? I was banned from numerous Pats board the last 10 years for pointing how Brady was playing poorly for his standards over certain stretches of time.

    I really got on it in 2011 when his play was poor with a skyrocketing int rate, leading all the way into the titlle game that year where it almost looked like he was throwing games.

    The old Brady only returned when BB drafted JimmyG. No
    flipping flopping here. This all coincided with 2007 and the records he broke and then meeting Gisellle.

    Truth.

  28. Hoyer is literally the perfect fit, all things considered. There’s a high likelihood of a truncated camp/preseason and the Patriots are up against the wall when it comes the the cap. Hoyer knows the terminology, is familiar with the staff and provides a veteran presence for Stidham. Sure, he’ll have a “chance” to compete for the starting job, but let’s not kid ourselves– it’s Stidham’s job unless he plays his way out of it.

    I’m looking forward to seeing Stidham get an opportunity and see how McDaniels tweaks the playbook. He doesn’t need to be Tom Brady. Even if he turns out to be Matt Cassel 2.0 that’s pretty good and can stabilize the ship until they have cap flexibility to bring in more talent and figure out a long term situation.

  29. Love the armchair GM’s they’re everywhere…Suddenly Belichick is in trouble because Tom Brady isn’t there? HELLO how’d he do when he had NO TIME to prepare for a non Brady team back when Brady got hurt week 1? Oh that’s right he only went 11-5, and in any other season other than that crazy season they make the playoffs and who knows what happens. Now he’s had an entire off-season to prepare for life without Tom, and suddenly the Patriots are in trouble? Come on man you people can’t be serious….11-5 and another trip to the playoffs it’s really that simple

  30. BB is the coach and GM for the Patriots and has done a fantastic job for 20 years. He didn’t lose it over the past two months. He is not doing a rebuild but is retooling in 2020. BB will only win 8-10 games this year but will return to the 10-11 win seasons beginning in 2021 with a more seasoned Stidham at QB.

    I think Brady is the GOAT and I wish him great success in Tampa Bay. Brady’s time is approaching the end and it is time for the Patriots to move on.

  31. Couldn’t get more hilarious than 10 or more wins with Brian Hoyer just doing his job.

  32. exusafsp says:

    I have said it so many times over and over again…NO single player defines, makes, or breaks a team. BB and the New England Patriots, not the Tom Brady Patriots. Tom is a fine field general, and possibly the greatest ever. That being said, any descent veteran who can read a defense should be able to step in for TB, and keep the Patriot dynasty alive. It’s all about practice, sound fundamentals, on-field leadership, and coaching.
    ————-

    How delusional are Pats fans? Unbelievably delusional.
    It’s ALL about the GOAT.

    Expect 4-12..

  33. This article, believe it or not, is actually not about Tom Brady.

    Whether Hoyer is an upgrade over Brady or not is not relevant. What is relevant is that the Patriots need a starting quarterback.

    Hoyer has been in the Pats system-recently, I might add-and has starting experience. He’s even had periods of success as a starter, namely his stint in Cleveland. Given the available (current) free agent options, he is near the top of the list. Bear in mind that Cam Newton and Andy Dalton, both of whom are still under contract, would require some kind of compensation to acquire and also be more expensive to pay once they have been acquired. Hoyer is cheap, knows the system, and has experience starting. It will be easier to give him a year and release him once you’ve found a QB that you are comfortable with long term-even if that QB is already on the roster, like Stidham.

    Personally, I would not count out Kessler. He also has starting experience, and we’ve seen good play from him (also with the Browns) personally, even if the team around him was not good and he hasn’t shown that he’s a franchise level starter. But he is coachable and generally makes good decisions, and is rather young. If Belichick just wants a stable QB to ride the season out with, he will likely go with Hoyer. If he wants a developmental QB for a long term franchise position, he will go with Stidham. If he wants the cut the middle, Kessler may win. This is of course assuming that they all play to how we expect. I could easily see Stidham traded after being played a little in the preseason, especially if he does not win the job and Belichick decides to pick a top level prospect next year or the year after.

    Belichick holds a unique position in that he does not necessarily value high draft position the same as most other franchises. He has a history of using his lower end picks to get specific players that he envisions a role for. So tanking is not as important for him as it would be for some other GMs, many of whom also do not have the job security that Belichick does (even at this stage, where the possibility of doing poorly minus Brady would finally make him vulnerable to significant blowback regarding his abilities). That is why most GMs value the “best available player” strategy so much-picking a star player can save a GM’s career. Belichick has the proven history, and the confidence of his owner, so he can afford to pick a lower end player to fit his system. Besides, he values number of picks over position. Tanking really isn’t his style. They will certainly lose more games, given that they’ve lost their starter (and of course their starter was an all-time great), but I do not see Belichick tanking for pick positioning. Even if he did that, it would only be so that he can trade it away for more picks on draft day.

  34. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with giving Hoyer a CHANCE to earn the starting position….. he won’t but it at least had to be said to him & it will keep Jarrett a bit more focused on EARNING the job as opposed to being handed the job…. competition is a GREAT MOTIVATOR & kerps things both interesting & in perspective….. ALSO, Hoyer is ALREADY FAMILIAR with the Pats system…. he was cheap to land & the most obvious choice to bring in, especially with all that is going on with this freakin virus…. I mean who knows how long new players will get to spend with their new teams before (IF) the preseason happens… it was the smartest move & approach considering the current circumstances….Bill just doing Bill type things, nothing more, nothing less!!!
    Go Pats!!!!

  35. Let the haters crow it won’t change the the Pat’s dominance over the last 20 years and 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 sb titles! I’m excited for future the past was getting boring wining all the time and hearing excuses and the crying of other teams/fan bases.

  36. BB is the smartest coach in NFL History, and he just proved it…

    He had an 8-8 Roster (at best) with Tom Brady returning in 2020. It was over, done, finished.

    He knew it, the NFL knew it.

    So you let Brady walk… you take your lumps in 2020, and you rebuild with a new Franchise QB in 2021.

    He just breathed another 5 years into his coaching career.

  37. Stidham has already beat Hoyer once last year. That’s why Hoyer was sent to Indy. Stidham was the lone back up to TB12 last year.

  38. BB will give Hoyer a change to earn the job, and Hoyer won’t earn it because, well, he’s not good. Hoyer is there for the moment to push Stidham and create some stability, since he is familiar with the system. Since they just cut Gostkowski, they are shedding cap dollars and perhaps they may try to sign Andy Dalton for a year on the cheap. Or, they roll with Stidham and work towards a higher QB draft choice in 2021 or possibly go after Deshaun Watson. In any case, it is a quasi rebuild in 2020.

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