Chargers may be spreading the word that they don’t want Cam Newton

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After the Chargers failed to land Tom Brady, they debated acquiring Cam Newton. The debate apparently has been resolved.

Colin Cowherd, who has a relationship with the team that dates back to his visit to their war room on the first night of the 2018 draft, tried to make the case on Monday that Newton and Tyrod Taylor are the same player. It’s the kind of narrative that quite possibly comes with the express or implied urging or endorsement of the Chargers, who are either trying to get the word out that they don’t want Newton — or they’re trying to drive his price down with Cowherd making the case for keeping Taylor.

Are Newton and Taylor the same player? Newton is a former league MVP who took the team to the brink of a Super Bowl win. Taylor is a journeyman who has journeyed from Baltimore to Buffalo to Cleveland to L.A.

Nevertheless, Cowherd said this on the air (presumably with a straight face): “Cam and Tyrod are the same guy. . . . The gap between the two is tiny, and if coachability and health matters, I can say Tyrod Taylor gets the edge.”

Cowherd also rattled off some basic numbers from their last 46 starts. Newton is 23-23 with 65 touchdown passes and 44 interceptions. Taylor is 24-21-1 with 54 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions.

For Newton, the 46-start window begins after the 2015 season, during which Newton had 35 touchdown passes, 10 interceptions, 3,837 passing yards, 636 rushing yards, 45 total touchdowns, and 14 total turnovers.

For Taylor, the 46-start window consists of his entire nine-year career. (Like Newton, Taylor entered the league in 2011.) Taylor spent four seasons on the bench in Baltimore before becoming the Buffalo starter. He spent last season on the bench in L.A. And he landed on the bench in 2018 after an early-season injury in Cleveland, yielding the job to then-rookie Baker Mayfield.

If Newton is healthy (and that remains a significant “if”), he’s clearly the better option. And if the Chargers have decided to choose Taylor over a clearly better option when healthy (possibly for fear that there’s no way to know that Newton is or will be healthy), so be it. But the Chargers shouldn’t be pushing to a friendly voice media that they’re the same guy when they’re not.

But, hey, Cowherd had little choice but to play ball. The Chargers by all appearances handed him the news that Tom Brady had picked Tampa Bay over L.A., and that bill came due on Monday, when he was expected to argue (presumably with a straight face) that Cam Newton and Tyrod Taylor are the same guy.

39 responses to “Chargers may be spreading the word that they don’t want Cam Newton

  1. Refusing to dive on that fumble was glaringly the end of this man’s confidence and career. Von Miller literally took his lunch money. Who would want such a self-absorbed player anyways?

  2. The Chargers ownership and management are weak. They avoid trouble at all cost. Cam Newton is just that kind of trouble that the Chargers cannot contain.
    Cam is about Cam which brings trouble itself.

  3. The only thing clear is that the writer of this story likes Cam better.

    If Tyler got the same chances as Newton would he have better stats? We will never know.

  4. josh plum says:
    March 31, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    Refusing to dive on that fumble was glaringly the end of this man’s confidence and career. Von Miller literally took his lunch money. Who would want such a self-absorbed player anyways?

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    Yes….it was his defining moment….and it wasn’t a good look

  5. “Newton is a former league MVP”
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    Key word there is “former.” As in 5 years ago which is a LONG time in the NFL. He’s been hurt constantly since and hasn’t played very well. AND he’s coming back from an injury that has a nasty habit of never truly going away. I’m not sure what is fueling the narrative that he is still great but it defies reality. If he was that same player he’d still be with the Panthers.

  6. When healthy Newton is a way bigger threat than Taylor and it’s not even close. But by all means let’s rehash that single fumble play and his clothing choices for the millionth time.

  7. When the production is no longer there for players that act like divas, then they no longer are wanted or needed. I am waiting for Cam to pull a Kaepernick and say he is being black balled.

  8. If the Chargers really don’t want him, there would be no reason to do this. It would only drive the price down for some other team to sign him.

  9. Cam’s the more dynamic athlete, but Taylor’s the better decision maker. With the injury questions on Newton’s end and Taylor’s familiarity with the team, it’s easy to see why Taylor would be the choice. Neither one is likely to be more than a two or three year starter in L.A., so signing a higher priced starter who is around 30 is hard to justify unless you really believe in his upside and that your team is close to contention and missing a QB. I think L.A. is planning to draft their Super Bowl hopeful, not to sign him.

  10. Never been a fan of Cam’s, I think his a self-absorbed clown, but this is a sad tale on quickly an NFL star can fall from grace.

  11. To my knowledge, Cam Newton has never been in Roger’s office, has never been suspended, arrested or charged with anything. Cam has been a great representative of the NFL in the Charlotte community… No disrespect to Tyrod but there is a huge difference between these two QBs, because when Cam is healthy he is a top-five QB. Cam is one of the best throwers of the football in the NFL, Tyrod can run, Cam is 6’5″ 245lbs QB who can throw from the pocket or on the run. In his rookie year, Newton broke the all-time NFL rookie records for passing and rushing yards.

    He became the first NFL quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning’s first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham’s 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut. Newton went on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season. He also ran for 14 touchdowns, more in a single season than any other quarterback in NFL history, breaking Steve Grogan’s 35-year-old record.

    And all some people remember is a play in the SB when Cam made the right decision not to jump into harm’s way for a fumble that he had no chance to recover…

    The Chargers are not winning in that division with Tyrod Taylor or any of the rookie QB in this year’s draft. If your organization is trying to compete and win the ultimate prize is the Super Bowl you leave bo stone unturned. You owe it to your fan base! Cam would make the Chargers viable in that division if he’s 100%…

  12. The elephant in the room that sports analyst and even coaches refuse to talk about but maybe behind closed doors is the fact no team wants or even likes Cam apparently.

  13. Cam’s game is not based on intuition, accuracy and timing. He is not particularly good at throwing people open and hitting small targets. He’s more likely to use his athleticism to extend time to find someone sitting in a hole who is visibly open as defenders respect his running ability.

    The problem for him is that his atheleticsim is now unknown. The shoulder injury and the Lisfranc injury last year make him suspect for arm strength and foot speed. If those two things are taken away, what do you have left? His accuracy is not good enough to sustain the offense.

  14. To my knowledge, Cam Newton has never been in Roger’s office, has never been suspended, arrested or charged with anything. Cam has been a great representative of the NFL in the Charlotte community… No disrespect to Tyrod but there is a huge difference between these two QBs, because when Cam is healthy he is a top-five QB. Cam is one of the best throwers of the football in the NFL, Tyrod can run, Cam is 6’5″ 245lbs QB who can throw from the pocket or on the run. In his rookie year, Newton broke the all-time NFL rookie records for passing and rushing yards.

    He became the first NFL quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning’s first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham’s 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut. Newton went on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season. He also ran for 14 touchdowns, more in a single season than any other quarterback in NFL history, breaking Steve Grogan’s 35-year-old record.

    And all some people remember is a play in the SB when Cam made the right decision not to jump into harm’s way for a fumble that he had no chance to recover…

    The Chargers are not winning in that division with Tyrod Taylor or any of the rookie QB in this year’s draft. If your organization is trying to compete and win the ultimate prize is the Super Bowl you leave bo stone unturned. You owe it to your fan base! Cam would make the Chargers viable in that division if he’s 100%… Most of these comments are haters because Cam has his own way and style so that makes him a target for these haters, but thing can’t be denied is that he put the Panthers on his back and will them to the SB and an MVP season with no WRs…

  15. Newton is a former league MVP

    So was Terry Bradshaw. Maybe they should consider signing him too. Let’s face it, you’re going to get about the same kind of performance from Taylor as you would from Cam who is now way past his prime–and you’d be saving a lot of money. Neither are the answer so just go with the cheapest guy and start looking for a replacement.

  16. Tyrod’s passer-rate is higher despite starting at Bills & Browns whereas Cam had a franchise.

  17. I don’t think either Newton or Taylor is the answer at QB for the Chargers. Newton would have to reinvent his style of play. That said, I don’t think he can. Taylor doesn’t excite me. He is a career back up at best. A good QB is a leader in his actions and his deeds. Taylor doesn’t fit that bill. I have to admit that if Colin Cowturd is for something, I’m probably against it.

    I could see the Chargers trading for Dalton and drafting a drafting a QB early in the draft. I could even see the Chargers signing Winston on a short term make good deal, and drafting a QB. That would serve two purposes. The Chargers need to add some excitement moving into a new stadium. Winston give you that. He does move the ball and put up yardage. You have to put up with his gambling nature of his thinking process.

    The key for the Chargers is drafting a QB that you have faith in for the future and give him the time he needs.

  18. At this point I’d take Mitch T. off of Chicago’s hands before ever letting Newton destroy my locker room.

  19. “He became the first NFL quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning’s first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham’s 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut. Newton went on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season”

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    It’s cute how Cam’s defenders always point to the meaningless statistics. By those accounts, Romo is a first ballot hall of famer.

  20. footballismybusiness says:
    March 31, 2020 at 12:31 pm
    When healthy Newton is a way bigger threat than Taylor and it’s not even close. But by all means let’s rehash that single fumble play and his clothing choices for the millionth time.
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    Can we also rehash a Saints game a couple years ago in N.O. where he started showboating a TD glide with the ball out around the 2 and a Saints LB knocked the snot out of him at the 1 and Camberly got up in shock looking at the ref for a roughness call……..on a running play😂

  21. sgrvn329 said: “If your organization is trying to compete and win the ultimate prize is the Super Bowl you leave no stone unturned.”

    Me: The Chargers ownership’s #1 goal is to turn a profit, competing is secondary.

  22. cueghost says:
    March 31, 2020 at 12:55 pm
    Cam is garbage… My question is what bill came due for Florio from Newton?
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    Agreed. And Kaepernick.

  23. The Chargers will take a QB in round 1. Taylor will start at QB.
    If Taylor falls flat,… in comes the rookie to see what he’s got.

  24. josh plum says:
    March 31, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    Refusing to dive on that fumble was glaringly the end of this man’s confidence and career. Von Miller literally took his lunch money. Who would want such a self-absorbed player anyways?

    I liked everything you wrote except how you butchered the definition of “literally”.

  25. Cowherd wasn’t trying to hide from Cam’s stats in his MVP season. His comments were meant as a direct replay to people in the media like yourself Mr. Florio, who basically keep harping upon said MVP season as the reason every team lacking a truly elite QB either should go after Cam. If not, their front office is making some huge mistake. The entire point that Cowherd was making is that if you look at their performance AFTER the MVP season, then Taylor actually performed better on worse teams. It’s been a while since Cam’s MVP season, and he hasn’t even come close to that level of performance since. Why you seem to believe that Cam can just flip a switch and do it again, despite all evidence to the contrary, (and all of the injuries) baffles me.

  26. “When healthy Newton is a way bigger threat than Taylor and it’s not even close. But by all means let’s rehash that single fumble play and his clothing choices for the millionth time.”
    _______________

    Speaking of rehashing, how long do we need to keep hearing the “when healthy” line? How many years does a guy have to be hurt and not playing well before we can safely assume he’s never going to be that player again? Because if you think Newton is going to be the same running threat at the age of 30 after multiple injuries as he was at 25 you’re totally kidding yourself.

  27. All I can say is ‘racism is a helluva drug.’

    Trust me, all the Cam bashing could be Russell Wilson bashing or Deshaun Watson bashing that will soon be Patrick Mahomes bashing.

    You pick em. If the the QB is black, he’s interchangeable. They don’t get to be individuals. It’s pretty sad when your ‘true colors’ come shinning through. Obviously racism clouds judgment.

    I’m a lifelong Panthers fan and I’m the one who should be angry at Cam for the “fumble’ nonsense, but if I don’t blame him, why would you?

    I’ll tell you why. It makes you feel good to know that you have some hate you can dwell on forever, making it seem it’s about a fumble, when it’s about Cam and anybody who shares his heritage.

    Face it, you’re a racist looking for support for your racist view point. Like I said, racism clouds your ability to think clearly.

  28. Tyrod can play. He’s done decent on bad teams, dragging one to the playoffs almost on his own. Cam has done less in recent years with much better talent around him. The NFL is a Not For Long league, and unless you can manage to stay healthy (it isn’t news that Cam can’t), your career is not going to last. Cam’s done.

  29. I don’t think there is some Cowherd-Spanos conspiracy. Cowherd just HATES Cam, it’s that simple. He has never had one good thing to say about him.

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