Sean Payton: Tom Brady makes the NFC South stronger

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The Saints have won the NFC South three years in a row, but coach Sean Payton isn’t taking anything for granted now that Tom Brady is in the division.

Payton said Brady’s presence in Tampa Bay makes the Buccaneers a real threat in the division.

“It was a great signing by Tampa, and this division has gotten a lot stronger,” Payton said, via NOLA.com.

Payton said he believes the entire Buccaneers roster will get better with Brady’s leadership.

“It’s also what he brings to the rest of the team,” Payton said. “One of the great strengths a player like Tom has is those others around him get better. I’m sure that we’ll see an entirely different type of Tampa Bay team because of his presence.”

The Buccaneers haven’t won the NFC South since 2007, but Brady led the Patriots to 17 division titles, so he’s not accustomed to finishing anywhere but the top of the standings.

29 responses to “Sean Payton: Tom Brady makes the NFC South stronger

  1. I think it is cute that people still think one player on a roster of 50+ people, 3 sides of the game (offense, defense, and special teams), coaching and schedule makes everything else immaterial. Defense won most of those championships, and I would argue BB won ALL of them. Tampa Bay is not the New England and Arians is not BB. And Brady is 43 years old.

    (Didn’t hit those 2018 incentives did he? Any of them.)

  2. Actually Scam and Jameis leaving the south made it stronger, addition by subtraction

  3. One player doesn’t constitute a team, but may be the missing piece. I don’t see that being the case for Tampa Bay though.

  4. And to think, someone had the nerve to call Sean “Captain Obvious”.

  5. Tampa will get a lot better simply because Brady isn’t tossing 30 picks.

  6. Funny how Palmer had 22 ints the first year in Arians system. And the great P. Manning had whopping 28 picks, yet Winston gets all this criticism in a system that is clearly high risk, high reward. And no credit for 5k yards and 33 tds.
    You guys are fooling yourself if you think the Bucs will insert a 43 year old Tom Brady and the Bucs will be successful and instantly make the playoffs. Brady threw 8 picks last year throwing 7 yards passes. What do you think he will do in this system?
    Can’t wait to see the excuses for Brady this year, be gets no protection, I can already hear it. Well, welcome to the NFL, Brady!
    Last year, he poor play was blamed on no talent in skill positions, yet Edleman was an NFL SB mvp. Also, we were always told, Brady does it with nobodies, right? McNabb had no weapons for years, but nobody ever gave him a pass, only constant criticism.
    Bucs will wish the kept Winston in the end and Brady will wish he stayed a system guy in NE.

  7. mikeyflovesthesausage says:
    April 2, 2020 at 6:55 am
    Actually Scam and Jameis leaving the south made it stronger, addition by subtraction

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    That’s probably the more accurate statement. Brady is never going to be great again for an extended period of time, but those 2 guys were obviously overrated prospects out of the gate, artificially hyped by the media.

  8. The Bucs won’t be gifting opposing teams double digit points anymore without Winston. That means opponents will have to earn all of their points now.

  9. True Dat!

    Welcome TB12. Good competitionin the NFC South prepares the winner for the playoffs

  10. nite2al says:
    April 2, 2020 at 9:24 am
    Funny how Palmer had 22 ints the first year in Arians system. And the great P. Manning had whopping 28 picks, yet Winston gets all this criticism in a system that is clearly high risk, high reward. And no credit for 5k yards and 33 tds.
    You guys are fooling yourself if you think the Bucs will insert a 43 year old Tom Brady and the Bucs will be successful and instantly make the playoffs. Brady threw 8 picks last year throwing 7 yards passes. What do you think he will do in this system?
    Can’t wait to see the excuses for Brady this year, be gets no protection, I can already hear it. Well, welcome to the NFL, Brady!
    Last year, he poor play was blamed on no talent in skill positions, yet Edleman was an NFL SB mvp. Also, we were always told, Brady does it with nobodies, right? McNabb had no weapons for years, but nobody ever gave him a pass, only constant criticism.
    Bucs will wish the kept Winston in the end and Brady will wish he stayed a system guy in NE.

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    Exactly. He took on all the sacks because of the system. It’s outdated. It’s why Ben took so many sacks with Pitt or why Luck’s career got ruined.

    People see what they want to see and Mr. Self Promotion (Arians) and his cute hats. has everyone fooled him his Chuck Strong coaching fill-in season.

    He’s bascially Todd Haley. A good OC, but an arrogant one.

  11. objectivefbfan says:
    April 2, 2020 at 5:33 am
    I think it is cute that people still think one player on a roster of 50+ people, 3 sides of the game (offense, defense, and special teams), coaching and schedule makes everything else immaterial. Defense won most of those championships, and I would argue BB won ALL of them. Tampa Bay is not the New England and Arians is not BB. And Brady is 43 years old.

    (Didn’t hit those 2018 incentives did he? Any of them.)

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    Let me start by sighing hard….

    Ok—now that we got that out of the way—let’s remember that all positions in all sports have widely varying levels of influence on wins and losses. Once ALL the major sports have been looked at, NFL Quarterback (specifically, NFL is by far the most important position with regard to game outcomes, for better or for worse. Simply by eradicating the game giveaways that Winston was capable of, Brady is a massive upgrade. Just with that alone. Now you can add the multitude of ways he affects the entire organization in culture, attitude, coaching, leadership, etc., and there will be a makeover in what is now expected each and every day on the way to the only goal worth going for. It will be infectious if he does it right, which he will.

    On the field, Brady is good for a 4 game swing vs. what Tampa Bay is used to. Vegas agrees, so please drop the nonsense that markedly better QB play doesn’t have the biggest influence on outcomes in sports, and remember the best to ever do it is taking over down there.

    You can have the best TEAM play the worst, and those stupid turnovers alone will skew wins and losses dramatically. Team has nothing to do with it, the QB does.

  12. Some of these Buccaneer players are talking Super Bowl already. However, it takes 53 guys to get it done, and Brady knows it. My guess is that it’s going to take at least a year for Brady and the Bucs to get used to one another before things come together in 2021.

  13. As a Dolphin fan I WISH the current Brady was STILL in the division.

    Now he leaves, when he’s got nothing left?

    The past is the past, the current Brady I’d welcome playing twice a year.

    Belichek knows what’s up.

  14. Finally, TB12 has actual QB competition in his own division. He and Drew should enjoy this and possibly play a few more years each.

  15. tb12greatest says:
    April 2, 2020 at 9:48 am
    Some of these Buccaneer players are talking Super Bowl already. However, it takes 53 guys to get it done, and Brady knows it. My guess is that it’s going to take at least a year for Brady and the Bucs to get used to one another before things come together in 2021.

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    BB runs his practices, meetings, etc, at like 3 times the speed of the Saints, for example, the former being a pretty good franchise.

    This means Brady is in for some serious culture shock and will get frustrated. Or, if Arians lets Brady lead, the players will be in total shock in which the level of expectation or speed in which Brady wants to go.

    With no OTAs, no camp, etc. It’s going to be a complete disaster with anyone with half a brain.

  16. Not since the early 2000s has the Bucs been a threat in the NFCS…
    Their choices at QB have been atrocious..
    Now The Bucs actually having quality at the QB position should be a game changer!

  17. (Didn’t hit those 2018 incentives did he? Any of them.)
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    At least Brady won the SB. I would put that at the top of the list rather than reaching incentives.

  18. tylawspick6 says:
    April 2, 2020 at 10:04 am
    tb12greatest says:
    April 2, 2020 at 9:48 am
    Some of these Buccaneer players are talking Super Bowl already. However, it takes 53 guys to get it done, and Brady knows it. My guess is that it’s going to take at least a year for Brady and the Bucs to get used to one another before things come together in 2021.

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    BB runs his practices, meetings, etc, at like 3 times the speed of the Saints, for example, the former being a pretty good franchise.

    This means Brady is in for some serious culture shock and will get frustrated. Or, if Arians lets Brady lead, the players will be in total shock in which the level of expectation or speed in which Brady wants to go.

    With no OTAs, no camp, etc. It’s going to be a complete disaster with anyone with half a brain.

    The offense will change for Brady, not the other way around (I’m guessing).

  19. The culture shock will be playing a schedule that will be orders of magnitude higher than the patriots have played over the last 20 years. Gone is the almost guaranteed 4-6 wins against the tomato cans of the AFC east (although bills are up-and coming now, that has not been the case in the past). At most, they played maybe 2 games a year during the season where they were evenly matched or an under dog (balt and KC last year).

    This year, if there is a season, he has to play NO twice, GB, KC, Minn for the credible playoff contenders. NYG is up and coming. Atlanta can be tough depending on the Moon phases that day. No OTAs or off-season this year to learn the new system, get in sync with receivers, etc. tampa is a vertical pass team, whereas he played a lateral dink-and-dunk the last few years with NE. If opposing teams press the receivers and throw off timing, Brady is going to get hit alot, he’s going to get sacked alot and throw the ball away alot. He wont throw more than 10 INTs this year, but i could see teams stack the box to stop the run, double evans and put their best CB on the other side, I can see alot of glares and temper tantrums from brady on the sidelines.

    Also, if you blitz TB up the middle, he is an average QB at best. The dink-n-dunk protected against this in NE, it will be different in tampa.

    With tampas schedule, I see them as a solid 8-8 or 9-7 team. maybe 10-6. But they’ll have their work cut out to make the playoffs, competition for division title will be NO, which are the odds on favorite for division. That leaves the Wild card, where SF/Seattle, Dallas/Phi, GB/Minn will be huge factors in who gets the wild card spots.

  20. Defense won most of those championships
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    objectivefbfan

    Ever thought of the reason BEHIND IT?

    The reason behind it is that good defenses in playoff take away big plays, so QB who played like MVP routinely failed in playoff, because they overwhelmingly depended on big plays. Once in playoff, they were suddenly in a situation where whatever they did in regular season didn’t work anymore.

    Brady didn’t depend on big plays to score, so what good defenses in playoff did to Peyton, Brees and Rodgers didn’t work against Brady.

    So it is Brady who won all the SB, because other MVP type QB couldn’t score 24 ore more in back to back games.

    Get it?

  21. bostonblows says:
    April 2, 2020 at 9:59 am
    As a Dolphin fan I WISH the current Brady was STILL in the division.

    Now he leaves, when he’s got nothing left?

    The past is the past, the current Brady I’d welcome playing twice a year.

    Belichek knows what’s up.

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    Good theory.

    Remember all those times Miami won the division with Brady and the Pats in the way for 20 years?

    I don’t either.

    The only reason Miami could maybe win the division is because Brady has finally left it.

  22. Remember last summer the Browns’ hype…they went from 7-9 to 6-10 and lost to the Bengals who were tanking!!!!

  23. With no OTAs, no camp, etc. It’s going to be a complete disaster with anyone with half a brain.
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    Now you can complain about everybody who plays bad this season its because they were not at OTAs.

  24. mulzii says:
    April 2, 2020 at 11:13 am
    The culture shock will be playing a schedule that will be orders of magnitude higher than the patriots have played over the last 20 years. Gone is the almost guaranteed 4-6 wins against the tomato cans of the AFC east

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    Since Brady has switched conferences and all, you might be new to this beaten-to-a-pulp argument, so I’ll grant that going in…

    Across all metrics, across all analyses, across a sample size larger than any ever recorded, the Patriots record against the AFC East vs. Every other division, conference, playoff situation, non-playoff situation, Prime time, nighttime, daytime, whether your Grandma was watching or not—is the same. It’s really well documented, so don’t let your human biases get in the way of math. Math is right.

    We all know that the rest of the AFC East wasn’t littered with juggernaut teams in the last 20 years (though the Jets had a few good squads about ten years ago), but those division games were often tough, and sweeping was often rare. It’s tough on anybody when the Pats are in your division. Look it up.

    Lastly, the NFC South isn’t a tough division. Brady will make short work of Atlanta and Carolina. New Orleans is the challenge. Not insurmountable either.

    I’d feel more confident In my prediction if Belichick was coaching Tampa Bay, but it’s probably not necessary based on the competition. I still think they’re the favorites now, or no less than neck-and-neck with The Saints.

  25. Gone is the almost guaranteed 4-6 wins against the tomato cans of the AFC east
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    Gone too is Brady having to play the winner’s schedule every year. You do know that when a team wins their division they play the winner of each conference in the AFC, right?

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