Tom Brady “probably knew” before 2019 season that he’d leave Patriots

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Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady‘s interview with Howard Stern on Wednesday got off to a rocky start thanks to a shaky Zoom connection, but they made a switch to a phone interview and things have been rolling along well since that point.

The conversation has covered a lot of ground as it moved from his high school days through his time with the Patriots, including his decision to leave the team as a free agent this offseason. Brady said that he felt he accomplished everything he could during his time in New England and that he felt “our time was coming to an end” heading into the 2019 season.

“I don’t think there was a final, final decision until it happened. I would say I probably knew before the start of last season,” Brady said on SiriusXM Radio.

While Brady was prepared to depart, the final cutting of the cord with the Patriots was still an emotional one. He told Stern that he cried while telling Patriots owner Robert Kraft in March that he would be leaving the team and said he still wants the team to do great.

The caveat to those wishes for the Patriots was that he would want them to lose in a Super Bowl matchup with the Bucs that would be as hotly anticipated as any in NFL history.

41 responses to “Tom Brady “probably knew” before 2019 season that he’d leave Patriots

  1. I had already mentioned that it was crystal clear that he was leaving, and he knew he was leaving looong ago. Him saying that he “probably” knew before last season confirms that. Of course, I was down voted for what seemed pretty obvious.

    My confusion is with all of the reporting. Since Brady decided to leave, he has been very open about the departure. Interview after interview, including this one, he has all but come out and said “I wanted to leave the Patriots”. But ever since the Super Bowl, every story was painting a picture of “Tom wants to stay but Bill is forcing him out”. Why did everyone try soooooo hard to create that narrative, only for Brady himself to smash it to pieces in the aftermath???

  2. Yeah and he sabotaged the 2019 season as a result.

    Truth.

    Worst qb play I have seen from him.

    2019, 2018, 2011,2002, 2009 (to be expected after missing a full season)

    those are the worst seasons i have seen from him

  3. Good that he’s admitting it now b/c he acted like it all season. The only time he smiled was those halcyon few days in September with Antonio Brown. The rest of the time, he pouted after wins, he was passive agressive and he gave short and vague non-answers to pretty much every question. I think he realizes it and that’s the reason for the recent stream of “remember the good times” social media posts: he knows many Pats fans lost some respect for him.

  4. Brady is the goat.

    But this will end horribly behind that Disastrous o line in Tampa.

    Did you have the weapons in New England? No. But you won 6 rings without top notch weapons.

    Brady will really miss that o line in New England (obviously Andrews was out all last season). And he will miss Belichick’s #1 defense based on points allowed per game.

    That patriots defense held teams to under 17 points in 11 of 16 games.

    The times the defense needed Brady to bail them out, Brady was 0-5 last season.

    The Bucs will be looking to Brady to Vail them out much more then Belichciks defense did in 2019, including Feb 2019 Super Bowl vs the Rams.

    All the best, Tom.

  5. You have to respect Brady’s belief in himself. Brady believes so strongly that he can be as great without Bill Belichick that he was willing to put his reputation and career stats on the line. Belichick probably believes Brady would never be as great without himself and his system, so Tom can walk if he wants to. At this point, the story has yet to unfold, but I have to pick Tom Brady as having the best chance (out of the two teams) to appear in the 2020 Super Bowl. The Patriots however…well…good luck.

  6. Old Stern would have asked epic questions about Gisele. This interview will focus more on Brady’s latest haircut. Sigh…..

  7. NE isn’t making the Superbowl, maybe not even the playoffs next season – if there is one.

  8. Yeah and he sabotaged the 2019 season as a result.

    If winning your division and being the #3 seed in the playoffs is sabotaging your season then he’s doing it wrong. You Pats fans need to understand you’re not going to win the SB every year.

  9. He knew it last August when they lowballed him and then never revisited the offer. He knew where he stood and that’s absolutely ok given his age. The Patriots do not pay on past performance, even when it’s Tom Brady.

    He’s free – to make as much as the market was willing to offer, and see what he can do in a new environment. His tremendous legacy is in tact as arguably the best to ever suit up in the NFL.

    Nothing wrong with it for the Pats, or the Bucs. Or the league.

  10. Bill Belichick is such an overrated roster builder. Their offensive skill position players are terrible (Sony Michel? Seriously?). It’s amazing Brady was able to carry them to the playoffs last year at his age.

    The Patriots honestly might have a bottom-5 roster talent wise right now, and they are going to be exposed without Brady this year. No question they finish under .500 this season. It’s gonna be a reality check for Pats fans.

  11. Han Brolo says:
    April 8, 2020 at 9:19 am
    I had already mentioned that it was crystal clear that he was leaving, and he knew he was leaving looong ago. Him saying that he “probably” knew before last season confirms that. Of course, I was down voted for what seemed pretty obvious.

    My confusion is with all of the reporting. Since Brady decided to leave, he has been very open about the departure. Interview after interview, including this one, he has all but come out and said “I wanted to leave the Patriots”. But ever since the Super Bowl, every story was painting a picture of “Tom wants to stay but Bill is forcing him out”. Why did everyone try soooooo hard to create that narrative, only for Brady himself to smash it to pieces in the aftermath???

    ———–

    He’s trying to save face here. He would have been back if the BB wanted him back and was willing to pay him like it.

  12. jasons81 says:
    April 8, 2020 at 10:02 am
    Yeah and he sabotaged the 2019 season as a result.

    If winning your division and being the #3 seed in the playoffs is sabotaging your season then he’s doing it wrong. You Pats fans need to understand you’re not going to win the SB every year.

    ————-

    In fact, it’s gonna be a lot of years before they get another one. Stidham/Hoyer ain’t gonna get you there.

  13. To the broski that said the Bucs line is terrible – PFF had them as top 10 in pass protection and that is on top of Jamie’s holding the ball wayyyyy too long. What do you think they’d be with someone that makes quick reads and gets the ball out of his hands. Their line is fine, especially once they get one of the best tackles in draft

  14. He knew the defense couldn’t carry him vs the Chiefs. So he ran to the NFC.

  15. But this will end horribly behind that Disastrous o line in Tampa.
    ———————————
    Belichick Dominated Joe Montana,

    #1, Just imagine super cheap Belichick to build an offense without a QB who has the skills to turn slot receivers into playmakers.
    #2, Just imagine super cheap Belichick to build an offense without a QB who needs only 3 seconds in pocket.
    #3, Just imagine that Belichick’s defense doesn’t get help from offense anymore, like no more scoring 17 points in first half, like no more playing only 27 minutes, like no more good field positions (Brady always got couple of first downs even when he struggled).
    #4, Just imagine that in those close games when he needs his QB to score a TD or a FG in last 2 minutes.

    Those are the problems for every coach, but not for Belichick, because he had Tom Brady.
    Now no QB or receiver or defenders will take paycut to join Pats, and Belichick couldn’t put together a stable offense even with the paycut from Brady.

    Belichick will be exposed.

  16. But this will end horribly behind that Disastrous o line in Tampa.

    ———————————

    This is typical comment from clueless fans.

    Every line can protect a QB who gets rid of balls within 3 seconds.

    It is all about if Brady is able to find receivers to throw to within 3 seconds.

    With the talents Bucs have, that should be problem, and Bucs line will be among top 5 next season.

  17. He knew the defense couldn’t carry him vs the Chiefs. So he ran to the NFC
    —————————————————–

    Chiefs WR wore out 49ers defenders, not Mahomes.

    BTW, Brady played 39 minutes against Chiefs in AFCCG, and 49ers offense played only 27 points.

    If Pats defense had been as good as 49ers defense, Mahomes would have been exposed.

  18. In fact, it’s gonna be a lot of years before they get another one. Stidham/Hoyer ain’t gonna get you there
    ———–
    I don’t know about that? Since 2008 when Brady missed the season with a knee injury BB has gone 14-5 when the Tom Brady is not the starting QB.

    BB won 74% of his games with Cassel, Jimmy G and Brissett.

  19. ikeclanton says:
    April 8, 2020 at 10:19 am
    He knew it last August when they lowballed him and then never revisited the offer
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    I thought Brady didn’t care about money. At least according to Patriot fans.

  20. factschecker says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:01 am
    In fact, it’s gonna be a lot of years before they get another one. Stidham/Hoyer ain’t gonna get you there
    ———–
    I don’t know about that? Since 2008 when Brady missed the season with a knee injury BB has gone 14-5 when the Tom Brady is not the starting QB.

    BB won 74% of his games with Cassel, Jimmy G and Brissett.

    3 0 Rate This

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    They hate facts.

    They also like to dump other people’s ineptitude (Modell/Browns or Grier/Carroll’s) into BB’s lap for some odd reason.

  21. He should have notified delusional Pat’s fans while every sign was there just like every sign was there that he was a bad QB last year. Oh, that was ignored too.

  22. William Lee says:
    April 8, 2020 at 10:49 am
    He knew the defense couldn’t carry him vs the Chiefs. So he ran to the NFC
    —————————————————–

    Chiefs WR wore out 49ers defenders, not Mahomes.

    BTW, Brady played 39 minutes against Chiefs in AFCCG, and 49ers offense played only 27 points.

    If Pats defense had been as good as 49ers defense, Mahomes would have been exposed.

    0 1 Rate This

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    Umm he was exposed.

    NE gave up 20 points to KC. If you are holding a great offense to 20 points in this era, you’re doing a great job and your team should win. Jerome Boger blocked 2 different TDs by the Pats within 3 minutes of one another.

    Do you people watch the games?

  23. tylawspick6 says:
    April 8, 2020 at 9:21 am
    Yeah and he sabotaged the 2019 season as a result.

    Truth.

    Worst qb play I have seen from him.

    2019, 2018, 2011,2002, 2009 (to be expected after missing a full season)

    those are the worst seasons i have seen from him
    ———
    Really annoyed me to hear the admission that he ignored receivers outside of his circle of trust. Not the Pats problem anymore.

  24. I don’t know about that? Since 2008 when Brady missed the season with a knee injury BB has gone 14-5 when the Tom Brady is not the starting QB.

    —————————

    That is very stupid argument.

    The schedule in 2008 was as easy as that in the first half of 2019 season that Jets, Bills and Phins won 19 out of 30 against non AFCE teams.

    2008 season actually proved that without Brady, Pats were just another AFCE team, even with Moss.

  25. William Lee says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:46 am
    I don’t know about that? Since 2008 when Brady missed the season with a knee injury BB has gone 14-5 when the Tom Brady is not the starting QB.

    —————————

    That is very stupid argument.

    The schedule in 2008 was as easy as that in the first half of 2019 season that Jets, Bills and Phins won 19 out of 30 against non AFCE teams.

    2008 season actually proved that without Brady, Pats were just another AFCE team, even with Moss.

    ———-
    And without Belichick they’d be 2-14 like the Colts were without Manning.

  26. The schedule in 2008 was as easy as that in the first half of 2019 season that Jets, Bills and Phins won 19 out of 30 against non AFCE teams.
    ——–
    The 2008 Pats beat
    12-4 Steelers 33-3
    12-4 defending Champs NY Giants 35-14
    11-5 Dolphins 43-0

    Yeah. We stunk going 11-5.

  27. GoodellMustGo:

    Colts tanked to get river.

    The 2-14 coach was hired only 2 weeks after being fired.

    BTW, it is nightmare to be a backup QB for a 1-dimensional QB, because he will suck 100% if he can’t do what starting QB is able to do.

  28. tylawspick6 says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:32 am

    factschecker says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:01 am
    In fact, it’s gonna be a lot of years before they get another one. Stidham/Hoyer ain’t gonna get you there
    ———–
    I don’t know about that? Since 2008 when Brady missed the season with a knee injury BB has gone 14-5 when the Tom Brady is not the starting QB.

    BB won 74% of his games with Cassel, Jimmy G and Brissett.

    3 0 Rate This

    ———————–

    They hate facts.

    They also like to dump other people’s ineptitude (Modell/Browns or Grier/Carroll’s) into BB’s lap for some odd reason.
    ================================================================================
    BB benched QB Vinnie Testaverde for 5 ft nothing Eric Zeier when Testaverde was the 3rd rated QB in the AFC. BB took over a Browns team that had just went to the AFC championship game 2 years prior.

    Funny how Modell’s “ineptitude” didn’t prevent the Browns from going to 3 AFC championship games prior to BB’s hiring as head coach. BB took the Browns to the playoffs once in 5 years. BB was 5-11 the year before he started Brady. The only reason BB started Brady at all was that Drew Bledsoe had a major injury. BB didn’t become a “genius” until Brady fell in his lap as a 6th round fluke all-time great, 1st ballot HOF’er.

  29. just be happy you played in the weakest division in football for your entire career.

  30. factschecker says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:59 am
    The schedule in 2008 was as easy as that in the first half of 2019 season that Jets, Bills and Phins won 19 out of 30 against non AFCE teams.
    ——–
    The 2008 Pats beat
    12-4 Steelers 33-3
    12-4 defending Champs NY Giants 35-14
    11-5 Dolphins 43-0

    Yeah. We stunk going 11-5.

    ——
    Those scores were from this season. But the 2008 Patriots with Cassel in the month of December went 4-0, beating the Seahawks in Seattle (Tampa Bay Tommy never did that), then hammered the Raiders in Oakland 49-26, then obliterated the soon to be NFC Champion Cardinals 47-7, then shut out the Bills in Buffalo 13-0. Cassel also had back to back 400 yard passing games, something Tampa Bay Tommy up to that point never did either.

    Yes the schedule wasn’t tough but the team was starting to peak and might have caused some damage in the playoffs if they didn’t run out of games. That was Bill. Compare that to the Colts in 2011 again without Manning and a subpar coach.

  31. William Lee says:
    April 8, 2020 at 12:01 pm
    GoodellMustGo:

    Colts tanked to get river.

    The 2-14 coach was hired only 2 weeks after being fired.

    BTW, it is nightmare to be a backup QB for a 1-dimensional QB, because he will suck 100% if he can’t do what starting QB is able to do.

    ——-
    I agree. Thankfully we have the greatest coach in the game who understands that just like he did in 08 and that’s why I believe we will be fine.

    Also Colts didn’t tank. Teams don’t do that in the NFL.

  32. I agree. Thankfully we have the greatest coach in the game who understands that just like he did in 08 and that’s why I believe we will be fine.

    ————————

    GoodellMustGo,

    Can you explain how he can stay “great” without a QB who can turn cheap slot receivers into playmakers? You do know that now no players will take pay cut to join in Pats, don’t you?
    ———————

    Belichick changed the offense system in 2007, under a new system like Peyton’s, Brady had to hold balls longer for big plays, which led to 7 years of misery in playoff.

    His cheapness cost SB trip in 2006. His letting Chandler Jones and Jamie Collion go almost cost a SB if not because of 37 minutes from Brady and stupid mistakes by Falcons. His ego cost SB against Eagles. He almost traded Gronk away before 2018 season.

  33. ty,

    You think it is very easy to score 24 points, even without a top tier receiver, don’t you?

  34. tylawspick6 says:
    April 8, 2020 at 9:21 am
    Yeah and he sabotaged the 2019 season as a result.

    Truth.

    —–

    BB sabotaged this coming season by putting the Patriots in Cap Hell and paying $25M to two guys that are no longer even on the team. Perhaps Kraft should hire a real GM and let BB stick to coaching.

  35. Those scores were from this season. But the 2008 Patriots with Cassel in the month of December went 4-0, beating the Seahawks in Seattle
    ——–
    You are absolutely correct.
    I did try to post a retraction once I noticed the first game wasn’t KC but it didn’t get through. I googled 2008 NFL standings and the top link was NFL.com it was incorrect.

  36. Those scores were from this season. But the 2008 Patriots with Cassel in the month of December went 4-0, beating the Seahawks in Seattle
    ___________________________

    and lost to Chargers and Steelers, the two teams owned by Brady.

  37. And he wasted a historic defense and special teams along the way. Good riddance Tom!

  38. patriotmaleorgy says:
    April 8, 2020 at 11:05 am
    ikeclanton says:
    April 8, 2020 at 10:19 am
    He knew it last August when they lowballed him and then never revisited the offer
    —————————-
    I thought Brady didn’t care about money. At least according to Patriot fans

    ———-

    Everyone cares about money. “Not caring about money” is a relative statement. Brady cares about it less that anyone at his level and accomplishment, where he has no equal. He’s been paid below market value his entire career, and done that for the betterment of the team. He’s conservatively left 50-100 million on the table.

    When you’re disrespected with an even lower number as he was last summer with no revisiting the discussion, you know where they will and won’t go. Belichick (the most disciplined guy in football) was making a statement that the Pats will not overpay at QB when the QB (Tom Brady no less) is 43.

    If this was your ridiculously poorly managed team, the owner and coach would have caved to public sentiment and opened the vault to keep him—crippling the next potential wave of team success. But then again, that’s why the Pats have been the best run organization in sports and yours, to put it nicely, has not been.

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