Report: Dolphins trying to get to third pick without giving up fifth

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The Dolphins might not be trying to move up in the draft to take a tackle instead of a quarterback.

They may be trying to take a tackle in addition to a quarterback.

According to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, the Dolphins have talked about acquiring the third pick which belongs to the Lions, without necessarily giving up their own fifth overall pick.

Going by a traditional version of the draft value trade chart, the third pick is worth 2,200 points, and the fifth is worth 1,700.

To come up with something resembling value without sacrificing five, the Dolphins would likely have to offer both their remaining firsts (the 18th worth 900 points and the 26th worth 700) and then some to get a deal done. Throwing in the 39th pick (510 points) gets it close.

Not every team uses the same chart though, and there are other models that would suggest giving up 18 and 26 for the third pick is an overpayment.

Ultimately, the decision will be made by the Lions, and whatever they might be able to squeeze out of someone else (like the Giants who pick fourth). Or, they might not want to drop out of the top 16 picks. Or, this might all be a smokescreen.

Either way, the Dolphins appear to be aggressively pursuing some major upgrades, which is the kind of thing you do when you strip down a roster for future draft assets the way they did last year. Having six of the first 70 picks and 14 total choices this year gives them the kind of flexibility to make bold moves.

21 responses to “Report: Dolphins trying to get to third pick without giving up fifth

  1. If they somehow got the 3rd pick without giving up their 5th pick I’d say base would likely be the 18th, 26th and a small rotation/depth type player and then the teams would trade low future picks to even out

  2. other first this year, first (overall) next year, and the first (overall again) the year after should get it done.

  3. If they have picks 3 and 5, thats over $20 million against the cap for their draft class, assuming they don’t trade away any picks other than their late first-rounders

  4. Getting Tua without a great tackle would be foolish. Getting Andrew Thomas and Tuo would be transformational.

  5. Better option would be to trade 18 & 26 to Arizona for #8 & 114. Still get a QB & OT with #5 & #8 and doesn’t cost them nearly as much.

  6. The Dolphins could own the first 5 picks and they’d still blow. I’m not joking. Very sad.

  7. Chris Grier is going to blow this really bad. Many of you fins fans don’t like Josh Rosen but guess who traded a 2nd and a 5th for Rosen only to decide after 4 games that Rosen is useless. This isn’t going to end well. You just don’t throw around players and draft picks like Grier does. Grier is clueless and so is Ross who hired him.

  8. As a Lions fan, the only way I trade out of number 3 is to get pick 18, 26, 39, plus a second rounder next year. But it’s the Lions, no way do they get a deal done of this quality…

  9. So the Dolphins traded their best running back, number 2 receiver, and best oline man and the offense finished 25th in the league. 3 offensive starters. OC gets fired. The Dolphins traded one defensive starter and the defense finished last in the league but Flores kept his job and the DC got hired as the Giants DC. Anything else I’m missing?

  10. tylawspick6 says:
    April 22, 2020 at 5:04 pm
    Chris Grier is a moron. His dad didn’t understand the cap either
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    You’re absolutely correct. They gave up a 2nd and a 5th for a back up qbs who will probably get cut.

  11. I also root for the Dolphins in order to continuity with the bottom dwelling NFL teams, along with my last place Lions and Raiders.

    One Nation, Raiders/Lions/Dolphins Nation.

  12. Generally, Every Time That Hierarchical Establishments Force Uneven, Crazy Knucklehead Outcomes Undermines Trust

  13. Bob Quinn on trading back past elite group of players “You better win that trade on the value chart double” last two firsts and two seconds and next years first at least. Not happening..

  14. ishudbgm says:
    April 22, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    Chris Grier is going to blow this really bad. Many of you fins fans don’t like Josh Rosen but guess who traded a 2nd and a 5th for Rosen only to decide after 4 games that Rosen is useless. This isn’t going to end well. You just don’t throw around players and draft picks like Grier does. Grier is clueless and so is Ross who hired him.
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    ^^^^ THIS.

    How can people down-vote this post?? You just don’t DO what the Dolphins did last year – blow smoking craters ALL OVER your roster – and then come in during the offseason and make a deal that gives you FAR FEWER picks than you “earned” with all those ridiculous trades. It’s stupidity!

    These people are going to turn 3 HIGH picks into ONE??

    No. That’s how you stay in the cellar.

  15. jackedupboonie says:
    April 22, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    Half of all first rd picks are busts. Lets keep some perspective here-
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    So, given that, you think it’s wise to have only 2 picks in rd 1 instead of 3? With no 2nd rounder to try to gloss over any major mistakes?

  16. This draft is loaded with O-LINEMEN especially TACKLES. No need to give up the other first round picks. Its not rocket science. Take Tua at 5, then the best TACKLE at 18.

  17. If the Dolphins can get #3 without giving up #5 the people at the LIONS should be fired immediately.

    As a GIANTS fan I don’t want the Dolphins jumping up in front of me to take an OT, but if they did that and gave up their other two first rounders and a second, that would be impressive.

    If I am the GIANTS and they jump me for an OT, I let Carolina or Jacksonville come up to #4 and grab Tua, just to stick it back to them.

  18. “If I am the GIANTS and they jump me for an OT, I let Carolina or Jacksonville come up to #4 and grab Tua, just to stick it back to them.”

    So then you just take Herbert. Oh my that is just horrible.LOL

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