Missing Russell Wilson made Eagles jump on Jalen Hurts

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It’s not that the Eagles necessarily think quarterback Jalen Hurts is going to turn into Russell Wilson.

But memories of missing out on Wilson in the 2012 NFL Draft played a part in the Eagles using a second-round pick on Hurts this year, a decision which has drawn a mixed response considering the contract they gave starting quarterback Carson Wentz.

Eagles General Manager Howie Roseman told John Clark of NBCSportsPhiladelphia.com that he didn’t want to risk losing a player he had targeted. In 2012, his hope was to draft Russell Wilson in the third round and then Nick Foles in the fourth. The Seahawks took Wilson 75th overall,  leaving the Eagles to take Foles 88th overall so they didn’t miss out completely.

In 2012, we had a vision,” Roseman said. “We had a vision that we would draft a quarterback who’s been extremely successful, and I don’t want tampering charges on me but I think we can understand who that was, and then come back in the fourth round and draft a quarterback who won a world championship for us and go back-to-back. And I feel like we got a little cute. And I don’t know that there’s a big difference between taking the 53rd pick in the draft and taking a pick in the third round if you feel strongly about a guy.”

The Eagles had a pair of second-round picks in 2012, and used the 46th overall choice on Mychal Kendricks and the 59th on Vinny Curry. While both those players have their merits, it’s hard to argue they’ve been more valuable than Wilson would have been.

The Eagles have insisted that the selection of Hurts doesn’t change the way they view Wentz. But the way they view the quarterback position has changed over the years, and Roseman doesn’t want to get caught short there again.

29 responses to “Missing Russell Wilson made Eagles jump on Jalen Hurts

  1. The only conclusion is that they think the jury is still out on Wentz.

    This isn’t a case like GB where your starter is 36.

  2. Remember when Russell Wilson gave New England a Suoer bowl title?

    That really needs to be associated with him more.

  3. Howie really should stop talking about this pick. It sounds like more of a reach every time he opens his mouth about it.

  4. The Eagles drafted Nick Foles instead of Wilson…they each have 1 Super Bowl win. How is that missing out?

  5. I don’t get the point in GMs beating themselves up over this stuff after the fact, especially a guy like Roseman who’s been around a bit.

    There’s no crystal ball. No one really knows how good a player will be before they’re drafted. I’m sure the Browns thought Brandon Weeden might be good, Broncos though Osweiler might be good QB, and the Colts thought that Luck would still be playing for them 10 years later. All wrong.

  6. It’s not that expensive to trade up in the third round compared to the first round. Had how we really believed in Russell Wilson he could easily have traded up. swap 3rd round picks and throw in a 5th round pick or something like that.

  7. Wilson didnt give NE the SB … Lockette the receiver didnt go after the high pass like he is paid to do on a slant pattern … Carroll was outcoached …

  8. Nobody-

    Howie Roseman-“Guys I have this PowerPoint presentation and all these big pie charts to help explain why this pick was not in fact a reach please just direct your attention here”

  9. “We had a vision that we would draft a quarterback who’s been extremely successful, and I don’t want tampering charges on me but I think we can understand who that was, and then come back in the fourth round and draft a quarterback who won a world championship for us and go back-to-back. And I feel like we got a little cute. And I don’t know that there’s a big difference between taking the 53rd pick in the draft and taking a pick in the third round if you feel strongly about a guy.”

    Attention Packers fans. Gute liked AJ Dillon A LOT. He had a 3rd round grade. Those of you saying we overdrafted him….. tell me how he makes it all the way through the 3rd round? He doesn’t.

  10. Green Bay drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd Round in 2008. Why didn’t the world burn down when a QB was drafted in round 2 for a team that already had an entrenched starter?

    Y’all don’t understand value. It applies to the QB position the same as any other position. You draft value.

  11. It never made sense to draft a IAA player so high! At least Hurts had the talent to play major-conference, D1 football, unlike Wentz!

  12. Wentz must be fuming that he is being told he isn’t as good as Russell Wilson & the Eagles want to correct the “Miss” so much that they drafted a QB that is compared to “potentially” be another Wilson.

  13. Yea, no. Unless you are saying he is your future starting QB, that’s ridiculous and also a lot of survivor bias.

    I think every GM has a pick that they didn’t make that worked out for another team but the situations aren’t even comparable.

    It’s also not like Foles doesn’t have the same number of super bowls as Wilson and Wilson is only valuable because he ended up the starting QB. If you think Wilson would be who he is in the league if he had to sit behind Matt Flynn for a couple of years, you are dreaming. The Seahawks would probably be still searching for that Super bowl and Wilson might still be married to his 1st wife.

  14. bostonblows says:
    April 28, 2020 at 8:27 am
    Remember when Russell Wilson gave New England a Suoer bowl title?

    That really needs to be associated with him more.
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    Actually, I blame the coaches for making the dumbest call you can make. Lynch was running all over the Patriots. More risk in pass plays than running plays.

  15. You think Philly fans of all people would understand the value of a solid backup QB. This and GB’s picks are very smart since we are talking about the modt important position in the game. Other positions can be plugged in by 2nd tiers players in a pinch. Not QB.

  16. The Eagles know that the last time they won a SB, Wentz was on crutches and the guy at the helm was not Nate Sudfeld or Josh McCown level talent.

    That’s the whole reason they did this.

    No need to over think it.

  17. >eaglesfanalways says:
    >April 28, 2020 at 8:48 am

    >The Eagles drafted Nick Foles instead of Wilson…they each have 1 Super Bowl win. How >is that missing out?

    What’s that? You say that Foles has the Eagles in the playoffs every year (with the exception of one) since he was drafted? Oh, he got benched? Oh, he got traded? Oh, he got traded again? Yeah, I’d say having a QB that is long gone from the franchise instead of one that is a perennial playoff contender is definitely missing out.

    Foles is on his 5th team (6th if you want to count Philly twice) while Wilson 8 years later is still the most valuable member of the Seahawks. Now I’m don’t want to talk bad about Foles because he’s a great guy and a good quarterback, but he’s no Russell Wilson.

  18. “Wilson didnt give NE the SB … Lockette the receiver didnt go after the high pass like he is paid to do on a slant pattern … Carroll was outcoached …”

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    You’re right, Carroll was outcoached, but Lockette was blocked by Brandon Browner, who enabled Butler to make the play. NE saw it coming, but it was a pretty easy play call to anticipate, considering how common it is. Maybe they should have run it with Lynch, but if they wanted to pass, a playaction with their mobile QB should have been the call. What’s done is done though.

  19. packers291 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 9:15 am

    Attention Packers fans. Gute liked AJ Dillon A LOT. He had a 3rd round grade. Those of you saying we overdrafted him….. tell me how he makes it all the way through the 3rd round? He doesn’t.
    _____________

    If Gutey gave him a third-round grade, why did he take him in the second round? If you’re worried about missing out on him, trade up in the third round. Keep in mind the other teams aren’t using Gutey’s draft board. You never know what somebody else might think of him, but there tends to be a consensus on what players are worth a first- or second-round pick and those players pretty much correspond to what the draft “experts” say. Those guys are easy to identify. Nobody had Dillon going that high. And if Gutey loved him so much, why was he so desperately trying to trade up to get a receiver?

  20. packers291 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 9:17 am

    Green Bay drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd Round in 2008. Why didn’t the world burn down when a QB was drafted in round 2 for a team that already had an entrenched starter?
    _________

    Entrenched starter? Rodgers hadn’t even started a game in his career when Brohm was drafted. They picked him because they were worried Rodgers wasn’t going to be any good.

  21. This whole game within a game of predicting where you can get the guys you want is pretty funny. If the Eagles wanted Wilson…..they had 2-3 chances before Seattle selected him. But the so called mark of a great GM within the sport circle is ‘not reaching’ too early for your guy- It’s like coveting the hole in one….perfection is elusive yet it is too big of a draw not to keep trying.

  22. That makes about as much sense as the Packers drafting Love because it worked with Rodgers/Favre back in 2005. Lightening doesn’t strike twice.

  23. When he having a cheap backup with start potential a bad thing? He is insurance for Wentz and in this league AND Carsons injuries… this was a great move. There is no way he makes it to pick 103. I guarantee if not NE, Dallas would have taken him in the 3rd with the Dak situation. Great pick.

  24. This is why you should never trade up to draft another player…trading up for Carlson Wince is the only reason the Iggles didn’t stick with Foles…They simply couldn’t justify not playing Wince after giving up so much draft capital…We’re seeing other teams pay the price for trading away draft capital…with Tunsil holding the Texans hostage for a ridiculous contract and Jalen Ramsey has the Rams over a barrell…He is about to get paid QB money…what are the Rams gonna do…? Not sign him while losing 2 first round picks in the process…? #Idiots

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