NFL: Tom Brady’s meeting with Byron Leftwich wasn’t a violation

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The NFL has spoken. Even if plenty of teams won’t be buying it.

After repeated requests for comment from PFT regarding last week’s news that Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady wandered into the wrong house while trying to meet with offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich, the league has issued a statement regarding the question of whether the meeting violated offseason rules: “We made an inquiry and determined there was no violation. It was a brief personal visit and Tom picked up the playbook.”

The inquiry may have been limited to simply asking Brady what he was doing and accepting his response at face value, something the league definitely wasn’t inclined to do five years ago when pursuing the scorched-earth — and scientifically flawed — #DeflateGate investigation. The inquiry may not have included meaningful follow-up questions, like this one: “Why did you need to go pick up the playbook when the playbook is on an iPad and they could have just sent it to your house?”

Or this one: “Why did you have duffel bags and what was in them?”

There’s been a palpable sense in league circles that the Buccaneers are playing fast and loose with the rules when it comes to both the courtship of Tom Brady and the effort to get him up to speed for the 2020 season. And it’s safe to say that people with other teams who complained about Brady meeting with Leftwich will not be placated by the league’s statement, especially since some believe that any meeting with a coach before the offseason program starts, especially away from the team’s facility, violates the rules.

Then there’s the fact that the league glossed over the fact that Brady’s trip to Leftwich’s house violated the relevant stay-at-home order in Florida. Given that the league (along with ESPN, the NFLPA, and everyone in the media) similarly glossed over the fact that multiple agents violated stay-at-home orders to travel to the homes of draft picks in order to get a few free seconds of TV time on Thursday and Friday night, that really isn’t a surprise.

108 responses to “NFL: Tom Brady’s meeting with Byron Leftwich wasn’t a violation

  1. good, be done with this. and regarding the duffel bags, they could be anything. not illegal to have bags with you.

  2. of course not, he was no longer playing for a coach and team annually dominating a bunch of jealous owners crying to goodel.

  3. Wow. Goodell.

    If Brady did this a Pats uni, there is no question NE would be docked a draft pick.

    Amazing to watch Goodell cheat like this.

    I am a diehard Pats fan, but this is a clear cut violation at this particular time based on NFL’s current policy.

    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady and the NFL to enable stupid people to pretend social distancing should not be taken very seriously. What on earth happened to these people’s college degrees? Seriously.

    Why do people reject fact and science? It’s bad enough our president does it.

  4. What do you think the NFL are going to do… slow this thing down. It’s one of the few revenue generating things that is happening in the entire world of sports. The NFL and some of the media have been trying to pry Brady away from the Patriots for years and finally got their wish and the money will be insane. They aren’t going to come down hard on Tampa for anything. That’s for sure.

  5. The duffel bag was probably full of footballs and he was giving Leftwich a tutorial on how to properly deflate them so the equipment guys can get trained properly before the season.

  6. You know that this means nothing. The NFL doesn’t even play fair with its rules for anything. Repeat drug or domestic abusers are routinely slapped on the wrist. The Green Bay Packers cheat to gain yards they cannot do without using the defensive pre-snap penalty loophole. There is nothing here. Rules? Don’t matter jack.

  7. Enough crying, and enough end of the world lock yourself in your basement, and never come out nonsense. Lets get back to football

  8. What would we do without you policing the football world for every tickytak violation of constitutionally sketchy stay at home orders? Thank you for your service!

  9. arealisticpackerfan says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    The duffel bag was probably full of footballs and he was giving Leftwich a tutorial on how to properly deflate them so the equipment guys can get trained properly before the season.

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    Right, and the tooth fairy left you $5 under your pillow last night for a Hungry Man dinner for your mom to microwave tonight in that basement of yours.

    Please do not use a computer if your IQ is below 100.

  10. There’s been a palpable sense in league circles that the Buccaneers are playing fast and loose with the rules when it comes to both the courtship of Tom Brady and the effort to get him up to speed for the 2020 season.
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    Impossible!!! The Patriots are the only team in the history of the NFL to ever bend, or break, or even approach the limits of a rule. At least that is what fans of 31 other teams have lead me to believe. And since New England is the only team that “the league bends over backwards for, to allow them to just cheat and cheat and cheat”, there is obviously nothing to see here. The Bucs dont get preferential treatment, so the evidence is clear that nothing improper occurred…

  11. bullcharger says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    What do you think the NFL are going to do… slow this thing down. It’s one of the few revenue generating things that is happening in the entire world of sports. The NFL and some of the media have been trying to pry Brady away from the Patriots for years and finally got their wish and the money will be insane. They aren’t going to come down hard on Tampa for anything. That’s for sure.

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    Goodell has been the facilitator of trying to weaken NE for 15 years. It’s why he was hired.

    BB and NE’s dynastic runs have actually slowed the growth of the league, so teams knew if they used the media to plant a story, Goodell might run with it if he could sell it to the jealous, pitchfork public who are too dumb or don’t care.

    Framegate I and II are the exact same story. They’re lies to be able to steal picks. It’s old news now, but if Brady was still on the Pats, there’s no question, he would be stealing a pick and making an example. 100% no question about it.

    This is how he cheats.

    It’s no different than him saying Miami using technology (CBS field audio) to steal Brady’s audibles in December of 2006, to win 21-0, as “perfectly legal”, but if NE did that, it would be a story, a fake controversy and picks stolen simply by owners calling Goodell and demanding it bed done.

    This is not an opinion, but a fact. We have proof he applies the rules differently to different teams and this is another clear cut example.

  12. First of all, Tom Brady isn’t meeting with anybody to get “their” playbook. There’s going to be a new playbook as soon as Tom has it finished. And it will be a work in progress as Tom discovers more and more of what each guy can do.

  13. lesepi says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:48 am
    You know that this means nothing. The NFL doesn’t even play fair with its rules for anything. Repeat drug or domestic abusers are routinely slapped on the wrist. The Green Bay Packers cheat to gain yards they cannot do without using the defensive pre-snap penalty loophole. There is nothing here. Rules? Don’t matter jack.

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    It’s why he looked the other way with Ray Rice on Baltimore or Suggs, or Hunt or Hill on KC.

    They’re AFC teams. Look at the teams he protects. It’s easy to see what he’s doing after being caught so many times. As if they or KC couldn’t have called the hotel to see Hunt on security footage we know exists?

    If Hunt was on the Pats, he’d be forced to be cut, not that Kraft wouldn’t do it on his own anyway. NE does not back violent offenders like other teams do. It’s a fact. They had had Hernandez cut before he was even arrested. That’s a fact.

    That’s the pattern. He helps AFC teams and goes after NE when he can, to try to level out the playing field. Been going on for 15 years with rule changes targeting NE, you name it.

    It’s also why Goodell forced Kraft to cut Antonio Brown last year. I knew it would happen.

    Why? Because I know Goodell cheats. If Brown wasn’t cut, NE probably goes back to the SB.

    His cheating is more like a hidden thing for some people who can’t see it. How many more examples do we need?

    If Brady did this right now as the NE QB, NE gets docked a pick. It’s not a debate, it’s the reality of Cheater Goodell’s NFL.

  14. tylawspick6 says:

    Right, and the tooth fairy left you $5 under your pillow last night for a Hungry Man dinner for your mom to microwave tonight in that basement of yours.
    Please do not use a computer if your IQ is below 100.
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    Pot meet kettle

  15. No one in Florida is staying home.

    People are out and about all day every day.

    Just so you know.

    You can stop acting like a person should be shamed or arrested for going outside.

  16. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    Wow. Goodell.

    If Brady did this a Pats uni, there is no question NE would be docked a draft pick.

    Amazing to watch Goodell cheat like this.

    I am a diehard Pats fan, but this is a clear cut violation at this particular time based on NFL’s current policy.

    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady and the NFL to enable stupid people to pretend social distancing should not be taken very seriously. What on earth happened to these people’s college degrees? Seriously.

    Why do people reject fact and science? It’s bad enough our president does it.

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    I think this demonstrates that the real target all along of the league’s ire with these fabricated “scandals” is not Brady or the New England Patriots in particular, but Belichick himself.

    It’s almost like there’s a grudge against him by the Jet-loving 345 Park Avenue since he said no to their beloved Jets 20 years ago. Nah couldn’t be….

  17. arealisticpackerfan says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    The duffel bag was probably full of footballs and he was giving Leftwich a tutorial on how to properly deflate them so the equipment guys can get trained properly before the season.
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    Perhaps think about investing in some new material man. This type of 3rd grade level humor is a bigger pandemic than Covid! Come on people – put some of that brain to use!

  18. I think we’re all glad we aren’t neighbors with Mike Florio. We’d get turned into local authorities for venturing outside our property.

  19. clownjoetoronto says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Right, and the tooth fairy left you $5 under your pillow last night for a Hungry Man dinner for your mom to microwave tonight in that basement of yours.
    Please do not use a computer if your IQ is below 100.
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    Pot meet kettle

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    Umm, I don’t think you know what that phrase means. Boy, this is awkward. Think Veronica Corningstone/Ron Burgundy awkward when she’s telling him San Diego was not founded by the Germans level awkward.

    LOL

    I’ve been on to Goodell since Framegate I. Any smart person would be at this point. He’s a liar and he’s a cheater. He is the cheater.

    If Tom Brady was in direct contact with McDaniels or any player on his team right now, NE would be docked a pick based on Goodell caving into the pressure and to be able to keep his job as the crook he is.

    Goodell has stolen SB wins from NE, by stealing draft picks. They probably win SB 46 and SB 52, with their picks on the field in those games. He’s a cheater and he does right in front of the NFL customer.

  20. If Tom did this or did that in a Patriots uniform … There, there, now lets not cry every time someone mentions his name. You just don’t have to worry about that… He’s not in Patriots uniform anymore. Run along now go play with your toys.

  21. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    Wow. Goodell.

    If Brady did this a Pats uni, there is no question NE would be docked a draft pick.

    Amazing to watch Goodell cheat like this.
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    Too funny. When Brady was on the Pats, you defended the Pats and Brady regardless of what he did or the Pats did. Now that he’s with Tampa, it’s magically cheating?

    Too funny. Talk about being a Homer.

  22. GoodellMustGo says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:24 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    Wow. Goodell.

    If Brady did this a Pats uni, there is no question NE would be docked a draft pick.

    Amazing to watch Goodell cheat like this.

    I am a diehard Pats fan, but this is a clear cut violation at this particular time based on NFL’s current policy.

    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady and the NFL to enable stupid people to pretend social distancing should not be taken very seriously. What on earth happened to these people’s college degrees? Seriously.

    Why do people reject fact and science? It’s bad enough our president does it.

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    I think this demonstrates that the real target all along of the league’s ire with these fabricated “scandals” is not Brady or the New England Patriots in particular, but Belichick himself.

    It’s almost like there’s a grudge against him by the Jet-loving 345 Park Avenue since he said no to their beloved Jets 20 years ago. Nah couldn’t be….

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    What’s funny is how much evidence there is out there that anyone can see.

    The Two Bills documentary had me stunned, hearing that 345 Park Ave’s greed about NY having TWO great teams with great coaches would mean more money for the league, and thery were behind the Jets trying to get Parcells and the tampering that went on, distracting the team and losing to the Packers in SB 31. It’s disgusting. The info is out there and the jig has long been up.

    Even going into SB 52 vs Philly I knew he’d do something, then you throw on the fact 2 draft picks were not there for NE that year to help in that SB due to Framegate II and Goodell caught lying in a federal court (again), and then the Clement TD with a smirking Steratore, as everyone in American who knows football rules, knows you can’t be switching the ball from arm to arm, with space between your arm and the ball and consider it a catch at that point. Everyone knows it.

    We could give examples for days of Goodell caught changing rules DURING the game to help NE’s opponent. Again, we have numerous examples of this and Blandino himself caught on nfl.com changing the wording of the rule to match their cheating outcome of the game to help the Jets in 2013. Remember that one?

    What other NFL team experiences this annually? None.

    I mean, the cheating is so rampant by Goodell, it’s not that hard to see where he does it.

    It’s also how I’ve predicted every single off field incident correctly since Ray Rice. All summer long in 2014 I kept asking NFL fans whether at work or customers, etc, what their take was on it and I kept saying “why isn’t he suspended even for like 1 game already”?

    Goodell was NEVER going to suspend Ray Rice. Bisciotti golfs with Goodell down at Augusta. And that 8.5 mil cap hit for Ray Rice on the heels of the horrible Flacco deal, was too much for Baltimore to take on. Bisciotti and Harbaugh knew it, and Goodell knew it, that’s why he didn’t ask to see a tape on Rich inside the elevator. He could have, but he lied about why he couldn’t. It’s an old lawyer trick to feign ignorance, or really, LIE outright. So, someone else got that tape and forced his hand. HE only felt incredible pressure to do so because all the other owners saw how bad it was looking, so Goodell told Bisciotti to cut him after 6 months of us knowing what happened.

    Goodell’s cheating has been going on for 15 years since he took over.

  23. voidwalker says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:14 pm
    No one in Florida is staying home.

    People are out and about all day every day.

    Just so you know.

    You can stop acting like a person should be shamed or arrested for going outside.

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    Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why Trump got elected and ignore his CDC funds slashing or the gov’t shut down last year which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He’s literally destroying the country. Wake up.

  24. “the Buccaneers are playing fast and loose with the rules”

    Probably.

    But if you believe there is a single team that is not, to some degree or another, at some time or another, playing “fast and loose with the rules,” well… bless your heart.

  25. Brady is the goose that laid the golden egg, Roger will not jeopardize that. Deflategate suspension was more to punish the Patriots than Brady and it backfired spectacularly.

  26. I just watched a replay of SB31. The whole 4th quarter Madden and Summerall talked about being sure Parcells would not return to the Patriots next season. They even openly suggested he would coach the Jets. Then, with the game no longer in doubt, Madden said that Parcells wasn’t even flying back with the team. None of that kept Madden from calling Parcells a great guy.

    There was a huge difference in how Parcells left the Pats and Belichick left the Jets. Parcells mentally quit on a team with a super bowl to play. Belichick outmaneuvered Parcels and the Jets trying to force him to stay with the Jets by having a contractual clause kick in by Parcels retiring after Belichick already made up his mind to leave.

  27. radar8 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    Wow. Goodell.

    If Brady did this a Pats uni, there is no question NE would be docked a draft pick.

    Amazing to watch Goodell cheat like this.
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    Too funny. When Brady was on the Pats, you defended the Pats and Brady regardless of what he did or the Pats did. Now that he’s with Tampa, it’s magically cheating?

    Too funny. Talk about being a Homer.

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    What on earth are you talking about? We have proof Brady was framed just like we have proof BB was framed. What was said by Goodell is factually wrong. That’s what they have in common, just like here.

    Everyone knows players can’t gather right now.

    Here, the rule is very clear and Brady broke it. If Brady was on the Pats right now, there’d be a ridiculously Draconian punishment and the league’s; statement would be the opposite.

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

    Like I said above, Goodell will entertain an argument to frame NE to punish them severely for something that either didn’t happen (Framegate II) or something that happened (Framegate I), but wasn’t egregious in nature, casting incredible suspicion on what it was REALLY about (Woody Johnson and the Jets trying to cheat to catch up to BB and Brady in NE), and why the punishment was so severe, without ever really getting a real answer, because there isn’t one!

    Don’t make me post the Cowher interview here again to embarrass people like you.

    I don’t think a commissioner trying to maximize ROI in a sports league, while being corrupt, is all that funny.

    This isn’t the WWE where people know it’s fake. It’s supposed to be fair and honest sport.

    Goodell is the cheater because he knows BB with a boatload if picks is a better GM and Coach than everyone else, and it ain’t close. Ain’t close. So, he makes things up to steal picks when it appears they’re going to be a wagon and run amuck all over the league, spitting int he face of parity and what the Cap is intended to do. That’s how great BB is as a GM and Coach. It’s the GM work and the economics of it all that makes him so brilliant and the owners and Goodell know it.

    Watch what BB does here in the next few years. He’ll be making runs with Stidham instead of Brady.

  28. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am

    I am a diehard Pats fan, but this is a clear cut violation at this particular time based on NFL’s current policy.

    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady…
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    You’re not a Pats fan and Brady did nothing wrong. There is no evidence Leftwich and Brady interacted in person and without any precautions.

    Also Brady is obviously one of the best leaders in NFL history, you have again provided zero evidence to the contrary. Wrong, again.

  29. tylawspick6 says:

    Watch what BB does here in the next few years. He’ll be making runs with Stidham instead of Brady.

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    If Stidham ends the season as starter, I’d be surprised. He’s got some phyiscal ability, but he’s a long way from being mentally ready.

    And with Stidham is missing OTAs , you must be beside yourself as you destroyed Brady for that.

  30. Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady and the NFL to enable stupid people to pretend social distancing should not be taken very seriously. What on earth happened to these people’s college degrees? Seriously.

    Why do people reject fact and science? It’s bad enough our president does it.
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    Do you actually have a college degree? Some of the things you post are grade school level. For you to ask why people reject fact is pretty damn funny. You do it everyday with your posts. You just lack that IQ of 100 you are always talking about to understand your talking about yourself when trying to slam others. It’s very telling.

  31. dannywhite11 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:38 pm
    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady and the NFL to enable stupid people to pretend social distancing should not be taken very seriously. What on earth happened to these people’s college degrees? Seriously.

    Why do people reject fact and science? It’s bad enough our president does it.
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    Do you actually have a college degree? Some of the things you post are grade school level. For you to ask why people reject fact is pretty damn funny. You do it everyday with your posts. You just lack that IQ of 100 you are always talking about to understand your talking about yourself when trying to slam others. It’s very telling.

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    Yep. And I also help run a small business that does pretty well. Meanwhile, you haven’t left your basement.

    Absolutely it’s telling. Your insecurity and following me around is proof of it.

  32. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:00 pm
    arealisticpackerfan says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am
    The duffel bag was probably full of footballs and he was giving Leftwich a tutorial on how to properly deflate them so the equipment guys can get trained properly before the season.

    7 13 Rate This

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    Right, and the tooth fairy left you $5 under your pillow last night for a Hungry Man dinner for your mom to microwave tonight in that basement of yours.

    Please do not use a computer if your IQ is below 100.
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    You should take your own advice.

  33. Chill_Mickelson says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:37 pm
    tylawspick6 says:

    Watch what BB does here in the next few years. He’ll be making runs with Stidham instead of Brady.

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    If Stidham ends the season as starter, I’d be surprised. He’s got some phyiscal ability, but he’s a long way from being mentally ready.

    And with Stidham is missing OTAs , you must be beside yourself as you destroyed Brady for that.

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    I don’t think Stidham will pout, isolate teammates and not go through his progressions. I think he won’t pout, be a good leader and teammate and go through his progressions like I saw him do very well last preseason shattering Brady and JimmyGs postseasons as rookies. That’s what I think. BB also thinks that since he lowballed Brady last August after seeing his work with Stidham pay off.

    That is a good bet right there.

    Did Brady finish the season in 2001? Cassel in 2008?

    And if BB had dealt Brady in 2017 out from under Brady, Gronk, Butler and Amendola’s passive aggressive antics then, JimmyG would have finished that season, too.

    I could become a millionaire overnight winning bets with people like you. Absolutely clueless.

    BY your logic, Burrow won’t finish his season this year in Cincy because there won’t be camps for these guys to practice. Stidham was ranked behind Burrow in this year’s draft, yet has a full year being trained by BB everyday. Not to mention, taking 1st team reps last December, which I am sure Brady didn’t like either.

    I kinda really like the results when BB works with a QB daily. Brady, Cassell, JimmyG and now Stidham. The only 4 QBs in 20 years to get the daily coaching from BB.

    Do the math.

    The no OTAs and camps will hurt all 32 teams, but based on how organized and streamlined NE is, it’s probably an advantage.

    PS Stidham won’t be leveraging his contract status over the entire team’s head like Brady did last year.

    LOL

  34. THIS IS NONSENSE.

    Brady has been an NFL quarterback for 20 years. What exactly do you think Leftwich can teach Brady at this point??? Seriously.

  35. I agree with you tylaw, but I think the bigger Miami cheat wasn’t so much improperly getting hold of a recording of Brady’s calls (clearly wrong but poss not explicit illegal in 2006??) but that they also rehearsed and mimicked the calls in-game to cause false starts and disrupt Pats, which was clearly illegal. Phin players admitted it a few years later and Fraudger did nothing.

  36. As soon as this story was reported, everybody jumped to the conclusion that Brady was there to meet with and work out with Leftwich. It seemed odd to me that the owner said Brady just walked in and down the hall, dropping two duffel bags. I don’t know anybody who just walks into somebody’s house without knocking or ringing the doorbell, even if the resident is expecting them. BUT here’s the one circumstance when I would walk into someone’s house unannounced (and I’ve done this). That’s when the resident isn’t going to be there, but we have made arrangements for me to pick something up, drop something off, or do some task for them.

    I think what happened here is that Brady and Leftwich made arrangements for Brady to pick up the playbook or whatever documents they might have been, and drop off two duffel bags of signed footballs and jerseys for Leftwich to give to the Bucs for their own promotional purposes. They didn’t plan to see each other in person.

    And that’s why the NFL let this go. As for whether it violates local ordinances, do you really want to have the NFL getting into that, especially if it’s not egregious?

  37. hailtothe says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:33 pm
    I think we’re all glad we aren’t neighbors with Mike Florio. We’d get turned into local authorities for venturing outside our property.

    Funny and True

  38. This Eagles fan doesn’t care one bit about this. The rules on meetings and such are ridiculous anyway.

  39. tylawspick6 says:

    Right, and the tooth fairy left you $5 under your pillow last night for a Hungry Man dinner for your mom to microwave tonight in that basement of yours.

    Please do not use a computer if your IQ is below 100.

    Anyone else find it hilarious that perhaps the most opinionated, biggest homer and troll on this site dishes it out but can’t take it and endlessly whines the second the dynasty collapses?

  40. Yep. And I also help run a small business that does pretty well. Meanwhile, you haven’t left your basement.

    Absolutely it’s telling. Your insecurity and following me around is proof of it.
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    So anyone who calls you out does not leave their basement, has an IQ under 100 and has reading compression issues. I got ya.

    I find it funny you think I follow you around. I call you out with your made up facts and fill in the lies with truth. I have posted on here for years and I am a Pats fan. You try to take over every single article with you 500 word posts saying the same thing over and over again. You get called out time and time again then you go to those top comebacks I mentioned before to try to put others down. You are a fraud and it has been proven over and over. You are the only one who thinks he has some upper hand. You and Trump have a lot in common – huge egos who are never wrong and very disliked.

  41. Goodell (via conference call): “For this infraction, I’m ordering the New England Patriots to forfeit a 7th round pick in the 2021 draft.”

    Inaudible voices, off-line discusssion.

    Goodell: “Correction: For this infraction, I’m ordering the New England Patriots for forfeit a 6th round pick in the 2021 draft.”

  42. if you are just popping in to pick up a playbook why would you drag two duffel bags in from your car?? yeah that makes a lot of sense.

  43. Chill_Mickelson says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:34 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:47 am

    I am a diehard Pats fan, but this is a clear cut violation at this particular time based on NFL’s current policy.

    Also, it completely shows bad leadership by Brady…
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    You’re not a Pats fan and Brady did nothing wrong. There is no evidence Leftwich and Brady interacted in person and without any precautions.

    Also Brady is obviously one of the best leaders in NFL history, you have again provided zero evidence to the contrary. Wrong, again.

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    Umm, I am not a Pats fan, huh? Wow.

    Sounds good, little guy!

    Brady initiated contact with Leftwich inside his home. This is a fact. Leftwich doesn;’t leave his house unlocked in his neighborhood. Who would do that in a subdivision in this crazy world of ours?

    I just had a guy from the bank come to our house yesterday to refinance, and he and us made sure he had a mask on, and we actually left the house as a precaution, as he took photos as part of the process. We then washed our hands, after he left. Why? Because I am not an idiot, understand the world we live in and understand basic science, unlike the moron president, the GA and FL governors, etc. Oh, and yeah, the moonlanding wasn’t faked either.

    If you’re not doing these kinds of precautions after 6 weeks of us knowing how serious this is, you’re a mouthbreathing moron.

    Brady broke a clear rule here, and no, it’s not a huge deal at all in the grand scheme of NFL competition, maybe a small fine, but if he did this as a Patriot right now? There’d be draft picks taken, absolutely. No question about it.

    Brady lives in a little delusional world and bubble with avacado ice creams and personnel massage men that he somehow thinks magically helps his QB skills. It doesn’t. He was terrible last year and he’s gone off the deep end with this TB12 garbage.

    Have a nice day.

  44. Honestly, all of New England has surpassed New York, California and Washington for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and the rest of the USA and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why O’bummer got elected and ignored his pandemic plan abolishment or the gov’t shut down in 2013 and ’15 which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He literally did his best to destroy the country. Wake up.

    ###############################################################

    Hey there @tylawspick6. I fixed it for ya

  45. Right, and how about that duffle bag? He was going to work out. I personally think that is his business, but then everyone else should get the same treatment.

  46. “Everybody has violated the state at home order. It’s unrealistic.”

    I haven’t and its not. Only if you are childishly unable to control yourself is it “unrealistic”.

    I have friends in Germany where the whole country was just locked down for over 60 days and no one violated it. Now the country is reopening.

    Here what will happen in childish people who thing their right to infect someone else with a potentially deadly disease is more important than that person’s right not to have you make the sick. Its about the most twisted way you can look at this.

    And the result is going to be a huge 2nd wave of infections that forces further lockdowns.

  47. Chill_Mickelson says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:37 pm

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    If Stidham ends the season as starter, I’d be surprised. He’s got some phyiscal ability, but he’s a long way from being mentally ready.
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    LOL. It is more than likely that no one knows for sure if Stidham is mentally ready to be a first rate NFL QB, including Stidham, BB and McDaniels. If any of us knew, we would not be posting here, we would be in our vacation homes on Martha’s Vineyard or Nantucket doing Zoom walk throughs with the team.

  48. Hey there @tylawspick6. I fixed it for ya
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    Please do not lump us in with this martian. He posts so much gibberish I think half the time he is trying to summon Candyman.

  49. Roger Goodell defamed Brady in Deflategate, just so he could assert his authority over player discipline and demonstrate to the other owners that he wasn’t soft on the Patriots. He’s well aware that his case has not held up at all well. I doubt he’s eager to jump all over Brady again in another case with no evidence.

  50. The people that cry cheating are getting cheated now. OC meeting… nothing. Caught in the park…nothing. Spygate 2… Nothing. When’s the next conspiracy meeting?

  51. My wife and I have been true to the stay at home for 7 weeks now. I do think, with all the hospitals -except NYC which is managed poorly, they should allow doctors and nurses go back to work. OUr hospitals are empty and our clinics need to start treating other patients in need, like cancer, heart, ex.

  52. Ya know what I find hilarious, “realisticpackerfan”? That any fan of an overrated, prima donna qb who publicly has stated that he prefers the footballs to be inflated OVER the legal limit would make a snarky remark about a frame job that resulted from 345 Park Avenue abusing and/or ignoring the laws of physics.

  53. streetyson says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:58 pm
    I agree with you tylaw, but I think the bigger Miami cheat wasn’t so much improperly getting hold of a recording of Brady’s calls (clearly wrong but poss not explicit illegal in 2006??) but that they also rehearsed and mimicked the calls in-game to cause false starts and disrupt Pats, which was clearly illegal. Phin players admitted it a few years later and Fraudger did nothing
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    Pot meet kettle. So Saban was cheating to even out the game from Belichick cheating? That sounds more fair than the patriots cheating and other teams playing by the rules. From the result of that game, sounds like Belichick couldn’t handle an even playing field. And you add they didn’t for a game while the patriots dynasty is based all on cheating.

  54. So in person visits, if brief & to pick up playbooks, are okay? Tomorrow he stops by for revisions, the next day for practice formatting…….

    In other words: don’t get caught dropping over by going into the wrong house. Maybe you should consider the practice of “knocking” on the door & letting the owner answer.

  55. >> Goodell has been the facilitator of trying to weaken NE for 15 years. It’s why he was hired.

    Goodell was hired to weaken NE? He was hired to make them a lot of money, and he has. Now weakening the pats may help with that, or ingratiate him to majority ownership, but that is different from being hired to specifically take action against the Patriots.

    >>BB and NE’s dynastic runs have actually slowed the growth of the league, so teams knew if they used the media to plant a story, Goodell might run with it if he could sell it to the jealous, pitchfork public who are too dumb or don’t care.

    And your evidence that he slowed the growth of the league is? Seems like an astounding amount of growth to me.

    >> Framegate I and II are the exact same story. They’re lies to be able to steal picks. It’s old news now, but if Brady was still on the Pats, there’s no question, he would be stealing a pick and making an example. 100% no question about it.

    Spygate was a very real violation of the rules designed to gain an advantage. Deflategate was garbage pursued by people with an ax to grind. Two very different scenarios.

    >> This is not an opinion, but a fact. We have proof he applies the rules differently to different teams and this is another clear cut example.

    I see these things as Apples and Oranges. While not always fair, I don’t consider them clear cut examples of a vendetta against one team. My advice – enjoy and revel in a ridiculous amount of success and fun that the Pats have generated for their fan base. Try not to be a person who wins the lottery and becomes bitter that you have to pay taxes!

    That and Go Pats! Go TB! I think I will root for both this year.

  56. Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why Trump got elected and ignore his CDC funds slashing or the gov’t shut down last year which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He’s literally destroying the country. Wake up.
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    Tylawspick6……….nobody, but nobody is as dumb as you, not even close.

  57. It’s funny reading how all these Pats fans are upset that Goodell didn’t punish the Bucs as he would’ve done if it was the Pats. Yeah, tell me again how McDaniels was fined for recording another team while he was the HC of the Broncos. I wonder where he learned that from. What about Robert Kraft and the massage shop? You reap what you sew! By the way, I find slightly under inflated footballs easier to grip. I’ve also never heard of someone who has lost a lot of weight being called the deflator. Additionally, I wouldn’t smash my phone if I was under investigation and willing to do anything to prove my innocence. Enjoy your season!

  58. As a life long Dallas Cowboys fan I feel it’s better to never win another Super Bowl than it would have been to win with Brady

  59. Let me be clear 1st on this, yes it is petty..BUT it is still against the rules!! But Brady has always been one to flirt on the line of the rules so this does not mean the NFL will do anything about it
    Once a cheater, always a cheater
    Tampa will have their dreams crushed when they see 1st hand that he has lost more than one step.

  60. And you add they didn’t for a game while the patriots dynasty is based all on cheating.
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    How did the Pats cheat to those first three titles? Keep in mind, the Goodell memo about filming location was not in effect until the 2007 season. Also, defensive and offensive signals can be videotaped from certain locations and is not against the rules.

  61. I just don’t know how certain people in New England are going to sleep at night now that Tom isn’t going to be wearing that Patriots Uni. Therapist must be working over time. And then all those Jerseys in the closets with that number… that #!2.

  62. dannywhite11 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 2:34 pm
    Yep. And I also help run a small business that does pretty well. Meanwhile, you haven’t left your basement.

    Absolutely it’s telling. Your insecurity and following me around is proof of it.
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    So anyone who calls you out does not leave their basement, has an IQ under 100 and has reading compression issues. I got ya.

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    no, you are a shut-in and if you are a pats fan, a bandwagoner pink hat Brady fan only, hence why you can’t the facts with his recent selfish antics and poor play

    Thanks for clarifying!

  63. Brady lives in a little delusional world and bubble with avacado ice creams and personnel massage men that he somehow thinks magically helps his QB skills. It doesn’t. He was terrible last year and he’s gone off the deep end with this TB12 garbage.

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    Tampa Bay Tommy really should cool it with this “Tompa” stuff. I’d say it’s an embarrassment but he doesn’t play for my team anymore so whatever.

  64. dannywhite11 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:45 pm
    And you add they didn’t for a game while the patriots dynasty is based all on cheating.
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    How did the Pats cheat to those first three titles? Keep in mind, the Goodell memo about filming location was not in effect until the 2007 season. Also, defensive and offensive signals can be videotaped from certain locations and is not against the rules.

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    No, no, no, Danny Boy. See, this is the part when I come in with facts and school you like I did when Edelman broke a 75 year longstanding NFL record in 2013 and you said he didn’t, lying everywhere on here. He did and it’s well documented.

    The wording of the rule was changed on 9.6.06 to include from the sidelines, because it’s quite possible BB was the only coach in the league who traveled with his video coordinator. That’s why a memo was sent out TO ALL TEAMS, by that stooge, Ray Anderson, and not Goodell. He tries to remove himself from the cheating and constant changing of rules, so it doesn’t look like he is targeting one team, even though he is. This his directive. He told us when he was caught cheating with Framegate II. He said Article 46 allows him to do whatever he wants, including cheating. This is what his attorneys testified to I Said it at the time when that was rumored to be their ace in the hole, that it was very risky and it would explain why he thinks he can lie and cheat and get away with it; and it’s because his lawyers bastardized what it REALLY means.

    This is why when Bill Cowher backs BB and tells the truth, Cowher had retired AFTER the 2005 season. Look at the chronology. Why would Bill Cowher lie? He wouldn’t. Everyone in the NFL does what NE does. Period. If everyone does it, there is no cheating by just one team. Woody Johnson just wanted Goodell to harrass BB for BB always dotting Is and crossing Ts. The rule was changed literally and officially on the very same day Goodell became commissioner (9.6.06), which is beyond strange that something like that, which was a longstanding rule on the Constitution and Bylaws would be altered in such passive-aggressive, shotgun management fashion, but BB knew what it was about. He knew Woody Johnson talked to buddy Goodell, the same guy he volunteered to hire, and wanted it done.

    That’s why nothing happened in 2006. If BB was actually cheating this whole Framegate I business would have occurred, somewhere on the road in 2006. Even in GB in 2006 there was some kind of a story of Estrella being “removed”, but the fact is, the home team HAS to give the visiting team’s filming people a specified location. That’s in the rule book. There’s nothing sinister about this. It’s a 3 hour game and the person is standing right there. The truth is, the future scouting is fine, but in-game use is the fear like Astros using sign stealing and then using the banging on the chairs, etc, to cheat. That’s the cheating. Using in that game and then applying in that game.

    What started to happen is teams would probably end up not caring or bothering to give the road team the spot needed, so then it became a rule to have the spot and uphold it, which is why the rule specifies sidelines, coach’s booth, etc, so it wouldn’t be used DURING that game that day. Fair enough. With technology changing so fast, it makes sense. But, there is no evidence this in game stuff ever happened whatsoever. It’s a complete lie.

    BB was thumbing his nose at the Jets and Woody Johnson, had Estrella way out in front of the sideline a bright vest in broad daylight in 2007. Again, this was in retaliation by the Jets in Foxborough in January, earlier that year in the postseason game where the Jets were filming from an unspecified spot and NFL officials saw it and shut them down. This part gets conveniently left out by the media. Convenient. So, morons and trolls don’t even know the story, they just believe in the Easter Bunny and ESPN instead because Goodell knew he’d have backing across the league to get away with due to everyone being so jealous NE formed a dynasty, is in the AFC title game almost every year, stole that game out in SD in the divisional rd because Marlon McCree is a dope and fumbled, and BB traded for Moss and Welker in the spring of 2007, for a 2nd, 4th and 7th. It’s called JEALOUSY. People cannot stand how great BB is. That’s what it’s all about. And, keep in mind, these are adults here. Little, whiny silver spooned and entitled adults who own football teams.

    But, you got your info wrong YET AGAIN. Some Pats fan you are, Danny.

    Like I said, Mr. Jealous I know more than you and you’re insecure and jealous about it.

  65. no, you are a shut-in and if you are a pats fan, a bandwagoner pink hat Brady fan only, hence why you can’t the facts with his recent selfish antics and poor play

    Thanks for clarifying!
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    Bandwagon fan since the Grogan days. I grew up in NE so yes I am a Pats fan. I am a Brady fan and definitely will be following his exploits down in FL. I am actually embarrassed to be a Pats fan sometimes because of you. I am sure most NFL teams would want Brady’s recent selfish antics and poor play to win a SB like he did two season ago.

    Just the past 2-3 weeks you went on fictitious rants like these –

    Brady had a 33% passer rating in the red zone the past two seasons which I provided stats for you he was in the 55% area then you change the narrative it was in December. Then I provided more stats to show he was way above that 33% in December.

    Your infamous Edelman being the all time punt return leader with 13 yards per return. Provided stats to prove you wrong then you cherry pick only 4 years of Edelman’s return average to fit your 13 yards per return. This can also go hand in hand with BB and his record without Brady under center. You claim BB is 10-5 but you do not could the Pats going 5-13 with Bledsoe. Two perfectly cherry picked stats from you.

    How about you claiming Butler’s on field play time was diminishing because he mentally checked out. He only played every defensive snap the last 4 regular season games and the 2 playoff games leading to his SB benching.

    This is just the past 2-3 weeks. If I fact checked you on every post I would spend my life on here like you do. Poor Ty. At least you refrained calling me a millennial this time. You are a fraud. Get it?!

  66. billswillnevermove says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:30 pm
    Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why Trump got elected and ignore his CDC funds slashing or the gov’t shut down last year which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He’s literally destroying the country. Wake up.
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    Tylawspick6……….nobody, but nobody is as dumb as you, not even close.

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    lmao

    says a guy who is a fan of a team with a 50 year old stadium, a cheap local owner who is a dummy, and could easily sell the team without funding for a new stadium, AND you board names is “BillWillNeverMove”

    Can’t be made up. Just can’t.

    How is the hiring of Whaley and Rex Ryan doing? Still enjoying that are we? Why didn’t you resign Shaq Lawson?

    Shall I keep going?

  67. But, you got your info wrong YET AGAIN. Some Pats fan you are, Danny.

    Like I said, Mr. Jealous I know more than you and you’re insecure and jealous about it.
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    You got me. You have been waiting for a few weeks now for me to screw up a date. Congratulations! Why is it the people who always think they know more than others are the ones who have to keep telling the public about it? You say I am insecure? You are textbook.

  68. KP says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:23 pm
    >> Goodell has been the facilitator of trying to weaken NE for 15 years. It’s why he was hired.

    Goodell was hired to weaken NE? He was hired to make them a lot of money, and he has. Now weakening the pats may help with that, or ingratiate him to majority ownership, but that is different from being hired to specifically take action against the Patriots.

    >>BB and NE’s dynastic runs have actually slowed the growth of the league, so teams knew if they used the media to plant a story, Goodell might run with it if he could sell it to the jealous, pitchfork public who are too dumb or don’t care.

    And your evidence that he slowed the growth of the league is? Seems like an astounding amount of growth to me.

    >> Framegate I and II are the exact same story. They’re lies to be able to steal picks. It’s old news now, but if Brady was still on the Pats, there’s no question, he would be stealing a pick and making an example. 100% no question about it.

    Spygate was a very real violation of the rules designed to gain an advantage. Deflategate was garbage pursued by people with an ax to grind. Two very different scenarios.

    >> This is not an opinion, but a fact. We have proof he applies the rules differently to different teams and this is another clear cut example.

    I see these things as Apples and Oranges. While not always fair, I don’t consider them clear cut examples of a vendetta against one team. My advice – enjoy and revel in a ridiculous amount of success and fun that the Pats have generated for their fan base. Try not to be a person who wins the lottery and becomes bitter that you have to pay taxes!

    That and Go Pats! Go TB! I think I will root for both this year.

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    Why did the league back the Jets to sneak around behind NE’s back to try to steal Parcelss during SB 31, if they wanted the NE market to be successful?

    You people are so dumb. The money comes out of NY in all sports. That’s where all the money really is, especially in baseball and football.

    The Jets wanted a big time coach, were jealous of the Giants/Parcells and cheated the Pats out of having a focused coach during the SB week vs the Packers. Again, this is well documented. Just because you lack some IQ and don’t know about it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    The league encouraged it. Why? More money flows when both NY teams are doing well and in the playoffs. That’s why. GREED. So, this whole thing goes back to January of 1997, even before slimeball Goodell came into the league. Got it?

    Show me another sports league that tries to back one team and then sabotages another:

    Doesn’t exist. Only in the NFL.

    And, by the way, this goes back to the NY stealing half the Red Sox lineup in 1920, also likely encouraged by MLB at the time since the world bank was moving from London to NY after World War I.

    Next, why would Tagliabue get squeezed out for a new guy willing to do dirty cheating work, when Tagliabue really wasn’t into it? The league was doing well in 2005.

    Hmmm. He was squeezed out probably because he was unwilling to do what Goodell is doing now.

    It’s because cheating owners wanted a commissioner to use as their disposal when they wanted something. This is why you see numerous teams gang up on just one other team. If it benefits that group, Goodell does what that group wants.

    Get it?

    Childish and beyond political, but that’s what these selfish Boomer losers who are 2nd or 3rd generation owners do. They use Goodell to cheat.

    Heck, even Sal Palantonio confirmed owners constantly call Goodell to just make anything up because people are “convinced” NE is magically cheating, just somehow some way. lmao

    Spygate and Deflategate are the exact same thing, other than one being an incident that had nothing to do with what Goodell said as real, being used as real when it;s a lie, while the other was completely fabricated (no one deflated any balls) as proven in a federal court.

    Get your facts before running your mouth.

  69. patriotmaleorgy says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:15 pm
    streetyson says:
    April 28, 2020 at 1:58 pm
    I agree with you tylaw, but I think the bigger Miami cheat wasn’t so much improperly getting hold of a recording of Brady’s calls (clearly wrong but poss not explicit illegal in 2006??) but that they also rehearsed and mimicked the calls in-game to cause false starts and disrupt Pats, which was clearly illegal. Phin players admitted it a few years later and Fraudger did nothing
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    Pot meet kettle. So Saban was cheating to even out the game from Belichick cheating? That sounds more fair than the patriots cheating and other teams playing by the rules. From the result of that game, sounds like Belichick couldn’t handle an even playing field. And you add they didn’t for a game while the patriots dynasty is based all on cheating.

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    Exposed again:

    2010:

    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  70. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    lesepi says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:48 am
    You know that this means nothing. The NFL doesn’t even play fair with its rules for anything. Repeat drug or domestic abusers are routinely slapped on the wrist. The Green Bay Packers cheat to gain yards they cannot do without using the defensive pre-snap penalty loophole. There is nothing here. Rules? Don’t matter jack.

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    It’s why he looked the other way with Ray Rice on Baltimore or Suggs, or Hunt or Hill on KC.

    They’re AFC teams. Look at the teams he protects. It’s easy to see what he’s doing after being caught so many times. As if they or KC couldn’t have called the hotel to see Hunt on security footage we know exists?

    If Hunt was on the Pats, he’d be forced to be cut, not that Kraft wouldn’t do it on his own anyway. NE does not back violent offenders like other teams do. It’s a fact. They had had Hernandez cut before he was even arrested. That’s a fact.

    That’s the pattern. He helps AFC teams and goes after NE when he can, to try to level out the playing field. Been going on for 15 years with rule changes targeting NE, you name it.

    It’s also why Goodell forced Kraft to cut Antonio Brown last year. I knew it would happen.

    Why? Because I know Goodell cheats. If Brown wasn’t cut, NE probably goes back to the SB.

    His cheating is more like a hidden thing for some people who can’t see it. How many more examples do we need?

    If Brady did this right now as the NE QB, NE gets docked a pick. It’s not a debate, it’s the reality of Cheater Goodell’s NFL.

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    They drafted Hernandez. Every team new about his past. So if you tell me every other team knew but BB didn’t, then he’s not the genius you claim him to be.

  71. I can’t stand the pats. But this Danny White guy, almost makes it worthwhile to become a fan. Awesome.

  72. tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 5:50 pm
    billswillnevermove says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:30 pm
    Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why Trump got elected and ignore his CDC funds slashing or the gov’t shut down last year which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He’s literally destroying the country. Wake up.
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    Tylawspick6……….nobody, but nobody is as dumb as you, not even close.

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    lmao

    says a guy who is a fan of a team with a 50 year old stadium, a cheap local owner who is a dummy, and could easily sell the team without funding for a new stadium, AND you board names is “BillWillNeverMove”

    Can’t be made up. Just can’t.

    How is the hiring of Whaley and Rex Ryan doing? Still enjoying that are we? Why didn’t you resign Shaq Lawson?

    Shall I keep going?

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    Just because a person cheers for another team, doesn’t mean they’re untillegent. I’m sure there are a lot of Doctors, lawyers, engineers with phds that cheer for other teams that would embarrass you in an iq test.

  73. 12Packabs says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:55 am
    What would we do without you policing the football world for every tickytak violation of constitutionally sketchy stay at home orders? Thank you for your service!
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    You have a bright future in constitutional law… Amazing how may people are not only football experts but infectious disease and constitution experts. All from their parent’s basement!

  74. billswillnevermove says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:30 pm
    Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.
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    Educated does not mean “Smart”. There are plenty of “educated” people out there that could screw up boiling water. Just look around you, you will see ALL the people with IQs under 100. You will be among them

  75. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 6:17 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    lesepi says:
    April 28, 2020 at 11:48 am
    You know that this means nothing. The NFL doesn’t even play fair with its rules for anything. Repeat drug or domestic abusers are routinely slapped on the wrist. The Green Bay Packers cheat to gain yards they cannot do without using the defensive pre-snap penalty loophole. There is nothing here. Rules? Don’t matter jack.

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    It’s why he looked the other way with Ray Rice on Baltimore or Suggs, or Hunt or Hill on KC.

    They’re AFC teams. Look at the teams he protects. It’s easy to see what he’s doing after being caught so many times. As if they or KC couldn’t have called the hotel to see Hunt on security footage we know exists?

    If Hunt was on the Pats, he’d be forced to be cut, not that Kraft wouldn’t do it on his own anyway. NE does not back violent offenders like other teams do. It’s a fact. They had had Hernandez cut before he was even arrested. That’s a fact.

    That’s the pattern. He helps AFC teams and goes after NE when he can, to try to level out the playing field. Been going on for 15 years with rule changes targeting NE, you name it.

    It’s also why Goodell forced Kraft to cut Antonio Brown last year. I knew it would happen.

    Why? Because I know Goodell cheats. If Brown wasn’t cut, NE probably goes back to the SB.

    His cheating is more like a hidden thing for some people who can’t see it. How many more examples do we need?

    If Brady did this right now as the NE QB, NE gets docked a pick. It’s not a debate, it’s the reality of Cheater Goodell’s NFL.

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    They drafted Hernandez. Every team new about his past. So if you tell me every other team knew but BB didn’t, then he’s not the genius you claim him to be.

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    And the Chief drafted Javon Belcher. He seeemed unstable to me, don’t ya think? How come no one ever talks about that? How come KC drafted him? Hmm?

    What about Tyreek HIll, Kareem Hunt? They look pretty unstable to me as well.

    The COlts drafted Marvin Harrison. The guy tried to murder a kid in the street, and then hide his cop killing Belgian pistol in a bucket at his car wash. Yep. That happened.

    Baltimore drafted Ray Lewis and then put a statue up after he burned his white suit to cover up 2 murders.

    The Packers drafted the I-5 serial killer in 1974. What is your point here?

    Half the league comes from questionable backgrounds.

    Some team would have drafted Hernandez, if it wasn’t NE, Mr. Arrogant. Oh yes, they would have. For you claim BB needs a crystal ball while your GM doesn’t, is pretty arrogant.

  76. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 6:22 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 5:50 pm
    billswillnevermove says:
    April 28, 2020 at 4:30 pm
    Honestly, Florida has surpassed Alabama, Mississippi and W. Virginia for dumbest people in the country.

    Seriously. Dumb. That dumb.

    Please just put up a barrier between you and Georgia and just start your own country. I want all people with IQ’s under 100 in one place.

    I don’t trust uneducated people who reject learning, fact and science.

    You people are why Trump got elected and ignore his CDC funds slashing or the gov’t shut down last year which forced some businesses to go belly up.

    He’s literally destroying the country. Wake up.
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    Tylawspick6……….nobody, but nobody is as dumb as you, not even close.

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    lmao

    says a guy who is a fan of a team with a 50 year old stadium, a cheap local owner who is a dummy, and could easily sell the team without funding for a new stadium, AND you board names is “BillWillNeverMove”

    Can’t be made up. Just can’t.

    How is the hiring of Whaley and Rex Ryan doing? Still enjoying that are we? Why didn’t you resign Shaq Lawson?

    Shall I keep going?

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    Just because a person cheers for another team, doesn’t mean they’re untillegent. I’m sure there are a lot of Doctors, lawyers, engineers with phds that cheer for other teams that would embarrass you in an iq test.

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    I am sure they would, but I also wouldn’t lecture them on topics they know a lot more about than myself.

    Some people that post here don’t do homework, and then when shown why they’re wrong, get all defensive and then scramble to change the narrative or put words in people’s mouths.

    I just thin it’s funny the Pats and BB are mocked, Goodell cheats and has been caught lying and cheating incessantly, and then people act like somehow NE should just check out as an NFL franchise.

    Some of you need clinical help over the fact BB formed 2 different dynasties in the Cap Era in a 20 year span.

  77. Some people that post here don’t do homework, and then when shown why they’re wrong, get all defensive and then scramble to change the narrative or put words in people’s mouths.
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    You would know because you are one of them. Just because you have a “Private Property of BB” tattoo does not make you an expert on anything.

  78. dannywhite11 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 6:54 pm
    Ty Fraud Fever on full display. It’s like watching a car wreck in slow motion.

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    I am pretty sure a guy who claims to be a Pats fan with the board name of “DannyWHite” is as fraudulent as it gets.

    You’re not even a Pats fan. You’re some Cowboys fan who has gushed over Brady for 20 years The real Pats fans are hoping Brady Pink Hats like you LEAVE our fanbase once and for all so we can stop seeing these little embarrassing adult fanboys on these boards, because people like you are incredibly annoying, mainly because you lack reading comprehension and then try to put words in people’s mouths on the other side.

    You didn’t even know how bad Brady was in 2018 and that Edelman broke like a 60+ year old NFL record either.

    Talk about a fraud.

  79. dannywhite11 says:
    April 28, 2020 at 6:58 pm
    Some people that post here don’t do homework, and then when shown why they’re wrong, get all defensive and then scramble to change the narrative or put words in people’s mouths.
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    You would know because you are one of them. Just because you have a “Private Property of BB” tattoo does not make you an expert on anything.

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    Just because you don’t know of something or don’t have an understanding of something, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. A tree can fall, and just because YOU didn’t hear it, doesn’t it mean it didn’t fall. That’s what narcissists do like Trumpy.

    I didn’t know, so it must not have happened! bawahah

    Why do you think this country elected the guy we just did? That very problem! Read a book! Do something to sharpen your mind. My goodness, Danny Boy.

    Tom Brady SUCKED in the 2018 and 2019 regular seasons.

    Even Ryan Tannehill outperformed him last year. Numerous middling QBs did. Numerous! Cousins, etc.

    Mortifying. Absolutely mortifying to think Brady was good last year or the year before (regular season).

    Just because you don’t know this and are so googly eyed over Tom Brady’s career, doesn’t mean it’s not true. It is true. He sucked. He also sucked in the SB vs the Rams.

    Get over it. If you were a real Pats fan you’d be thrilled just like when BB had to deal Moss to save the 2010 season. I was thrilled. You probably weren’t.

  80. This is one of the greatest on-line meltdowns I’ve seen. Wonderful entertainment.

  81. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    April 28, 2020 at 7:43 pm
    This is one of the greatest on-line meltdowns I’ve seen. Wonderful entertainment.

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    I agree.

    The Cowboys fan pretending to be a Pats fan (we’ve taken on a ton of Pats fans as bandwagoners from outside the region since about 2007, which sucks), is in full on meltdown mode, after not knowing when Goodell changed the rule. I know the exact DATE.

    Wonderful it is and so easy to bludgeon.

    Now if Goodell would just update us on the Blue Tooth Guy investigation.

  82. Talk about a fraud.
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    Once again you would know a fraud. As I said to you in an earlier article Danny White was my favorite player as a kid. Nothing fraud about it. My other handle on here was patsarticlemustpost but I could not longer post for some reason so I went with DW11. You got me!

    I am not leaving the Pats fan base but I am excited to see Brady play some more football. Just because you have some absurd Brady envy does not make you speak for Pats Nation.

    Why is it you make it so easy for all of us? I just need to paste and cut what you say to describe yourself – “so we can stop seeing these little embarrassing adult fanboys on these boards, because people like you are incredibly annoying, mainly because you lack reading comprehension and then try to put words in people’s mouths on the other side. ” I diid not need to put any words in your mouth.

    You flip flop on Edelman is gold. Once you were proven wrong by being he #17 on the list you changed the narrative to his first 4 years in the league. Then you went onto say it was for when he was a full time punt returner. In 2012 he was the #2 returner next to Welker and averaged his best YPR. He was the #1 in 2013 and he went down YPR for career to 12.52. The best part is you never mentioned anything abut his first four years as a pro. Then the narrative was changed with cherry picked stats and you failed at that as well.

  83. Another Ty gem fro last week.

    He (Malcolm Butler) had already had reduced time into the postseason and he had the flu.
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    Having the flu checks out. Now Ty, how can one have “already had reduced time into the postseason” when the last 4 games of the season Butler played 267 out of 267 defensive snap counts for 100%?

    12.11.17 vs MIA 73 out of 73 defensive snaps for 100%
    12.17.17 vs PIT 66 out of 66 defensive snaps for 100%
    12.24.17 vs BUF 69 out of 69 defensive snaps for 100%
    12.31.17 vs NYJ 59 out of 59 defensive snaps for 100%

    Clearly Butler was playing less and less leading to the playoffs. Oh, by the way, Butler played all 141 defensive snaps the first two playoff games leading to the SB. Guess you did not do your homework here. Did I put words in your mouth? What is your change and narrative to get out of this one?

  84. tylawspick6 says:

    April 28, 2020 at 1:54 pm
    I don’t think Stidham will pout, isolate teammates and not go through his progressions. I think he won’t pout, be a good leader and teammate and go through his progressions like I saw him do very well last preseason shattering Brady and JimmyGs postseasons as rookies. That’s what I think. BB also thinks that since he lowballed Brady last August after seeing his work with Stidham pay off.
    That is a good bet right there.
    Did Brady finish the season in 2001? Cassel in 2008?
    And if BB had dealt Brady in 2017 out from under Brady, Gronk, Butler and Amendola’s passive aggressive antics then, JimmyG would have finished that season, too.
    I could become a millionaire overnight winning bets with people like you. Absolutely clueless.
    BY your logic, Burrow won’t finish his season this year in Cincy because there won’t be camps for these guys to practice. Stidham was ranked behind Burrow in this year’s draft, yet has a full year being trained by BB everyday. Not to mention, taking 1st team reps last December, which I am sure Brady didn’t like either.
    I kinda really like the results when BB works with a QB daily. Brady, Cassell, JimmyG and now Stidham. The only 4 QBs in 20 years to get the daily coaching from BB.
    Do the math.
    The no OTAs and camps will hurt all 32 teams, but based on how organized and streamlined NE is, it’s probably an advantage.
    PS Stidham won’t be leveraging his contract status over the entire team’s head like Brady did last year.
    LOL

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    By your logic, NE is so “streamlined and organized” their redshirt QB will have an advantage over a 20 yr Hall of Fame QB in missing OTAs. riiight.

    And your Brady leadership comments again, are not supported. “Leveraging contract status” is literally what every single sports agent does for their clients every minute of the day. Brady not settling for Nick Foles money and middling-at-best skill players around him is just common sense.

    And comparing Burrow’s ability and expectations with Stidham’s is weird. The Bengals are poorly run and aren’t expected to win much thus Burrow would be given ample room to make as many mistakes as needed. Peyton Manning was not great his first year either. If Stidham is not good next year, Bill will shift things around. He literally benched the highest paid player in NFL history at one point. He drafted many QBs during the Bledsoe/Brady era, just in case. You think BB is giving Stidham the long leash that the Bengals are giving Burrow? That makes no sense given the difference in the franchises and their resepective investments in each player. No evidence supports that. Wrong again.

  85. There’s a “relevant stay-at-home order in Florida”?

    I was trying to turn right on red the other day, and had to wait over 2 minutes for a lull in traffic. But I’m in Jacksonville. Maybe Tampa’s different.

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