David Carr hopes Joe Burrow’s protected better than he was as a rookie

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David Carr knows the situation Joe Burrow is walking into.

And considering the way his own career started after being chosen first overall, he’s hoping things work out differently for the Bengals’ No. 1 overall pick.

Carr was sacked 76 times as a rookie quarterback for the expansion Texans in 2002, setting the stage for a career that never took off. The Bengals certainly struggled up front last year, after 2019 first-rounder Jonah Williams missed his entire rookie season with an injury.

Carr told Tyler Dragon of the Cincinnati Enquirer that he hopes that line is better this year, to give Burrow a chance.

The offensive line needs to improve,” Carr said. “It’s only gonna be about what they put around him. It’s all it’s gonna be.”

Carr was sacked 249 times in his first five seasons with the Texans, but also underwhelmed on his own merits, before settling in as a backup with the Panthers, Giants, and 49ers.

Now working as an analyst at NFL Network, he’s confident that Burrow can handle the situation, and is the most ready of this year’s quarterback class to make an impact. But he said Burrow needs to take control of the team from the moment he walks in (whenever that may be).

“When you’re young you have a tendency to not be as assertive because there are older guys in the room,” Carr said. “I didn’t speak up as much as I should have. I would say do what you’re comfortable with. Obviously learn the system, ingrain yourself with the team. But the quarterback is king. That’s what you kind of have to remember because the team is only gonna go as far as you are. If you’re not comfortable with something, then you need to do it a different way.

“You don’t want to come off as a jerk or a guy who comes into the room and just demands all your way. But the sooner you learn what you like and the sooner you’re comfortable and you know what you’re comfortable with in that system, get more of that.”

And hopefully, Burrow will have a better chance to stay on his feet, which would allow him to show the kind of talent and leadership he displayed at LSU last year.

21 responses to “David Carr hopes Joe Burrow’s protected better than he was as a rookie

  1. Carr was a very good QB coming out of college and Houston got him killed and ruined his career

  2. The Bengals are putting actual resources into the offensive line whereas the Houston Texans only put “hopes and prayers” into the offensive line.

    I don’t think anyone in NFL history took a worst pounding than David Carr when he came into the league.

  3. All these years later it’s still hard to believe how little regard the Texans paid their offensive line, they were unbelievably bad for years.

    This poor guy never had a chance.

  4. Joe needs to keep the dialogue with Peyton and other greats and shut this kind of white noise out entirely. No comparison in QB’s, OLines, or mental toughness. Playoffs this year, speak it in to happening.

  5. The Bengals line played much better in the later half of last season once Cordy Glenn came back to solidify our LT spot and we switched to a blocking scheme that fit our line better. Mixon had 320 yards the first 8 games and 817 after the bye. As long as Jonah is good as promised and the rest of the line improves do to another year together we should be fine.
    Perhaps the fact that Carr wasn’t quite ready for the speed of the NFL after playing at not exactly a powerhouse Fresno State and he was thrust into starting for some reason had something to do with all those sacks. I know his line wasn’t that good being an expansion team but he never seemed to have a good pocket presence even with good teams later in his career. He was a modern day robo-sack.

  6. Lsu’s offensive line was great but took a long time to develop. Joe’s played some shaky games especially versus Florida and Auburn

  7. this is why you the debate will always be whether to play rookies right away or not. a lot of a quarterback’s potential can be messed up by a bad o line.

  8. I’ve been attending college footballs games since the 70s, and having seen Carr three times in person while he was at Fresno State and watched his other games on TV, he was one of the most gifted, natural QBs I ever saw during that period, and that includes Elway’s stint at Stanford.

    Watching his pro career was like watching a slow motion car crash. He got pounded so incessantly that he became the equivalent of those shell shock victims of WWI who endured 90 straight days of artillery bombardment and lost their senses.

    He obviously started hearing footsteps and seemed to become incapacitated by the never-ending pounding. Watching that unfold was one of the saddest things I ever witnessed in the NFL. Hopefully Burrows can avoid that kind of punishment.

  9. Carr still crying after all these years. Excuses are a dime a dozen. Mentally weak guys make bad QBs. That was Carr’s problem. Burrow is mentally strong. The Bengals will thrive and be a contender within a couple years.

  10. Remember Carr started when QBs actually got hit in a way they are protected from (mostly) now. Shattered his confidence, although he was never the fastest processor and held the ball too long.

  11. Every single year we have to hear David Carr “hope” that a rookie gets better protection than he got… Get over it David… Once Derek is no longer playing we will have to listen to David talk about how Antonio Brown screwed his brother out of being a HOFer.

  12. Fun Fact: During his career, David Carr’s passing stats were VERY similar to and in some cases better than Michael Vick’s.

  13. The Texans actually drafted what looked like a pretty good line for Carr. Expansion draft included Ryan young form the Jets who looked promising. And Tony Boselli from the Jags, who was still “rehabbing” from the injury that ended his career. Boselli never even practiced for the team, and Young got hurt, lasted one year before moving on and busting out of the league completely.

  14. David Carr still managing to make headlines with his one claim to fame – got sacked a lot.

  15. I know he took a bunch of sacks but God how many times was he hit?

    That is what ruined him all the hits.

    When a coaching staff can’t protect you it is their fault. Plenty of ways to move the ball don’t involve a seven step drop.

  16. Based on what the Bungles want to do, Burrow will be lucky to make it through the first season without making a trip to IR. As a GM and a head coach, I’d protect him like it was gold in fort knox. The key for LONG TERM success is getting him up to speed where the investment is protected – even if the team has to continue losing to do it, that what must be done. And then if he must play due to injury to the spare tire starter, then have at it.

    But to just throw him to the wolves shows why the Bungles are the Bungles.

  17. The line isn’t what it was at the beginning of last year. I think there is really only one shaky spot now, RT. Although some say the play there was better than fans think.
    At the end of the year the OL was OK in pass-pro and very good in the running game. Now we get our top pick from last year back, a FA signing and a promising rookie. Plus Burrow is very good at avoiding sacks and making plays under pressure.
    Should be good.

  18. But Bill O’Brien fixed this for DeShaun Watson by stealing, literally stealing Laremy Tunsil from the Dolphins (if you’re smart, and you break down the trade, all of it, including the Texans draft position in certain rounds (late), the Dolphins draft position in certain rounds (early) not just selected parts to fit a “we hate Bill O’Brien” narrative”. He wasn’t going to let the same thing that happened to Carr happen to Watson.

    The Texans had the 26th pick in round one last week (traded to Miami), and would have ended up with the 6th tackle off the board (5 had been taken in the top 25 picks) and would have had to wait 2-3 seasons (at best especially given this offseason with Covid-19 is going to delay the advancement of many draftees) until they knew if the prospect was any good or not. Instead, the Texans had pro-bowler Tunsil last year and now locked up for the next 5 years (4 yrs extension, 1 existing), a known commodity, all during most of Watson’s prime years.

    But all you hear is complaints about O’Brien by an agenda driven media (in large part because O’Brien rightfully despised CBS’ Nick Wright when he was a radio jock in Houston, and Wright cowardly bashes O’Brien all the time with his tv platform) and millennial minded, not overly bright, media.

    The Texans oline is going to be good, very good. Anchored by Tunsil, it added 1st and 2nd round rookies Howard and Scharping, has the very good Martin at center and just drafted the massive son of former Chief lineman Andy Heck out of UNC. Tunsil didn’t join the team until week 1 of the season and their line as it is now, didn’t play together first until about week 6…by the end of the 2020 season (assuming there is one), it’s going to be one of the better olines and will be for years to come. Thanks to O’Brien who has been in the process of fixing many of former GM’s Rick Smith’s failures and doing so short-handed with draft picks after Smith had to give picks to Cleveland to get rid of Brock Osweiller then give up more picks to go get Watson.

    David Carr knows of what he speaks, he lived it, got the crap beaten out of him because of it. Aside from QB the most important position in the NFL is either LT or DL (assuming the interior DL is of Aaron Donald or Fletcher Cox ilk, if not it’s DE)….and O’Brien now has studs with Watson, Tunsil, and heck he even has Watt at DE/OLB.

  19. Everybody likes to blame the Texans for how bad Carr was, Bottom line is he didn’t put in the effort that other top QBs put in. Like staying after practice to get in extra work, putting in extra hour studding film etc.. Not to mention having happy feet, not being able to read a D, and not being able to tell when he had pressure on his back side.

  20. Here’s hoping Joe Burrow’s daddy doesn’t have to follow him to practice.
    Here’s hoping Joe Burrow actually understands that watching tape is part of being an NFL QB…and that’s it’s not a 9-5 job if you plan on actually being any good.

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