Sean Payton doesn’t believe NFL will investigate James Harrison’s claims

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Yes, Saints coach Sean Payton has questions about whether the league will explore former Steelers linebacker James Harrison’s claim that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin gave Harrison “an envelope” after Harrison was fined $75,000 for an illegal hit in 2010. No, Payton doesn’t expect to get any answers.

“If people are waiting for the league to investigate that, they shouldn’t hold their breath,” Payton told Jason La Canfora of 105.7 The Fan in Baltimore, via Luke Johnson of the New Orleans Advocate. “I think what took place with us back in [2012] in so many ways was a sham, and yet there wasn’t a lot we could do with it. The players were vindicated, but from a . . . coaching standpoint, there is no union. There is no representation.”

So does Payton expect the league to do anything at all about Harrison’s candid remarks, which are far more credible on the surface than the sour grapes from someone with an axe to grind against Tomlin?

“I would be shocked,” Payton said. “That’ll be something that’s tucked away under the rug at Park Avenue. They’ll look into it briefly. Listen, don’t get me started on that. I lost $6 million in salary, and honestly it was something that I’ll never truly get over because I know how it was handled and how it was run and the reasons behind it. That’s just the truth.”

Payton could be tempting fate by complaining publicly about the way the NFL handled the bounty scandal.   But if the NFL smacks Payton for raising concerns about a double standard without investigating Harrison’s contention, that will make the league’s failure to look into the Harrison situation more glaring.

26 responses to “Sean Payton doesn’t believe NFL will investigate James Harrison’s claims

  1. Shut up Sean, signed, Saints fan who has witnessed 10 years of bad calls, no calls, and overall unfairness for questioning the almighty Commish.

  2. Steelers, Giants, Jets, Colts, and Ravens never get punished. Tampering with other teams’ players, tampering with equipment, deflated footballs, illegal communications, assault cover-ups, etc…

  3. Even if true, it’s going to be a tough thing to prove. Harrison said Tomlin handed him an envelope. Never said what was in it. Could have been $75K. Could have been a ‘Thank You’ card. Even if one of those answers is a lot more likely than the other, good luck proving it.

  4. Whether the Steelers are guilty remains to be seen. The Saints were clearly guilty. Payton has no reason to be complaining.

  5. Curious. If that was cash I sure hope he reported it to the IRS. If I’m the IRS I’m wondering how often this goes unreported….

  6. Look who’s talking. Didn’t Saints put a bounty on Favre and got suspended for only a year, which should’ve been life time ban?

  7. 75k to these guys is like 100 to a poor man. Neither James nor Mike are worried 75k.

  8. Maybe I am mistaken, but when I read the previous post where Harrison said Tomlin gave him an envelope, I took it to mean the Steelers were reimbursing Harrison for the fine. I never considered that this could be considered a bounty but rather that the Steelers were reimbursing Harrison because they felt the hit was legal so no need for a fine. This could certainly be a salary cap violation but not a bounty.

  9. Just cuz we clearly get screwed in every way possible doesn’t mean we should shut up about it. No thank you.

  10. Slight problem with your rant, Sean. Your coach Gregg Williams actually ADMITTED to Goodell about the bounties…

    The league found EMAILS that documented the bounty program, and have proof that Payton read the email Michael Ornstein sent for bounty to knock out Aaron Rodgers. I suggest next time DON’T leave a paper trail.

    And no, the players WERE NOT “vindicated.” Ex-commish Tagliabue said that despite the players being “very much involved”, it was the coaches that organized it.

    Here, we can only hope Tomlin/Harrison aren’t dumb enough to leave a paper trail or have one of their own coaches ADMIT to anything in front of the league…

  11. While neither is good, this is apples to oranges.

    Even if there was $75k in the envelope, paying someone after the fact for a hit that took place is different than setting up an entire system around throwing cheap shots. It’s like comparing a kid cheating on a single math test with an organized cheating ring.

  12. Sean is right, and I don’t think Saints fans, or any fans, SHOULD ever get over that, OR the infamous no call. The NFL is a private business. Don’t let competition cloud the obvious.

  13. Still holding onto Bountygate I see… close to a decade later. Guess that means we’ll be hearing about the missed PI until about 2027… at least.

  14. kevin7777777 says:
    May 14, 2020 at 8:50 pm
    Whether the Steelers are guilty remains to be seen. The Saints were clearly guilty. Payton has no reason to be complaining.

    Your statement is factually incorrect. The Saints players were vindicated. Only two people were punished because they had no appeals process. Cost Sean Payton alone $6M.

  15. Why is Sean Payton on a Baltimore radio station and when was this? I thought this story broke sometime last night. Did they get Payton on right after the story broke specifically for the purpose of talking about it given his DIRECT involvement in Bounty Gate? (yes I’m still bitter)

    Not trying to be “get off my lawn guy” just genuinely curious.

  16. NE and especially NO fans should be outraged if nothing comes of this.

  17. samapoc says: “Your statement is factually incorrect. The Saints players were vindicated. Only two people were punished because they had no appeals process. Cost Sean Payton alone $6M.”
    ————————-

    WRONG.

    – Players were NOT “vindicated.” Tagliabue said in his ruling, “I AFFIRM Commissioner Goodell’s factual findings as to the four players. I conclude that Hargrove, Smith and Vilma—but not Fujita—engaged in ‘conduct detrimental to the integrity of, and public confidence in, the game of professional football …” The penalties were vacated because the coaches led the scheme.

    – more than two were punished. Willliams – indefinite, Payton – 1 year, GM Loomis – 8 games, Joe Vitt – 6 games, Benson – max $500k, lost of draft picks. Loomis, Payton and Vitt all appealed their suspensions on March 30, 2012.

  18. akira1971:
    THe Saints players and coaches, were this to have happened recently, would have and should have gone to court over this, and all of these ‘private rulings’ would easily be overturned by a thorough and public reading of the charges allegations and evidence. The perception at the time was that players and coaches could not sue the NFL. Not the ‘case’ anymore.
    the NFL didnt stand a chance,

  19. Ahzroc, they would LOSE in courts. As shown in Deflategate, courts do not overturn things negotiated in the CBA.

  20. Of course the second this ‘potential’ story comes to light, Sean is on it immediately. This dude is disgraced and it is unbelievably embarrassing to have a year-long suspension on your record for a bounty program. But anything to try to make someone else the one to blame, right Sean?

  21. Let’s review. Number of Saints players the NFL showed were paid for injuring a player…0. Number of players the NFL showed were injured from the BountyFarce program…0. Number of payoffs the NFL was able to show (in 50,000 pages of evidence) for injuring an opposing player…again 0. Rank of Saints in Personal Foul penalties during the BountyFarce period…second fewest in the league. If they ran a program that paid players to injure the opposition they were very bad at it. Tags knew they had nothing but couldn’t undo what Goodell did. They had a program to reward big defensive plays…just like everybody else. Yeah, they weren’t supposed to but the Saints were sacrificed so they could head off big-time concussion lawsuits and pretend they were concerned about player safety.

  22. What the Saints did rated a 5-yard penalty. They didn’t hurt anyone. They broke the rules in the locker room, not on the field. What they got was two 15-yarders with fines and ejections. Totally excessive.

  23. akira1971 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 10:00 am

    WRONG.

    – Players were NOT “vindicated.” Tagliabue said in his ruling, “I AFFIRM Commissioner Goodell’s factual findings as to the four players. I conclude that Hargrove, Smith and Vilma—but not Fujita—engaged in ‘conduct detrimental to the integrity of, and public confidence in, the game of professional football …” The penalties were vacated because the coaches led the scheme.

    – more than two were punished. Willliams – indefinite, Payton – 1 year, GM Loomis – 8 games, Joe Vitt – 6 games, Benson – max $500k, lost of draft picks. Loomis, Payton and Vitt all appealed their suspensions on March 30, 2012.

    akira1971 is blindly living with a big roger goodell stick up the bunghole. You must be the life of any party. Especially a communist party.. Believe whatever the leader says. He would never distort facts or have an agenda.

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