NFL proposing plan to incentivize minority hiring with draft position

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Commissioner Roger Goodell admitted during Super Bowl week that more needed to be done to create opportunities for minority coach and General Manager candidates.

Now, he’s going to do something about it, perhaps including draft incentives for teams.

According to Jim Trotter of NFL Network, the league will present a pair of resolutions at Tuesday’s virtual meeting to try to create more movement.

The first would remove the barrier that prevents assistants under contract with a team to interview for “bona fide” coordinator jobs with other teams, with Goodell reserving the right to determine if it’s an actual coordinator role.

The other, more revolutionary idea, would allow teams to improve their draft position by hiring minority candidates.

Under the proposal, a team that hires a minority head coach would move up six spots in the third round of the following year’s draft. Hiring a minority for the top personnel job would create a 10-spot improvement. Ostensibly a team that hired a minority coach and G.M. would see their third-round pick improve by 16 slots in draft order.

Also, a team’s fourth-round pick would improve by five spots in the coach or G.M.’s third year.

Hiring a minority candidate as a quarterbacks coach would bring a team a compensatory fourth-round pick.

If a minority assistant became a coordinator elsewhere, his old team would get a fifth-round compensatory pick. Losing a minority coach head coach or G.M. would bring the old team a third-round compensatory pick.

Whether a few spots in draft order or an extra mid-round pick would change things fundamentally remains to be seen. It’s also unclear whether owners — who generally make big changes slowly — will go for it.

Last year, only one of five head coaching jobs was filled by a minority, leaving the league at status quo since Ron Rivera was fired by Carolina and hired by Washington. That kept the league at four minority coaches, along with Mike Tomlin, Anthony Lynn, and Brian Flores. When the Browns named Andrew Berry G.M., he doubled the number of minorities in those jobs (joining Chris Grier in Miami).

179 responses to “NFL proposing plan to incentivize minority hiring with draft position

  1. One of the most racist ideas I have ever heard. So much for hiring the best candidate

  2. Penalties should also occur for Hiring non minority applicant for HC. It should make the team have their highest pick drop 5 spots, plus twice the round it is. Thus, second rd drops 9, 3rd rd drops 11, 4th drops 13..

  3. Roger: “Forcing them to interview minorities doesn’t seem to be working the way we want. I guess we’ll bribe them!”

    Seriously, what the hell is this? Forget best guy for the job, now it’s “let’s hire a minority so we can jump up in the draft.”

  4. You hire the right person for the job no matter their skin color. Sham jobs for people solves nothing

  5. I guess they’re goin with the ancient proverb “some ideas are better than no ideas”. I don’t like it, seems counterintuitive.

  6. you hire the best man or woman for the job regardless of color. So a team could hire all minorities, get more draft picks and hire someone else the following year. How dumb.

  7. This would never convince a team to hire a minority. Teams hire the best person for the job because they want to win and make money. The implication here is that team owners are racist enough to not hire someone because he isn’t white and stupid enough to be swayed by moving up 10 spots in the third round. This is an insulting proposal to everyone involved.

  8. Stop man, please just stop. Just let Owners/GMs pick whoever they want to be their HCs and let the results speak for themselves. This wouldn’t help anything, it just makes it worse.

  9. You’d think it was 1950 instead of 2020

    It’s time to let qualifications lead the way ….

  10. You can’t force employers to hire non deserving job candidates because of their race or religion.

    If you’re truly that good at that you do, race, creed & religion mean nothing.

  11. Absolutely love the NFL, even with some of the nonsense over the past few years over a few issues that have taken place. While very frustrating, I never thought to myself, this makes the NFL just not worth the watch anymore. However, improving a teams draft position based off hiring someone of a certain background … that would certainly do it for me.

  12. So does it stack? Otherwise the team is just going to hire one minority just to get the pick. Kinda like how I have to buy that little bar of soap in order to get Prime shipping.

  13. One of the most racist ideas I have ever heard. So much for hiring the best candidate

    in an ideal I would 100% agree, but there has been a severe imbalance for decades, so what should be done? nothing? it certainly is not an ideal world, the injustice has existed since the birth of a nation (yes, done intentionally)

  14. Why not do this, if you hire a non minority candidate then you loose a 3rd round draft pick for the next two years plus your team starts the new coaches season with 4 loses . I mean if you are going look at ways to implement a quota system might as well dig up every bad idea you can think of.

  15. If you don’t get minority candidates into minor positions within organizations, they will never get to be “qualified” or the “best candidate”. The Rooney rule should be expanded to all positions within football organizations.

  16. 3rd and 4th rounders, in one year’s draft? I can’t see that changing behavior at all.

  17. That’s it!!! This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today..better yet, in a long time.

  18. I’d think it would be pretty demeaning to be hired just so the team can get a little bump in draft position…

  19. The U.S. will never be a socialist country. Get these socialist ideas out of here

  20. How about an incentive for more diversity in player drafting then ? The current makeup of NFL players looks nothing like the demographics of the United States.

  21. This is incredibly stupid. The Rooney Rule is stupid enough, but this is circus territory now. It’s not enough that 80% of the players are minorities? Where’s the incentive to sign white players?

  22. Wow, how incredibly offensive to minorities. The NFL is basically saying that minority candidates aren’t as qualified as their majority counterparts and admitting that NFL owners/decision makers are racist.

  23. It seems like they are trying to make a positive change, but this just flat out isnt how you go about it.

  24. I don’t like this but something has to be done. Because I cant explain Joe Judge or Kliff Kingsbury.

  25. Could a team churn through minority coaching hires on one year deals like the Patriots churn through free agents on one year deals to get supplemental draft picks when they leave after the season ends?

  26. So if you’re tanking, you just hire Steve Wilks and you’ll automatically improve your draft position too. The only problem is he pisses off all the players, but hey, at least you’ll have your tank and improved draft too.

  27. Good. To those who say “hire the most qualified regardless of race,” race inescapably factors into peoples´ perception of what “most qualified” means. If you think you can make decisions without bias, then that is only because your bias is so effortless and natural that you don’t recognize it. That goes double for plutocrats and NFL owners.

  28. Ruins the integrity of the game even more than what it already has… Ridiculous!

  29. I support having more minorities as HCs and GMs, but the bit about rewarding teams who keep the minority hires beyond 1-2 seasons with improved draft positioning is a little much. I support the first proposal listed. The second one, not so much.

  30. Expect the best non-minority coaches to start migrating to the college game. Its the law of unintended consequences.

  31. “Hey guys. There were gonna hire someone more qualified than me but I’m here for the pick.” Can you imagine.

  32. The issue I have with this is the size of the pool of people who are eligible to be hired as a HC or GM. The better, but longer term, option is to encourage hiring minority assistants and staff to get their foot in the door. Once you get in on the ground floor it becomes a more level playing field.

  33. I have an idea. How about the league has to resemble the racial make up of the general population. I bet this whole bs would stop pretty fast with a rule like this being talked about.

  34. Hey, go down to the liquor store corner and hire Tito! He will get us a franchise QB because of it!

  35. What will the league do to incentivize teams to get more white players on the football field then? Whites are the minority in that department. Just throwing that out there to show how stupid the whole thing is.

  36. tiredofcowards says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:46 pm
    Wouldn’t mind seeing Goodell replaced by a minority candidate.
    _____________________

    Yes, when Roger announces these new incentives he should announce that he is stepping down immediately so that a minority candidate can replace him

  37. I’m curious what the minority readership on this site thinks about the idea. Does it address an issue or insult otherwise qualified candidates? Would you want to get a job under those circumstances?

  38. Nobody is talking about the absolute disgrace of there being ZERO white corners in the NFL despite whites being 72.4% of the US population.

  39. While the Rooney Rule had good intentions, it’s been nothing but a box to check and one extra step for teams to take seeking a new coach. This plan seems like it inherently creates incentives for unfair advantages for teams when it comes to draft position and may lead to hiring a candidate more because the team is concerned with position than the candidate. I’m in favor of getting minority coach candidates to the same starting spot as any other coaching candidate, but I don’t think is the right way to achieve that end.

  40. amyisraelchai1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm
    The U.S. will never be a socialist country. Get these socialist ideas out of here

    ***************************

    This isn’t remotely socialist. However the publuc schooling that so obviously failed you? Socialism. This here internet? Brought to you by socialism. As were the highways you drive on. And the military that protects us all. If you want to learn more, try your local library, or use the phone in your hand to access the Library of Congress, also provided by socialism. And your PUA benefits and “Social” Security you will benefit from.

  41. Perhaps Goodell should lead by example on this one by hiring a minority as his replacement, then resign immediately after.

  42. Why doesn’t the NFL make each team create a director of diversity position which is always manned by some minority or other. Then they can add one more round to the draft and everyone gets another draft pick!

    Problem solved.

  43. Letting more assistants interview for coordinator jobs is a good thing.

    Moving teams up the draft board because they hired a minority is idiotic — and I am pretty far left on social issues. This is just a bad idea. It comes from a good intent but it’s a terrible idea. Like…it’s a laughably stupid idea.

  44. no. No. NO. NO!

    The idea was to help minorities to “get on even footing” for these job opportunities. It was NOT to “REWARD minority hiring.” This is stupid. You want the best person for the job, not the best minority person for the job.

  45. How Ridiculous! What a slap in the face to minorities. Well you’re a black head coach, so your team is going to need all the help it can get. Here’s a higher draft pick.

  46. The only people who wouldn’t see this as racist are those who have bought into the lie that racism against white people isn’t really racism because… reasons.

    How about a program to identify, train and publicize minority coaching candidates to make them more attractive to teams? That’d be a far better solution than racism like the Rooney Rule and this nonsense.

  47. pooman420 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:32 pm
    Good. To those who say “hire the most qualified regardless of race,” race inescapably factors into peoples´ perception of what “most qualified” means. If you think you can make decisions without bias, then that is only because your bias is so effortless and natural that you don’t recognize it. That goes double for plutocrats and NFL owners.

    =========

    What? No! 7 minute abs!!!!!!

  48. Dont like draft position coming into play. Use money or whatever else….but it negatively affects the five teams in front of them that year for no fault of their own, while not affecting the other 26 teams. Its a bad idea.

  49. marshun1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:24 pm
    I don’t like this but something has to be done. Because I cant explain Joe Judge or Kliff Kingsbury.

    3 43 Rate This
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    I can.
    Joe Judge = Patriots (Bill Belichick) connection
    Kliff Kingsbury = The ‘mastermind’ that developed Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech University.

  50. So why is it ok to have a team makeup of 85% African American ? Where are the white, Asian, Hispanic players ? We accept this because we want to see the best players play regardless of color.Why is that not true for coaches? Is it racist to say that? The day the league says only 50% of your team can be African American, the other 50% has to be other races is the day they should start dictating incentivizing coach hires by race. Open more interview availability, that makes sense

  51. This idea is as bad as having Bill Vinovich officiate an important game….it like, ” oh crap does he have money on my team or the other guys!”

  52. Think of the Coach that is supremely qualified, and worked all his life for a shot. And in the interview is told the team needs better draft picks, so we are going with someone else. That is what will happen.. that’s called racism

  53. “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” – Chief Justice John Roberts, June 28, 2007

    So-called “benign discrimination” (e.g., improving NFL teams’ draft position for hiring non-white coaches or GMs) is still discriminating on the basis of race.

  54. hodor44 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:21 pm
    How about an incentive for more diversity in player drafting then ? The current makeup of NFL players looks nothing like the demographics of the United States.
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    This is an excellent point. Besides, who doesn’t want the best players for their team?
    If there’s one thing we’ve learned from the grievance politics, fairness is the last thing those advocates for same want. They want control, and whoever doesn’t know that is willfully ignorant.

  55. OK so they’re thinking about giving out draft picks for hiring black assistants and coaches, isn’t this just bribery plain and simple?

    Not only is it bribery it’s racist!

    In 2017 the NFL started the season with 8 minority HCs, we ended the season with 2, who’s fault is that? It isn’t anyone elses fault those guys couldn’t do the job, blacks aren’t the only the HCs that were fired and the last time I checked there’s been more white HCs fired for the exact same thing, not doing a good enough job, but I never heard anyone scream racist when a white HC gets fired or passed over for a job!

    I guess racism is a one way street!

    BTW go ahead and do this and I’ll stop watching the NFL!

  56. Why stop there? Sell your team to a minority owner for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

  57. What if the team is already in the top half of the third round? Like what if they fire their coach and GM after an 8-8 season (Looking at you, Houston) and they have the 15th pick in the third round? Do they move into the second?

  58. So a team that hired a black coach in the previous cycle could actually have its draft position weakened in the following cycle because of another team’s hire.

    Sounds like a terrible idea.

    I do think that loosening restrictions on assistants, coordinators, anyone interviewing for positions is a good thing, though. The draft thing is incredibly artificial, but removing obstacles to people pursuing jobs and pursuing candidates for jobs would be a way to allow natural demand to work better.

  59. Incentives to hire Minorities isn’t being racist against white people, its called “leveling the playing field”. You can’t BE racist against white people, because being white comes in with so many built in advantages and privileges that a rule like this is a drop in the bucket when it comes to real fairness. The league is just trying to come up with ways to make things a little more fair. Minorities are good enough to go out and get their heads bashed in during their playing days, but apparently aren’t good enough to hire into positions of authority in post playing days, implying that they are not seen as smart enough or wise in comparison to white people. I applaud the positive action and look forward to an expansion of such ideas in the future.

  60. BTW I have a novel idea to limit the number of 1st round QBs that are busts which currently stands right about 70% from 2000-16, lets give the SB winner & playoff teams the first picks of the 1st round only, SB winner gets the 1st overall followed by the SB loser getting 2nd overall and so on, not only would that stop any team from tanking it’d give them the incentive to win and that’d cut down these QBs going to the worst teams and then there wouldn’t be so many busts and in-turn shortened QB careers!

    When the worst teams get the best QB and they think that one player is going to turn the team around their management isn’t thinking correctly or anywhere even close, it takes more than one player to turn a team around!

    Why did Mahomes turn out so good? Because he didn’t go to a bottom feeder and that’s what I attribute 50% of his success on, imagine if he’d have landed on the Skins, Jets or Bengals, do you really believe he’d be anywhere close to as good with them as he is with a team that was near the top already? HELL NO he wouldn’t because it takes a “TEAM” to make a QB look good!

    We have to get these top QBs to start going to better teams or the bust rate for 1st round QBs will just continue to climb as it has been for 20yrs!

  61. Funny don’t hear anything about more minorities joining the military. Why no push there?

  62. Yeah I’m pretty sure the majority of the owners will tell them to go pound sand. What a ridiculously stupid idea. So what happens when a team fires a minority are they going to have draft picks taken away? Martin Luther King would be insulted by this idiotic idea.

  63. Unbelievably stupid idea. How in the world does this help minority candidates when they and everyone involved with the sport will suspect they only got the job due to a bribe? This whole thing is absurd. When did we lose sight of the fact that some candidates just aren’t impressive in interviews? For years people were yelling about how Mike Singletary deserved a HC job even though the word was he didn’t impress in interviews for HC positions. Then he gets one and drops his pants during a press conference. It’s about the individual not the skin color. This is just another artificial way to try and achieve a better balance instead of doing it on merit.

  64. You white trump supporters don’t need to fill the comments up here! I’m an African American Veteran and this is the most offensive and ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of! I’d join a class-action lawsuit to fight it!

  65. hyprcaffeinated says:
    May 15, 2020 at 5:06 pm
    I’m curious what the minority readership on this site thinks about the idea. Does it address an issue or insult otherwise qualified candidates? Would you want to get a job under those circumstances?
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    Is it really that different than getting a job because you were on Belichick’s staff? Where’s all the success on that coaching tree? (Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Josh McDaniels, Bill Obrien, Eric Mangini) If you believe there are never any external factors for other people getting jobs, whether its their connections, who their dad was, etc. then you’re pretty naive.

  66. This sounds like a test of Poe’s law. I am a very liberal/libertarian person and this sounds like purposeful absurdity. Just floating the idea is lunacy.

    I think the concept of affirmative action is good. The execution of it has always been terrible, with the exception of Title IX, which was affirmative action toward solving a different inequity

  67. bajer says:
    May 15, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    One of the most racist ideas I have ever heard. So much for hiring the best candidate

    in an ideal I would 100% agree, but there has been a severe imbalance for decades, so what should be done? nothing? it certainly is not an ideal world, the injustice has existed since the birth of a nation (yes, done intentional).

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    Sorry, I took civil service tests in the 70’s and 80’s only to be passed over by less qualifies women and minorities. Ever since then I never voted for a democrat again.

  68. Rodger needs to go to these websites that have comments then just maybe he’ll “GET A CLUE”!

  69. And why is this only brought up by the same few individuals every single off-season and it grows legs, do these few people have something on Rodger that’s making him go to the ends of the earth pushing this reverse racism!

    The NFL is what 75% black players yet I don’t hear anyone screaming for MORE WHITE PLAYERS!

  70. For those just saying this is a dumb idea, either suggest something better or you’re accepting the current situation is fine, which it clearly isn’t. Just saying this is dumb is you trolling and not helpful.

  71. People that believe in such deologies should seek out a surgeon using the same criterion.

  72. I don’t think the incentives are great enough to convince teams not to hire the best candidate if they weren’t from a minority group.

  73. aj66shanghai says:
    May 15, 2020 at 5:09 pm
    amyisraelchai1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm
    The U.S. will never be a socialist country. Get these socialist ideas out of here

    ***************************

    This isn’t remotely socialist. However the publuc schooling that so obviously failed you? Socialism. This here internet? Brought to you by socialism. As were the highways you drive on. And the military that protects us all. If you want to learn more, try your local library, or use the phone in your hand to access the Library of Congress, also provided by socialism. And your PUA benefits and “Social” Security you will benefit from.

    ————-

    The internet, highways, military, libraries, and social security aren’t socialist.

  74. Guess that settles it. All minorities get to pick first in their fantasy league drafts too!

  75. Can’t wait for the NFL to start focusing on LGBT (or whatever the group calls itself these days) hires! THAT will be a Press Conference to watch!

  76. Apply this to the nfl commissioner position, at present it sure isn’t the most qualified.

  77. sbc2556 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 6:09 pm
    You white trump supporters don’t need to fill the comments up here
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    *President Trump

  78. Patrick H says:

    Incentives to hire Minorities isn’t being racist against white people, its called “leveling the playing field”. You can’t BE racist against white people, because being white comes in with so many built in advantages and blah blah…
    =================================================

    What a bizarre and creepy thought process. Perhaps you should look up the word racist in the dictionary 😉

  79. I can remember all the naysayers after Brian Flores was hired by Miami. Thing is, he wasnt hired because of his race and the people who didnt like the hire, race had nothing to do with it. None.

    This is the NFL picking a decades old scab to look “woke”. At least their Clintonite spokesman Joe Lockhart is now back on CNN.

    This whole idea is just plain dumb and lazy.

  80. Nothing quite displays privilege like a comment thread. “We should have all of the jobs, not just a disproportionately high percentage of them.” Interesting how the majority on this thread actually believe that with only 2 minority GMs and 4 minority head coaches, that they were all hired strictly on merit. Now that’s dumb. Or, maybe just admit that you believe that White people are inherently more qualified to coach and pick players? Which would be quite ironic in a game dominated by minorities at the FBS & NFL levels. You don’t want equity or equality, because then you’re not privileged. The majority had never lived that experience so it’s just not palatable. A 50/50 chance just isn’t quite White enough.

  81. Patrick H says:

    Incentives to hire Minorities isn’t being racist against white people, its called “leveling the playing field”. You can’t BE racist against white people, because being white comes in with so many built in advantages and blah blah…

    This is the stupid logic that prevails amongst the left. Oy.

  82. Skin color should never be a factor. Id take Tomlin over Garret every day of the week. So what constitutes minority? Half hispanic? 1 1/16 cherokee? So just caucasian is bad? For real? I know some pretty smart minirities and some super dumb caucasians. I am not leaving my teams success to hire a white guy. Sorry. I will hire the guy I buy into. I was all for Charlie Strong at Texas and I was all for Mack taking a hike. Then I wished Charlie would have had success. Not caise he is black but because he is an amazing man.

  83. Minorities should be absolutely offended by this. We will improve your draft position if you hire minorities. Really……this is the solution a multi billion dollar company came up with. How about providing more african americans opportunities to own teams and not just be hired for coordinator roles. If you want to improve the hiring processes of the nfl, hire minorities to positions of ownership and allow the league to change from the top down. But the good old boys dont want that to happen so you get idiotic amd insulting ideas like this.

  84. mballeat says:
    May 15, 2020 at 6:27 pm
    For those just saying this is a dumb idea, either suggest something better or you’re accepting the current situation is fine, which it clearly isn’t. Just saying this is dumb is you trolling and not helpful.
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    At least with the current system the teams can hire who they “feel” is the best candidate for the position and that’s the fairest system there can be!

    When you do something like affirmative action it rewards some of the bottom people while the best get pentalized! And then these leaders sit around and scratch their heads wondering “why can’t we find any qualified people”?

    You can, you just found a way to pass over them by rewarding the bottom half!

  85. wreed1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 6:38 pm
    aj66shanghai says:
    May 15, 2020 at 5:09 pm
    amyisraelchai1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm
    The U.S. will never be a socialist country. Get these socialist ideas out of here

    ***************************

    This isn’t remotely socialist. However the publuc schooling that so obviously failed you? Socialism. This here internet? Brought to you by socialism. As were the highways you drive on. And the military that protects us all. If you want to learn more, try your local library, or use the phone in your hand to access the Library of Congress, also provided by socialism. And your PUA benefits and “Social” Security you will benefit from.

    ————-

    The internet, highways, military, libraries, and social security aren’t socialist

    ______________________

    Welcome to 2020, where faith becomes fact. We pool our collective money to pay for things that could not be accomplished by individuals. AKA socialism. Your belief that socialism means “the boogeyman” does not change that one iota.

    Incidentally, public schooling, public healthcare, and social security were all first implemented in America, the literal birthplace of modern socialism

  86. White coaches are no better than minority coaches, they get fired all the time and yet keep getting rewarded with new jobs with apologists calling it, “New scenery.” Which is idiotic. Most of these coaches aren’t good enough to be at the NFL level, but here they are. How much black ownership is there in the league? Exactly. It’s completely imbalanced at the top, but not because the white guys are better, but because they’re white and want to stay together.

  87. Btw I am not a socialist nor do I advocate for socialist issues. I am just a person who understands that words have actual meanings, and apply them appropriately

  88. If I’m a team owner, can I buy my own dice, or must I use the weighted pair provided by the league?

  89. Teams who start a white CB, and who have a white CB play in over 50% of snaps would see their draft position improved by at least the same number of spots, even more, if they started TWO white CB’s…because they would be last in pass defense.

    This is one of the dumber things Roger has ever come up, probably trying to get the Steelers bounty program off the front burner.

  90. ….I love privileged whiners. I told you a long time ago your not ready for hard times.
    Your base alloy of hypocrisy will never let you see light.

    #seekforgiveness

  91. bobthebob12 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 5:18 pm
    marshun1 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:24 pm
    I don’t like this but something has to be done. Because I cant explain Joe Judge or Kliff Kingsbury.

    3 43 Rate This
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    I can.
    Joe Judge = Patriots (Bill Belichick) connection
    Kliff Kingsbury = The ‘mastermind’ that developed Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech University.
    ====================================

    Did you see Mahomes results at Texax Tech? He was nothing to write home about, absolutely nothing, 12-13 his last two seasons and he wasn’t even considered to be a 1st round QB by most of the top analyst! And I truly believe where Mahomes landed had the most to do with him being as successful as he has been, first off he didn’t land on a bottom feeder team, he went to KC and they were good already. Imagine if he’d have went to the Skins, Jets or Bengals, we wouldnt have seen anywhere close to the same results. Second he was let sit for a season and learn and I think the one thing that ruins a lot of these kids is they are drafted for what most would call the hardest position in all of sports and then they are thrown straight to the wolves. QB is the most complex, hardest to learn position in all of sports and no one can learn all they need to know in a few short weeks of training camp and 4 partial pre-season games.

    BTW Kingsbury wasn’t even good, 35-40 at TT and 1-3 in bowl games, he was a joke at best and gets rewarded with an NFL HC job, there were many better candidates! I’ll never understand the Kingsbury hiring or Taylor getting a HC position, but that’s why those teams are two long time bottom feeders, they don’t make the smartest decisions, never did!

  92. So the NFL’s answer for too many white coaches is blatant reverse racism? If you want to see more minorities hired, you will likely need to see the minority head coaches that are there generally outcoach their majority counterparts. It’s similar to quarterbacks, success will breed success. If you get a minority version of Bill Belicheck-like success, that will open the gates. Until then, the best they can do is have a GM/Owners meeting where they discuss the need to take a hard look at themselves when hiring. Aside from that, who is to say that they aren’t hiring the best candidate for the job? I’m sure most owners feel like they’re hiring the best candidate, or they’re cutting off their nose to spite their face.

  93. To everyone who thinks this is a good idea, I will point out situations like Florida State. The AD was a minority hire and said that he wanted a minority head coach. So to be the wokest of the woke, he hire Willie Taggart. The guy was not ready. That was evident of his career losing record and have more than 8 wins in 2 of his 8 seasons. This will happen in the NFL. Some owner will jump at the chance of hiring a minority coach for the sake of him being a minority coach. If that person is not ready and the team suffers, that will set him back for years. Let the top minority candidates get a job in due time. There is only one color in the NFL and that is green. This idea, while well intentioned, is going to end up with disasterous consequences.

  94. Titan says:
    May 15, 2020 at 3:49 pm
    The NFL is too competitive to allow race to play a factor in the hiring process.
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    Yes. The problem is that when that competitiveness leads to hiring predominantly whites, racially motivated people complain about the racism that exists entirely within their own heads. Their fix to the problem they perceive is to insert a competitive advantage for hiring a minority. The entire process is ridiculous. Those people look at the demographics and perceive institutional racism and then their fix is to promote actual institutional racism, but that is ok because it benefits their preferred race which just happens to be a minority. All programs like this one are failures. They elevate race to a higher regard than competence. The truth is unacceptable to them. Johnny did not get hired because he wasn’t good enough or others were better. That fact is unacceptable if Johnny is a minority so it MUST be because there is some sordid racial priority that supersedes competition and common sense. Enough of this garbage.

  95. May I suggest that all that support this idea pool your dollars together, buy a team, then you get to pick both your players and coaches. Your team can be as white as you want, as black as you want, as good as you want or as bad as you want. Your team, your decision.

  96. How is this even legal? I have long argued that the Rooney rule is a complete disaster. It ensures that black candidates end up getting fired. Whenever you introduce something other than merit into the talent pool, you’re going to have a certain number of less qualified candidates get jobs. Because the NFL is the ultimate merit based profession in many ways, according to wins/ losses, those folks are going to end up getting fired. They would do much better to work on more opportunities for minorities coaches at the lower levels and recruitment. Increase the talent pool and stop focusing on race and you ironically will get more black candidates/hires.

  97. What happens if you hire a minority coach get the draft pick and then fired the coach?

  98. 666football666 says:
    May 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm
    It’s completely imbalanced at the top, but not because the white guys are better, but because they’re white and want to stay together.

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    You are aware the owner of the Jags is of middle eastern origin, correct?

  99. I’m sure there have been stupider things, but can’t think of any now. Teams will hire what they feel is the best person available and skin color is very likely NOT a major factor, this is a multi BILLION dollar industry. I don’t see a team hiring what they may feel is an inferior candidate in order to improve their THIRD round draft position. Isn’t the whole issue a bit demeaning for the minority coaches as well? Kind of like the old joke “have to put a pork chop around your neck to get the dog to play with you”.

  100. And what’s to stop the craftier teams from hiring and annually rehiring a GM that’s not really the GM while the head coach or a VP has the real GM power. Multiple teams are set up this way already. Really easy to abuse.

  101. There’s 4 minority head coaches in the league.

    Anthony Lynn
    Brian Flores
    Mike Tomlin
    Ron Rivera

    The rest are white yet the league is 85% black.

  102. I think it’s great that they are working at improving the diversity of the league. They need to “share the wealth” among more minorities. This is unfortunately going to be tough on a lot of black players, however, when they are dropped for the sake of diversity in favor of bringing in a representative number of Hispanic, Asian, and Native American players. I’m sure they will be fine with it though because they are all for equality and diversity. Right?

  103. So lets say a team does decide the draft pick is important enough to go hire a guy simply because he is a minority. Do they get the credit every year he is on the payroll or just the year they hire him? If its the second, if they fire and rehire him every year does that count or do they have to swap guys every year to keep getting it? I wonder how the individuals will feel about getting hired and fired on that basis. Will they feel respected by the organization? Will they feel respected by the league?

  104. The nfl keeps giving fans more reasons to stop watching they seem determined to destroy this once truly great game!

  105. Not BuyingIt says:
    May 15, 2020 at 7:09 pm
    I can remember all the naysayers after Brian Flores was hired by Miami. Thing is, he wasnt hired because of his race and the people who didnt like the hire, race had nothing to do with it. None. He was hired because chris Grier and him are buddies since their afc east scouting days !

  106. Teams should hire the BEST candidate for the job, period. The only minority candidate that has been mentioned for multiple jobs that didn’t get one is Eric Bieniemy.

  107. Proposals like this only make the idea of racism in this country worse on many levels. Here’s one. Where would the incentive be to do a good job toward promotion knowing ahead of time it won’t happen because you were passed over based on skin color.This is what racism is today.Its exactly what needs to be solved. To do that all colors should fight together for appointments and opportunity based on ability and effort. My hope is the term racism or racist will have no use.

  108. I’m interested in knowing how the minority candidates feel about this. Do they feel like a team should be forced to hire minorities whether or not they’re qualified? Also, if you hire a minority coach and he sucks will you be penalized for firing him? Maybe teams can hire a minority to improve draft position and then fire him mid season. If it’s a female minority candidate will that bounce you up to the #1 pick? What a horribly, slippery slope this is and a step backwards for the country as a whole.

  109. If an Owner spends $2 Billion to buy a team they don’t give a damn about the color of their Coach or GM. They want to hire a winner and that’s the bottom line. This is just ridiculous.

  110. Watch, owners will start waving around 23andMe DNA results – “No really, our new hire has 2% Cherokee Indian in him, give us our draft picks!”

  111. OK. Bill Belichick and Eric Bieniemy are available for your HC opening. Who do you pick? The GOAT HC or the qualified minority candidate that will jump you up in the draft? This is a horrible, horrible idea.

    Let’s look at it this way. Do you think the Dolphins woulda hired Flores from the Pats if NE was gonna get a compensatory 3rd for it? You really think the Dolphins would help their division rivals by gift wrapping a 3rd round pick?

    Bieniemy should have gotten a HC job especially over any retreads. And I think that this is the crux of the issue. I can’t fault the Giants for hiring Joe Judge or the Packers for selecting LaFleur. Everyone is trying to find the next McVay. But to basically bribe teams to hire minority coaches or GMs is disrespectful to the candidate, and to penalize a team for not hiring a minority coach or GM is asinine.

  112. The Rooney rule in itself is outdated, dumb, and a huge waste of everyone’s time. This idea is a hundred times worse. Basically paying a team to hire a minority coach or gm instead of hiring a person who is more qualified, fits your system better, or would lead the team in a better way is just asinine. In the real world thankfully we have a thing called EO. That thing where an employer can’t discriminate employment based on race, sex, religion, age, or creed.
    This is a racist, dumb, outdated, demeaning, and backwards way of doing something. This idea in itself looks like some old crusty owner came up with this idea. Most regular intelligent people don’t really care what color you are or if you’re male or female. They base their opinions on you on who you are instead of what you are. That is the way it should be when it comes to everything. If I was a minority who gets hired under this, I would be PO’d. Everyone would look at me like I just got the job to fill a idiotic racist quota, not because I’m the most qualified.

  113. So let me get this straight, I’m an owner who is hiring a coach, and the minority candidate is not as good as the non minority candidate. So, I’m going to pick the minority so I can move up in the 3rd round? 3rd round, not the 1st round….
    If i’m smart, I hire the best candidate period. If he’s a minority, i don’t want a reward. If I hire a minority that is not the best candidate just to get a draft pick, then I’m a moron. (Or I own the Browns)

  114. So what happens if the hiring team then moves up in the draft and then fires the minority one year (like minority coaches)later?

  115. Long story short…the NFL is saying they have a problem- It starts with the owners…Instead of draft pick, give teams more cap space, and get rid of the stupid compensatory picks regardless.

  116. And the refrain BEST MAN FOR THE JOB comes out from the simpletons. Take a look around cliff kingsbury for hired as a head coach. If that isnt white privilege I dont know what is

  117. So NFL owners give their HC’s 10 year extensions so they don’t have to hire eric bieniemy.

  118. Steve Cunningham says:
    May 15, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Did you see Mahomes results at Texax Tech? He was nothing to write home about, absolutely nothing, 12-13 his last two seasons and he wasn’t even considered to be a 1st round QB by most of the top analyst!
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    That’s because their defense gave up more points than Mahomes could score.

  119. The argument for considering such a policy is that the NFL is supposed to be a meritocracy and some (maybe it’s a few, maybe it’s a vast majority, it’s at least some) believe that is not happening right now with the hiring of coaches and G.M.s.

    So the solution being presented is to remove all traces of meritocracy and implement a policy that is so racially biased that it would get thrown out of the Supreme Court by a unanimous vote in less than 30 seconds.

    There’s obviously no “racial” issues with hiring players, like their used to be with QBs; unless someone is a complete “nuclear disaster” to a team (both white and black players have been black-balled over the years…with no apologies to one of the most racist persons on this planet, Jamel Hill, sorry, Colin Kapaernick is not alone and it has 0% to do with his skin color…race-baiter), the best player plays, period. Too much money involved.

    Whether there is a subconscious bias in the hiring of GMs and coaches, I have no idea and I’m not sure anyone has any empirical data that can truly prove things one way or another (sure, any moron can spin data to suit their intention; I’m referring to unbiased, unspun data). Maybe right now the best candidates are of one ethnicity, maybe in 5 years that changes, maybe in another 5 years that changes again. It’s a hard issue to prove one way or another, the best solution in my opinion is open, honest discussions, sunlight is usually the best disinfectant.

    But I do know this. A policy such as being floated about now is absolutely the wrong policy, it should be an embarrassment and an insult to legitimately qualified African-American candidates. There has to be a better solution.

  120. If you think teams are hiring just on qualifications then why isn’t Eric Heineken a HC? He is the OC for the Chiefs and if he wasn’t a minority head would have had a HC job last year. Owners hire who they are comfortable with more then qualifications. That is just the Gods to honest truth. Until there are more minority owners I fear it will continue to be status quo.

  121. Steven Richardson says:
    May 16, 2020 at 2:42 pm
    If you think teams are hiring just on qualifications then why isn’t Eric Heineken a HC? He is the OC for the Chiefs and if he wasn’t a minority head would have had a HC job last year. Owners hire who they are comfortable with more then qualifications. That is just the Gods to honest truth. Until there are more minority owners I fear it will continue to be status quo.

    ———————
    Because he preferred staying with the Chiefs. Its not like thats a failing organization and he’s languishing there or anything. Sometimes guys do decide to stick with their coordinator role for the time being. Especially when its a really good situation like that one is.

  122. Develop a process to include it in the Comp pick formula. No need for a totally separate process.

  123. Tony Dungy getting into the HOF might have set things back by overtly overcompensating a lack of minority coaches.

  124. @Anton Chigurh no maybe you’re confusing Eric Benime with Josh McDaniels who not only got a HC job with Broncos but then got offered another and reniged on the deal and is still heavily sought after. You don’t see any issue with this process. Eric Benime has yet to get an offer but Josh McDaniels has already been a HC and failed and is still getting opportunities. There is nothing fair and equal about the current state of the NFL HC hiring currently if you think so you are in denial. I can give you countless other examples of minority HC being overlooked or not being giving the same opportunities as their white counterparts.

  125. So your a bad team ie the Dolphins, and you really wanted Burrow. You pick no5. So are we saying you might get moved to no1 if we had a black head coach and a black GM. It looks very prone to abuse of some kind . Crazy

  126. This might not be a popular take, but why is it so important to place a focus on what race a head coach is? Over time, if a minority coach is sticking out as a hot name, they will eventually get the job. The Vikings coach (Mike Zimmer) was passed over for head coaching jobs for many years and almost gave up on it, and he’s not only Caucasian, but worked under Bill Parcells while in Dallas winning Superbowls, had several top defenses, and whose players only ever spoke glowingly about him when he was a defensive coordinator.

    Also, as a Vikings fan, I remember wishing the Vikes would fire Childress (even after getting to the NFC Championship with Favre) and promote Mike Tomlin. He was hired away a year early by the Steelers. Tomlin didn’t go into the Steelers interviews as the favorite for the job, but he did blow away the Steelers decision makers and earned the job. That’s a good example of how hires should be made.

  127. stubborndata says:
    May 16, 2020 at 12:38 pm
    And the refrain BEST MAN FOR THE JOB comes out from the simpletons. Take a look around cliff kingsbury for hired as a head coach. If that isnt white privilege I dont know what is
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Well, I guess we can agree on that. You don’t know what is

  128. beachsidejames says:
    May 16, 2020 at 8:00 am
    Proposals like this only make the idea of racism in this country worse on many levels….My hope is the term racism or racist will have no use.
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    Sadly, I don’t think that will happen. There is too much money to be made by the race-baiters who easily convince idiots that racism is there merely because something sub-optimal happens to a minority.

  129. It’s true there are race-baiters but don’t for a second think they only come in one color. One can lose direction to become easily led by those that you describe and it is sad. Its one reason why Mr. Goddell feels the need to do something. I believe he means well just wrong to think this idea is a cure.

  130. The biggest injustice in professional sports is that there is still one segregated team, can you imagine that in year 2020? The Harlem Globetrotters have been around for nearly 100 years, has there NEVER been a white player good enough for them?

  131. The suggestion that billionaire owners will only concern themselves with hiring the ‘best man’ has been proven false. If that were accurate there would already be reasonable balance and there is not.A benefit to presenting an idea is to get people thinking and talking about a real problem. If we don’t come up with another idea then maybe we should go with this one.

  132. Let’s also incentivise drafting white players. Since the majority of players are minorities, we need to level the playing field. We need to give white players opportunities. These are life changing jobs worth millions of dollars.

    Let’s create a rule where, if a team drafts a white WR or CB, they get a free pick a round later.

    Why stop at skin color? How about making sure that people with disabilities have a fair shot as well? What about women players and coaches? Lets make sure every team has a couple of those as well.

    Sound ridiculous? That’s because it is. Just like the enhanced Rooney rule.

  133. What is the definition of a minority? I am sorry, but the whole approach to categorizing humans by skin color is ridiculously stupid. if you are 50% black, are you a minority candidate? If you are 10% black are you a minority candidate? What if you are 41% black, 30% white, 20% Native American with 9% unidentifiable? Who cares? We are all just people.

  134. monropoobah says:
    May 18, 2020 at 4:09 am
    The suggestion that billionaire owners will only concern themselves with hiring the ‘best man’ has been proven false. If that were accurate there would already be reasonable balance and there is not.A benefit to presenting an idea is to get people thinking and talking about a real problem. If we don’t come up with another idea then maybe we should go with this one.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    No it hasn’t. Just because you disagree doesn’t mean it is wrong. What is reasonable balance based on? Skin color does not effect competence any more than height does for coach so if you are looking for balance there you are misguided. You look for minorities and do not find many so to you that somehow equates to racism. There is no actual problem. There is only the perception of a problem being loudly promoted by professional victims, racists and those that believe they are trying to help those that they feel superior to. The notion is they can’t do it themselves so “we” have to help them do it. That mindset shows that the people that think that way view themselves as superior. The whole concept is sickening.

  135. > stubborndata says:
    > May 16, 2020 at 12:38 pm
    > And the refrain BEST MAN FOR THE JOB comes out from the simpletons.
    > Take a look around cliff kingsbury for hired as a head coach. If that
    > isnt white privilege I dont know what is

    I see your Kliff Kingsbury and raise you Hue Jackson.

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