Minneapolis City Council announces intent to disband Minneapolis Police Department

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The world is indeed shifting on its axis.

Thirteen days after the murder of George Floyd on a Minneapolis street by a Minneapolis police officer, the Minneapolis City Council has announced its intention to disband the Minneapolis Police Department.

“Our commitment is to end our city’s toxic relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department, to end policing as we know it, and to re-create systems of public safety that actually keep us safe,” Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender said Sunday, via KARE11.com.

A veto-proof majority plans to vote in favor of the measure, which means that the Minneapolis mayor will not be able to block the move. The city will instead invest in “community-led safety initiatives.”

In recent days, the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis Public Schools, and others decided to end or restrict their relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department.

With the Vikings staging at least 10 games per year in Minneapolis, the end of the Minneapolis Police Department will surely have a dramatic impact on security arrangements in and around the stadium.

208 responses to “Minneapolis City Council announces intent to disband Minneapolis Police Department

  1. Wow!

    Police departments at the very least need to be demilitarized. But places where the departments are rotten to the core they have to try something new because murdering Americans is not what police should be able to get away with

  2. With no law enforcement, there’s no need for government. Violent crime will go up and citizens will be responsible for protecting themselves.

    This all is a catastrophic over reaction to an issue the Minneapolis government failed to solve years ago and continued to look the other way until it blew up in their face. Weird how all of a sudden they have all the answers…

  3. It will be interesting to see how this plays out but I am glad this experiment isn’t being done in an area I frequent.

  4. This is good. Now only the rich people will be afforded with security since they can afford it.

  5. More of the visceral “if it feels good it must be good” line of thinking. Of course, like the $15 minimum wage, it will surely end up hurting the exact people it intends to help. Gun sales will surge. Charles Bronson types will pop up in major cities across the country. Violent (and preventable) incidents – driven by fear, anger, etc. – will skyrocket if people know the police are not there and/or severely depleted. The worst part? Cities employ considerable numbers of minority officers who will now be jeopardized – the exact individuals these communities need to help facilitate dialogue and effect desperately needed change/policing reforms.

  6. Good luck with that…how will you arrest barbershop owners from opening up in violation of stay at home orders?

    Can’t wait to see the mass exodus from that city if they abolish the police. Hope the criminals first stop is the city councilor’s houses.

  7. This is like throwing out ObamaCare without a replacement — you need a replacement, not just angry talk.

  8. This is destined to be a debacle.

    A better way is to immediately kick off any cops with any history of violence. In addition, there needs to be laws against any knees to the neck, and choke-holds, and there also needs to be laws that if a cops sees a fellow officer commit a crime, and does not report it, that if they are caught, and even if they get off, you lose your job…just done, and no union appeal. I actually do feel a little bad for the two cops at the George Floyd murder, who were only on the job for four days. It really was an impossible situation for them, but had there been such laws, it would have given them a clear path to say something even to their training officer. Their behavior is out-of-control.

    Cops are often brutal simply because they can be with impunity, and the “thin blue line”, where fellow officers do not dare say anything, prevents any justice. Even when they are arrested and tried, they simply need to say “I was afraid”, and they use that to justify their actions, and often get not-guilty verdicts. We need to go back to the days where a cop needs to see a gun before he can shoot. Frankly, they say that they should not have to risk their lives when there could be any danger, but when they shoot unarmed people, they may not be in danger, but they just endangered every other cop in the country but sowing the seeds of mistrust. How many cops have been attacked and killed this past week? I really find it hard to feel sorry for them since they brought it upon themselves by shooting first, beating people, and protecting bad cops. They think, incorrectly, that they are protecting their own, but they are really endangering them.

  9. If there’s any group more inept than the Minneapolis Police Department, it’s the Minneapolis City Council. Jeremiah Ellison is a city council member who pledged his support for Antifa, a group contributing to the riots all over the country, whose goal is to get rid of the police. Well, this is an easier way to do it than rioting. Get your members on the city councils and the police are gone.

    We saw what happened in the city when the police stood back and did nothing. 170 businesses looted and burned to the ground. Things only got under control when the police and the National Guard enforced the laws.

    I would love to know what “community-led safety initiatives” are but I won’t bother asking because I’m sure no one has any idea, least of all the city council. At least crime in my suburb will decrease as all the criminals will flock to Minneapolis to prey on the good people who just had to deal with all the riots.

  10. Somebody, ANYbody, please explain “community-led safety initiatives” to me.

    If you’re being robbed and assaulted at gun-point, does Charlie down the block show up and beg the criminals to “Please, stop!”????

    If your house is broken into and burglarized, does Wanda, the next door neighbor who’s a cashier at Piggly Wiggly, dust for fingerprints and investigate the Latin Kings???

  11. dismantle[ dis-man-tl ]

    verb (used with object), dis·man·tled, dis·man·tling.
    to deprive or strip of apparatus, furniture, equipment, defenses, etc.:
    to dismantle a ship; to dismantle a fortress.
    to disassemble or pull down; take apart:
    They dismantled the machine and shipped it in pieces.
    to divest of dress, covering, etc.:
    The wind dismantled the trees of their leaves.

    #tearitdown

  12. Minneapolis rolling out the red carpet for muggers, burglars, rapists and murderers… can’t see this going bad, can you? 🙂

  13. In 10 years, Minneapolis will be so run down and dangerous it will make Detroit from the 2000s look like a paradise. This is the beginning of the downfall of a once great city. Who would want to go to a sporting event in downtown Minneapolis with a bunch of mall cops walking around?

  14. So what happens next? This seems a complete over reaction ..if they do this wrong hundreds more will die and thousands will be hurt . Where are they going to get these safety officials?

    What kind of oversite will there be?

  15. Let the comments of people who didn’t read past the headline begin!!

  16. When some store is getting robbed, who gets the call?

    Oh wait, there aren’t any stores left in Minneapolis…

  17. Wondering how many of the cops(what percentage) who murder and beat up people are ex-military.

  18. “Calling all criminals, calling all criminals. Report to the greater Minnieapolis/St.Paul area. Free reign is given for you to employ your dastardly deeds”.

    “That is all”.

  19. I am not sure why the terms ‘disband’ or ‘defund’ are being used. Personally, I think it doesn’t align with what is being proposed. To be clear, the police department isn’t going to disappear, instead some of the funding the department would normally receive will be diverted to other programs (like maybe to public safety officer programs where there isn’t an emphasis on using force (and as such, won’t carry a gun)). The police department as we know it will likely still be responsible for covering reports of dangerous incidents but for “less” dangerous situations (like reports of a loud party or diverting traffic when construction goes on), will be the responsibility of a new division. Whether you agree with this approach or not, please be clear the police department won’t disappear (at least not entirely). It’ll be re-envisioned for the lack of a better term.

  20. Should be interesting. Who will enforce laws there when the police department no longer exists to do that job? I am glad I don’t live in Minneapolis. If I did live there, I would take what I could carry and leave immediately. That place is going to be a war zone

  21. This is a more complicated issue than most people realize. It may well be that this announcement basically gives MPD a couple of days to present a plan to keep themselves alive. It may that this leads to a community policing model. It likely means the end to the for-profit Bail system in the state, and adoption of a no-cash bail system, or allowing officers to release as well as arrest. It may be that the department will agree to fund its own lawsuits, and pay judgements out of their budget. If officers realize lawsuit=pay cut, that will dramatically influence police behaviour.

    Regardless, it isn’t a stupid idea. It may not work in the end, but it’s something that needs to be tried.

  22. Everybody is talking about the malignant “police culture” which controls many of our police departments. But one matter is not being discussed. The recent examples of police abuse, assault, or murder involving minority individuals or (in Buffalo NY) against a senior citizen are compelling evidence because there are videos being made by the public or by news organizations.

    What is being missed, especially by Trump officials who claim that there is no systemic racism in our law enforcement community, is that the so-called few “bad apples” would NEVER allow themselves to be videotaped IF they had ANY reason to believe that their fellow “good” officers would turn them in. But the Blue Wall of Silence is the prevailing environment in which our police work.

    In addition, our police unions are NOT organized to serve their community. Instead, they see their exclusive function to be to PROTECT their officers—regardless of what crimes they commit or what misbehavior they engage in.

  23. I personally think that this is insane BUT, I havent heard what their alternate plan is yet. In other words, when someone is in the midst of being a victim of a brutal crime, who is going to respond and help? Are they going to now rely on the county or state police? Because honestly, if these citizens arent able to protect themselves then somebody has to be protecting them, and if there are no more local police, then who?

  24. How is this constitutional?…..how do NOT have police THAT IS CRIMINAL!

  25. Wanda, the next door neighbor who works as a cashier at Piggly Wiggly, for city council!!

  26. “disband Minneapolis Police Department” does not mean abandon all forms of public safety or law enforcement. Just like you can still fight a war even after disbanding the cavalry. Or disbanding your unit of archers. There are many ways to skin a cat, and many ways to get collective adherence to a community’s laws and social norms.

    They are just trying to find a new one. Just like capitalism was once a crazy social experiment. And democracy. Don’t be afraid a little experimentation.

  27. I am now going to buy my first firearm. We are going back to the Wild Wild West.

  28. Cops are often brutal simply because they can be with impunity, and the “thin blue line”, where fellow officers do not dare say anything, prevents any justice. Even when they are arrested and tried, they simply need to say “I was afraid”, and they use that to justify their actions, and often get not-guilty verdicts. We need to go back to the days where a cop needs to see a gun before he can shoot. Frankly, they say that they should not have to risk their lives when there could be any danger, but when they shoot unarmed people, they may not be in danger, but they just endangered every other cop in the country but sowing the seeds of mistrust. How many cops have been attacked and killed this past week? I really find it hard to feel sorry for them since they brought it upon themselves by shooting first, beating people, and protecting bad cops. They think, incorrectly, that they are protecting their own, but they are really endangering them.

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    Besides providing a lot of ignorance would you care to provide any references? Other than those in the media who lie, Mis-lead and all that other good stuff.

  29. I love it. I just read John Legend explaining how defund doesnt mean, get rid of. Guess he isnt the one who understands.

    Anywho, with NYBLM chapter President talking about their own “military arm” being advised by former black Spec Ops officers. Do you people see the next evolution coming?

    Good luck yall.

  30. “Where can I bet the over on the number of murders in Minneapolis after this decision? I have inside information on what happens next”
    — The City of Baltimore

  31. They said this at a rally. Actions speak louder than words. I’m curious what they’ll really do when they actually have a real council meeting. Right now this is just talk. They have lots of explaining to do. I’ll listed to their plan to replace the police before I pass judgement.

    I’m surprised the people who claim they want “less government” and that the “government can’t do anything right” aren’t all in on dismantling this huge government agency.

  32. Human nature does not change until the nature of humanity changes.
    This will be a mere horizontal change that does not shift the fundamental emotional intelligence of the community at large.

  33. lemmetalkwouldya says:
    June 7, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    Somebody, ANYbody, please explain “community-led safety initiatives” to me.

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    I think “community-led safety initiatives” will be similiar to the movie Demolition Man. Everything was rosy and peachy within San Angelos until Simon Pheonix began his crime spree. Remember how shocked the police were when MDKs (murder-death-kill) were being tallied up by Simon all across town.

    The “greetings and salutations” crowd at the station and the city council were stunned. I think the Minnie City council has something like this in mind. Not the being “shocked by the violence” part mind you. But the frolicking thru the fields and passing out flowers part with the “greetings and salutations”.

    It won’t work. But what will they care? They probably don’t even live in the city limits.

  34. It sounds like a very big step. But, I am not sure what they will be doing for an alternative, as you cannot have zero law enforcement. I have concerns, but will withhold judgement until we hear what this truly means.

  35. I’m not familiar with MN gun laws at all, but if their as strong as CA, that city is in serious trouble if this happens

  36. Glad I don’t live there. Horrible idea with a predictable, horrible outcome. The only sliver of good news is that when people see this debacle unfold, it might (I am not certain anything will work for some) make them think more realistically about these things.

  37. I do not know about Min. I do know that in AZ the county sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer in that county. THe police departments obtain their police powers from the sheriff of that county. If the city or town etc can not police itself the sheriff can step in and take over at his discretion. Once he does that city or town losses its certification as a city or town etc. It has to move down the list of levels.

  38. So what happens next? This seems a complete over reaction ..if they do this wrong hundreds more will die and thousands will be hurt . Where are they going to get these safety officials?

    What kind of oversite will there be? The experiment begins

  39. Ban the police and confiscate all guns. Should work well. Enjoy the mass exodus of tax paying citizens.

  40. No law enforcer, no need to bother with having any law…

    Wild west cowboy justice… Local community be its own judge, jury and executioner as they see fit…

    So many more deaths would this create… SMH!

  41. Clinton says:
    June 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm
    So what happens next? This seems a complete over reaction ..if they do this wrong hundreds more will die and thousands will be hurt . Where are they going to get these safety officials?

    What kind of oversite will there be
    ___________________________________________
    …what happens next is a vetting process.. weeds and poison that brought MPD to its just fruits die and responsible well trained law enforcement carry on.
    any deviation from forward progress…….burn it down again.

    #win

  42. Clinton says:
    June 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm
    So what happens next? This seems a complete over reaction ..if they do this wrong hundreds more will die and thousands will be hurt . Where are they going to get these safety officials?
    ===============
    What will happen next is instead of one black person being killed by the police, 3000 will be killed by other black people. Which is oddly preferred. At least it was in the comments here last night. You think Chicago has a gun violence problem, Minneapolis just said “hold my beer”

  43. “ The Minneapolis police officer who knelt on George Floyd’s neck had 18 previous complaints against him, police department say“

    They couldn’t fire him because of the police union. No government employee should be allowed to be in a union. It’s like a union against taxpayers.

  44. Clinton says:
    June 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    So what happens next? This seems a complete over reaction ..if they do this wrong hundreds more will die and thousands will be hurt . Where are they going to get these safety officials?

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    These safety officials will wear safety patrol belts w/badges much like elementary school. This department will be stocked with a ready supply of employees freshly released from the Minnie jail system. This way, ex-cons can have a good solid government job with benefits.

    Will it work? Doubtful. That’s why “contract” police force companies will be an outgrowth of this situation. And of course, the bid winners will have to pay off the appropriate ciity council members to get the contract.

    It is all about $$$.

  45. who are the people of Minny gonna call during domestic violence? People driving 100mph on the highways? People being mugged and robbed? Sexual Assaults? they should reform the department from the top and enact some new guidelines, but getting rid of the police dept is insane. Glad i dont live in that once beautiful city. its going to be a nightmare.

  46. The good news is, for those of you who absolutely HATE the police, and think you can do it better, put your money where your mouth is. Go do it better. But you won’t, you’ll be sure to complain about it when it fails though. Complainers are never “do-ers”

  47. These people are hilariously delusional.

    Whatever “comes after” disbanding the police force will end up … a police force. It’s just a fact of human civilization that a monopoly of force is required to enforce laws. Don’t want to run afoul of it? Stop breaking the darn law.

  48. Police departments all over America are costing their cities MILLIONS OF DOLLARS per year because of civil lawsuits. Whether it be for executions or assaults, those millions could be used giving them raises, building news libraries, schools, helping seniors, the homeless, other social programs, and more. And a lot of that money goes to White victims. So, don’t get it twisted!

    For those who opposed this, wait until YOU or YOUR LOVED ONE is on the other end of their billy club or bullet! REGARDLESS of COLOR.

    Imagine this: One rogue cop making $70,000 per year costing the entire department and city $25 million! Since the police won’t police themselves, I’m glad the city council will. At last!

  49. Perhaps all of the convicted felons who were let out of jail due to Covid 19, will now hire on as a cheaper alternative to the Minneapolis Police Force. City Council wants inmates running the asylum.

  50. My goodness! This country is being overrun by a mob of overly emotional idiots. They band together for causes they don’t understand at all. All they seem to know is that they have to be seen doing the “right” thing and other SJW drooling morons decide whatever that thing is supposed to be. Good luck if people keep voting for these idiots

  51. I didn’t see “there will be no enforcement of law” here and haven’t seen such a thing anywhere else. Can one of you guys that clearly knows what their plan is let me know where that is? I’d like to read up on it. Thanks.

  52. If anyone wants a sneak peak at how this will turn out, look at Nikolas Cruz. Between the Obama admin and the cowards of Broward Cruz was able to break rule after rule and never suffer the consequences. In Minneapolis you get a purposeful display of that. A criminal will commit a violent crime, check themselves into a program because they are “broken” and then rinse and repeat.

  53. Wow. Well, what would you expect from a state that would elect a former professional wrestler and failed SNL writing hack to higher offices.
    I guess this is really just par for the course.

  54. Vladimir:

    I know of only one cop that has murdered anybody this year, and to my knowledge he is not ex-military. So that should answer your question. NONE. BTW, that one cop has been charged with murder.

  55. So 1 cop craps his pants and all cops must wear a diaper? They arrested the 4 POS’s that committed this crime. I would suggest they disband the cops union and reexamine all records of the police on the force and expel those that have been covered for by said union. If those that are expelled should have charges against them then file charges. Also review those that have retired and receiving pensions and if the unions covered from them stop the pensions as well

  56. Don’t defund or disband the cops. When you do that the bad guys win…..just come up with a punishment sysytem for cops that misbehave that weeds out the bad apples quickly……not all cops are bad. Not all whites are racist. Not all blacks are criminals, but ignorance comes in all colors.

  57. When the city is on fire and people are getting shot and raped, who will be to blame then.

  58. Private enterprise opportunity! If they don’t do a good job, you hire another outfit!

  59. Viking Fan Blames Officials…..Everybody Drink says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:28 pm
    Wow. Well, what would you expect from a state that would elect a former professional wrestler and failed SNL writing hack to higher offices.
    I guess this is really just par for the course.

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    This is a serious discussion best left to us grownups. Run along now.

  60. This is not unprecedented. In the 19th Century, the Municipal Police of New York were replaced precinct by precinct by the new Metropolitan Police Force due to corruption and abuse of the burgeoning immigrant population of the city.

  61. During the 2009 financial crisis Warren Buffett said ” We need banks. But we din’t need THESE banks.”

    Same situation now in Minneapolis. They need police, but they don’t need THESE police.

    When an institution tepeatedly betrays the public trust and shows itself to be irreparably corrupt, it should be replaced with something fit for purpose.

  62. Make body cameras mandatory on each and every officer out in the field. Anytime an officer does not wear one or “turns it off”, fire them immediately. These camera’s have shown overwhelmingly the police do a great job and they have to deal with low-lifes on a daily basis. You defund and get rid of them? Minneapolis will look like Beruit in 60 days……

  63. So with the City’s announcement, does law enforcement default to the sheriff’s office of Hennepin County? At the very least, the City of Minneapolis should also consider starting from scratch a community-based patrol offering police services. I can see more individuals and business owners purchasing their own firearms to protect person and property. I think the entire country will monitor the consequences of this City Council response to the senseless killing of George Floyd.

  64. Guess what will happen to the crime rate. The schools too? I wonder who they will call when a university student reports a rape?

  65. The Guardian Angels are dusting off their berets and satin jackets as we speak.

  66. I’m so tired of listening to these people talking & getting enraged about cops murdering people but these same people never talk about or get enraged about their fellow brothers killing a 5 yr old sitting on the porch with her father in a drive by or the 77 old retired police office being killed by one of the brothers just because he’s in the way so they can break in a pawn shop to loot it

    I’d like to hear their suggestions of what is a cop suppose to do when a person will not comply with their command as in Please get out of the car ..answer No I have rights !!
    OK well let’s discuss this because I don’t want to offend you by using harsh language or force

    People have got to get past the idea that they have rights that are above the law because they believe it so ..the bottom line is you don’t

    I know this won’t get posted because it doesn’t fit the narrative that the media wants us to believe

  67. Let’s wait to see the solution. I’m sure there will be police but opportunity to clean house and reorganize.

  68. This is what happens when the social media mob mentality takes hold…pure insanity.

  69. The Monopoly board game is changing the get out of jail free card to Take A Vacation to Minneapolis

  70. We are about to witness one of the worst decisions in American history. Minneapolis will be in the news again and again … for all the wrong reasons. There has to be a better way to change the culture there instead of anarchy.

  71. We need to have Elon Musk start the first privately owned police department…

  72. Ivan Pavlov says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:04 pm
    They said this at a rally. Actions speak louder than words. I’m curious what they’ll really do when they actually have a real council meeting. Right now this is just talk. They have lots of explaining to do. I’ll listed to their plan to replace the police before I pass judgement.

    I’m surprised the people who claim they want “less government” and that the “government can’t do anything right” aren’t all in on dismantling this huge government agency.

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    Policing is a LOCAL function, supported by LOCAL voters via taxes on the LOCAL population. A vast majority of Americans support our PDs and their Constitutional functions in keeping Law and Order.

    Conservatives want smaller government, like dumping the Education Dept and returning power back to the LOCAL community. Dumping the IRS is another.

    Maybe understand that those of us who want smaller government, want it efficient and lean. With minimum regulations and restrictions on commerce and liberty. We are happy for the most part, how do I know? Not a single rural or smaller city in Red districts seen their residents riot,burn, loot and kill cops.

  73. Next up. How many cities are going to follow suit. This is absurd and we are basically all screwed. Absolutely out of control.

  74. This is awesome. Now all the virtue signaling Karens will see what the movement really thinks of them.

  75. …next up!

    can’t wait for this cop to be classified to MDOC.

    plenty of knee room in that state issue I hear!

    #justice

  76. It would be better to reform it rather than have it disbanded. Minneapolis is about to turn into Chicago.

  77. Because cops have never been killed responding to house parties, domestic disputes, and traffic stops. Let’s wait and see what happens when the first “community safety officer” is killed in the line of duty.

  78. All those anti gun Libs up in MPLS are going to change their tune quickly watch.

  79. Wow congratulations Minneapolis! Finally politicians willing to stand up to the new mob aka the police. I have been saying this for years, look how well it has worked in Camden NJ! Also, for all you red state headline readers, there will
    still be a police department.

  80. The Purge goes from being a movie to a reality show, airing every night in Minneapolis.

  81. Police are already known from the biggest criminals in this country. Ending them would be good for citizens.

  82. Let the rich white libs who are doing a great job of talking about how bad the cops are go and live in an inner city without cops. I dare them.

  83. exinsidetrader says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:03 pm
    “Where can I bet the over on the number of murders in Minneapolis after this decision? I have inside information on what happens next”
    — The City of Baltimore
    __________________________________________
    what’s the over/under some winger nut job gets an AR and bumpstocks, climbs up on a roof and repeats history?

    -city of LV, state of CO, #sandy hook

  84. Hey guys, wanna take a road trip to Somalia. Only a 12 hour drive for the scenic beauty

    Coming up STAT!

  85. Sad part about this is it will hurt the minority communities and low income areas the most. The very people who want to see the police go away will be those that need them the most. Truly a sad sad day!!!

  86. Careful what you wish for this could swing the pendulum so far it could eventually turn into a police state because crime is so bad.

  87. Hope all the police walk off the job. You want this, you got it. When you call 911 and nobody answers, enjoy the outcome. How stupid !!!

  88. Crime will skyrocket and people will be crying “where are the police to protect us”… good luck with that.

  89. The touchy feely police…crime will get bad…good luck Minneapolis….

  90. Do residents of Minneapolis now get a property tax reduction due to not funding the police?

  91. Be careful what you wish for, lefties. If the Minneapolis PD is not disbanded, hopefully the officers refuse to work at any Vikings games. The message to them is loud and clear.

  92. This won’t be popular but you have to tear down the entire democratic infrastructure. It goes beyond this country. Within this country sports ownership, high level positions in sports and society in general the school systems, political parties have to be completely tore down. These comments are not to encite debate but they are factual.

  93. Let ‘em try it. Real estate in Minneapolis will plummet so bad in the next few months…. watch.

  94. If I was a for real Scandanavian Viking, I’d be on a wooden ship right now, headed for Looter’s Valhalla, Upper Midwest, USA.

  95. snakeman40 says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Make body cameras mandatory on each and every officer out in the field. Anytime an officer does not wear one or “turns it off”, fire them immediately. These camera’s have shown overwhelmingly the police do a great job and they have to deal with low-lifes on a daily basis. You defund and get rid of them? Minneapolis will look like Beruit in 60 days……

    So, do you want to hear an officer go to the restroom? Do you want to hear an officer having a private (and privileged) conversation with his or her spouse? Do you want it to be discoverable when the officer is in your house because of your actions that show you to be the problem? I highly doubt it on all three examples. Especially if your “privacy” will be impacted.

  96. So everyone hires their own personal security? Vigilanty justice? No executive system means no judicial system rendering the legislative system useless. Happy thoughts never stopped a bullet.

  97. First, let me say Mpls is run by a bunch of moronic liberals. Well actually the whole state is. With that being said, if you rid your self of a Police Department all you’re doing is letting the inmates run the asylum.

  98. From what I’ve been reading, the problem is the police union, especially its head, Bob Kroll. Kroll has been a big problem for a long time, but keeps getting re-elected. He has no interest in dealing with entrenched racism in the department and has spoken out against Chauvin’s firing, if you can believe that.

    So I guess the City Council has decided that since it’s clear nothing will change as long as the union is operating, they’re going to blow up the whole thing. It’s not just an expression of anger about the George Floyd killing. I don’t know what their plan is, but it looks like they’re going more for a community policing model.

    In 2013, Camden NJ dissolved its police force and adopted community policing. Crime plummeted. And demonstrations there have been peaceful and have included police participation. So if the Minneapolis City Council is trying to do what Camden did, maybe this could work out. We’ll have to wait and see.

  99. Get rid of police unions!! Do your research. Police unions are a major part of the problem.

  100. What happens is the contract goes to the Minnesota State Police. OR they will employ-expand/create a Sheriff’s Dept and make them ‘Peace Officers’ who abide by a different set of rules.

    Anyway you look at it, the State Police come from all parts of the State and are not even REMOTELY trained in handling the inner city. Not that the Minneapolis PD could either but two wrongs don’t make a right.

    I worked the inner city for 20 years. Most cops are good people. It takes a thick skin, proper training and quite a bit of passion and compassion to survive intact. We all end up with scars.

    To disband is insane. Fire the top Brass and bring in a pro. I could ride in a radio car within any inner city precinct for a month and point out the 5 cops who need to go NOW. Unless the training is so beyond awful then you point the issue up the ladder and things don’t roll uphill very well. Every person here knows which way water flows…

  101. The wife is a Viking’s fan and over the years we’ve made many trips up there to catch games, but if this is what is going to happen then I guess we won’t be traveling there anymore. It always seemed a little safer and cleaner than most big cities, but if they do this, it’ll be a coin flip on the results. Will you get old school drug and crime ridden Detroit ghetto or will you get the gangs, drugs, and violent crime of Oakland CA? Thankfully I live 10 hours south and the smoke from this soon to be crime scene/warzone/dumpster fire will be blowing over in to Wisconsin. Good luck with this dumb idea.

  102. Another group of politicians with a bunch of talk and fancy words but no plan. I don’t think they can but officers going on strike or not reporting for a few days would quickly change this idiotic line of thinking.

  103. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. That city is gonna burn. Gun stores selling already I’m sure. People with the most/biggest guns will have their way. Crazy.

  104. I can’t wait to see this social experiment crash and burn. On the plus side, cheap real estate soon in Minneapolis.

  105. Minneapolis is so far to the left that even Blair Walsh is jealous. I couldn’t help it and I’m a Vikings fan.

  106. Elections have consequences, good luck with this libs!

    Personally, I’ve never been happier to live in gun friendly Texas.

  107. Minneapolis will never see another Super Bowl, or convention, or any major sporting event, or any big business thinking of relocating there…the city has offical become toxic. So sad.

  108. As the great George Carlin said, don’t underestimate stupid people in large numbers.

  109. Every Minneapolis PD Officer should call in sick tomorrow. And the next day. And the next…if you don’t want cops at all, then you’re going to get everything that comes with it.

    Minneapolis will be synonymous with crime and despair. Don’t get me started on the Vikings. Fans are already trying to get out of their tickets.

  110. Since protesting has become more popular these days perhaps all the police dept. personnel should give it a try by calling for a week or two of not showing up for work in protest of this idea. Kind of a trial run to see how you like 1st.

  111. Old Saying,………
    “Be careful what you wish for,…. because it might come true”

  112. If you already thought the police were cold and callous and militarized, wait til you see how privately funded police act

  113. jawonthefloor says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:56 pm
    Next up. How many cities are going to follow suit. This is absurd and we are basically all screwed. Absolutely out of control.
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    My guess is other cities will have a wait and see approach. This is a very extreme measure and not a rational decision. I think cooler heads will eventually prevail. At least i hope they do…..

  114. Wait until you have no police, and the Government demands you to turn in your guns to protect yourself, because I am sure all of the bad guys will just turn their guns in as well. Rome is Falling…….

  115. Sure glad I do not live there. That will not last a year. I would not even come back if was one of those police officers. I would say honey we moving while we can. All insurances companies are about to make some serious money. Wow.

  116. No police, no arrests, no arrests no crime statistics, no crime statistics no objective measurements, no objective measurements no accountability, get ready to be lied to.

  117. Bet this will help the Vikings, twins, wolves and stars draw FA’s to town – “come to play for us, you’ll be rich, famous, but police won’t be able to protect you and your family while you’re hear, please come play here”

  118. I’ve lived in Minneapolis most of my life. The MPD will not be disbanded. The issue is the police union contract is up for re-negotiations, and the city council is applying full leverage on negotiating. So don’t overreact.

  119. The problem with making a knee jerk emotional reaction (which this certainly is) is that you fail to recognize the full span of issues your reaction can and will create.

    You have to look at who is going to handle your capital crime investigations and other high risk situations. A much better approach would be one that phases in the community-led safety initiatives while still utilizing the police force for those issues that warrant an armed response. Otherwise plan for armed militias that may or may not be able to safely handle dangerous situations.

    They should seriously take a look at what the state of Oregon already did and leverage the good and bad to work to make it better over the course of time.

  120. There are areas of the country were this actually works but most are in rural areas with very small populations. There is no local police and the state police respond to every call. The problem with this is that this area is not mature and self sufficient enough to take care of their own problems so you’ll see anarchy while the state and sheriffs try their best.

  121. Disband? LOL what. You need to get rid of bad cops, not all cops. WTH do you expect is going to happen to the city with a bunch of unarmed mall cops playing security.

    They need to defund, demilitiarize, etc. Need to make them less aggressive and hostile. They just need to tone down the police, not get rid of them.

  122. Celsior says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    So with the City’s announcement, does law enforcement default to the sheriff’s office of Hennepin County?

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    The city hasn’t made an announcement and the city council hasn’t acted yet. But, yes I believe the Hennepin County Sheriff would then be responsible for law enforcement. Which might be seen as an improvement on all fronts. But he’d have to hire a lot more manpower, which would likely come from former Minneapolis cops.

    Many Minneapolis City police officers have already quit. I live in Minnesota and my 16 year old has expressed an interest in law enforcement. Would anyone in my position want their kid to work in law enforcement in Minneapolis?

  123. It’s not the fault of police that bad things keep happening. It’s the fault of bad training of police. If anything, the police need more funding to improve training, hire better officers, etc.

  124. The fall of a great empire has begun. The mob will get what they ask for, not what they want. So sad to see.

  125. I wonder if the Vikings will still have cops at their games or if the NFL will “stand” with the city’s decision?

  126. I live in outstate Minnesota and was planning on bringing my 15 year old daughter to US Bank Stadium for a concert in three weeks…stay in a hotel, pay for parking, eat etc….not going to happen, now…thank you Minneapolis

  127. And here we go. Even more evidence that blue and red need a divorce. This will likely go horribly wrong quick enough to dissuade other jurisdictions from adopting same.

    Nevertheless, it’ll be entertaining to hear of how the city descends even deeper into chaos.

  128. Disband the Police Department, and now call City Council and activists with your emergency, but no one answers because they’re home sleeping

  129. No police in a city that has had increasing crime rates means I won’t be spending another dime there. All my Vikings games will really be “home” games now because I will never step foot in that stadium again without the PD.

  130. Is it safe to say that many good police officers who have put their lives on the line are going to lose their jobs,pensions,health insurance,seniority,ability to pay bills and feed their family? If it takes getting rid of everyone and everything, maybe the council has been ignoring the problem for far too long. So just maybe they need to “dismantle” the council as well.

  131. This is a sad day for women in domestic violence situations. Who they gonna call?

  132. Already cancelled my vacation plans in July. Would have been my first time to Minnesota. Already heard the place is not worth going but this settles it.

  133. wow. the Vikings will have to relocate Too bad they just spent all those dollars on a new stadium…

  134. How embarrassing they claim there’s not a good cop on the force !!! Where they gonna get the support money from speeding tickets and red lights to help pay their bills ?? Who they gonna call after a rape or armed robbery ?!
    Just saying

  135. Wow, I knew you Americans weren’t too bright but this is over the top, lol. Good luck with that. If this passes your country is a disgrace to the free thinking world.

  136. One of the most dangerous and crime-ridden US cities is disbanding its police force? You cannot make up this kind of stupidity.

    Good luck with your neighborhood watch groups trying to control the street gangs. The Minneapolis City Council has failed its constituents miserably.

  137. lol at the people in this thread that think no more PD means there’s no laws/rules/regulations and people to enforce them….

  138. Defunding the police in a crime riddled city as about as smart as Defunding all fire departments because they infringe on a Pyromaniacs rights!

  139. This is absolute insanity.

    Restructuring and retraining of LEO’s from top to bottom is absolutely called for nationwide, given the repeated abuses of power/overreactions by cops over the past few years…

    …but complete disbandment in the name of social justice is just…wow…

  140. Other towns have disbanded the police as a way to break a police union that operates with impunity and attacks the people they’re pledged to protect. Law enforcement will likely be coordinated through the sheriff’s department rather than the police union. As a resident of Minneapolis who lives and works less than a mile from Lake Street, this is a good thing. Glad all of you other commenters have all the answers. You haven’t lived with murderers as your “protectors” like we have. If you don’t like what’s happening here, please stay away. You won’t be missed.

  141. If I were a business owner I’d be nervous. Property values will plummet, innocent people will leave and there will be many areas of town where an ambulance will refuse to enter if not escorted by a police during a routine 911 call.. This could be the birth place of a civil war atmosphere.

  142. This may be just grand standing. The city would have to honor any purchase order or supply contract that is presently in place. They could cancel but then would have to pay the fees associated with that. Wouldn’t the city have to honor the police contracts until they expire? Does the city plan on paying cops to not work?

  143. Gotta move up the food chain to really solve the problem. I’m looking at you Jacob Frey and the entire Minneapolis City Council. Throw out Walz too for good measure.

  144. 911 What is your emergency?

    Somebody is breaking into my house!

    We’re sorry, your City Council disbanded your police department so now there is no one to respond to your emergency. We recommend you call your City Councilman or Councilwoman. Goodbye.

  145. The Council is pulling from the Ronald Reagan playbook .. if you can’t reform because of the union, you shut it down and bust the union. Worked for Reagan and could work here too. Good Republican move guys. Takes guts and it looks like you’ve got guts.

  146. Ivan Pavlov says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    I’m surprised the people who claim they want “less government” and that the “government can’t do anything right” aren’t all in on dismantling this huge government agency.
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    People who want less government don’t want anarchy. Police is one of the few legitimate functions of government. Maybe take some funds from those social programs that haven’t worked for 50 years and divert them to the police so they can hire better quality people and have proper training.

  147. That would be like saying that amputation is the best solution for athlete’s foot fungus.

  148. Will they hire private security with night sticks and guns? I’m sure that would end well. Without police, how can you control the crowd?

  149. Some of you people need to look into Camden, New Jersey.

    This has been done before….successfully

  150. Sure lets all comment without having a clue to what your talking about, because overreacting to a headline with no effort to understand the issue is so much funner.
    BTW they’re not disbanding the Police department, do some reading before getting outraged.

  151. If this actually comes about get your popcorn ready, it’ll be a riveting first week.

  152. I get the reporting, and I am not going to take it to task. The 9 members are overspeaking. Defund the police does NOT mean no police. It means reducing funding and devoting more to what is essentially crime reduction and prevention through the communities (it has worked, all over the world). We did the language thing over other things, political things that I refuse to engage on (this is after all, supposed to be a football site), and all it does is divide.

    If we ignored the politicians we would be much much better off. I don’t need a politician to do the right things in my life.

  153. smarterthanmost says:
    June 7, 2020 at 7:01 pm
    I am now going to buy my first firearm. We are going back to the Wild Wild West.
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    Me too. The single most idiotic idea ever.

  154. Knowledge is power. Read up before you comment. Minneapolis, like many other cities are going to defund not disband the police force. The police still will be intact for violent crimes. When you call 911 they ask “what is your emergency”. If its a fire, only the fire department will be sent, if it is a medical issue, only the EMT will be sent. If it is a domestic issue, a social worker will be called and if it is a drunken packer fan, well no one will be called, they will just let them lay in the gutter as they do now.

  155. It would be nice if the entire police force from top to bottom resigned and put this city council on notice.

    Obviously the city council has no idea how dangerous domestic violence cases are. You don’t send out counselors. These are the largest collection of calls where a responding authority is killed. And those responding have means to defend themselves.

  156. Play D games by voting D, get D results. Just don’t act surprised when Minny goes R, cause they’ll have brought it upon themselves.

  157. The idea is that you create a new police department that builds a new culture, new procedures, new trust with the community, etc. The idea is being misunderstood quite a bit.

    That being said, Minneapolis is WAY too big of a city to attempt that in and could cause great harm to public safety during any transition period.

  158. “ The Minneapolis police officer who knelt on George Floyd’s neck had 18 previous complaints against him, police department say“

    They couldn’t fire him because of the police union. No government employee should be allowed to be in a union. It’s like a union against taxpayers.

    I just re pasted the above comment with which I agree 100%. I am also assuming that “Disbanding the Police” is just legal jargon the purpose of which is to legally disconnect from the Police Union. Then they intend to give the department a new name and a better set of rules with real accountability.

  159. …and all this time I thought “The Purge” was just a work of fiction.

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