NASCAR bans confederate flag

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Change is happening.

While not an NFL story, significant reforms made by other sports are relevant to the NFL, because it’s an example of the kind of extreme measures the NFL should also consider. And NASCAR has implemented a very extreme measure on Wednesday by banning the confederate flag.

“The presence of the confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors and our industry,” NASCAR said in a statement. “Bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sport special. The display of the confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties.”

The move will be controversial, but it shouldn’t be. The confederate flag is a symbol both of slavery and the rebellion against the United States launched by those who insisted on preserving it. It’s not a symbol of culture or history or anything other than an inherent hatred of what America stands for and a reminder of an effort to tear the nation apart the killed thousands.

Whether and to what extent NASCAR is willing to take aggressive measures to implement the rule could get interesting if not ugly. But NASCAR is doing the right thing. The confederate flag had no place in America before the murder of George Floyd. Given the overdue awakening that his death has sparked, it’s time for everyone to regard the confederate flag for what it is, and for what it always has been.

62 responses to “NASCAR bans confederate flag

  1. What it only took them 60 years or something to figure this out ? It’s ashame that it took 1 man’s life for changes like this to occur.

  2. That’s leadership! I’m a fan of Bubba Wallace. I’ll look at NASCAR now.

  3. I’m happy they did this, but, good luck enforcing it with the yahoos in the stands.

  4. and in football news…

    I am thrilled that actual change is happening. But the NFL doesn’t even need to do this.

  5. In high school I went to Atlanta on a field trip, a long trip from the Pacific Northwest. I wanted a souvenir and each souvenir booth was loaded with the confederate flag. You didn’t have much of a choice and as a young high school kid I thought it was a flag of rebels, the Dukes of Hazzard (This was 1980’s that I went).

    I regret buying the flag. I told a friend I bought a flag and he told me what it meant to him. He is black. I was ashamed of my ignorance.

    NASCAR doesn’t need the flag. We can have a race without it, wew can have public building wthout it, we should not forget that history but we don’t need it in souviner shops on cups, shirts and hats.

  6. I just became a NASCAR fan. I will replace a fan they may lose and NASCAR and I and everyone in this great country will be better off for it. Finally, after nearly four years, something significant beyond hollow words has actually contributed to making this country great again.

  7. I’ve never understood people who say they love the United States of America in one breathe and then defend flying a flag of a country who tried to secede from it.

  8. Slavery is a stain on The United States of America. It is a stain on the Confederate States of America. Prior to the Civil War, slavery was not “abolished” in the United States of America, during the Civil War it was not abolished in The Confederate States of America OR in The United States of America. After the Confederate States of America were defeated and ALABAMA was “re-admitted” into The United States of America was the 3/4 of the the states threshold met and the 13th Amendment was adopted into the US Constitution.

    Slavery is and was a stain on The United States of America, not just the Confederate States of America.

  9. Taking the Confederate flag out of NASCAR is like BBQ without sauce, or waffles without fried chicken and syrup/s

  10. Personally I don’t care but the currently 1/2 full stands now will be 1/4 full.

  11. i think Nascar has the record for most live spectators at a sports event. I think mainly because of the virus pandemic those records will stand unbroken for a long time, regardless of the rebel flag

  12. Some felt kneeling disrespected the flag, but it has been insisted that the kneelers intend no disrespect. So, the intent of the person doing the action in this case takes precedent and the action is insisted to be acceptable.

    Meanwhile, some felt the flying of Confederate flags to be offensive, but most of the people who fly it do so to display pride in their heritage. Despite this, the intent of the person doing the action has been buried to accommodate the feelings of those offended.

    Beyond the fact that banning these flags is an icky hit against free speech, what we now have is an authorized double standard, both legally and in our broad society. Our free country is taking some big hits in the name of empowering those who have been discriminated against, and that loss of our principles is not good.

  13. Good for them, and it’s about time. Still, I’ll miss seeing the Duke boys run from Rosco P. Coltrane for 500 laps.

  14. Head for the hills. It’s real this time. Burying that racist symbol is a step in the right direction.

    Drive the racists back underground. Make America great by ridding it of ALL racists!

  15. This is the right step, it is way past due, but better late than never.

    It is also risky for NASCAR, given the majority of their fanbase. They might as well have banned corndogs and Budweiser!!!

  16. The Confederate Flag is heritage and history.

    The Heritage of being a racist.
    The History of losing a war that was fought to own slaves.

    Sincerly,
    Proud Americans.

  17. would not even be nascar without the south..its just a history
    thing to most.

  18. Anyone who tries to claim that the Confederate flag is not tied to slavery and racism is just twisting their brain into a pretzel

  19. “It’s ashame that it took 1 man’s life for changes like this to occur.”
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    It took WAY more than 1 life to get to this day. The straw that breaks the camel’s back gets all the attention but the countless ones before that shouldn’t be forgotten.

  20. I don’t like NASCAR, Confederate flags, or banning stuff.
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    How about banning slavery?

  21. Time changes our view of things. History dims as we select those elements we choose to believe and To remember. The Civil War was not about slavery. The Civil War was about the states rights to determine certain things relating to commerce. It was truly a war between two sides Who had different views of how the republic should be governed. The issue became a pawn because freeing the slaves would destroy the southern economy which was largely dependent upon them. It was a strategic wartime decision, based more on gaining a strategic advantage than on anyone’s rights. You notice the emancipation proclamation came during the war, not before. As a point of fact many northern leaders owned slaves. For many years the confederate flag is a symbol of people doing exactly what they did with the country was first formed. Standing up for what they believed in even at great cost. That’s what the flag was. That is why the south continued to display it. They were proud of their resolve and willingness to stand up for their ideals. But as I said time changes things. Today the Civil War was all about slavery. Today the confederate flag is a symbol of oppression, bigotry, and racism. If this is the way these are truly perceived, then The confederate flag has to go. Regardless of what it Once was we can’t embrace symbols of narrow minded hatred. And right or wrong the flag has come to be that.

  22. Good on NASCAR and excellent points made Mike. It’s time for us to stop beating around the bush and come out and say these things without fear of repercussions from those who are uncomfortable with change.

  23. “The Civil War was not about slavery. The Civil War was about the states rights to determine certain things relating to commerce. It was truly a war between two sides Who had different views of how the republic should be governed.”

    Bull. The slavers hid behind that an the racist do now. We know very well it was about keeping slaves and slavery and had little to do with any “states rights” except continuing on with slavery, since, you know, much of the “commerce” the south was engaged in was driven by slave workers and without them a lot of profit would have been lost.

  24. Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past, a reminder of the change that has occurred already, and a call to action that more change is needed? Banning the flag and removing statues is an attempt to erase the past that reminds me of George Orwell’s 1984. As a nation at some point we have to stop getting offended by everything and dealing with it by simply making the offending thing disappear.

  25. Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past, a reminder of the change that has occurred already, and a call to action that more change is needed?
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    So you think we should build statues of John Wilkes Booth, and the 9/11 terrorists, and wave Nazi flags as a reminder of the change that has already occurred?

  26. Snoopy says:
    June 11, 2020 at 1:52 pm
    Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past…
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    They can be, and they will be, in museums.

    Donald Trump’s administration, and his sycophantic followers, are probably exactly what Orwell was pondering in this quote from 1984.

    And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth.

    Fortunately there are still tens of millions of us who have the good sense not to accept the daily lies of Trump, his administration, and his followers, as the truth.

  27. We’re the murder of one Native American away from getting Snyder to abandon the name.

  28. Pretty sure slavery was banned. My GGG Grandfather died defeating it.

  29. If we’re against symbols of the past, especially pertaining to slavery…

    Why do democrats still exist?

  30. Lynard Skynyrd flew the flag just because they wanted people to know where they were from. Merry Clayton a black female soul and gospel artist sang background vocals to Sweet Home Alabama. Harmony baby. Can’t wait for football !!

  31. carloswlassiter says:
    June 11, 2020 at 2:21 pm
    Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past, a reminder of the change that has occurred already, and a call to action that more change is needed?
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    So you think we should build statues of John Wilkes Booth, and the 9/11 terrorists, and wave Nazi flags as a reminder of the change that has already occurred?

    ~~~~~~~

    I’m not talking about building anything I’m talking about destroying stuff already there and trying to pretend it didn’t happen.

  32. Snoopy :
    Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past
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    That okay pay your admission(museum) fee and you can look at your heritage whenever you want to.

  33. ragnarthegreat says:

    June 11, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    Time changes our view of things. History dims as we select those elements we choose to believe and To remember. The Civil War was not about slavery. The Civil War was about the states rights to determine certain things relating to commerce. It was truly a war between two sides Who had different views of how the republic should be governed. The issue became a pawn because freeing the slaves would destroy the southern economy which was largely dependent upon them. It was a strategic wartime decision, based more on gaining a strategic advantage than on anyone’s rights. You notice the emancipation proclamation came during the war, not before. As a point of fact many northern leaders owned slaves. For many years the confederate flag is a symbol of people doing exactly what they did with the country was first formed. Standing up for what they believed in even at great cost. That’s what the flag was. That is why the south continued to display it. They were proud of their resolve and willingness to stand up for their ideals. But as I said time changes things. Today the Civil War was all about slavery. Today the confederate flag is a symbol of oppression, bigotry, and racism. If this is the way these are truly perceived, then The confederate flag has to go. Regardless of what it Once was we can’t embrace symbols of narrow minded hatred. And right or wrong the flag has come to be that.
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    I think you’re partly correct, historically, but from the Confederate’s point of view, I believe it was very much about slavery. That was the “state right” they were paranoid of losing. The strategy from the North’s point of view though, is correct. Lincoln was on record saying he wasn’t going to abolish slavery. That changed when they knew they could weaken the South and pretty much had to, in order to win because there was a real chance they were going to lose. So it became a war issue for the North but I believe the historical record is clear that slavery was THE “state right” issue of the highest importance to the agricultural south.

  34. The amount of misinformation about the civil war being reflected with confidence in this comment section is pretty pathetic to witness. This is not where smart people hang out.

  35. Snoopy says:
    June 11, 2020 at 1:52 pm
    Why can’t the confederate flag as well as statues of confederate generals become a reminder of our country’s past, a reminder of the change that has occurred already, and a call to action that more change is needed? Banning the flag and removing statues is an attempt to erase the past that reminds me of George Orwell’s 1984. As a nation at some point we have to stop getting offended by everything and dealing with it by simply making the offending thing disappear.

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    The “stop being offended by everything” needs to start with people who are offended by the Confederate flag being removed.

    The Confederate flag and statues of Confederate figures can continue to be a symbol of the country’s past, in history books. There’s no reason have that flag flying publicly at this point aside from stubborn refusal to remove it. The Confederacy existed for four years and was a failure. There’s no value in continuing to display the flag of an entity that hasn’t existed in 155 years, especially when that flag symbolizes oppression and hate against a large segment of the population.

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