“OL Masterminds Summit” features few masks, no distancing

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As the NFL and the NFL Players Association haggle over every detail of football in a pandemic, one key question will be whether players can and will do everything they need to do — and not do everything they shouldn’t do — from August through December (or, in the case of 12 playoffs teams, into and possibly through January). There’s plenty of reason to think that this will be a bigger challenge than previously believed.

Case in point: The OL Masterminds Summit in Dallas. Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle has posted videos from the event. This one shows Saints tackle Terron Armstead (with no mask) speaking to a group of offensive lineman who are definitely not standing more than six feet apart. Several aren’t wearing masks, or their masks are pulled down. (That’s the one major design flaw of the mask. For it to properly work. It must actually, you know, cover the mouth and the nose.)

If that one isn’t sufficiently alarming, here’s a video from a hot-wing eating contest at the OL Mastermind Summit, won by Buccaneers center Ryan Jensen. There are well over a dozen large men in the shot, bodies pressed together as two of them furiously consume chicken wings. One man in the background is wearing a mask.

These are the men who inherently have enhanced risk of a serious outcome, given their BMI. And they’re engaging in this behavior in Dallas, one of the current hotbeds of COVID-19.

At a time when football season seems to be hanging in the balance, this group of offensive linemen has just jumped onto the side of the scale that lands on “try again next year.” Thus, as the NFL and NFLPA prepare to continue their negotiations on Monday regarding the various things that need to be done before the season can proceed, the participants should consider asking themselves an important question: Why bother?

73 responses to ““OL Masterminds Summit” features few masks, no distancing

  1. What’s going on in this country? The only reason Europe is on the uptick i because they distanced and wore masks. How did we get here?

  2. You’ve gotta stop judging all of us for not acting as if this thing is imminently life threatening, because for the overwhelming majority of us, it’s not.

    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.

  3. simple- they want to get paid for not playing this year. the players keep going to social functions but are scared of catching it on the field

  4. some people simply can not comprehend that is not about you personally, wearing a mask may well prevent someone else from getting sick and perhaps dying. So many times people have been told, yet they are incapable of comprehension, exactly like the kneeling thing, not sure why i even bother, but we should at least try, or are we just doomed at the hands (and lack of minds) of others?

  5. Hong Kong
    population 7+ million, 7 deaths

    Taiwan
    population 23+ million, 7 deaths

    Vietnam
    population 95+ million, no deaths

    Now look at us.

    We acted too late, too irresponsibly across the board.

    You want children to go back to school next month? It’s too soon. Our Fed Gov knows this, but is hiding this fact.

    Best of luck with the NFL players, it is a dangerous dilemma right now.

  6. chickensalad43 says:
    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.
    ==

    Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.

  7. And the player’s union is arguing for daily testing? Why? So everyone can just do as they please, then act surprised when they test positive?
    I would like to know when Las Vegas gets access to positive antibody tests, so they know who to bet on.

  8. chickensalad43 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm
    You’ve gotta stop judging all of us for not acting as if this thing is imminently life threatening, because for the overwhelming majority of us, it’s not.

    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.

    ————————————————————-

    I’ll trust the science and not you, chicken salad .

  9. Masks are a waste of time. Where are all of the biohazard cans for used masks and gloves if they are so contagious with lethal virus. Think about it…

  10. Woolly Man Mouth says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:20 pm
    chickensalad43 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm
    You’ve gotta stop judging all of us for not acting as if this thing is imminently life threatening, because for the overwhelming majority of us, it’s not.

    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.

    ————————————————————-

    I’ll trust the science and not you, chicken salad

    ———————
    Until you’re dead wrong about it not being life threatening.

  11. I guess this is why the players want daily testing? They want to do things that would increase their risk of getting COVID-19 and want to know ASAP when they have it.

  12. Lol I can definitely appreciate the subtle Seinfeld reference in this article. “The door… MUST BE CLOSED!” 😂

  13. HagemeisterPark says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    Masks are a waste of time. Where are all of the biohazard cans for used masks and gloves if they are so contagious with lethal virus. Think about it…
    ______________________

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s because you don’t generally share your mask with other people, and you wash it periodically, and any virus on the fabric will eventually die.

    I want to see pro sports return ASAP and successfully.
    I want kids to be able to return to school in the fall.
    I want small business owners to be able to keep their doors open.
    I want the economy to recover.

    If that means throwing on a mask when I’m out running errands and can’t maintain at least 6′ and washing my hands frequently, that seems like a very small and easy thing to do for the greater good. You could argue it’s un-American to think otherwise.

  14. nofaceangler says:
    July 11, 2020 at 3:54 pm
    What’s going on in this country? The only reason Europe is on the uptick i because they distanced and wore masks. How did we get here?

    ————————————————

    *Reads this comment

    *Reads the comment directly below it

    Oh yeah. That’s how. As if on cue.

  15. Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.

    And people have the right to go out and not wear one. It goes both ways but some people have a hard time understanding that.

  16. hickensalad43 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm
    You’ve gotta stop judging all of us for not acting as if this thing is imminently life threatening, because for the overwhelming majority of us, it’s not.

    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.

    ————-

    While I generally agree with “don’t be a sheep”, it’s this mindset that clogs up the healthcare system.

    You have to understand that even a large hospital doesn’t have an extra 100 beds sitting around. An uptick of 45 patients that need a bed puts them way over the max… so your average Joe that has a heart attack, car accident, weekend saw accident, hernia, etc are all now at risk. You can’t get a bed. Plus, it’s not like COVID patients can sit around in a room with another patient. It take a great deal from healthcare professionals and planning to accommodate.

    It’s not about deaths now. It’s about you being selfish and using our healthcare system for being careless.

  17. At 70,000 cases/day for 365 days in a row That’s 25M cases. Less than 10% of the US population. Fauci said at least 40% of people are going to get this, so why the heck is everyone freaking out?

  18. clownbaby37 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 5:18 pm sys:

    And people have the right to go out and not wear one. It goes both ways but some people have a hard time understanding that.

    Do you have the right to go out naked? NO!
    Do you have the right to not wear a seatbelt? No
    Do you have the right to smoke in public places? NO!

    There are laws because people were infringing on the health of others or themselves. If you don’t want laws then you are an anarchist.

  19. Mass exposure the quickest way to end this debacle. Babe Ruth played baseball during pandemic, schools open, trains transporting people all over country.
    Spanish Flu was 2 years with wide open society. We can drag this a decade if we keep on current path.

  20. It’s called nature, natural selection! Stop punishing the strong to protect the weak! They don’t do it in nature, we shouldn’t either! We’re all animals and only the strong should survive

  21. Minnesotans already naturally socially distance and because of our winters we know how to pull together when we need to. Wearing the mask isn’t about you, it’s about stopping a global pandemic. The south really has many lessons to learn, the virus numbers are reflecting that.

  22. tripoli18 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 6:03 pm
    Mass exposure the quickest way to end this debacle. Babe Ruth played baseball during pandemic, schools open, trains transporting people all over country.
    Spanish Flu was 2 years with wide open society. We can drag this a decade if we keep on current path.

    ***********************************

    And how many people needlessly died from said FLU because of the lack of precautions?

    Will you volunteer your life and your families life while everyone’s out and about like nothing is happening?

    You’re theory on this doesn’t make rational sense to begin with ?

    You do understand that all disease aren’t created equal?

    You know how the rest of the world eliminated their cases ?

    They self isolated , the sick stayed home or were hospitalized and kept in isolation. This is how Covid stopped being transmitted in those countries,your asinine idea is exactly the opposite of that.

  23. clownbaby37 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 5:18 pm

    Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.

    And people have the right to go out and not wear one. It goes both ways but some people have a hard time understanding that.

    —————-

    Sure. Like drunk driving. You should be able to have the personal choice, right? Except the problem with both of those is it’s not just yourself you’re likely to take out. Where this comparison falls a little flat is far fewer people are killed by drunk drivers than by COVID-19. Yet we all know that drunk driving is a bad thing, that it endangers innocent lives, and that we just shouldn’t do it. People talk about what an imposition this is on our civil liberties. I get it. Masks are uncomfortable. But they save lives, and that’s not even something that is open for debate for anyone dealing in anything other than pure feelings. We mandate shirt and shoes for almost all establishments under health codes. Neither has anywhere near the positive upside of wearing masks during this pandemic. And yet people accept that without blinking and eye. Why? I’m not trying to call anyone names or guilt anyone. But why are people so resistant to doing something that we know helps save lives, flatten the curve, allow businesses to open and/or remain open? I get that people don’t feel personally concerned. But what about the people you spread it if you get? Do you not have children or parents or come into contact with anyone who might be at greater risk that you feel like you are personally? Are there health and lives really less important than making a political statement, or rebelling against governmental control or whatever it is? I get how nobody likes being preached to. But this isn’t just another thing that is PC. This is peoples’ lives, peoples’ loved ones, peoples’ livelihoods, and the economy you’re messing with. Is it really worth all that? I can’t tell another adult what to do. I don’t like being told what to do. But for anyone holding out on wearing a mask, please at least give it a rethink to how it impacts not just you, but everyone around you and the nation as a whole. It sucks. But it’s the right thing to do.

  24. clownbaby37 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 5:18 pm
    Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.

    And people have the right to go out and not wear one. It goes both ways but some people have a hard time understanding that.

    ___________________________________________________________

    Stop making this a “who has what right” thing. Wearing a mask or not wearing a mask is not a rights issue; it’s a common decency and safety issue. By wearing one you drastically reduce the risk of infecting others or getting infected yourself. Wearing a mask could save the lives of at-risk individuals, and still we have a lot of idiots in this country screaming “bUt mUH rIGhtS!” You could potentially kill someone by infecting them and all you have to do is wear a piece of cloth over your nose and mouth to prevent that. Why is this so hard?

  25. The OL Masterminds Summit

    An ironic name considering how they are acting. “Masterminds” indeed.

    SMH

  26. Being told what to do…..while numbers are being fudged…pretty much explains it. Only the far left thinks duct taping your face will change anything.

  27. I ain’t wearing a mask outside when less than 1% of the population is dying from it. The CDC just said recently the cases are likely 10x higher which would about 30 million cases with only 130,000 deaths. It sucks that people die but death is a part of life. The total panic over this is just insane.

  28. The total panic over this is just insane.

    Tell that to the hospital workers that are dying trying to treat so many patients. Tell that to the people that are literally dying in hallways because there aren’t enough ICU beds….or doctors now.

    More people have died from this than in the Vietnam and Korean wars combined and it’s just getting started. We went to war with Afghanistan over 3,000 deaths. We are now over 140,000 deaths. And people just don’t die. It’s usually a long, painful death, suffocating on one’s own fluids.

  29. Sean Smith says:
    July 11, 2020 at 6:54 pm
    I ain’t wearing a mask outside when less than 1% of the population is dying from it. The CDC just said recently the cases are likely 10x higher which would about 30 million cases with only 130,000 deaths. It sucks that people die but death is a part of life. The total panic over this is just insane.

    ——————————

    Hey, man, no one’s talking about a panic. Just collectively coming together as a nation and sacrificing our comfort for a little while so that we can not only save lives, but also hopefully return to relative normalcy much, much sooner than if we don’t. That is what we all want at the end of the day, right?

  30. Funny I know several nurses and doctors directly working with Covid patients. They all say the same thing, this is completely overblown and nowhere as bad as the media makes it out to be.

  31. By week 5 the league will be filled with replacement players and we will still be watching. WE DO WHAT WE’RE TOLD. P. Gabriel.

  32. sky72 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:17 pm
    Hong Kong
    population 7+ million, 7 deaths

    Taiwan
    population 23+ million, 7 deaths

    Vietnam
    population 95+ million, no deaths

    Now look at us.

    We acted too late, too irresponsibly across the board.

    You want children to go back to school next month? It’s too soon. Our Fed Gov knows this, but is hiding this fact.

    Best of luck with the NFL players, it is a dangerous dilemma right now.
    ————————————————
    They also emplaced mandatory quarantines with criminal punishment for those who broke it. Can you imagine everyone that protested the Floyd killing being arrested?

  33. The Sheep mentality on this forum is enough to make somebody want to puke.. WWII vets of whom there are not many left, are LAUGHING at all of you..

  34. The NFL should cancel the season. This season is going to be a disaster. The level of play is going to suffer greatly with players not being prepared, missing games due to Covid. A greater number of injuries. Then you also have the politics with kneeling and BLM. Nobody is going to watch the games. I probably won’t.

  35. thesnakestabler says:
    July 11, 2020 at 7:45 pm
    The Sheep mentality on this forum is enough to make somebody want to puke.. WWII vets of whom there are not many left, are LAUGHING at all of you..
    ___________________

    I didn’t know this was a contest. Are Holocaust survivors laughing too? What about Rodney King?

    Wear a mask and use your brain. I’m sure you can handle at least one of those.

  36. Sean Smith says:
    July 11, 2020 at 7:29 pm
    Funny I know several nurses and doctors directly working with Covid patients. They all say the same thing, this is completely overblown and nowhere as bad as the media makes it out to be.
    __________

    Hey look its Mr. popular, who knows every doctor and nurse from every hospital in America. I guess my grandmother dying and several friends being hospitalized should just be chalked up to “spring flu season”.

  37. But for anyone holding out on wearing a mask, please at least give it a rethink to how it impacts not just you, but everyone around you and the nation as a whole. It sucks. But it’s the right thing to do.
    ___________

    That’s the problem. Certain people are only capable of thinking about themselves and the ones closest to them. If anyone outside that circle gets impacted, that doesn’t concern them in the slightest.

  38. bkinacti0n says:
    July 11, 2020 at 8:10 pm
    Sean Smith says:
    July 11, 2020 at 7:29 pm
    Funny I know several nurses and doctors directly working with Covid patients. They all say the same thing, this is completely overblown and nowhere as bad as the media makes it out to be.
    __________

    Hey look its Mr. popular, who knows every doctor and nurse from every hospital in America. I guess my grandmother dying and several friends being hospitalized should just be chalked up to “spring flu season”

    And what’s the context here. How old was your Gramdmom, how old are your friends, did they have health issues?

  39. Over 3,000,000 cases. Over 135,000 deaths. Every one of those people caught the virus from someone else. Someone who was not social distancing. Someone who was not wearing a mask. Do not cause needless disease and death. Please!

  40. WW2 vets laughing? Their generation has taken a toll from this virus. They aren’t laughing.

    A 30 something year old just passed away after attending a covid is a hoax party. A child gave it to his parents and both parents died. An Iraq vet just died, he didn’t think the virus could harm him.

  41. There are an awful lot of people who are pretty ignorant on this issue because they only listen to their side. Can masks help? Sure, but nowhere near the level to warrant the response of some towards people who are not wearing one. As I was out a couple weeks ago I saw no less than 10 people wearing masks sneeze. You’d think that would be an argument for wearing a mask but the truth is it isn’t. Every single one of them removed their mask to sneeze and then replaced the mask. Only two of them even bothered to cover their sneeze at all. So all the people that didn’t witness these events wander around thinking these people must care about my safety since they are wearing a mask. The reality is quite the opposite. It is more about compliance and a psychological placebo than it is about actual safety. Simple precautions can be taken without a mandate for something that has dubious effectiveness for the purpose of the mandate.

  42. And they call themselves the “Masterminds?” More like Dingbat Summit. Listening to Dr. Chou on Ross Tucker’s pod what they did is exactly what NOT to do. Football plays you hit, tackle, done but the problem is virus load caused by being in close proximity for a period of time as in a conversation, 10-15 minutes or so, and that exposure causes the virus bodies to infiltrate and affect someone else. It’s not a single virus body but the load of multiple bodies you can’t be protected against. Probably why after all the restaurants and bars reopened the positive cases went up.

  43. Just want to keep the hospital numbers down so the average person can still be seen for urgent needs. Deaths are relatively low.

  44. muledickhawkins says:
    July 11, 2020 at 8:07 pm
    My body my choice. Or does that argument only work when it fits the Left?

    7 23 Rate This

    ————

    Umm, you could be harming or killing OTHERS, so it’s not your body, stupid.

    Why are people ao stupid? What happened? Not reading and surfing the web?

  45. “Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.”

    I’ll give you 99 to 1 odds that he’s not a millennial.

  46. If grown professional men want to take a risk it’s their right to do so. I’m glad we will have a season. Are we going to cancel everything forever? You people are insane if you think there will be a vaccine for this any time soon.

  47. dregonspengler says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:18 pm
    chickensalad43 says:
    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.
    ==

    Typical arrogant Millennial thinking — whether you actually are one or not.
    If you don’t want to wear a mask then YOU stay at home and police yourself. The rest of us have a right to go out without being placed at risk by irresponsible people.
    —————————–

    Arrogant stupid thinking is condemning an entire generation of Americans over one guys dumb comment. I’m a millennial and I couldn’t agree more with your sentiment. At this point you are an utter moron if you’re going out without a mask, even if you don’t believe you’re at risk you could still catch it and spread to people in the at risk population. This is killing people of all ages so it’s really playing Russian Roullete with your life. Be smart, wear a mask when you go out and about and keep yourself sanitized people. Covid is out of control inside the United States, you may not care if you get it but your parents or grandparents will.

  48. tripoli18 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 6:03 pm
    Mass exposure the quickest way to end this debacle. Babe Ruth played baseball during pandemic, schools open, trains transporting people all over country.
    Spanish Flu was 2 years with wide open society. We can drag this a decade if we keep on current path.
    ——-
    A conservative estimate of 1918/19 Spanish flu deaths in the US is 675,000. Today our population is more than 3x greater. Is anyone willing to accept more than 2 million deaths in the U.S.? That would be 15-20x the number of deaths so far.

  49. Stupid people do stupid things. This is history folks. Wear a frickin mask. how hard is that?

  50. Almost nobody wears a mask at their home, so if you don’t wear one in public you put the people in your home at risk…if you even care about them….

  51. It’s ok. They’re O-Linemen. They may be closer than 6 feet apart, but only ever in groups of 5 with all of them facing in the same direction

  52. .. I’m a dentist I’ve been wearing a mask for 30 years.. not a big deal… before aids I wore one because I thought patients didn’t need to share the smell of my tuna sandwich I had for lunch ..

  53. The level of stupidity in this thread shows exactly why the US is by far the worst in the world by an insane rate with this virus. Maybe now that your orange master finally put one on in another staged photo op you’ll start wearing them. Not saying you’ll have common sense because there’s no chance of that. But maybe you’ll at least wear a mask.

  54. No shirt. No shoes. Do you fake, outraged, “freedom” shouting looney tunes complain about those rules too?

  55. AMEN!!!!!

    chickensalad43 says:
    July 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm
    You’ve gotta stop judging all of us for not acting as if this thing is imminently life threatening, because for the overwhelming majority of us, it’s not.

    Police yourself and not others. Stay at home if you believe you’re at risk.

  56. Offensive Lineman have the most to worry about. They’re the ones with the metabolic syndrome that could put them at risk of being in the cytokine storm that makes the virus lethal.

  57. muledickhawkins says:
    July 11, 2020 at 8:07 pm
    My body my choice. Or does that argument only work when it fits the Left?
    ———————————————————————————
    The logic fail here is you not wearing a mask is dangerous for people who could possibly be infected by you so actually unfortunately it’s your choice that’s possibly detrimental to our bodies .

  58. There are tons of people in the streets everyday without masks screaming and yelling. Why is that not “alarming”?

  59. shurmanblog says:
    July 12, 2020 at 11:25 am
    muledickhawkins says:
    July 11, 2020 at 8:07 pm
    My body my choice. Or does that argument only work when it fits the Left?
    ———————————————————————————
    The logic fail here is you not wearing a mask is dangerous for people who could possibly be infected by you so actually unfortunately it’s your choice that’s possibly detrimental to our bodies
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Logic fail? That argument comes from the abortion debate. The choice there is literally 100% deadly to other bodies. Seems like the logic fail may be yours.

  60. “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
    ― George Carlin

  61. For what it’s worth, I read all the people attending this even were tested before and then every day during the event.

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