Adam Thielen: To take next step, Vikings need to quit talking about it

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What do the Vikings need to do to finally get to the next step and compete for a championship? Receiver Adam Thielen made a likely inadvertent Fight Club reference when addressing that topic earlier today.

“I think it really comes down to, ‘Quit talking about it,’ right?” Thielen told Bruce Murray and Bruce Gradkowski of SiriusXM NFL Radio on Saturday. “Like, we can talk about in the offseason how great we feel about our team, how great we feel about all the weapons we have and our defense and our defensive scheme, and our offensive scheme, how great all that is. Well, that’s great on paper, but that doesn’t win you games.

“What wins you games is going out there and executing and using your playmakers and making the plays when the ball’s in the air. And that’s what we’ve got to do. We’ve got to go out there and make those plays. You know, again, we did enough to make the playoffs and get to the second round, things like that. Which is great, and that’s a successful season. But at the end of the day that’s not our end goal.

“And so we need to figure out how to make those happen, and go back to work. Take advantage of every rep. Whether it be these walk-throughs we’ve been having because we can’t practice yet. The teams that are taking advantage of those and getting better on a daily basis, those are the teams that are gonna make a run and have a chance when it comes [in] February.”

If all of that sounds overly simplistic, well, that’s because it is. Plenty of teams are doing exactly the same thing the Vikings are doing, with the same final goal in mind. The teams that will have a chance when the calendar says “February” will have something else, something more, something (for at least one season) special.

It can be sheer physical dominance from wire to wire. It can be playmakers who clearly have a higher level of skills than their peers. It can be finding a way to stay the healthiest, especially in a pandemic. It can be rising to the occasion in those handful of moments during a game when victory or defeat is determined. It can be the right break, the right bounce of the ball, the right call (even if the call is wrong) at the right time.

But he’s definitely right about one thing: Teams probably shouldn’t talk about getting to the next level, because that’s definitely not one of the ways to do it. And they definitely shouldn’t talk about how losing in the divisional round of the playoffs in the prior campaign counts as a “successful season.” Although lasting that long in the postseason generally is better than the alternative, one of the ingredients in getting to the top of the mountain surely will be an unrelenting desire to make it there — which necessarily includes having an attitude that anything short of the top of the mountain does not count as success.

We addressed this dynamic as it relates to the Vikings a few weeks ago, on PFT Live. Some Vikings fans hated the take. Others agreed with it. It goes like this: The Vikings seem to be content to be consistently close, in a sport where close simply doesn’t count.

The clearest, simplest evidence to support this view comes from Minnesota’s reaction to being overpowered by the 49ers in the postseason and Green Bay’s. The Vikings have, by all appearances, done their best to tread water from 2019 to 2020. The Packers, in lieu of focusing on making an improvement here or an improvement there that could boost them if/when they face the 49ers in the elimination round again, have taken a step back now in the hopes of taking multiple steps forward in the future.

For 2020, that could mean that the Vikings will have a more successful season than the Packers. But it won’t help either of them get past a 49ers team that seems to be built to dominate for years to come.

That said, there’s only so much that can be done in any one offseason. And it would be interesting to know whether the Vikings would have handed out so many financial rewards (with the exception of Dalvin Cook) if the Saints had found a way to win at home in the wild-card round.

For now, the Vikings seem to indeed be happy to be on the porch, periodically rapping lightly on the door. They have yet to show that they have an overwhelming obsession with kicking the door in.

At least we now know that won’t be talking about kicking the door in, either.

43 responses to “Adam Thielen: To take next step, Vikings need to quit talking about it

  1. Notice that the Vikings are building a back yard bully while the packers continue to get curb stomped come playoff time!

  2. I know a dopey fan base that thinks certain regular season wins made their team’s season successful. In fact they are still celebrating those wins almost a whole season later.

  3. That sounds focused. Far from worrying about journalist reporting comments from ex-teammates like others less focused players.

  4. Zimmer needs to learn how to go for the throat and get more offensive-minded at times, esp in the 2nd half. All too many times he could put teams away and decides to give them more chances by strictly running up the middle. Running up the middle 3/5th of the plays is so archaic, needs to go away yesterday.

  5. Listen, I fully understand what the end result was, but without going back and looking at the box score the Vikings and Niners were will a football game into the 3rd quarter. I really don’t think the Vikings, or many other teams, are that inferior to San Francisco. As always, the issue will be decided on the field.

  6. They aren’t winning anything in our lifetime. Be glad the Wilf’s don’t move the team.

  7. ariani1985 says:
    August 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm
    Notice that the Vikings are building a back yard bully while the packers continue to get curb stomped come playoff time!
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    The Vikings lost both games against the Packers last season. In fact, the Vikings only beat one team during the season that finished above .500… backyard bully, right?

  8. No dog in the hunt but the Vikings are a well run franchise that consistently produces good teams but never a great one. I’m not sure why. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

  9. No dog in the hunt but the Vikings are a well run franchise that consistently produces good teams but never a great one. I’m not sure why. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
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    Very accurate words and as a dog in this hunt I hope the Vikings win the big one sooner than later.

  10. Hey, remember that time Vikings fans thought they were a “team of destiny” and then Nick Foles rolled them? That was great. Good times.

    Hey Vikings, if you want to win you have to have this thing called a quarterback… you had one like 40 years ago. You should try that.

  11. To take the next step, they need to acquire a QB that can get them there. And Kirk Cousins at $30+ million a year isn’t that guy. You can’t pay top dollar for an average QB who plays third fiddle to the running backs and defense and doesn’t dictate the game.

  12. deadinbed says:
    August 15, 2020 at 8:33 pm
    No dog in the hunt
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    do you mean no dog in the fight or that dog won’t hunt?

  13. When September comes around he’d be better off coming back to DL where I can pay him $50 to take my dock and boat lifts out of the lake like he did when he was in high school. He was much more successful back then.

  14. Vikings fans have such a mental thing going. PFT writes an article about the Packers and there are more Vikings fans posting responses than Packers fans. PFT writes an article about the Vikings and Vikings fans post more about the Packers than the Vikings. The one consistent thing is Vikings fans talking trash, strange how one of their best, Thielen, is interviewed and says it’s time to stop talking and start doing.

  15. “What do the Vikings need to do to finally get to the next step and compete for a championship?”

    What? Seriously? Wasn’t Cousins the only guaranteed missing piece 2.5 years ago? What happened?

  16. Vikes fans, step out of our heads for a second. 13-0. Ok now it’s safe to come back in.

  17. Yeah idk, as a Vikings fan I definitely appreciate that the team is in contention more often than not.

    The best team doesn’t always win the superbowl. You got a better chance of getting lucky as a good team than you do of building a juggernaut from scratch.

  18. The Vikings would already have a SuperBowl victory if the Saints had not cheated with an illegal bounty program.

  19. I respect Thielen. He is a very good WR and I think his points are very accurate. I also think it’s funny to see comments from some Vikings fans directed at the Packers, since nowhere in this article were the Packers mentioned.
    Maybe Thielen should have included the Vikings fans in his comments because for several years now they’ve been very critical of other teams before the season even starts while pronouncing their Vikings as Super Bowl Champs.
    The bottom line is, as Thielen said, no one wins anything on paper.

  20. The Vikings couldn’t compete in the trenches with the 49ers in the playoffs. If they can narrow that gap, they can expose the 9ers secondary and also their QB.

  21. Norseman says:
    August 16, 2020 at 9:57 am
    The Vikings couldn’t compete in the trenches with the 49ers in the playoffs. If they can narrow that gap, they can expose the 9ers secondary and also their QB.

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    They couldnt compete in the trenches against the Eagles in 2017. Alarming that leadership hasnt addressed the issue in 3 years…other than drafting project OL and signing Pierce to the DL.

  22. ghjjf says:
    August 16, 2020 at 7:24 am

    The Vikings would already have a SuperBowl victory if the Saints had not cheated with an illegal bounty program.
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    Yeah, that 12 men on the field penalty at the end of the game and subsequent playoff-ending interception by Favre had nothing to do with losing that game. And making it to the Super Bowl does not guarantee you win it.

  23. I just don’t see it this year with all the rookies to develop on defense and no decent offseason or pre season to do so.

  24. Norseman says:
    August 16, 2020 at 9:57 am
    The Vikings couldn’t compete in the trenches with the 49ers in the playoffs. If they can narrow that gap, they can expose the 9ers secondary and also their QB.

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    Losing Everson Griffin wasn’t the way to do that.

  25. If its and butts were candy and nuts they’d have a merry Christmas in Minny. Alas no.

  26. mikeyb says:
    August 16, 2020 at 9:16 am
    I also think it’s funny to see comments from some Vikings fans directed at the Packers, since nowhere in this article were the Packers mentioned.

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    Right? Please tell that to Chris Collinsworth who brings up Rodgers during every Vikings game even though they are not playing the Packers.

  27. I love all these Packer trolls coming out of the wood work. They should probably worry more about their team since it seems that Arod’s days as a Packer will be done sooner than later. I can’t wait to see which AFC team the Packers trade him to in the future. Raiders? Broncos? Colts? Etc.

  28. mikeyb says:
    August 16, 2020 at 9:16 am
    I respect Thielen. He is a very good WR and I think his points are very accurate. I also think it’s funny to see comments from some Vikings fans directed at the Packers, since nowhere in this article were the Packers mentioned.
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    There are multiple posts here by Packers fans saying Vikings fans are talking trash about Packers in this article’s comments. I’ve read every single post so far and literally one post, the very first post, talking trash about the Packers, but SEVERAL of Packer fans talking trash about the Vikings and fans the entire rest of the way. Do you even read what you write? Ridiculously hypocritical.

  29. YouEnjoyMyself says:
    August 17, 2020 at 10:07 am
    Would Viking fans even exist if not for the Packers?

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    Another packer Troll who thinks the NFL wouldn’t even exist without the Packers? Such a pretentious fanbase. The league doesn’t revolve around the Packers but their fans and the media try to work the Packer angle in every write up in the media, every broadcast there has to be a reference to the Green Bay Packers. Yes Collinsworth I’m speaking of you! L-WAR is coming (Life Without Aaron Rodgers) and then it will be like the 70s…Packer will be irrelevant as they were for 20 some years when they didn’t make the play-offs.

  30. danicafallsinlove says:
    August 17, 2020 at 10:54 am
    YouEnjoyMyself says:
    August 17, 2020 at 10:07 am
    Would Viking fans even exist if not for the Packers?

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    Another packer Troll who thinks the NFL wouldn’t even exist without the Packers? Such a pretentious fanbase. The league doesn’t revolve around the Packers but their fans and the media try to work the Packer angle in every write up in the media, every broadcast there has to be a reference to the Green Bay Packers. Yes Collinsworth I’m speaking of you! L-WAR is coming (Life Without Aaron Rodgers) and then it will be like the 70s…Packer will be irrelevant as they were for 20 some years when they didn’t make the play-offs.

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    You purples said the same thing about Favre leaving the Packers. How’d that work out for you?

  31. The Vikings will not be in the NFCCG or SB until two things happen….
    1) The O-line needs to be average. Yes, middle of the NFL, instead of 27th.
    2) Dalvin Cook stays healthy for every game in a season.

    And no, nobody knows if either of those things will happen this season. If not, then the Vikings are either a 1 and done in the playoffs, or 2 and done. More successful than most, but certainly not SB contenders.

  32. stellarperformance says:
    August 15, 2020 at 10:45 pm
    “What do the Vikings need to do to finally get to the next step and compete for a championship?”

    What? Seriously? Wasn’t Cousins the only guaranteed missing piece 2.5 years ago? What happened?
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    If you polled 100 Vikings fans over the past several years, 99 of them would state we need a better O-line. The one that didn’t say that was a Packers fan posing as a Vikings fan. That guy (you) claimed what you just said above.

  33. mikeyb says:
    August 16, 2020 at 9:16 am
    …think it’s funny to see comments from some Vikings fans directed at the Packers, since nowhere in this article were the Packers mentioned.
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    Hey mikey, try reading the entire article and then get back to us…

  34. conormacleod says:
    August 17, 2020 at 11:27 am
    The Vikings will not be in the NFCCG or SB until two things happen….
    1) The O-line needs to be average. Yes, middle of the NFL, instead of 27th.
    2) Dalvin Cook stays healthy for every game in a season.

    And no, nobody knows if either of those things will happen this season. If not, then the Vikings are either a 1 and done in the playoffs, or 2 and done. More successful than most, but certainly not SB contenders.

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    That’s what a reasoned, well thought out comment looks like. That said, I think all the turnover in the defensive backfield accounts for another pretty big variable. They’re set at Safety but there are a lot of questions at corner.

  35. I am not a fan of any of the teams in the division, but it is clear from reading the posts on this message board that the Vikings’ fans have a “little brother” complex to Packers’ fans

  36. March 14, 2018, USA Today. “Kirk Cousins is the missing piece for Vikings’ Super Bowl puzzle.”

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