What will Patriots offense look like with Cam Newton? Look to Tim Tebow in Denver

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With Tom Brady out and Cam Newton in, the Patriots will be using a much different offense in 2020, because they have a much different quarterback. For now, no one knows what the offense will look like.

A potentially significant clue comes from a decade ago, when Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, then the head coach of the Broncos, traded back into round one to make Tim Tebow a first-round draft pick.

As one source with knowledge of the situation has explained it to PFT, McDaniels developed a specific system in Denver for Tebow. It makes it hard to defend quarterback runs and it opens up the passing game. Also, with proper blocking, the quarterback isn’t put in harm’s way. As the source put it, that could make Cam “scary” in New England.

McDaniels never got to use the offense he designed for Tebow; McDaniels was fired before Tebow became the starter. But the Broncos used it in 2011, and Tebow took the Broncos to the final eight.

Clearly, Cam Newton is a much better quarterback, in all respects, than Tebow. So if that offense worked with Tebow running it and without the man who designed the offense coaching it, what will it do in New England?

The Dolphins (the first victims of Tebowmania in 2011) and the rest of us are about to find out.

53 responses to “What will Patriots offense look like with Cam Newton? Look to Tim Tebow in Denver

  1. I think Cam could regain his old form, for sure – especially if he stays healthy.

    The biggest issue is that he has almost no one to throw to up there. It’s why Brady wasn’t happy – and the WR corps has gotten even worse since last season.

    There best wideout is an aging Edelman, who excelled because of his chemistry w/ TB. That Patriots offense is going to struggle mightily. For the 1st time since the ’90’s, they do not worry me, a bit.

  2. billsrthefuture says:
    September 12, 2020 at 11:25 am
    I think Cam could regain his old form, for sure – especially if he stays healthy.

    The biggest issue is that he has almost no one to throw to up there. It’s why Brady wasn’t happy – and the WR corps has gotten even worse since last season.

    There best wideout is an aging Edelman, who excelled because of his chemistry w/ TB. That Patriots offense is going to struggle mightily. For the 1st time since the ’90’s, they do not worry me, a bit.

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    This is the beautiful part of being a Pats fan, especially this part of the season. The delusion tied to outright disrespect of Bill Belichick, the rest of the staff, all the other players and components of the sport totally ignored, by some piddly rival division fan from Buffalo.

    Every year there is some kind of bogus rhetoric that gets regurgitated.

    Five reasons why you are wrong about NE’s offense:

    1. Brady attifude and predictable offense is now gone.
    2. Center David Andrews.
    3. An even more loaded RB group than last year. See Damien Harris and UDFA JJ Taylor.
    4. Better TE production from a QB who will actually want to use a TE.
    5. Young WRs who have 1 year of experience and who will benefit from a less complex offense and a qb who will actually throw to them as he is supposed to do.

    Enjoy being wrong again, as this will just be a different way you are wrong in your delusion, hoping your qb doesn’t throw 20 tds and have 19 turnovers again. Yep. You shouldn’t be worried about anything.

    lmao

  3. “NE fans will be way to busy watching the Bucs this year than to care about Newton.”

    Never liked Newton as a Panther and was not thrilled the Pats picked him up, but it doesn’t mean I won’t watch the team. Maybe the Pats will be good this year maybe not, such is how things work. As long as they provide a decent level of entertainment that’s what matters.

    I’ll watch the Bucs too for that matter and why not? Brady and Gronk gave us a lot of great moments as Pats fans and are a lot of fun to watch. I hope the best for those guys except if they’re playing against New England

  4. Is Cam considered the best QB starting in the AFC East? He might be but WR corp is a huge factor of course. Just have to see what Josh has up his sleeves to try and get to 10+ wins. Patriots have a tough schedule, but it is possible they could win division, but it will be tough. Bill, Dolphins, Jets – unknown factors as well, but no doubt an opportunity for one of them to claim the division.

    I will be interested in seeing what the old timers have left – Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Ben R,, Rivers.

  5. New England’s opponent tomorrow is a lot more compelling and relevant to the future of the NFL than the Patriots.

  6. On paper yeah the Pats’ WR group looks thin, but you can’t discount the way Brady treated the young guys. He had them walking on eggshells. One mistake in practice and he’d move right past them. That’s no way for a young player to learn how to trust himself and play fast and free. Too much thinking

  7. Fans of other teams can believe what they want, HOWEVER, burying your head in the sand & wishing it to be true unfortunately does not make it so…..try to enjoy the season, I KNOW I WILL!!!
    WASH RINSE REPEAT…. Pats win AGAIN!!!!

  8. That’s exactly what Cam needs….more hits to the head running the ball. He won’t make it to October with that game plan.

  9. One Bills fan’s opinion doesn’t represent all of us. I don’t care if Josh Rosen is the quarterback and his no. 1 receiver is Devin Funchess; I will always fear a Bill Belichick coached team

  10. Tebow was thrown in without any experience, so they did what they thought they had to do, and in fact, they were very successful. But I wouldn’t put any stock in them copying what happened in Denver. McDaniels has ten more years of experience, and Cam Newton has many years of experience playing against NFL defenses. Cam Newton led Carolina to a super bowl the year they had the #1 defense, and New England is coming off a season where they had the league’s best defense. So if I were trying to prepare for a Cam Newton led team that’s also sporting a top defense, I’d look to his MVP season in Carolina. But I definitely wouldn’t be banking on the assumption that I have it all figured out. Also, if Cam is being looked upon as the long term answer in New England, they’re not going to use him as a battering ram.

  11. I was just going to post how P6 will come in here and tell us about all the future hall of famers that are UDFA but I was beat.

  12. To be fair Tebow has never played as bad as Newton did in the past year and a half. Newton will probably be OK if he’s fully healthy, we’ll find out if that ship has already sailed

  13. “hellooooooooooobrooklyn says:
    September 12, 2020 at 12:21 pm
    One Bills fan’s opinion doesn’t represent all of us. I don’t care if Josh Rosen is the quarterback and his no. 1 receiver is Devin Funchess; I will always fear a Bill Belichick coached team”

    I was actually saying that their offense doesn’t scare me for the 1st time in 20 years, but re-reading it, it didn’t come out that way.

    BB is awesome & of course will keep the Pats competitive. I think he could coach any roster in the league to a respectable record.

    But there is a difference between that and genuinely fearing an opponent. I have literally lost count of the # of times Brady has pulled a win out of nowhere – basically willing it on his own. BB is great at gameplanning, but he needs a guy like Brady for those heart-stopping 4th quarter heroics.

    I’m stoked for the season. It’s long overdue to flip the script in the AFC East. I’m excited about the division developing real rivalries again and going down to the final stretch to decide the division winner, instead of it being a foregone conclusion every year.

  14. Tim Tebow has the highest Post-Season QB Rating for the Broncos in the post-Elway era, including journeymen Gus Frerotte and Peyton Manning and even more than the mighty Jake Plummer!

  15. I’ll be happy with 9-7 with that schedule. It’ll be fun to watch Newton and all the young players. Collectively, they have the worst skill players in the NFL, and it’s not even close for 2nd. The LBacker corps is not far behind.

  16. Pat’s season will hinge on N’Keal Harry. Period. If this kid can make a 2nd year leap and gel with Cam then they can do some damage.

    Brady never gave Harry a chance and I think that helped convince BB it was time for a change.

  17. Clearly, Cam Newton is a much better quarterback, in all respects, than Tebow.

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    LOL!! Yeah, no, no he isn’t. In ANY respects. He sure can bling bling better than Tebow, that’s about it.

  18. Cam is a much more accomplished QB than Tebow ever was.
    Cam has declined, but Belichick hasn’t, so I expect an interesting season.
    The Bills have a good defense, but Josh Allen needs to greatly improve.
    The Dolphins and Jets aren’t doing anything this year.

  19. murraysons says:
    September 12, 2020 at 12:03 pm
    On paper yeah the Pats’ WR group looks thin, but you can’t discount the way Brady treated the young guys. He had them walking on eggshells. One mistake in practice and he’d move right past them. That’s no way for a young player to learn how to trust himself and play fast and free. Too much thinking

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    Yes, thank you. Good to see an honest and knowledgeable Pats fan here.

  20. As long as Cam doesn’t throw passes to Gatoraid buckets rather than receivers like Tebow did they will be fine.

  21. “Tim Tebow has the highest Post-Season QB Rating for the Broncos in the post-Elway era, including journeymen Gus Frerotte and Peyton Manning and even more than the mighty Jake Plummer!”

    Only in bizarro world. Tebow had horrible QBRs.

  22. It might not be a scary group in the WR room, but it’s definitely possible that Cam gets more out of them this year than Brady did last year.

    After all he did for the Patriots you can’t be too critical of the way he skipped all the voluntary stuff his last couple of seasons. But it definitely showed on the field. Brady holds his WRs to a high standard and expects things done “his way.” That’s fine… but how can you expect to be on the same page with Harry, Myers, etc., when you weren’t there in OTAs the way you were for Branch, Brown, Welker, Edelman, etc., etc., etc? We sure did see a lot of throw-aways and check-downs to Edelman (and even Ben Watson at the end of it) rather than taking shots at guys he never got himself acclimated to.

    I don’t see that happening to the same extent with Cam. Hopefully he’ll give these guys a chance and they’ll take advantage of it.

  23. Clearly, Cam Newton is a much better quarterback, in all respects, than Tebow.

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    LOL!! Yeah, no, no he isn’t. In ANY respects. He sure can bling bling better than Tebow, that’s about it.

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    Name one thing Tebow did better than Cam does.

  24. Tebow time was probably the most exciting 9 game stretch for a team that I recall. The guy was terrible for 55 minutes and then brilliant for 5. I still would have liked to see a coach go all in on him. Cam is better in pretty much every metric and I’m interested to see how he responds to Belichick and McDaniels. I’m not predicting it, but I won’t be surprised to see Newton play at top 10 or even top 5 qb levels. He’s shown that he can.

  25. but it is possible they could win division, but it will be tough. Bill, Dolphins, Jets – unknown factors as well, but no doubt an opportunity for one of them to claim the division.

    I will be interested in seeing what the old timers have left – Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Ben R,, Rivers.

    ??????????????????

    Bills an unknown factor? They made the playoffs last years and they’ve upgraded both their offense and defense.

    B

  26. cancerman2020 says:

    Name one thing Tebow did better than Cam does.
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    Call his own number, Tebow right, Tebow left, Tebow up the middle! LOL

    OH and throw left handed!

    Tebow was a bust plain and simple and once D’s caught on to his limited knowledge of the playbook they stopped him almost everytime!

    OH and anyone that wants to talk about that playoff win against the Steelers, well that was all Thomas, while it’s listed as an 80yd throw we all know it was a 12yd Tebow throw and 68yds of Thomas burning his man, not much to do with Tebow other than a short 36ft throw my mom could have made!

  27. Haha NE, your legacy/dynasty is already in the rear-view mirror and you all still think the heroe’s highway stretches out for miles ahead of you! IT’S OVER STARTING NOW, BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! Better stock up on kleenex – there’s gonna be a lot of tears and snotty faces from here on out. Bills gonna take the division this year. Betta go jump in tha habah!

  28. murraysons says:
    September 12, 2020 at 12:03 pm
    On paper yeah the Pats’ WR group looks thin, but you can’t discount the way Brady treated the young guys. He had them walking on eggshells. One mistake in practice and he’d move right past them. That’s no way for a young player to learn how to trust himself and play fast and free. Too much thinking

    Sorry coach did not read any of your practice evaluations the past years. So yea you can discount everything on the pats.. Unless your a dye in the wool pats fan I doubt one could name three receivers over the last 20 years on NE not named Edalman, Amendola, or Moss. Yea I will sneak a peek to see how the new QB does but I don’t expect anything better that what the last 20 years gave you fans

  29. The very name Timothy Richard Tebow triggers many of you! Think of how fired up patriotic nationalists and marxists would be for a Tebow-started football game! You’d be walking on air for days if your team defeated the Lord’s Qb.

  30. billsrthefuture says:
    September 12, 2020 at 11:25 am
    I think Cam could regain his old form, for sure – especially if he stays healthy.

    The biggest issue is that he has almost no one to throw to up there. It’s why Brady wasn’t happy – and the WR corps has gotten even worse since last season.

    There best wideout is an aging Edelman, who excelled because of his chemistry w/ TB. That Patriots offense is going to struggle mightily. For the 1st time since the ’90’s, they do not worry me, a bit.

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    Lol, you thought Stephon Gilmore wasn’t any good either. You should be scared.

  31. jarbag says:
    September 12, 2020 at 5:45 pm
    Haha NE, your legacy/dynasty is already in the rear-view mirror and you all still think the heroe’s highway stretches out for miles ahead of you! IT’S OVER STARTING NOW, BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! Better stock up on kleenex – there’s gonna be a lot of tears and snotty faces from here on out. Bills gonna take the division this year. Betta go jump in tha habah!
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    Another Bills fan declares victory without having won anything. THIS is the problem. Win. THEN talk snot. You have won nothing worth noting yet.

  32. “The Dolphins and Jets aren’t doing anything this year”

    I’ll agree on the Jets but not the Fins. Miami’s roster is better than last year and Flores is a very good coach. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were in the mix for a wild card, also wouldn’t surprise me if they weren’t. That’s why the games are actually played

  33. jarbag says:
    September 12, 2020 at 5:45 pm
    Bills gonna take the division this year. Betta go jump in tha habah!

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    Another year of the Bills hoping for a Wild Card spot? Fingers crossed!! What’s this 25 years running?

  34. covidiots says:

    September 12, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    “The Dolphins and Jets aren’t doing anything this year”

    I’ll agree on the Jets but not the Fins. Miami’s roster is better than last year and Flores is a very good coach. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were in the mix for a wild card, also wouldn’t surprise me if they weren’t. That’s why the games are actually played
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    So what you just said is you have no opinion really on what the dolphins will do but just wanted to be contradictory to someone’s post? Just want to make sure I’m following you as you live up to your name.

  35. Sorry. But while Newton is mobile he can NOT run like Tebow did nor is he as strong or durable.
    So in That respect (your Anti-Christian sentiments not withstanding) Tebow was better than Cam IN THAT regard anyway..

  36. The biggest problem is the other QBs on the Pats roster will be terrible in this hybrid offense if Cam goes down.

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