Derek Carr: We have to win some games or it’s not a rivalry with the Chiefs

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The Chiefs and Raiders have had a rivalry for as long as they’ve existed, having been in the same division every season since 1960. But lately, it hasn’t been much of a rivalry.

The Chiefs have won five in a row against the Raiders, and Derek Carr is 2-10 as the Raiders’ starting quarterback against the Chiefs. Carr acknowledged today that until the Raiders start winning some games against the Chiefs, it’s hard to call it a rivalry.

“If we’re being honest, to make it a rivalry, we have to win some games,” Carr said, via Adam Hill of the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Few think the Raiders will win on Sunday, when they’re 13-point underdogs at Kansas City.

38 responses to “Derek Carr: We have to win some games or it’s not a rivalry with the Chiefs

  1. But if someone else were to say that, he’d say he’s tired of being disrespected. . . .

  2. From a lifetime RAIDERS fan, if what he says is true it won’t become a rivalry again after this Sunday.

  3. The more Carr talks, the more I dislike him. Go back to not talking and then maybe you’ll get back to the playoffs.

  4. For sure. The Chiefs dominate the Raiders. Let’s rack up our series advantage while we have the better team. Things could change – in 20 years.

  5. The raiders have defeated the Chiefs twice since 2012.

    The Chiefs rivals are the Ravens, Steelers, and Patriots.

  6. The Chiefs and Raiders had a massive rivalry some 60 years ago. That pretty much fizzled over the decades as the Raiders are largely irrelevant today. Major props to Carr for recognizing this and being honest.

  7. Apparently Carr didn’t get the memo that it’s supposed to be a rivalry. Honestly, Broncos vs. Chiefs has historically been a better rivalry.

  8. You don’t say.

    As far as I can see, the Raiders are not serious rivals to any of the top six teams in the AFC. Start backing up all your talking with better playing, and maybe people will start taking you more seriously.

  9. It won’t be long! And greatest organization in all of sports will overtake KC and let see how many phantom penalty’s go against the Raiders Sunday!

  10. As a born Chiefs fan from Kansas, there will always be a rivalry and has been since the inception. I can remember some years when we were awful and they got us good twice a year. At the moment, we’re the better team, but division games can be funny. I’m not penciling in a W just yet.

  11. It’s a QB league bro. Step up. You’re leaving too may game winning plays out on the field every week.

  12. Hey remember the last game the Raiders played the Chiefs.
    The Chiefs had ZERO penalties while the Raiders were flagged 12 times.
    It must be nice to have a OL that can hold without getting flagged.

  13. I remember as a kid in the late 80s and early 90s watching Kansas City get destroyed by the Raiders , things evened out a bit mid to late 90s then in the early 2000s the Raiders for a time dominated the AFC then it went to pot when the Raiders essentially traded Gruden to the Buccaneers…

    Long story short – I suffered through some terrible Chiefs teams and finally to watch them among the cream of the crop in the NFL is still surreal sometimes . I don’t mind the one sided rivalry with the Raiders because for years we were witness to some horrible Chiefs teams , horrible draft picks and horrible quarterbacks .

    Go Kansas City!!!!

  14. He is right about that. As a Chiefs fan I’m really happy that D Carr is the Raiders QB

  15. @ deadinbed First off the Chiefs are much much better that the Raiders and have been for awhile. Having said that, Remember that even with Chiefs recent domination, before this the domination was the other way around. 67–53–2 Raiders. You’ll have to sweep for the next 7 years to make it a split. Not saying that can’t happen. Just saying the shoe’s been on the other foot. If I remember right the Chiefs were in the same division as the Raiders all four times the Raiders went to the SB right. Injuries are a part of the game, go out there and break a leg.

  16. Carr thinks winning some games means rivalry. He’s even more delusional than your average Bears fan. At the same time Chiefs think the season is a failure if they don’t at minimum reach the SB and probably don’t even recognize Raiders as a rival, more like two comfortable w’s.

  17. Daryl Lamonica, Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett would like to have a word with you, Derek.

  18. maxamili says:
    October 7, 2020 at 7:58 pm

    Carr thinks he’s a better qb then he really is.


    his 3 pro bowls, 3rd in MVP voting in 2016 and stats say other wise

  19. chief4ever says:
    October 7, 2020 at 6:29 pm
    To us old timers, dating back to the late 60’s, it always has been and always will be a rivalry.


    I certainly get that. As a Packer since the 60s, the Chicago Bears are our rival. There have been times the Packers couldn’t buy a win and we were still the Bears’ rival. Of late, the Packers have had the upper hand a little bit but the Bears are still and will always be our rival. It can get a bit heated during game week but there’s still a current of mutual respect that runs underneath it.

    Some people today think rivalries are built on insults. I even had one tell me, if we reply to their insults or correct any wild claims, that makes their team our rival. Nope. Chicago Bears. It’s been the Packers and the Bears for a hundred years and it’ll be the Bears and the Packers for a hundred more.

  20. Carr is an avg QB, at best, and always will be. Pro Bowls mean dink when about 5 Qbs ahead of you give up their spot due to injuries or the playoffs. The Raiders made their bed w/ his ridiculous contract they gave him, and now have to lie in it. He is the Andy Dalton of the West.

  21. Chiefs are an elite team. Raiders… Bottom dwellers. Like comparing a Mercedes to a Kia.

  22. The Chiefs had ZERO penalties while the Raiders were flagged 12 times.
    It must be nice to have a OL that can hold without getting flagged.


    What’s really nice is having players that can actually play without committing penalties.

  23. Raiders have a good offense – and have a shot if they sustain long drives…control the LOS

  24. The Raiders won’t be competitive against the Chiefs for as long as Gruden is with the team.

  25. Marty made it a point that two weeks in the season were “raider week” and fed his defense nothing but piss and vinegar for seven straight days leading up to it. Someone needs to spark that kind of attitude about it an maybe it’ll be like it was then.

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