DeAndre Hopkins: Receivers’ stats should credit us for pass interference yards

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Officially, Cardinals receiver DeAndre Hopkins had his least productive game of the season on Sunday, catching three passes for 30 yards. But that doesn’t tell the whole story: Dolphins cornerback Xavien Howard was flagged for four pass interference penalties while covering Hopkins.

Hopkins would like the numbers to reflect his production. Hopkins said today that receivers’ official stats should reflect the fact that a pass interference penalty can be just as helpful to an offense as a completed pass.

“As long as the ball moves, that’s all I care about. But I do think the rules should change and receivers should get the counted yards for penalties,” Hopkins said.

Hopkins raises a good point. Statistics should reflect, as best they can, a player’s overall contribution to his team. If the stats don’t include a player’s ability to draw penalties, they don’t tell the whole story.

94 responses to “DeAndre Hopkins: Receivers’ stats should credit us for pass interference yards

  1. Weve all seen the commercials that overanalyze each play down to percentage chances to complete the catch. Take whatever those odds are for the play in question and apply them (a 50 yd penalty with a 50% catch probability would add 25 yards to their stats)
    I don’t think it should apply to fantasy numbers though, but theres valid points to both sides of that one

  2. It’s somewhat reasonable, as it advances the ball as much as a catch and run. I get it. However – there better not, in this lifetime or any – stack rank receivers’ statistics with the Jerry Rices of the world who didn’t get freebie yards credited to him, as you can’t retroactively change their numbers to reflect penalties. It would be extremely difficult to delineate the greatest receivers ever because numbers would be horribly skewed. Jerry Rice would get you 10 catches for 200 yards back when it was legal to get handsy with receivers ok. Now in a passing league where receivers have every advantage in the world, they want some extra credit yards.

  3. Obviously it’s a ridiculous comment. As others have said, quarterbacks don’t get stat credit for drawing defenses offside with hard counts. DBs should get credit for OPIs when the receiver interferes with their ability to intercept a ball. How about d-linemen who draw holding calls that negate their ability for sacks or tackles for loss? Why do a running back’s stats not seperate yards before contact versus yards after contact, as one is more of a credit to the blockers and the other a credit to the RB.

    There are a number of scenarios, where a player’s ability isn’t reflected on the stat sheet. This is merely one of those.

  4. ““As long as the ball moves, that’s all I care about.”

    Apparently not DeAndre. Be happy where you are and just go out there to win.

    This sets a bad precedent, you will have random dudes leading in yards because they can draw penalties, WRs are going to start doing that to pad stats.

  5. Doesn’t matter if the offense benefits or not. Unless the receiver actually catches the ball there is no guarantee he would’ve caught it when interfered with. I actually see his point, but it’s nonsense.

  6. Absolutely not. DPI doesn’t guarantee that the ball was going to be caught anyway. I know DeAndre is good, but not every receiver catches every ball that’s throw his way. Plus many DPIs get called on balls that aren’t really catchable or worse on these BS underthrown passes where the receiver intentionally tries to come through the DB and gets the DPI called for it. Hard pass.

  7. So should offsides penalties count as a 5 yard rush for the opposing RB? This is ridiculous. There is a separate category for penalty yards. Stupid idea.

  8. YouEnjoyMyself says:
    November 13, 2020 at 2:57 pm
    Receivers should also take stats for drops and tips that wind up as interceptions.

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    Exactly. Gotta work both ways.

  9. Ridiculous! WR’s have been gifted so many opportunities as it is with the ever changing rules to increase scoring and “player safety”.

  10. It wasn’t caught, so…its not a “catch”. that why its a penalty. But I’m Ok with padding the stats as long as it doesn’t count for performance-based compensation.

  11. The one “out” I would give Hopkins is if he was saying this tongue-in-cheek. I very much doubt it though.

  12. Maybe a stat for drawn penalties. But then also OPI penalties, which Hopkins gets away with quite a bit.

  13. What a joke! And if a DE gets a holding penalty against him he should get a shack? Play the game to help your team win and stop whining about personal stats!

  14. It’s confounding that pass interference is still a spot foul and not a max 15 yard penalty in 2020. The most broken rule in sports.

  15. He’s welcome to count it that way in his head. Stats are what they are. Nobody who actually understands football would suggest that Hopkins isn’t good anymore because he didn’t have as many catches/yards.

  16. So then a holding penalty on a pass play should count as a sack? Who gets the sack, they guy being held?

    He doesn’t have a point at all. It’s a stupid idea and he should lose yards for proposing it

  17. This is all about you hitting your incentives take it up with your GM. There is no reason to change the rules.

  18. Next thing he’s going to tell us is that receivers should be awarded yards for their routes even if the ball isn’t thrown their way… Thanks for playing

  19. Drawing fouls is a skill in basketball AND football. He’s right. Give them the yards. But also do start counting drops and poorly run routes, too, please.

  20. Not surprised this selfish dude wants to make sure he gets his! The 2020 Professional Athlete, it’s Always about them!

  21. If anything another category should be used, penalty yards and give them those but not a catch or receiving yards.

  22. How about when you push off and it isn’t called? Or when you get a phantom PI call ??
    Give me a break. The Miami DBs shut you down to 3 for 30. Deal with it

  23. Should offensive pass interference penalties negate receiving yards?

    It already does. Plus, one has to consider that drawing a defensive pass-interference call can be worth 20, 30, 40,yards. Offensive pass interference is just a 10 yard penalty, and the WR gets no yards.

  24. Somehow he thinks this is what is important to discuss after not putting up his usual numbers? Wide receiver yardage totals are already juiced ~ 50% due to all of the rule changes over the past 20 years. All of these prima donnas putting up 100+ carches & 1500 yards are not Hall of Famers ….they are simply above acerage for their era.

    How about make the penalty a 15 yarder instead?

  25. That is a conversation that should be left between your agent and the team. Not out in the open. Stats are what they are as they don’t tell the whole story. That is what your agent is for. He will show you are better than the stats because of this and try to get you more money but, don’t bring that nonsense out in the open because it looks bad on you.

  26. It already does. Plus, one has to consider that drawing a defensive pass-interference call can be worth 20, 30, 40,yards. Offensive pass interference is just a 10 yard penalty, and the WR gets no yards.

    What he’s saying is whether someone should keep a running tally of OPI penalties to use against a receiver. Hopkins would be among the league leaders in that category.

  27. Interesting how good insights and ideas are received with negative reactions… Nuk is more qualified to share an opinion like this than anyone commenting in this forum. “Listen”!

  28. Also, quarterbacks should get yards credited to them for interceptions because it’s still a completion. Another guy who grew up receiving 8th place trophies.

  29. This bad hair styled clown has no point whatsoever.

    It is entirely possible to catch a ball while being assaulted by a defender which draws a penalty. You will get those yards. The fact that you were not able to catch a ball that we have no idea if you’d even catch it should not pad your stats. Next thing you know QB’s will want the yards added to their stats as well.

    This is fraud.

    It is a penalty, jerk. Deal with it. Now get a real man’s haircut and take your snake hair and shove it up your helmet.

  30. “As long as the ball moves, that’s all I care about. But I do think the rules should change and receivers should get the counted yards for penalties,” Hopkins said.
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    NO IT SHOULDN’T, because there’s NO guarantee that the ball would have been caught!

  31. I agree as far as fantasy football is concerned. I’ve said this before with getting fantasy points for the receiver. As for real life football, Id be ok if there was a stat for wrs as far as acknowledging a pass interference call, but i don’t think it should go towards yards.

  32. It is a penalty, jerk. Deal with it. Now get a real man’s haircut and take your snake hair and shove it up your helmet.

    ….says the person hiding anonymously behind a keyboard.

  33. Lol wow! I’m seeing exclamation points, all caps, and someone even calling Hopkins a jerk lol. Some people really getting their feelings involved in this issue.

  34. Even if you’re not interfered with DeAndre there’s no guarantee you’re going to actually catch the ball. Therefore how can you be credited for a catch that never happened?

  35. Well, what’s also not reflected was that at least 2 of those penalties were trash calls. Star WRs get more credit where it is not due. So, no. Deal with your injustice…

  36. Dropped passes should also be subtracted yardage and wr’s tipping balls that turn into interception should also go against wr’s. What more do you want?

  37. He is really mad about the amount of target he saw. I get why Houston traded him but the compensation was dreadful. Should have been 1st/3rd starting. Not an 2nd and taking on an declining RB and his bad contract. Anyways, this is so dumb.

  38. Fantasy-wise the yards should count…cost me a win last week! I have Kyler AND Hopkins! MIA clearly told their DB to hold Hopkins!

  39. Showing how selfish he really is. It’s about team wins, not personal stats. And how many times have we seen great receivers still make the catch.

  40. Pass rushers get credited with qb hurries and qb pressures. Also qb hits. All you cry babies on here need to quit whining.

  41. Ananda says:
    November 13, 2020 at 5:26 pm
    Interesting how good insights and ideas are received with negative reactions… Nuk is more qualified to share an opinion like this than anyone commenting in this forum. “Listen”!

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    He’s not more qualified just because he happens to play football. You don’t have to play football to understand football rules and statistics well. He is more biased than anyone on this board, though, so that alone makes it prudent to approach his comments with skepticism

  42. mytor1962 says:
    November 13, 2020 at 7:35 pm
    Dropped passes should also be subtracted yardage and wr’s tipping balls that turn into interception should also go against wr’s. What more do you want?
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    Dropped passes is a stat. Why should they subtract yards for a drop? Doesn’t make any sense. Unless it was a backwards pass. But that is already considered a fumble. The wrs tipping balls and turning into an int is a valid point, but you’d have to break that down because many of those are from inaccurate passes by the qb. What else you got?

  43. I was going to be an NFL receiver until I hurt my shoulder. I think I should get a contract for “intent:

  44. Just no. DPI yards aren’t something that the receiver earns. If anything, the defender earns them by committing a foul and the receiver just happens to be there when it occurs. They should count as yards given up by the D. Nothing more.

  45. The offensive line should get credit for all offensive yards, since the quarterback can’t throw and the running back cant run without them blocking.

  46. He would have gotten credit for the yards if he made the catch. Fight through the PI and get those stats if that’s what’s important to you.

  47. And QBs should only be credited for the amount of yards where the receiver caught the ball. Then guys like phillip rivers would be exposed for the trash they are.

  48. Lol, what an idiot. If receivers caught a 100% of the balls passed to them and QBs were a 100% accurate, maybe but geez, do these guys post when they’re drunk or what. It makes no sense whatsoever to give credit for the yards when you don’t know if the receiver would have actually caught the ball and the QB would have actually delivered a catchable ball. Hilarious lol.

  49. As someone else pointed out, if you’re going to go down that route, dropped passes or passes errant the by the QB that the receiver didn’t catch, should be subtracted from their total yards.

  50. No but what you can do is keep track of those PI yards and keep them as a separate stat and also at the end of the year add them together with actual recieving yards plus penalized yards and potetial rushing or passing yards for your total yards production at seasons end

  51. Most Defensive PI calls are a judgement call. some are ligit, others are not, what I don’t like is that it is a spot foul even if the ball wasn’t catchable.

  52. I think Randy Moss would benefit the most from this change. It is one of the reasons I put him #2 after Jerry Rice.

  53. I believe DeAndre is the best WR in the league.
    I watched him numerous times battle with Jalen Ramsey – when he was still on my Jaguars team. Nuk catches everything that hits his hands. I think he holds record for most catches without a drop. But – if you don’t make a catch, you don’t get the stats. I believe QBs aren’t awarded yards either. And he masters push-offs. He should be called on a few OPI every game. Love his play, I’m glad he’s not on the Texans anymore. Him and Watson were unstoppable.

  54. Who is to say that they would have caught it to start with. Too much speculation. Maybe have that in your contract, that penalty yards against you have a monetary value, but on the regular stats, hard NO.

  55. Seriously? You’re trying to pad your stats based on the referee’s judgement calls? Get outta here with that! Earn your yards!

  56. I’d like to see the NFL take it a step further and give WR’s the credit for other player’s rushing yards. The WR’s are the ones doing the real work. They out there blocking!

  57. I love his game but he needs to GTFO of here with that. It’s bad enough defenders get credited with tackles for falling onto downed players at the end of a play. Of all the things that could be changed about the game, this really needs to be seen as a dumb comment and left in the dust.

    I’d still love to see him in the purple and black though…

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