Lions fire Matt Patricia, Bob Quinn

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Amid another losing season, Lions head coach Matt Patricia and General Manager Bob Quinn have both been fired.

The hammer came down two days after a disastrous loss to the Houston Texans on Thanksgiving dropped the Lions to 4-7 this season.

Everyone knew Patricia was on the hot seat, but firing Quinn at the same time is a strong statement from Lions owner Sheila Ford Hamp that this franchise needs major changes. This is Quinn’s fifth season as the Lions’ G.M., and the roster has only gotten worse, not better.

The team also got worse with Patricia as its coach. Jim Caldwell was fired as Lions head coach after back-to-back 9-7 seasons, and now Patricia has taken over for Caldwell and taken the Lions to three consecutive losing seasons.

Now the Lions will get to work on rebuilding a franchise that has been run into the ground.

143 responses to “Lions fire Matt Patricia, Bob Quinn

  1. Unfortunately, this franchise has been rudderless for a while. Middling for too many years.

  2. I always find these mid-season firings baffling. It never helps the team (yes, I am sure there are 1-2 exceptions to my “never” statement). So why not wait until season’s end? Bill O’Brien’s firing was even stranger since the team gave him GM power this season and then pulled the plug? That doesn’t help the team, it doesn’t help the players, it doesn’t help the owners. Patricia and Quinn’s firings seemingly torpedo the team and tell the players, “We’ve given up.” I have no doubt the players are feeling like crap now. Good work, owner!

  3. Obviously right move but again I mean Patricia’s biggest contribution to the game as a coach was to put a pencil behind his ear.

    There is no tree.

  4. This guy was a bad hire from the beginning. He was the defensive coordinator when the Nick Foles Eagles put up like 100 points against the vaunted Patriots in the superbowl. He obviously doesn’t take care of himself like other younger coaches and has a big unkept beard and a backwards hat like he just arrived to a frat party. The pencil in the ear thing is a poor mans attempt to appear like he has a clue and his head coaching tenure is an unmitigated disaster.

    The same thing is happening on the Cowboys with McCarthy. Don’t look a ‘decent’ head coach in the mouth if you have one. Caldwell deserved better.

  5. Long overdue. 3 years wasted off of the primes of players like Stafford and once again Detroit isn’t any better off now than they were when a decade ago. Why exactly did they fire Caldwell again?

  6. I grew up in Michigan and now I live in Jacksonville. Maybe it’s me bringing bad luck to the teams that I follow.

    Caldwell and Marrone should be joining these two on the unemployment line soon.

  7. rule number 1
    if you have no ability to run the ball in the NFL, you cannot win.
    Stat number 1 since barry sanders retired. detroit 32nd in rushing cumulatively.
    they need a hard ass coach there that wants to return to physical football and build out from the DL and OL, neither is even average

  8. Another Patriot assistant who thought Belichick’s secret to success is being terse and uncommunicative.

  9. Everybody trying to hire Patriots assistants when they need to be hiring the camera crew

  10. My take, If your last name is Quinn and you are currently employed in the NFL, You may want to start looking at other income sources…….

  11. I have never been to Detroit, don’t root for the Lions, but I am glad to see Matt Patricia get fired. Everything I read about the guy made him seem like a total jerk. And the GM who fired the previous coach to bring this guy in deserved it as well. Maybe they can hire the Cowboys GM away from Dallas, kill 3 birds with one stone.

  12. The last 2 teams to win the super bowl hired coaches that had been fired. They were retreads, but good coaches. Belichick and Andy Reid. Even though they’re good coaches, the reason they won was because they had the best QB in the league. The Lions could have kept these two guys and drafted Trevor Lawrence, and they’d both become geniuses. Look at Tampa Bay and Indianapolis. Teams that are greatly improved. Did they hire new coaches, or did they keep the same coaches but go out and sign HOF QB’s? This isn’t nuclear science.

  13. Long overdue. They fired Jim Caldwell, who had a 36-28 record as coach, for a guy who looks like a homeless bum with a pencil who posted a record of 13–29–1.

  14. In all seriousness they never recognized how Jim Caldwell ascended Detroit to 9-7. 9-7 may not have been their ceiling, no, but the Lions were nowhere close to underachieving under his time there. I see this as poetic justice in a way.

  15. If you go through this many coaches and youre still at the bottom. Then it ain’t the coaches that is the problem

  16. wearewhowethoughtwewere says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    That Belichick coaching tree though
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    Though Vrabel and Flores are doing well this sapling of a tree pales in comparison to the mighty oak that is the Walsh coaching tree.

  17. Long overdue. They fired Jim Caldwell, who had a 36-28 record as coach, for a guy who looks like a homeless bum with a pencil who posted a record of 13–29–1.

    To be fair, Patricia didn’t have that record when they hired him

  18. The Lions haven’t won a playoff game since 1992. One playoff win since 1957.

    The Browns at their nadir may have been worse, with more inept coaching and front office personnel, but in terms of longevity, Detroit has a very solid claim on the factory of sadness…

  19. Now let Staford have a chance with another team. Drop any aging players as well and build from youth. No more a piece here and a piece there.

  20. Another failed bellichick disciple. That’s two head coaches from his coachong tree fired this year, after BOB. Patricia was billed as a defensive mastermind, so when you have a middling defense after 3 years and you are still going in the wrong direction, someomes gotta answer for it. Matthew Stafford has been done such a disservice in his career. Here hoping he can get a competent coach to end on top.

  21. Fabio Fantone says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    Unfortunately, this franchise has been rudderless for a while. Middling for too many years.

    45 1 Rate This

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    The same can be said about the Cowboys but their GM is untouchable.

  22. sameer1138 says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:52 pm
    I always find these mid-season firings baffling. It never helps the team (yes, I am sure there are 1-2 exceptions to my “never” statement). So why not wait until season’s end? Bill O’Brien’s firing was even stranger since the team gave him GM power this season and then pulled the plug?
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    Have you seen the Texans after BoB got sacked?? They are WAY better.

  23. I seriously don’t know what the issue is with Detroit. They’ve had multiple top 10 draft picks, have had very talented players across the board from both the draft and free agency, but they just can’t get it going. I hope they make the right hire this time and can get the results.

  24. Maybe they can go to Cleveland and talk to the homeless man that told the owner there to Draft Johnny Football. He might Know a coach for them.

  25. Will not be a very desirable destination either. Who ever takes over as coach will inherit a roster depleted of talent. Will need to rebuild all together. Best hope will be to net something for Stafford via trade.

  26. billsfan716 says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:04 pm
    Long overdue. They fired Jim Caldwell, who had a 36-28 record as coach, for a guy who looks like a homeless bum with a pencil who posted a record of 13–29–1.

    To be fair, Patricia didn’t have that record when they hired him
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    Caldwell’s 36-28 record is entirely with the Lions. Does not include his Colts stint. All Patricia had going for him was being associated with Belichick, buddies with Quinn, and a pencil.

  27. Bob Quinn was completely in over his head running an NFL franchise and to make matters worse, surrounded himself with people who knew less than him.

    It could be argued that his firing of Jim Caldwell was warranted, or at the very least understandable, but his pick for head coach was a complete whiff. Matt Patricia simply did not understand how to build on the fly. He took a team that was hungry to win and completely dismantled it.

    The two of them were doomed to fail, and that’s exactly what they did, miserably.

    #because9-7wasntgoodenough

  28. They clearly did better with Caldwell, but most teams aren’t going to want to top out at 9-7. Just like the Chargers firing Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season, they were too hasty and have only been worse since. But it’s also clear they didn’t feel like they had their long-term answer in place.

    Hitting a home run like the Chiefs did is really rare. Maybe just being a stable, steady, respectable team that has a shot at the playoffs each year isn’t such a bad thing for everyone else.

  29. amazing how all these Patriot assistant coaches fail as HC’s once they lose the Brady and BB blankie isn’t it?

  30. billzondarise says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:03 pm
    wearewhowethoughtwewere says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    That Belichick coaching tree though
    —————————-
    Though Vrabel and Flores are doing well this sapling of a tree pales in comparison to the mighty oak that is the Walsh coaching tree.
    ——————————————————————————–
    Vrabel never coach for BB or the Pats.

  31. No one should consider hiring MP as DC. The Lions Defense (his specialty) has been awful from the moment he got there.

  32. Are the same decision makers that hired Patricia and Quinn going to be hiring the new coach and GM? Just thinking, maybe the real problem is the decision maker doesn’t have a clue.

  33. Boy, now the Lions players are REALLY going to party. I see a super-spreader happening in Detroit.

  34. Congratulations Lions fans!! Like Pittsburgh Pirates fans…hope springs eternal so at least you have something to look forward to!! Anything is better than hopeless!!

  35. Patricia the ‘defensive mastermind’ who let Foles score at will on him in the Super Bowl without finding any way to adjust or slow down a backup QB should have been a sign that this guy is a bozo.

  36. Only good news to come from the NFL this entire week. Patricia never deserved that job in the first place and I’m glad Bob the stooge is finally gone. Maybe they’ll make a competent hire finally. Lord knows Stafford deserves to end his career on a high note.

  37. When will teams stop falling in love with Belichick’s assistants?? The evidence is overwhelming that their success is thanks to being under his umbrella. Every single one has failed miserably.

  38. Merry Christmas to us.
    Merry Christmas to us.
    Merry Christmas to Lions fans
    Merry Christmas to us.

  39. charliecharger says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:01 pm
    The last 2 teams to win the super bowl hired coaches that had been fired. They were retreads, but good coaches. Belichick and Andy Reid. Even though they’re good coaches, the reason they won was because they had the best QB in the league. The Lions could have kept these two guys and drafted Trevor Lawrence, and they’d both become geniuses. Look at Tampa Bay and Indianapolis. Teams that are greatly improved. Did they hire new coaches, or did they keep the same coaches but go out and sign HOF QB’s? This isn’t nuclear science.
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    You do realize that the Jets at 0-10 and Jaguars at 1-9 have a better shot of drafting Trevor then the 4-7 Lions.

  40. If the Green Bay Packers can come out of a 20 year slump and win what seems like forever so can the Lions,

  41. Everybody gets seduced by the Patriot Way. They seem to forget that Belichick is the main cog. No Bill, No Way…

  42. Two years late. I normally say you shouldn’t cycle through coaches so quickly, but it was very apparent early on that this wasn’t a head coach, and Quinn hiring him should have been ample evidence that he didn’t deserve his job either. It’s like you wonder who sat in on those interviews and green lit the bad hire. I don’t care of you were familiar with him. That should have made you more aware that he shouldn’t be a head coach.

  43. The CAT had to come back to PFT and say one thing about this news…….

    ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. Detroit beats Cleveland hands down as the factory of Sadness. Firing these 2 bums was needed but its the ownership who constantly hire underachieving coaches and GM’s that make this franchise the armpit of the NFL. When the greatest running back to ever play the game quits in his prime because he’s tired of losing that should have been the wake up call ownership needed to burn this thing to the ground and start over.

  45. Liberty Biberty says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    So which network will Patricia be an analyst for next season?

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    None.
    Although most of the TV analysts are big-mouthed blowhards, at least they’ve all won something or were considered among the best in their field. Patricia meets none of that criteria.

  46. Cincinnati Bengals = Detroit Lions

    Hopefully Sack Taylor and Puke Tobin are next to get the Pink Slip!!

  47. It’s stafford not the coach and the Giants found out the same thing a year later.Couldn’t wait three weeks. Bad call it to wait for the end to f season. I’m sure all coaches are saying what a great ownerships

  48. Never should have fired Caldwell. Was 36-28 in four years and made the playoffs twice. When you have a perpetually losing franchise, you don’t hire a coach with that record unless you have proven Superbowl winning coach in the wings. So now all the progress they made under Caldwell is gone, Stafford is 3 years older, and they have literally start from scratch now. Great job lions. I haven’t seen a firing so dumb since Daniel Snyder fired Marty.

  49. You could tell this was doomed from the beginning when he was ripping journalists for not sitting up straight and showing him the proper respect. Same thing with the way he treated the players.

    Patricia was pulling this high school crap on everyone to show the players and media that he was in charge before doing anything to earn it.

    Turns out he never earned it but I did hear a million times that he’s a rocket scientist becuase the media never had anything else positive to say about the guy.

  50. WHY do others NOT think it’s BELICHICK who knows what he’s doing.
    & building a team ain’t that hard, esp. when u have top pix.
    & for those bashing Nick Foles, he’s a smart qb who needs an O line & wr, running game.
    he had A LOT of input w/the SUPER BOWL EAGLES.
    what happened when eagles let foles go-sb MVP-& went with ‘theore talented qb?
    nagy should be bext fired. terrible. & Pace? HIW CAN HE STILL HAVE A JOB. mitch isetter than mahomes?!
    some guys go outta their way to prove they kno more than others… beware of those guys!

  51. It’s not that B.B.’s tree of coaches are failing. It’s that the Detroit GM & Coach were not successful. They are responsible, not Bill. The team Moving on now, makes sense to me, as there are already teams conducting searches. They now have time to find the right GM, who can help find the appropriate coach. Good Luck Lion’s fans.

  52. With everything going wrong in Ann Arbor not too far away. Not knowing what Jim Harbaugh’s future holds at Michigan, This could be a door opening up for Jim Harbaugh to return to the NFL.

  53. I think it’s pretty clear after about 15 failed regimes in a row…the problem is incompetence above Bob Quinn’s level. How does Rod Wood escape the hatchet? Oh, because he’s buddies with the Fords? Really good message to project there, guys.

  54. they can have Zimmer if they want, heck I’ll even throw in Cousins because it’s the holidays

  55. I hope he sat up and didn’t slouch in the chair when told he was being relieved of his duties.

  56. Everyone makes a great point about Patricia in Super Bowl LII. However, let’s not forget that it was Belichick’s move to bench Malcolm Butler in the biggest game of the season. That messed with everything. Look at Belichick’s defense back in 2005, 2007, 2011, and 2013 as well. It goes to show that having the greatest quarterback of all time helped out a lot, too.

  57. She dropped the hammer. Detroit fans must be going nuts with thanks to her. Step up or get stepped on. At least she cares enough to make the tough decisions. They have played lethargic for years. I would throw the checkbook at Dabo Sweeny at Clemson and tell him to fill in the numbers. He is a motivator of men. His teams come out ready to play and kick (|) from the kickoff. Look how they are dismembering Pitt today. You can pay the players all day long but really good coaches are more valuable then gold.

  58. “The same thing is happening on the Cowboys with McCarthy. Don’t look a ‘decent’ head coach in the mouth if you have one.”

    Oh no no no no no no no …

    no no no …

  59. Virginia McCaskey, are you listening ? (probably not as its time for apple sauce). Does George have the will to do what needs to be done ? Will Ziggy get a clue and do what is best to win long term ? (probably not). Time will tell but odds are there may be at least 2 more GM/HC firings in the NFC North coming…..

  60. My guess is the Lions will hire this months flavor OC…that would be the KC Chiefs OC.

  61. fmartin43 says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:07 pm
    There’s a guy in Ann Arbor that might be available to coach. 🤣🤣🤣

    Obviously worth a look. So is Chris Peterson, though I think he wants to stay on the west coast.

  62. PFTSelectiveCensorship says:

    Vrabel never coach for BB or the Pats
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    My bad.

    Does explain why he’s doing well though.

  63. Former Patriot Patricia can now join Tom Brady down in Tampa.

    To play a pirate and fire the cannons, not to coach.

  64. Jim Harbaugh is a good college coach, but not so good in the NFL. He treats players like college kids…and that wears thin after a few years.

  65. All of these dumb comments about Caldwell this, Caldwell that. Last time I checked, going 9-7 was AVERAGE. Y’all are talking about him like he’s Bill Walsh with two Super Bowl rings. Give it a rest. Caldwell always has been, and always will be, AVERAGE at best.

  66. Stafford has at least 7-8 years left in his career. If the Lions bring in a proven NFL executive as GM and hire Bieniemy at HC, #9 will have a sweet cap to his career. He has the arm talent. He’s incredibly tough. He’s a good leader. And, the stats are piling up. Hire a HC who can help him WIN something!

  67. Yes it was long overdue that these 2 clowns got fired. But can we please stop with the Jim Caldwell lovefest – jeez. He had plenty of talent and never won either. Enough.

  68. As bad as Patricia is (or was), Quinn was even worse. Quinn has single handily set the franchise back at least 3 years.

    Their next hire has to be a GM with experience, develop a master plan that involves rebuilding the right way and then stay the course. ya, it will never happen but that’s what they should do.

  69. billzondarise says:
    November 28, 2020 at 3:03 pm
    wearewhowethoughtwewere says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    That Belichick coaching tree though
    —————————-
    Though Vrabel and Flores are doing well this sapling of a tree pales in comparison to the mighty oak that is the Walsh coaching tree.
    —————————————————————————————-
    Walsh’s assistants:
    Seifert- won 2 SBs
    Holgrem- 3 SB appearances/ trained Andy Reid who won a SB
    Green- trained Dungy and Billick who each won a SB.
    Shannahan was mentored by Seifert and then won 2 SBs

  70. sameer1138 says:
    November 28, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    I always find these mid-season firings baffling.
    ——-

    The thinking is it will give them a head start on hiring a new coach. Many candidates will not even take calls to interview for filled positions. Also, the farther along you go the bigger risk the HC will be unable to get the assistants he wants from other teams.

  71. They fired the GM they got from the Patriots. They fired the coach they got from the Patriots.

    When do they fire all the ex Patriots players that were given outsized contracts as a reward for their years as Patriot players and view Detroit as their retirement home?

    Notice that all these ex Patriots coaches end up giving huge contracts to anyone who even shook hands with Belichek?

  72. Bringing back Matt Millen would be an upgrade over the just-fired clown show. But yeah, don’t try that.

  73. I really feel bad for the Detroit fan base. They’ve had to endure years and years of ho-hum mediocrity that seems to have started right around the Matt Millen days. If ever a team needed a full change of culture, this one is it.

    If it were my choice I’d find the most high-energy, positive outlook, positive attitude kind of HC that I could. Whether a young college guy or a seasoned coach from another team, it doesn’t matter. As long as the guy can lead them in a full culture change that starts and ends with positivity. Then let that HC be instrumental in the hiring decision for a new GM. That way the two of them are living the same vision. The same plan. The same positive culture.

    But in doing this, I’d go even one step further and show the world that their culture change starts today. How? Well they can send a message by hiring a positive thinking HC that isn’t white. As a white man myself I’ve always been one that believes in hiring the most qualified for any job. But in this case I would make it a priority to find a highly qualified candidate that is clearly diverse from the typical young, white “offensive-genius” guys we see now.

    It’s an opportunity for one of the leagues oldest and most respected teams and ownership “groups” to step forward and say we’re not only going to change our culture, we’re going to change the league’s culture. Then do it. And win a SB doing it.

  74. None of these guys have been successful away from the Patriots. Now Belichick isn’t doing so hot without a certain QB.

    Maybe all of the success from all of the yokels can be attributed to one QB………

  75. Eric Bienemy is going to have lots of options to be a head coach. Don’t bet on Detroit to be his choice, though. And, please Detroit, don’t go shopping at the Patriots coaches room again. It’s a bargain market with bad produce!

  76. The Ford family has shown absolutely no competence in running an NFL franchise. It’s time to sell the Lions to someone who will hire good football people and stay out of their way.

  77. Lions coaching and admin changes are the best. Always fun to see how they can screw it up even worse the next time.

  78. They are both assets to a football organization quinn was part of building 4 an winners matt coached on 3 sb winning teams. Call belichick and come home the grass isnt always greener on the other side just looks that way cause of money.

  79. Love how former Lions have been dunking on Patricia on Twitter.

    Love that Sheila Ford Hamp lived up to her word and fired these clowns. It’s her show now. She’s passionate about wanting the Lions to be a winning team. Supposedly she gets upset by fans saying the Ford family only cares about making money off the Lions. Time will tell, but showing these two the door was a step in the right direction.

    Stafford will be gone this year. I’m wondering if he will be a starter anywhere next season? He’s a Texas kid and going to the Cowboys makes the most sense. But we’ll see what Jerry wants to do in the off season.

  80. Not sure how attractive the Lions jobs will be compared to TX with Watson or the Jets who’ll have Lawrence. Detroit’s roster and ownership doesn’t exactly instill confidence.

  81. What’s wrong with you people that claim Detroit fired Caldwell for Patricia? They didn’t fire Caldwell for Patsicia, they had no idea who they were going to hire as HC, to fire someone and claim it was for another person they must know who the new HC was going to be like the Raiders did with Gruden, the Lions didn’t have a clue who there HC would be when they fired Caldwell!

    OH I hope that as someone said the Lions hire Bieniemy and then in 2-3yrs we can put all this talk of why he hasn’t gotten a HC chance yet to bed! Those of us that know can tell you why, just look at the Chiefs sideline any weekend and see who has the playchart in their hand >98% of the time, that’s 100% Andy’s offense and Eric just runs the practices, he’s not HC material.

  82. I’m betting we’ve seen the last of the pencil. That is if he’s even able to get some coaching job. All of that lead must of got to his brain.

  83. Caldwell was average, at this best. He shouldn’t and won’t return to Detroit. Detroit needs to offer Saban full control, GM/Coach if he wants it. Plan B should be offering the same to Urban Meyer. Plan C should be Lincoln Riley.

  84. “ Now the Lions will get to work on rebuilding a franchise that has been run into the ground.”

    LOL, Quinn and Patricia were handed a college caliber franchise that was run aground decades ago. It has been so bad in Detroit, that HOF level players like Sanders and Johnson Quit in the prime of their career. That doesn’t happen anywhere else; only Detroit.

  85. The only thing Patricia learned from Bill Belichick is how to look like a slob on the sidelines.

  86. These guys set em back a decade. No apology needed to Jim. Under Jim, they were still upper middle and staying there… not on the rise.

    Our hope is that the team is better than record… and intentionally scuttled the ship for change.

    Looking forward to the day I walk into a room w my Lions hat… and everyone doesn’t feel compelled to console me.

  87. My guess is the Lions will hire this months flavor OC…that would be the KC Chiefs OC.///

    Yup the one that didn’t come up with the offense or call the plays for the Chiefs’s offense. And he will be a head coach soon too.

  88. Having consecutive winning seasons with the Lions after getting the Colts to the Super Bowl apparently makes Jim Caldwell average? Bottom feeder teams can’t complain about winning records being average because if it was they wouldn’t be bottom feeders.

    Lions fans downplaying Caldwell sound like bitter older Browns fans when they talk about Bellichick.

  89. Belichick cuts the roots off the coaching tree before he sends the saplings to another team.

  90. Lots of plans fail but few fail this spectacularly. When they hired him they’d won 9 games each of the previous two seasons so everything seemed set–you know they were absolutely convinced they’d immediately be winning 10+ and going deep into the playoffs. Instead they had a 3-win season in his second year.

  91. I sincerely hope Shiela Ford-Hamp is calling John Dorsey for the GM opening. That dude can build a roster.

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