Brandon Beane reflects on drafting Josh Allen, when many had doubts

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When Bills General Manager Brandon Beane chose Josh Allen with the seventh overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft, plenty of people had doubts. Allen has proven the doubters wrong, and that’s a big part of the reason that Beane just signed a five-year contract extension.

Now that Beane can look back on that decision as a home run, he says that what really sold him on Allen was what he learned about Allen the person as the Bills researched what people at Wyoming thought of him.

“You’ve got to talk to teammates. You’ve got to talk to obviously coaches. You’ve got to talk to people in the school,” Beane said, via NewYorkUpstate.com. “How does this person treat an intern? How does this person treat a classmate? How does this person treat the lowest guy? You know they’re going to treat their head coach well. But how do they treat a position coach?”

Beane said the Bills heard unanimously that Allen was the kind of person they’d want as the face of a franchise.

“Whether you thought he was going to be a good player or not, if you’re around this young man, you knew that he was going to leave no stone unturned to be the best player he can be,” Beane said. “And I was willing, and we as an organization were willing, to live or die with that. And Josh has done everything we’ve asked him.”

Beane made the right choice, and he and Allen should have many years together in Buffalo.

49 responses to “Brandon Beane reflects on drafting Josh Allen, when many had doubts

  1. I remember NFL experts saying Josh Rosen was the most NFL ready. Thanks for not listening Mr. Beane.

  2. If he had been a more accurate passer in college, he wouldn’t have been available at the seventh pick. But we like the way this played out and the gamble seems to have payed off.

  3. I’m so glad he wasn’t a can’t miss recruit or he wouldn’t have gone to the Bills at #7. He was born to play in western NY! Go Bills!! 🦬

  4. He should consider himself lucky he got drafted by Buffalo. I’ve been there to see my fave team play the Bills and when it comes to football, that town is Green Bay 2.0, absolutely loved it, can’t wait to go back there. No comparison to getting served a loaded plate full of hot wings at the Anchor Bar. But yeah, they nailed the Allen pick, he’s gonna be fun to watch for years.

  5. “It was all a dream,” said Biggie. It may have been at Wyoming, or even the first couple years in Buffalo. Now it’s probably sinking in that being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL is a reality that’s actually obtainable. A young QB doesn’t scrap his throwing motion and retool it in the off-season, or study and emulate the greats (Josh Allen has taken a cue from Aaron Rodger’s footwork while throwing) if he isn’t extremely dedicated and driven. Buffalo work ethic all the way. Thrilled to have him here

  6. Good thing, the rest of his drafts have been pedestrian on a good day.

    Oliver 9th overall
    Zay Jones instead of the far more obvious pick of Smith-Shuster
    Epenessa’s underperforming
    Ford who’s underperforming
    Singletary and Moss are underperforming

    If Allen weren’t banging on all cylinders right now the Bills would be 3-9

  7. The Analytical Kid says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:27 am
    Good thing, the rest of his drafts have been pedestrian on a good day.

    Oliver 9th overall
    Zay Jones instead of the far more obvious pick of Smith-Shuster
    Epenessa’s underperforming
    Ford who’s underperforming
    Singletary and Moss are underperforming

    If Allen weren’t banging on all cylinders right now the Bills would be 3-9

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    Well, you’re leaving some out. Tre’Davious White (see that pick last week?), Tremaine Edmunds (see that goal line stop last week?), Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano. Not too shabby

  8. Don’t fool yourself. When a GM hits on 1st round picks and especially a 10 year franchise QB, he earns a lot of leeway in the later rounds. The opposite also holds; Exhibit A, Ryan Pace in Chicago, who has actually found good players in Rounds 3-5 (that the coaches have failed to use or develop adequately), but has whiffed on way too many 1st and 2nd round picks, especially QB, and will likely pay for it with his job come January.

  9. No GMs however great do not have 100% success. The good ones guess right more than wrong and I am very happy Beane believed in Josh while most of us second guessed the pick.

  10. i am an eagle fan and a big fan of sean mcdermott. i would caution mr bean that about two years ago howie roseman was taking a similar victory lap, having gotten wentz’ extension done early to have him for longer at a lower cost per year..

    just saying that things that look lead pipe certain turn out not always to be so….

  11. The Analytical Kid says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:27 am

    Good thing, the rest of his drafts have been pedestrian on a good day.

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    Hmm? Let’s go down the list shall we?

    Starters that Beane drafted:
    QB- Allen
    RB1/ RB2 – Singletary / Moss
    WR – Davis
    OL – Ford
    TE – Knox

    That’s 5/11 starters on the Offense

    DL – Oliver
    LB – Edmunds
    CB – Johnson

    3/11 on defense

    K – Bass

    That’s 10 starters in 3 drafts. Name another 9-3 team, or better, with 10 starters from the past 3 drafts.

    P.S. Beane didn’t draft Z. Jones. At least get your facts straight.

  12. Anyone who looked at tape didn’t have any doubts. If they did, then they need to find a different profession.

  13. Allen is average at best and won’t be as good once you pay him and don’t have the money to surround him with great players. The Bills have talent but this team will only go as far as Allen will take them and that won’t be past the best of the conference. In a couple of years they will pay Allen top dollars and it will look like a Carson Wentz situation. We see these cycles even with the great QBs. The difference is a guy like Rodgers can carry a team. We haven’t seen that from Allen. He is good enough to get paid and give hope but not good enough to win it all.

  14. Allen is extremely inconsistent. Buffalo is playing a team with a winning record and healthy starters tomorrow. I think dr jekyll will turn back into Mr hyde.

  15. Remember when Jets fans were boasting about how much better Darnold was? Crickets……

  16. I was definitely one of those Josh Allen idiot doubters because of his accuracy issues in college. But I was very wrong. He’s worked really hard to improve his game and he’s very quickly made himself one of the best QBs in the league.

  17. Even without receiving talent last year, Allen did it with his legs. This year, they have the receiving talent……and now look out for the return of the running QB in the playoffs.

    Patriots fan here, and we think Allen is a stud!

  18. He was talked about as a potential number one overall pick going into his last year in college.

  19. “He hasn’t proved anything yet, so don’t get excited.”

    I’ll try not to enjoy 9-3, being on top of the AFCE and having a QB that is consistently putting up 300+ yards and multiple TD’s.

    I can’t promise anything, though.

  20. Baker Mayfield also picked Josh Allen to succeed out of his draft class (in an interview prior to the draft).

    Both QBs are doing well this year. The key to Baker doing well is OBJ out. Allen just needed more time at QB…

    I’m not a fan of teams and fans giving up on players so quickly. They’re often drafted neither physically or mentally mature, or are just plain inexperienced.

  21. major differences between Wentz and Allen… Josh is getting better incrementally every year and stays healthy so haters please stop.

  22. He’s basically saying he’s awesome because he drafted the right Josh (Rosen). Seriously, he’s done a great job. The Bills are title contenders.

  23. Wentz never fully recovered from his injury…He does not extend plays anymore…Basically a pocket passer that needs a lot of support.

    His accuracy also has gotten worse…Not sure why.

  24. Wow!
    Some people have really severe cases of Buffalo/Josh Allen Derangement Syndrome.
    Don’t understand why they only want to see the negative in everything regarding Buffalo.
    They think the GM should hit on 100% of his picks. They’re still stuck on some tweets Allen made when he was 16 years old.
    They’re really bothered & bummed out that the Bills are finally having some success.

  25. Imagine watching Monday Night Football last week and then pop troll heads out here to say Allen isn’t any good lmao. Allen’s got 3 AFC player or the week awards already this season and is the clear 3rd place MVP candidate behind only Mahomes and Rodgers, who are both having career, all-time years. When Allen is on top of his game, he is as good as any QB in the NFL.

  26. He may look like a genius now but history shows that general managers are guessing at best. When Mahommes came out the geniuses were all saying he’d never develop in a pro style offense and you have the move by Ryan Pace (that thought so little of hi) they moved UP to get Trubisky. So I’m happy for Buffalo the educated guess turned out well, but Beane acting like he’s now a genius with above average insight probably is a stretch .

  27. lz69 says:
    December 12, 2020 at 11:59 am
    Allen is extremely inconsistent. Buffalo is playing a team with a winning record and healthy starters tomorrow. I think dr jekyll will turn back into Mr hyde.

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    The Bills are 9-3 and have played one of the hardest schedules in the NFL. They have wins over the Rams, Seahawks, Dolphins and Raiders. Take out the two games against the 0-12 Jets and the Bills have still gone 7-3 against a schedule that’s a combined 71-51.

    I’m guessing you’re a Steelers fan who is conveniently forgetting that the Steelers have played the easiest schedule in the league too

  28. dlw492 says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:53 am
    Those deleted Tweets paint a different picture though..
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    Good thing his team mates don’t visit your art gallery then. Some people mature as they grow older, and then again, some don’t.

  29. jredshoes says:

    December 12, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    He may look like a genius now but history shows that general managers are guessing at best. When Mahommes came out the geniuses were all saying he’d never develop in a pro style offense and you have the move by Ryan Pace (that thought so little of hi) they moved UP to get Trubisky. So I’m happy for Buffalo the educated guess turned out well, but Beane acting like he’s now a genius with above average insight probably is a stretch .

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    Well 1st off it wasnt that no one thought Mahomes would develop in a pro style offense just that it would take him longer. It also isnt that Mahomes was thought so lowly of they traded for Trubisky it’s because they thought so high of Trubisky. Your trying to shoehorn in your narrative as fact when it not.

  30. dlw492 says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:53 am
    Those deleted Tweets paint a different picture though..
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    Good thing his team mates don’t visit your art gallery then. Some people mature as they grow older, and then again, some don’t.
    …………………………………

    I’m pretty sure Allen was singing or saying the lyrics from a rap song. Wasn’t heart felt. Just listen to teammates and people that know him rave about him.

  31. He pretty much has to say that. But who would they have gone for if picking #1? Probably no one will ever know. Browns fan here and I was hoping they would have picked Josh but Baker has done a good job under the browns way of reshuffling the deck every year plus u don’t go from 4-44 to the Superbowl. Browns have progressed nicely since Baker was drafted.

  32. Allen is an example why I’m not mad at my Giants for taking Barkley at #2 that year. Darnold turned out to be a dud, and Rosen turned out even worse. Allen was considered the “biggest project with the most upside” among the four (Lamar Jackson wasn’t in the conversation either). Barkley was as sure a thing as there is in a draft, and at least we got a good player with our first round pick.

  33. JOSH ALLEN APOLOGY FORM:

    REASON (choose all that apply):
    ___ Wanted Rosen Instead
    ___ Don’t Know Football
    ___ Didn’t Watch The Games
    ___ Read Too Many Tweets
    ___ I Hate The Bills

    I HEREBY DECLARE I AM SORRY FOR EVER DOUBTING JOSH ALLEN

    NAME: _________________________________

    SIGNATURE: ________________________________________

    DATE: _______________

  34. Josh Allen has had himself quite a year. Definitely not the same qb coming out of college (who was wildly inconsistent). Not sure if coaching or maturity or both but he has improved leaps and bounds as a passer.

    To the guy who said he is “miles” better than Baker….I think you need to look at the stats again. He has over 1k more passing yards and all other metrics are very close. If you consider 3 terrible weather games Baker played in…..one could see why he would have less yards. He won those games with smart play.

    Josh looks good. Hope he keeps it up. Baker looks good. Hope he keeps it up. Rosen is a bust (I think its safe to say at this point) and Darnold looks on the verge of going that direction unless something dramatically changes.

    Jackson looks like a generational athlete that has some, albeit limited, passing ability. Scary fast, elusive runner though.

  35. bboyspaulrevere says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:18 am
    He should consider himself lucky he got drafted by Buffalo. I’ve been there to see my fave team play the Bills and when it comes to football, that town is Green Bay 2.0, absolutely loved it, can’t wait to go back there. No comparison to getting served a loaded plate full of hot wings at the Anchor Bar. But yeah, they nailed the Allen pick, he’s gonna be fun to watch for years.

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    lol

    The Anchor Bar has nowhere near the best wings in the crappy city.

  36. He has gotten better but many QBs succeed these days … still has to get beyond losing a 16-0 lead in the playoffs.

  37. You should have doubts about any player drafted at QB. So many simply don’t pan out. But it is not always judt about the player, its what team they are drafted to, QB coach, if offensive style suits him, etc.

  38. The Bills took the highest rated QB remaining on the board when it was their turn to draft. Congrats on this “skillful” decision.

  39. He is who the Eagles thought they were getting when they drafted Wentz. 7th overall isn’t quite a steal but worse players taken higher than that spot. When Qb’s get flags for anything other than delay of game they almost become likeable

  40. hellooooooooooobrooklyn says:
    December 12, 2020 at 10:41 am

    Well, you’re leaving some out. Tre’Davious White (see that pick last week?), Tremaine Edmunds (see that goal line stop last week?), Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano. Not too shabby

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    numbers says:
    December 12, 2020 at 11:28 am

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    Hmm? Let’s go down the list shall we?

    Starters that Beane drafted:
    QB- Allen
    RB1/ RB2 – Singletary / Moss
    WR – Davis
    OL – Ford
    TE – Knox

    That’s 5/11 starters on the Offense

    DL – Oliver
    LB – Edmunds
    CB – Johnson

    3/11 on defense

    K – Bass

    That’s 10 starters in 3 drafts. Name another 9-3 team, or better, with 10 starters from the past 3 drafts.

    P.S. Beane didn’t draft Z. Jones. At least get your facts straight.

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    Sure, LET’S go down the list, but LET’S also be objective about it. Simply throwing out the unicorns prancing around the field argument is short-changing the audience.

    And first of all, this is also why three years in on Beane the team has the …

    23rd ranked rushing offense, DFL w/o Allen’s contributions;
    21st ranked yardage D
    18th ranked scoring D
    24th ranked rushing D
    and the 20th ranked passing D.

    Care to comment on the reasons for that well below average team performance across the board otherwise?

    ALL below average as if that needs to be said.

    So explain to us all how the Bills are 9-3 w/o Allen and how they’d be better than .500 w/o him?

    White, Dawkins, Milano (not a 3-down LB because he sucks at run D, contributing to that poor ranking) were all pre-Beane.

    Singletary averages 45 YPG and a rushing TD every 8 games or so in two seasons.
    Moss even worse at 32 YPG, at least he’s on pace for 5 rushing TDs. Together they don’t even put up 80 YPG.
    Those are the big contributors from this year’s draft. That’s good drafting in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to you? I don’t know, maybe it is. I don’t think so. Look at the comps for those players, it may impact your thinking there.

    Oliver for a 9th overall pick is a bust. Dude is invisible in half the games. He’s averaging 1 sack every 4 games (4/season avg.), only slightly better in TFLs, and not even 1 QB Hit every other game. That sure wasn’t the talk about him when they drafted him. All we heard was about how he was the next Aaron Donald. More like the next John McCargo. They won’t play his option year. Fools if they do given that output.

    Ford has been a disappointment for a high-2nd round pick. He’s below average and very inconsitent. Below average by PFF too.

    Knox has averaged 23 YPG, less this season, and 1 TD every four games. He’s very inconsistent and ranks about 150th in catch%. Also below-average by PFF.

    Taron Johnson has 1 INT in three seasons and well below-average numbers otherwise, either on the whole or this season. He too is ranked well below-average by PFF. That’s good?

    Davis is about the best, but he’s only averaging about 35 YPG. He catches TDs. But he’s also ranked poorly in catch% at 126th. Who knows how he would be performing as a starter.

    I mean is that good and above-average performance in your guys’ world? It doesn’t seem to be by any normal standards, including PFF. Not even close.

    Otherwise, let us know which of those players are notably above average? Short answer, none. I even love Edmunds, but a WHOLE LOTTA BILLS FANS COMPLAINING ABOUT HIM THIS SEASON. He’s been below average in this, his 2nd season. Below average by PFF too.

    Just sayin’.

    Put an average QB in there and this team isn’t even .500.

  41. The Analytical Kid says:
    December 13, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    White, Dawkins, Milano (not a 3-down LB because he sucks at run D, contributing to that poor ranking) were all pre-Beane.

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    No. These players are not “pre-Beane”. Beane drafted ALL of them.

  42. mackcarrington says:
    December 13, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    No. These players are not “pre-Beane”. Beane drafted ALL of them.

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    WRONG!

    ALL were from the 2017 Draft. Beane was not on board for that one.

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