Josh Allen for MVP?

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With Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes not playing in Week 17, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers presumably has locked down the 2020 NFL MVP award. During Wednesday’s PFT PM, Charean Williams suggested another candidate for the award.

Josh Allen.

Why not Josh Allen? The Bills quarterback has had a phenomenal year, with 4,320 passing yards and 43 total touchdowns (34 passing, eight rushing, one receiving). The team has nailed down the division previously owed by the Patriots with a 12-3 record, an unexpected improvement over last year’s wild-card one-and-done routine.

Rodgers has been phenomenal, too. He has 44 touchdown passes and three rushing touchdowns, with 4,059 passing yards and a ridiculous passer rating of 119.4.

Rodgers has become the overwhelming favorite for the award; PointsBet currently has his odds at -500. Allen is a +1200 proposition.

But here’s the key: Human beings vote on this one, and the vote comes after Sunday’s games. What if the Packers lose to the Bears? What if Allen starts for Buffalo and continues his recent tear?

Rodgers continues to be the smart pick, and it will be an upset if he doesn’t win it. But Allen is worthy of some consideration for the award, before the ballots are cast.

At a minimum, he’s worthy of being named the NFL’s most improved player. That’s a category that isn’t currently among the postseason awards. Maybe it should be.

For now, it’s MVP or nothing for Allen. While Rodgers likely will win it, it’s hard to argue against Allen’s case for the prize.

26 responses to “Josh Allen for MVP?

  1. It’s Aaron’s award.

    MOST valuable player.

    I don’t see the debate. Don’t tread on Rodgers.

  2. Voting for NFL MVP before the playoffs start is as silly as voting on the Heisman while bowl games are still going on. The implosion we saw from Kyle Trask last night could happen in the NFL playoffs too, though maybe not on quite that scale. In any case why not see which players play best in the games that count the most before giving out the awards? There’s no reason a player’s entire season of work shouldn’t factor in.

  3. The stats between Rodgers and Mahomes are pretty close with Mahomes doing it against a tougher schedule. He is 4-0 against teams in the top 8 including a win over the Bills. Allen has had a great year, but Mahomes is the MVP.

  4. It would be hard to say that either the Packers or Bills would be where they are without their QB’s playing as such.

    Really will come down to how the individual voter defines “MVP” I think.

    That said – when I look at what AR is doing, at his age, with a team that has NOT added offensive talent since a mid season firing of a SB winning coach – it’s impressive.

  5. bassplucker says:

    December 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    Voting for NFL MVP before the playoffs start is as silly as voting on the Heisman while bowl games are still going on. The implosion we saw from Kyle Trask last night could happen in the NFL playoffs too, though maybe not on quite that scale. In any case why not see which players play best in the games that count the most before giving out the awards? There’s no reason a player’s entire season of work shouldn’t factor in.
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    Because it’s not a postseason award, its who is the regular season MVP so to take into account anything that happens after or before the season would be wrong.

  6. If the Pack beats Chicago, and Aaron has a so-so day and Allen or whomever is MVP, I’m a happy man because NOTHING out-weighs beating the Bears.

  7. golforepar says:
    December 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm
    Allen has 9 INTs this season Rodgers has 9 in the last 2 seasons!!

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    Ints are an overrated stat when it comes to defining good qb play. Many picks come from wr running wrong routes and more importantly deflecting the ball. One of the MANY reasons Arodg continues to be the most overrated player in the nfl to date.

  8. I’m glad he’s in the conversation. He would have been MORE in the conversation if he hadn’t taken the league by surprise this year. People are sort of just catching up.

    I love AR, too, and would be happy to see him get it.

    It’s really not a big deal. Either guy would much rather hoist the Lombardi, I’m sure – but it’s fun to get the recognition for a job well done.

  9. You aint nothing without a good; consistent, smart QB under center. Until then have fun watching the postseason on the couch.

  10. Aaron Rogers continues to pad his stats each week, he’s thrown more TD passes inside the five yard line than all the other NFL Qb’s in the league.

  11. golforepar says:
    December 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm
    Allen has 9 INTs this season Rodgers has 9 in the last 2 seasons!!
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    Over the past two seasons Josh Allen has had (6) 4th quarter comeback’s and (8) Game winning drives compared to Rodgers (3) 4th quarter comeback’s and (5) game winning drives.

  12. EJ says:
    December 31, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    Over the past two seasons Josh Allen has had (6) 4th quarter comeback’s and (8) Game winning drives compared to Rodgers (3) 4th quarter comeback’s and (5) game winning drives.
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    Over the last 2 seasons the Packers have won a total of 26 games, so your telling me Rodgers should be punished in this debate because he plays for a team that doesn’t frequently fall behind late in the game?

    And, in fact, by his play, helps stake his team to a lead that’s insurmountable in a lot of those contests.
    It’s a dumb barometer to use in accessing skill at the QB position.
    Especially when your weighing a QB that already wins frequently.
    125-63-1 regular season to date.

    Josh Allen is an agile, strong armed QB that is having a very good year, and he most definitely should be in the general conversation for MVP.
    He has a very bright future.
    But, as of today, I still think it’s Aaron’s award to lose with Patrick close on his heels.

  13. Rodgers is older, seasoned and IMMENSELY respected.. Yes, he is playing great.
    Mahomes is young, and incredible skills, wears a ring and benefits from trusted coaching and loads and loads of talent around him.

    Allen has put in immeasurable amounts of off season work and turned disciplined refinement into reality, and has done the almost impossible..permanently fixing ones footwork, and performing consistently under pressure without falling back into the old problems…. Not only is he the biggest mystery among the three, but in IMO, his value toward the positive, his gunslinging mentality and his contribution to the locker room culture, positive leadership that now engulfed Buffalo.. this is the definition of the Most Valuable Player. His humble and obvious humble demeanor has won over the country.
    This is the leagues MVP for the 2020 season.

  14. Josh has about 500 yards rushing, too. Its about time someone nationally finally figured it out. Josh Allen is far and away the most deserving candidate this year. Rogers is great and Mahomes is right there, too, but Josh’s rushing and passing made him the more valuable Most Valuable Player in 2020.

  15. Allen is a great QB and he is going to get better. (To bad Patriots) Should he be MVP this year? No ’nuff said.

  16. Aaron Rogers continues to pad his stats each week, he’s thrown more TD passes inside the five yard line than all the other NFL Qb’s in the league.
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    He’s also got more passes of 20+ yards than any qb on the league…

  17. No doubt that all the work Allen has done in the offseason is paying off…and he’s been helped by the addition of a receiver of the caliber of Stefon Diggs..I sill remember when he came from the Vikings and the naysayers were predicting that shortly into the season he would be complaining and asking for a trade since Josh wasn’t going to be able to deliver the ball to him repeatedly because of the lack of accuracy in his passes…If the Bills can keep most of the players in the fold, this combo alone augurs great things for the future of the franchise…GO BILLS…!!!

  18. No argument with Rodgers winning it ultimately, although literally every QB that’s had a season in line with what Allen’s having (4,700+ total yards and 43+ TDs through 15 games) has won the award, so that’s something.

    If nothing else, Allen should be the offensive player of the year. He even has a receiving TD in addition to the 34 passing and 8 rushing tuds

  19. Please.

    Let’s not put Josh Allen in Canton just yet.

    His record so far is 12-3, including two wins against New England. If New England doesn’t suck this year, there’s two wins that become losses, and the Bills are 10-5.

    My point is that Josh Allen wasn’t the difference in those two games, he’s the beneficiary of Bill Belichick having a truly sucky season.

    Is Allen good? Sure. Is he “MVP” good? Hardly. It’s an insult to Patrick Mahomes to even suggest it

  20. golforepar says:
    December 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm
    Allen has 9 INTs this season Rodgers has 9 in the last 2 seasons!!

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    Against the Phins secondary he might pick up another 3 or 4 INT’s and add a few sacks to the mix, it could get ugly in Buffalo this weekend. Miami 43 Buffalo 16.

  21. When analyzing performance, you have to look at level of competition. Every week we talk about Team A should beat Team B because here’s what kind of teams they are. You always hear analysts say, “it was a great win, but lets see what they do against a better team”. We heard this all about the Bills early on in the year. Well….here we are. Josh Allen has played 7 games against top passing defenses. I think he’s 7-0. Rodgers has played against 2 top passing defenses. Mahomes has played against 4. Allen is tied with Mahomes as having the most 4th quarter comebacks (and it should be one more without the Hail Murry). He has been lights out, down the stretch in prime time. His QBR is right there with the other two, but his body of work has been more impressive

  22. GB is the NFL’s winningest franchise. Pro team. Buffalo is Khalil Mack’s alma mater. No call comparison here. NFL > College.

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