Report: “Many Eagles players and coaches were shocked and outraged” by removal of Jalen Hurts

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The Eagles have plenty of work to do to repair the external damage done by Sunday night’s apparent decision to deliberately lose to Washington. They also apparently have plenty of work to do to repair the internal damage.

Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that “many Eagles players and coaches were shocked and outraged” by the decision to remove quarterback Jalen Hurts for Nate Sudfeld in the second half of the Week 17 game.

Per the report, two defensive players “had to be held back” from confronting coach Doug Pederson. McLane also reports that center Jason Kelce (pictured) and another offensive starter approach Pederson for an explanation as to the move.

Pederson explained after the loss that he was trying to win the game. On Monday, Pederson gave a rambling non-answer when asked again about the perception that the Eagles weren’t trying to secure a victory that would have knocked Washington out of the playoffs and would have delivered the NFC East title to the Giants.

The incident puts a dark cloud over the team at the conclusion of a lost season. Clearing it away will require plenty of frank and candid conversations. Ultimately, Pederson may have to admit to his players (at a minimum, to his team leaders) that the goal was to enhance the team’s draft position or, possibly, to take steam out of potential push to make Hurts the starter in 2021, allowing the team to make a more reasoned and deliberate decision as to the quarterback position next season, given their belief that Carson Wentz‘s poor season may have been an aberration.

The Eagles benefited significantly from pandemic protocols that keep reporters out of the locker room in the raw and real moments after a game. Still, this problem hasn’t quickly gone away — and the Eagles have offered up nothing in the aftermath of the game to reduce the discontent arising from the apparently deliberate decision to not try to beat Washington in the final game of the 2020 regular season.

152 responses to “Report: “Many Eagles players and coaches were shocked and outraged” by removal of Jalen Hurts

  1. Man, who cares now. The game is over, the coach did what he did and it’s time to move on from this unnecessary drama for crying out loud.

  2. There are so many clips of Eagles players following the mantra from their coach and not even trying to block for Sudfeld, getting him killed. Once Pederson quit, his players quit on him. That’s dangerous territory…

  3. The trouble with words is that they lose context. Here’s a more accurate portrayal. And the Eagles players facetious said, “we are shocked and outraged”.

  4. Please. This story has been overblown for one reason and one reason only. It implicates the NY football Giants who are in the media center of the country.

    Where is the “outrage” at Mike Tomlin for essentially doing the same thing, which “cost” the Dolphins a playoff spot?

    In order to be tanking, you have to intentionally be trying to lose the game. Like the BC basketball players. Putting in subs isn’t tanking unless you tell them not to give full effort. No evidence of that here.

    Sudfeld played unexpectedly poorly. In his limited PT to date, he has been much better. But no one is suggesting he was told to throw the game.

  5. This is the dumbest drama ever in the NFL.

    Hurts hasn’t been good since team’s started planning for him.

    He was 7-20 72 yards into the 4th quarter of a meaningless Week 17 game they were behind in and got benched, big deal.

    People acting like he was 17-20 372 yards with a 20 point lead before Pederson went, Oh dang, forgot we were supposed to lose this game!

  6. lol held back. What were going to do, beat on him? The team is bad, half are free agents or on the trade block. Wentz and Hurts won two games apiece throwing at 50% clips. Shocked and outraged. Guess those coaches and players can ask for their release. Somehow they managed a Super Bowl win sandwiched between average spans of football. Owner and the front office wanted that pick either for a player or trade plus regardless, they’re eating Wentz’s contract and they definitely need to get younger and cheaper.

  7. This whole thing will blow over within a few weeks. The Giants will use it as motivation when they play the Eagles next season, and they need all the motivation that they can get because the Eagles have completely owned them for years.

  8. Teams “tank” all the time. If players didn’t/don’t realize this was an organizational/”big picture” decision they’re pretty naive. NFL made a BIG mistake making this the national prime time game – when one team had nothing to play for. What if Hurts had torn an ACL in the game – people would be killing the Eagles for playing him (especially since they’re trading Wentz). That’s why they sat Sanders, Goddert, etc. And that was the smart move. Eagles job – as an organization – was to look to next season, since this season was dead to them. Mission accomplished.

  9. Why is it that all of a sudden the players are considered about winning football games when it was a week 17 of a MEANINGLESS game? We all know the Eagles were trying to tank for a higher draft pick, that’s no secret. Of course Pederson isn’t going to say that publicly. But this entire organization, from the ownership down to the players have done a horrible job this season. So don’t act like you care about winning now when you didn’t do your job all season long.

  10. Seems to me like Pederson received instruction from above to lose this game and he would be guaranteed to return next year. There will be no discipline from the league office and the cash value of moving from 9 up to 6 will justify the decision. Pederson had to have been given assurance that he wouldn’t get canned this year to have gone along. Without that assurance he wouldn’t probably wouldn’t have been on board. It’s a foolish way to tank. To not call attention to the obvious, Sudfield should have started the game. Then you fall way behind early and when your in a deep enough hole maybe you bring in Hurts and cut the deficit a little and look like you trying to pull the game out.

  11. Hey dumb dumbs, nobody thought Hurts was playing great, but not dressing Wentz and putting in a scrub is terrible optics.

  12. As an Eagles fan I hope this sentiment gains traction and Doug eventually gets the ax. Shameful.

  13. maybe the giants should have thought about winning 8 games. reach to win as many games as you lose.

  14. There is not a team in the NFC East that deserves to be in the playoff’s.

    The fact that Washington with a 7-9 record is now the 4th seed and gets a home game is a disgrace.

  15. Pre-Game decision to “rest” players in a game where your team is not impacted by the outcome is different that substituting the starting QB in 4th Quarter when behind by 3 points, with a 4th yrar, 4th string QB that you & everyone knew was not going to win the game. The 3 previous quarters the players on offense, defense and special teams had put “it on the line” to compete and try to win the game. This is their profession and they were playing hard to win. When the coach made the late game change it was clearly to stop being competative, lose the game and it was sucessful. When Steelers & other teams deactivate players in meaningless games, those players who play still prepare, practice and gameplane in a combined effort to compete to win. Thats’ not what happened here and it was wrong.

    I had a stake in the game, too. Not as a fan of either team, but as a fan of the NFL and a person who was invested in the game for 3 quarters, watching. I wanted the Eagles to lose, but the way it was accomplished took away the satisfaction I would have had, seeing them lose, & the Giants get bounced. The only solace I really enjoyed was that the Cowboys were already hurting from the earlier loss.

  16. As someone previously stated Hurts wasn’t lighting it up.
    7/20 = 72 QBR = 44.5 RTG = 25.4

  17. As an eagles fan, with all the not holding Howie accountable and now this, i may not be able to be a fan of this team anymore. I’m really quite done with the arrogance of the people running this team. I find the that group to be really hard to route for. Its just one thing after another and anytime they get called out by the media they act all high and mighty like they invented football. They lucked into a superbowl and act like they are the Patriots. “Gold standard” “QB factory”

    It’s hard to be an Eagles fan these days.

  18. This damage is irreparable.

    Doug still wants Wentz to be starter so can’t let Hurts look good hence wierd playcalling. Winning against Washington on primetime would have been one of those cases.

  19. kevin7777777 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:45 am
    “Pederson had to have been given assurance that he wouldn’t get canned this year to have gone along. ”
    _____________________________________________________________
    makes you kid of wonder now, the timing of Schwartz’ notice to not return, and why his contract was allowed to “expire”.

  20. i dont see what the big deal is?
    the eagles can move up in the draft with a loss to get better talent to win in the future because we all can see this season is completely over.

    i have no problem with it and id do it without a second thought if owned the team.

    having said that….HAHAHAHA LOLOLOL the giants are upset the eagles didn’t win so they could make the playoffs?????

    gimmee an effing break!! had you taken care of your OWN BUSINESS during the season you wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with!

    you expect a team that hasnt played well all season to win a meaningless game so that you
    can make the playoffs???

    serves you right to put your destiny in the hands of another team

    MAN UP LADIES!!!

  21. HURTS HAD 70 YARDS AFTER 3 QUARTERS. Why are we even talking about this? Oh that’s right because a 6 win team didn’t make the playoffs, and this is the everyone gets a trophy people crying.. Right my bad

  22. When the whole division has only won 23 games in total, they should all quietly disappear and regroup for next year. The NFC East is a shambles and the last week of the season proved it, along with the fall out.

  23. If the nfl cared about integrity it would fine the eagles three draft slots and have them pick where they would have once they won. Drop them to ninth and end of discussion. But they won’t

    Keep this up and the nfl will join the nhl and nba with draft lotteries

  24. If the nfl cared about integrity it would fine the eagles three draft slots and have them pick where they would have once they won. Drop them to ninth and end of discussion.

    Keep this up and the nfl will join the nhl and nba with draft lotteries

  25. Pederson coaches the Eagles.
    Pederson’s job is to do what is best for the Eagles (not NY, not Dallas, not Washington).
    Pederson’s team was out of the playoffs before kickoff.
    Pederson did what was in the best interest of the Eagles.
    How did Pederson commit malpractice if it results in his patient getting better?

    p.s. if you win more than 6 games in a season, we are not even having this discussion.

  26. The move at QB can be questioned until the cows come home, but winning couldn’t have been the reason. True it is that Hurts wasn’t lighting it up at that point. Had a crowd been there, they would have booed him out of Philly at halftime. the game was close enough to win and Pederson made a change, albeit the wrong one. Had Wentz been dressed and put in the game, the change may not have been received as poorly (though I think it’s a fair assumption that the end result, a loss, would have been the same). I think Philly fans should be upset that with them not dressing Wentz, it signaled that for better or worse this was Hurts game to operate, which ended up not being the case. Hurts and the Eagles missed out on a chance to get something good on tape in terms of trying to navigate a fourth quarter come back, all because of their coaches nine head move. That kind of tape is something that would have been purposeful in evaluating things.

  27. Actually the 4th and goal at the 4 yard line was a worse decision

    I saw the footage, there was zero pass protection and no quarterback was going to play well

  28. Hurts had a few nice plays in the first half, but after the second touchdown, just a lot of punts and short hopping a wide open receiver in the end zone on fourth down. Sudfeld was a gamble that did not work, but it was not as though Hurts was setting the field on fire with his play. The Eagles lose either way.

  29. “…given their belief that Carson Wentz‘s poor season may have been an aberration.”

    I would say Wentz’s one good season, that ended with Foles having to deliver the Super Bowl victory, was probably the aberration.

  30. To njbill, your comparison is nonsense. There is no connection to resting a team’s starters for playoff game, which is done every single year in the NFL, and was done by the Chiefs this year, with pulling the team’s best performing quarterback for fear that he might lead the team to a comeback victory.

  31. It was an odd move for sure. But at the same time you may as well see what you have in hum during a meaningless game. You were either doing Washington or NY a favor no matter what you did/didn’t do. It wasn’t like their QB was Peyton Manning out for a season with a neck injury. THAT’S tanking.

  32. I believe Howie Roseman instructed Doug Peterson to lay down. Howie’s job is hanging by a thin thread. He’s the one who is mostly responsible for the mess the Eagles are in. If he can improve his chances to redeem himself, he’s going to do it even if it puts his coach in a uncomfortable situation. Doug knows from being a player that losing the game on purpose will make his job harder because his players will lose respect for him. We may never know the truth.

  33. I love the Eagles fans justifying this. They used to be a tough bunch that wouldn’t tolerate throwing a game. Is this something Chuck Bednarik would be OK with?

  34. njbill—– What you are describing is not the same thing Pederson did. Teams rest their players when they have secured a place in the Playoffs. The backup players who play will have spent the week preparing to play. So even though some players are resting, the players who practiced have a full week of preparation so they can win the game.

    First, Wentz wasn’t even dressed and then he puts in a backup QB cold who had no practice reps. When your online sucks and your receivers are dropping passes, you don’t insert a left mobile and less accurate QB to make the team better. Personally, I could care less about the Eagles but what Pederson did was jeopardize all the work the players put in for the week. He has lost that locker room and unless he trades or cuts all the players who felt betrayed, he will never get that locker room back.

  35. njbill says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:23 am

    Where is the “outrage” at Mike Tomlin for essentially doing the same thing, which “cost” the Dolphins a playoff spot?

    *******************************************************************************

    Resting key starters, including an aging QB coming off elbow surgery, in a near-meaningless game so they’re healthy for the playoffs VS. inexplicably benching an up-and-coming rookie QB in the 4th quarter of a 3-pt game. Not sure what mental gymnastics you’re performing to equate those two things, but OK.

    Also, Miami did a lot more to cost themselves a playoff spot than Tomlin resting players during the last game of the year.

  36. The Philadelphia fan response is basically, “So what? we tanked and disregarded the integrity of the game. Everyone does it. We play by Philadelphia Rules. Only the Eagles matter!” The people who wagered their money did not know that Philadelphia Rules applied to the game. The refs apparently didn’t know that Philadelphia Rules applied or they would have thrown a flag in every successful Eagles play (hopefully they will in 2021). The NFL didn’t know or they would never have scheduled a national game with Philadelphia on the field. Does anyone think Philadelphia will get national games next year? Or during Lurie’s ownership? The Eagles fans have made their point as has the team. You play by your own rules; integrity of the game doesn’t apply to you. Disgusting. Simply disgusting.

  37. This is going to poison the locker room. Go back and look at Kelce’s comments about winning at all costs and organizations that aren’t become loser organizations. A week later and the org does everything Kelce railed against. Not a good look and players will take notice.

  38. Oh, how the mighty have fallen in Philly. A few years removed from the Superbowl and all the wheels are coming off the bus!

  39. To get paid millions of dollars to play a game, while millions of others suffer, go without food, medical attention, a roof over their head. To be tested daily so his players and their loved ones are safe from a global pandemic which has taken over a million lives. Who is this wack job whiner? How disrespectful, disheartening, disgusting is this rant by this spoiled little brat.. Perfect example of why football will slowly pack it in. The game at every level is in decline, youth football is shrinking. I love watching this sport, but at the end of the day, this is about a bunch of billionaires paying a bunch of millionaires to play a game. Know your place and stop acting like your plight is bigger than the millions who watch you play. Hopefully this rant will melt away in the landscape, because it will just add fuel to the fire of what is wrong with pro sports.

  40. The Giants swept Washington and still couldn’t win as many games. They have no one to blame but them selves.

  41. You guys have the MOST drama around your quarterbacks, see Foles. No doubt Wentz will excel elsewhere, just gotta get out of this circus first! Learn something about loyalty eagle fans..

  42. If anyone thinks that anyone will remember this come next season they’re crazy.
    It’s blatantly obvious the call came from above

  43. Maybe it wasn’t done properly in the competitive spirit of the game and it’s sure to leave a dark mark on the franchise for years to come but in the grand scheme of things, Pederson being a former player and current head coach most likely would do anything to win so I’m in aggreance with kevin777777, probably instructed or strongly advised to make the move..

  44. Jalen Hurts in that game: 7/20 for 72 yds, 1 pick, zero passing tds, 25.4 qbr. Meanwhile, Tomlin sits starters for an ENTIRE GAME against the Browns and no one says a word. Ridiculous non story here folks.

  45. Other teams need to handle their business and not rely on the results of other games.

  46. A classless move, typical.
    The Giants went all out in the last game against the Pats during the 07-08 season and lost a great game, and then went on the win the Super Bowl.
    The Giants have class, Philly is Philly.

  47. Fake outrage. Much like the giants team that lost 10 games and wanted a free handout and didn’t get it.

  48. Where is the “outrage” at Mike Tomlin for essentially doing the same thing, which “cost” the Dolphins a playoff spot?

    —————-

    Tomlins team was already in. I’m fact, he already said he was resting them 5 days before the game. Big difference.

  49. When the General quits on the battlefield his soldiers will never follow him in battle again. Bye Bye Pederson and take that rancid GM Howie Roseman with you as well.

  50. Pederson trolled the league.
    Maybe next time the league doesn’t flex a team whose season is over.

  51. “He was 7-20 72 yards into the 4th quarter of a meaningless Week 17 game they were behind in and got benched, big deal.”

    You forgot to mention he rushed for two TD’s….

  52. Pederson lied about trying to win the game. Now the question is was he TOLD to do this by someone above him or is he that dumb that he thinks people will just accept his lying answer?

  53. If he had just started Sudfeld and rested Hurts, I wonder if there would be such an uproar. Is it really that different than Pittsburgh sitting key starters, which pretty much put the Browns in the playoffs? Everybody knew that going into the game, so no real uproar.

  54. I’d bet if it was the Cowboys who were depending on the Eagles to win, this move probably would have been praised all across America…

  55. Yet the Steelers got to choose to play the Browns instead of the Colts by benching their starters and nobody is saying a word. Amazing how some teams just get a pass in this league

  56. Are we still crying about this??!!
    This is like low hanging fruit reporting that is irrelevant….. what’s done is done & 6-10 is 6-10…… every trash team can’t be in the playoffs, or just make it like Hockey!!!

  57. Were all of the Steelers players “shocked and outraged” when Tomlin sat Big Ben?

  58. “schmedley69 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:32 am
    This whole thing will blow over within a few weeks. The Giants will use it as motivation when they play the Eagles next season, and they need all the motivation that they can get because the Eagles have completely owned them for years”
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    If Engram doesn’t drop an easy pass, Giants win in Week 7. And Giants won in 10. You’re not as plugged in as you think.

  59. It’s pretty simple Giant’s,WIN more games and you wouldn’t have to worry about it.

  60. I am shocked and outraged at the comments here. Are there no more ethics?
    No game is meaningless to the players who play. They play for each other, they sacrifice and give everything they’ve got for each other — not for draft picks, and not for the commenters here.

    IF Peterson tanked — and even the defenders of this tanking admit he did — then the players FEEL that. That is a betrayal to the locker room. It represents the short term thinking that is rampant in our culture.

    You play win the game. You breathe to live.

  61. Does anyone think that when Philly is on the clock to take the sixth pick in the draft that anyone will be saying, “Man, I really wish we’d won that final game against Washington?” Philly did the right thing for it’s future. Call them a disgrace if you want, but I bet Jets fans are wishing their team had been a disgrace and secured the number one pick.

  62. The Eagles organization looks in the mirror and sees the smartest team in the league. They win one Super Bowl and build a statue of themselves. Maybe they can build a statue of Pederson sending Sudfeld into the game. That would be a more accurate reflection of the state of the organization.

  63. It’s mind-blowing and shows a serious lack of football IQ of those trying to compare this situation to Mike Tomlin resting some key starters and which he still had his team trying to play to win.

  64. Jalen Hurts had a passer rating of 25 after 3 quarters when he got pulled from the game, he completed 7 passes, he is not any good. No outrage for the Steelers? Chiefs? those teams also tanked their last games of the year. Also, the Eagles dont owe the NY Giants a thing, they had nothing to play for and can play all the young players they want to give them some experience. This is just NYC Media outrage

  65. It’s not about the Giants … it’s about sportsmanship and integrity. Players are paid millions to compete, sponsors pay millions to advertise, networks pay millions to air the games and millions watch. It’s a rivalry game, and the Eagles players were playing hard trying to spoil Washington’s season. What more motivation do they need? Washington had everything to play for. It was a good game for 3 quarters then Pederson tanked it. If the Eagles had played to win, and still lost, you wouldn’t hear a peep from Giants fans or anyone else, because regardless of the crappy record, Washington would have earned the division and rightfully so. The whole thing was shameful.

  66. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Nice way to distract from the fact that the Eagles won 4 games this year. They were, in a word, pathetic.

  67. someonestolesociofan says:
    January 5, 2021 at 3:51 am
    Pederson coaches the Eagles.
    Pederson’s job is to do what is best for the Eagles (not NY, not Dallas, not Washington).
    Pederson’s team was out of the playoffs before kickoff.
    Pederson did what was in the best interest of the Eagles.
    How did Pederson commit malpractice if it results in his patient getting better?
    ——————————————————————————————
    BECAUSE he blatantly lied saying “I coached to win the game”…THAT IS THE ISSUE.

  68. Is this that much different than what Pittsburgh did? Their game with the Browns absolutely had playoff implications. Plus, stop crying Giants fans – win more than 6 games and then come talk to me. This is why you don’t leave your fate in someone else’s hands.

  69. The NFL needs to investigate. If Petersen did in fact lose on purpose then he needs to be suspended AND their draft pick needs to be taken away.

  70. This is just another chunk of confidence gone in Doug Pederson. His players won’t soon forget that he sold them out. He’s done for in Philly. If they go back to Wentz I’d expect a full revolt on that team.

  71. well,we now find it wasnt a team conspiracy among the coaches and the players that the Eagles purposely lose to Washington last Sunday,only a cruel(to many) decision by the head coach and no doubt the owner of the team to throw the game for a higher draft pick,thats indeed refreshing as its nice to see nfl players still have some pride.the Eagles need a new head coach with some integrity and desire to win EVERY game on their schedule.

  72. Let me start off by saying I hate the Patriots as much as the next guy. But … They lost a 1st round pick, fine a million bucks, and their starting QB suspended 4 games because they doctored the balls after inspected by game day officials. I personally couldnt care less that they did that, but if the league came down that hard on them for that, what will do for the Eagles? I’m not saying that much, because I believe NE got that harsh of a sentence due to previous cheating allegations, but they got that much for damaging the “integrity” of the game. A punishment only seems fair.

  73. For those ripping on Jalen Hurts, just remember that he was responsible for the Eagle’s only 2 TD’s. He is better than Wentz.

  74. There doesn’t have to be a conspiracy here. Pederson said leading up to the game that he wanted to give Sudfeld some snaps. The game didn’t matter. Hurts wasn’t lighting it up. He gave Sudfeld a chance in a meaningless game.

    What does matter is how the rest of the team perceives it. If this report is true, that was a terrible decision by Pederson and he likely lost respect with a chunk of the team which is a much bigger deal.

  75. “Every team in the NFC betrayed the game of football this year.”

    And just why do you believe that? it makes zero sense to say that,give us some proof of your belief.what teams in the NFC betrayed the game of football this year except the Eagles? was it the 13-3 or 12-4 teams that played to win and did? get real man.

  76. Maybe the players should have directed that negative energy to the opponent. Might have a few more wins.

  77. Players had to be held back?! If they played with that kind of intensity for the first 16 games maybe they would have won more than four. If Hurts completes close to 50 percent of his passes, maybe he stays in the game? I know this is the kind of drama NFL media needs and I understand it, but the flip side is the Eagles players need to wake up and realize they are not a good football team. Time to clean house, like the Seahawks did when the Legion of Boom started to get old and Michael Bennett thought he should be the head coach. Seahawks are the two seed this year, instead of being in an endless death spiral.

  78. There isn’t enough explaining available. I’d either want out or Pederson out. Playing not to lose is tactical. Playing to lose is unforgivable.

  79. Nbc and the NFL should of had the Cardinals Rams game on. Both needed to win to get make the playoffs. No tanking there!

  80. Did anyone from the NFL actually watch any of the Eagles games this year? The Defense played really well but the offense looked horrible. It has been the Eagles MO all season. If Doug was trying to tank, it did not look like it. It looked like the Eagles looked all season long. Doug said, before the game, he was going to play Sudfeld….and he did. Why was this such a shock? He played Sudfeld against Dallas in 2017 on week 17 as well….No outrage there. Why is this different? Was he tanking then? Nope, you cant say that because they were play-off bound. Other than that, there was no difference.
    I think the Talking heads of the NFL expected the NYG to sneak into the playoffs and they were crossing their fingers that the Eagles played their hearts out to get them there. Well….Sorry, dont put your season hopes on a team with a bigger incentive to lose.

  81. fourmoreyeartrump2020 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 7:59 am
    Yet the Steelers got to choose to play the Browns instead of the Colts by benching their starters and nobody is saying a word. Amazing how some teams just get a pass in this league
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    LOL. Apparently the Bills, who owned the second seed, must have “wanted” to play the Colts. They played lights out to beat the Dolphins, therefore, they must think the Colts are a pushover. Or, no, I got it, they wanted to make sure they knocked the Fins out of the playoffs because they were afraid to play them when it really matters. The comparison of what went on with the Eagles and any other team preparing for the playoffs, and playing a virtually meaningless game, is like comparing apples to oranges.

  82. Did Kelce get mad for throwing the ball in the dirt more than once- they could’ve won. No one instructed them to lose. They had 3qtr to beat a losing team. The right move for a coach in a hard place who had all of their backs all season!

  83. I’m confused… people are acting like Jalen Hurts was dominating and leading the team to victory, when suddenly the rug was pulled out from under him. He was having an extremely bad game. Thinking the 3rd stringer would fare better was silly, but it’s not like the Eagles were driving to a clear or likely victory and then had their coach pull over and turn off the car…

  84. The coach of a team that’s going nowhere has bigger fish to fry.

    He has to know what they have at QB because it’s clear that Wentz is not likely in thier future. And he was a healthy scratch BEFORE the game (where are the complains about that?!). He needed to know #1 if they other guy could play and if the team would respond to him.

    As for the Giants and those sympathizing for the, the way to win the division is to win more games than he other teams, period! Not one word should be uttered about what some other city’s team did or didn’t do for them. That’s pathetic!

    All of

  85. The comic twist to all of this is that Nate sudfeld was a draft pic of the Redskins.
    I don’t think he ever played a regular season down in an NFL game
    For them.

  86. A meaningful loss vs a meaningless win…
    The soldiers wanted quick satisfaction. The generals went for a future reward.
    Once that 6th seed is on the field, training and showing his skills, all of those disgruntle players and coaches will suffer amnesia -as well as this website.
    Go 2021 Eagles!!!

  87. Eagles last 5 drives with Jalen Hurts
    1. 3 plays, 0 yards – punt
    2. 2 plays, 7 yards – end of half
    3. 3 plays, 7 yards – punt
    4. 8 plays, 30 yards – punt
    5. 7 plays, 11 yards – turnover on downs
    That’s 23 plays for 55 yards with 3 punts and a turnover on downs.

  88. BECAUSE he blatantly lied saying “I coached to win the game”…THAT IS THE ISSUE.

    —————————————————————

    “Blatantly lying” and “blatantly lying to the media” aren’t the same thing. All caps or not, it’s not a big issue, post-game coaches and players aren’t obligated to divulge, they’re obligated to show up.

    Fact is there was no way he’d come clean. I don’t agree with what he did, but the loophole is there and will remain there until the league chooses to close it. Goodell has a long history of arbitrarily doling out punishment to “protect the shield”, and I’m quite certain if the players organized themselves to throw a game there’d be hell to pay. But I think it’s clear the order came from on high and Goodell won’t dare challenge one of his employers.

    A Giants fan needs to dig up something to suggest Pederson had money on the game and blow the whole thing up.

  89. “He only completed seven of twenty passes.”

    Thanks for the analytics. He also ran for 2 touchdowns.

  90. Mutiny! Good luck next year Pederson. If management made him do it, throw them under the bus soon, if not resign.

  91. Loss of their 1st round draft pick and Pederson suspended for the first 8 games of 2021.

  92. Everyone that’s attacking Hurts for his poor play, conveniently leaves out the fact that he scored 2 rushing TDs.

  93. heLLpaso says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:59 am
    Hey dumb dumbs, nobody thought Hurts was playing great, but not dressing Wentz and putting in a scrub is terrible optics.

    This comment nails it. The Eagles kind of stink. Pederson probably should get canned, but he has some cache from their SB win left, apparently. Losing the game nets better draft positioning and they need as much help as they can get. They are rebuilding there. Only the Lurie family can decide if they want to have coaching be a part of that rebuild right now.

  94. Not an Eagles fan, but I would be concerned that Pederson has lost the locker room and if the culture is already untrusting, not willing to play all out for him (Pederson), it won’t matter when or who you draft. nNew rookies coming in will be impacted and swept into a losing culture. It was a lose-lose. It will take now a clean sweep and time to repair. Which may have been the ownerships plan all along without losing fan support.

  95. Hurts scored 2 touchdowns in second quarter so just because he had a bad first and third quarter has no bearing how he would play in 4th we saw him throw for 350 yards vs cardinals and cowboys he could have easily beaten Washington the game should have been tied if they kicked field goal

  96. trollaikman8 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 11:02 am
    “He only completed seven of twenty passes.”

    Thanks for the analytics. He also ran for 2 touchdowns.

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    With a QBR of 25.4. So we’ve established he’s fast but can’t do much else.

  97. Not many quarterbacks who throw for less than 100 yards in a game win games, even if they run for TDs. Just ask Cam Newton.

  98. I suspect Joe Judge is complaining because he has a clause in his contract to be paid a bonus if the Giants make the playoffs. BTW, who outside of NY even knows who Joe Judge is?

  99. Vikings and Lions had nothing to play for. Both those teams played hard. Eagles had a better draft pick than the Vikings and picked Reagor over Justin Jefferson and ended up with a worse record 🤷‍♂️

  100. I have no issue with what Doug did. Hurts wasn’t playing great and it was a meaningless game for us. Call Doug out all you want, but he said before the game he might put Nate in, even late in a competitive game. He wanted him to play. End of story. And no one seems to be talking about the fact that Hurts reaction to being told Nate was going in was on camera and completely inappropriate. Mouthing “it’s not right” and shaking his head repeatedly? If Wentz did that, he’d be run out of town on a rail.

  101. If you dont get resting an older, beat up starting QB for the playoffs vs. pulling a rookie qb in the 4th quarter of a game that is close to put in Nate Sudfield, cant help you pal.

    I dont care about the Giants or WFT, but this is dangerously close to actually throwing a game and it totally undermines the players.

    ________________terrystown says:
    January 5, 2021 at 7:25 am
    Jalen Hurts in that game: 7/20 for 72 yds, 1 pick, zero passing tds, 25.4 qbr. Meanwhile, Tomlin sits starters for an ENTIRE GAME against the Browns and no one says a word. Ridiculous non story here folks.

  102. It would have been nice if Kelce went over to Sudfeld after he snapped it to his shins, but hey, Kelce is too class for that.

  103. supercharger says:
    January 5, 2021 at 11:06 am
    Loss of their 1st round draft pick and Pederson suspended for the first 8 games of 2021.

    —-

    Should they suspend Mike Tomlin too?

  104. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 7:36 am
    Where is the “outrage” at Mike Tomlin for essentially doing the same thing, which “cost” the Dolphins a playoff spot?

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    Tomlins team was already in. I’m fact, he already said he was resting them 5 days before the game. Big difference.

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    So it’s OK to tank the game if you are “already in” or you “announce it 5 days in advance”? Where is that in the rule book?

  105. Oh the outrage LOL!!! The Skins were trying to give the game away on the last drive. They kept putting the ball on the ground. The Eagles still didn’t want it. Get over it.

  106. ~~~”At the very least, the league should take away the Eagles’ first round pick.”

    I like this a lot, this and fines and suspensions for playing with the integrity of the game!

  107. So he prevented a 6-10 team from making the playoffs? I get it’s a bush league move but, win more games NY Giants!

  108. Can someone at NBC Sports please explain to me what your vested interest is in the NY Giants? It was bad enough that your two commentators spent the entire game actively rooting against Washington so that the Giants would make it in to the playoffs, now your posting this article questioning the integrity of the sport due to Philadelphia’s play. Where is the same level of outrage over Pittsburgh playing an entire game with a backup quarterback, thus giving Cleveland an easier path to enter the playoffs and eliminate Miami. It’s as if you have ownership in the Giants. As a national media company, your job is to be unbiased in broadcasting games. Yet your entire broadcast team kept talking about how Giants fans were being effected. They actively pulled for a Washington loss. Collinsworth made comments such as “We will be talking about this in New York for some time” and Michaels even said at one point when Philadelphia had the ball and a penalty flag was thrown, “You can only hope this is on the defense.” He also said he wanted to breakout his “do you believe in miracles” catchphrase so rooted Philadelphia to make a comeback. I’ve never seen such a one sided national broadcast. Anytime Washington is playing on NBC in the future, I will turn down the sound and listen to the radio broadcast. Any other games broadcast on NBC will have one less viewer, as I will not be watching.

  109. justin7556 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 2:08 pm
    Hurts would have played well in 4th quarter

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    Based on what? He regressed in all 3 games. If you projected his stats over a whole season he’d be one of the worst QBs in the league.

  110. The Eagles defense seemed mostly content to get blown out by Andy Dalton though. Priorities.

  111. 1westcoastfootballfan says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:01 pm
    Not many quarterbacks who throw for less than 100 yards in a game win games, even if they run for TDs. Just ask Cam Newton.

    *******

    He would have thrown for a lot more yards if he played the 4th quarter

  112. Once again, to compare Pederson’s blatant tank job, to the Steelers
    sitting starters in preparation for the playoffs is plain ludicrous.

    The Steelers could not improve their playoff seeding

    Steelers had no Bye-week all season long because of games
    being postponed and re-scheduled. What team needed to rest
    its players more ?

    The Steelers pushed the 11-5 Browns down to the final on-side kick.
    You play to win the game. ( RIP Denny Green )

    Teams sit players in Wk 17 all the time, It’s common practice.
    Blatantly throwing a game, to where even your own players
    question your intentions, is not.

    For Pederson to blatantly lie about it later only compounds the issue.
    It undermines his integrity, and the competitive integrity of the game.

    As somebody smartly pointed out, if it was a bunch of players
    who got together to throw a game, instead of Pederson and
    his superiors, there would be hell to pay.

    I’ve lost a lot of respect for him and the Eagles org.

  113. justin7556 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 3:31 pm
    1westcoastfootballfan says:
    January 5, 2021 at 12:01 pm
    Not many quarterbacks who throw for less than 100 yards in a game win games, even if they run for TDs. Just ask Cam Newton.

    *******

    He would have thrown for a lot more yards if he played the 4th quarter

    ————————

    He gets worse as the games go on so I don’t understand the logic there.

    4th Qtr against NO: 3 possessions 1 TD, Fumble, Time ran out

    4th Qtr against Arizona: Punt, Turnover on downs, Time ran out

    4th Qtr against Dallas: Interception, fumble, interception

    He gets worse as the game goes on so assuming he would have done better makes no sense at all. Hurts just isn’t good.

  114. justin7556 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    Doug called all the plays and foles made a playoff run In 2018 with Doug

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    Mike Groh was the offensive coordinator for the eagles in 2018.

  115. They should be more ‘shocked and outraged’ that they were mathematically eliminated from division contention before week 17 in a year when it nearly went to a 6-10 team.

  116. For those complaining, my word. It’s not like Hurts is good and was playing lights out. He was struggling. Pederson is the same guy who won a Super Bowl and now he is not allowed to make a HC decision?

  117. The shock and outrage should be that the best pass thrown in the game was by the receiver Ward. Jalen Hurts is terrible.

  118. pmlang says:
    January 5, 2021 at 5:24 pm
    justin7556 says:
    January 5, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    Doug called all the plays and foles made a playoff run In 2018 with Doug

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    Mike Groh was the offensive coordinator for the eagles in 2018.

    *********

    Mike groh went 5-6 in 2018 with wentz Doug made a playoff run in 2018 with foles without Reich try again

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