Seahawks fire Brian Schottenheimer

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The Seattle Seahawks are in the market for a new offensive coordinator.

Seattle has fired Brian Schottenheimer, who has been the offensive coordinator since 2018, the team announced today.

“Brian Schottenheimer is a fantastic person and coach and we thank him for the last three years. Citing philosophical differences, we have parted ways,” the team’s statement said.

The 47-year-old Schottenheimer has also been offensive coordinator of the Jets and Rams in addition to a number of other assistant jobs. He’ll land somewhere, although given the way Seattle’s offense stagnated down the stretch in 2020, he may be a tough sell as an offensive coordinator.

Now Seattle will try to find a coordinator who can run an offense that makes the most of Russell Wilson‘s skill set.

65 responses to “Seahawks fire Brian Schottenheimer

  1. Pete may as well be the offensive coordinator, he will just hire another yes man and the offense won’t change…

  2. So when the Seahawks offense falls into the vanilla zone again next year who is Pete going to blame?

  3. How many assistant coaches will have to pay because Russell Wilson is barely average in big postseason games?

  4. Bevell is a strong possibility for Seahawks OC. It would make a lot of sense. He is done in Detroit.

  5. Seattle hit on Pete’s first two drafts, and haven’t done anything since. Their window was open for those first few seasons with the legion of boom, and it ended on that fateful call when Pete tried to make it so that Russell Wilson would get the Superbowl MVP instead of simply handing the ball off to lynch and pounding it home for the win, and the rest is history

  6. I’m hoping the next Coordinator is better than the last two. Look; results are partly based on talented players being drafted, signed in FA, developed in house and managed Ed within the overall CAP space. The Coordinator can help win the games in getting those players organized, ready, coached up and preparing a good game plan. In game adjustments are critical as is having the right stuff as it relates situational awareness. After all of that, lucky breaks, injuries, defensive & Special team play and other issues decide many games.

    However, the eye test was not met this year & the obvious “flatness” observed in the entire final game shows a need for change.

    I’m not going to be surprised if the Defensive Coordinator (who I thought was likely gone at week 8) is let go, as well. Doing so well in the final half of the season means he likely gets another season.

  7. Seattle should find a young, hungry college coach that can be creative with play calling….

  8. Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas were by far more valuable players to the Seahawks than Russell Wilson was and is, and yet the decision was made to pay Wilson instead. That was the beginning of their downfall, and with Wilson being only a barely average postseason QB no amount of coaching changes will fix it or stop it.

  9. Carroll’s quotes about not running the ball enough was a clue of what was coming.

  10. Sigh. This whole philosophy of run, run, pass when you have to, and then run some more works great when you have a stout defense. But our defense ain’t stout. It’s average and will continue to be average or worse as Bobby and KJ and others get older. Conversely, our offense has a guy who could legit be the best WR in football, another really good WR, and a top 5 QB. You gotta change the whole approach to fit your team and Pete is unwilling to do that. I love the guy and he is a fabulous coach, but I don’t really like this move, largely because it is crystal clear to whoever takes the job that you better run the ball 60% of the time if you want to keep your job.

  11. Anyone thinking Pete’s not a great head football coach is nutzo or new to the game .. Top NFC West team for almost a decade .. Sure, some playoff losses but they’re in them ! Name another team or coach that’s done better or been more consistent than BB and NE in last 5-10 years? None .. when the D was terrible half way thru the year he got hands on and clearly there was an improvement as that’s his specialty .. Schotty’s side fell off the wagon .. Now they hire their younger QB guru who could maybe fill Pete’s job in a few years if things pan out, a la Josh McDaniels .. Great and necessary move .. Go ‘Hawks !!

  12. barnwhipple69 says:
    January 12, 2021 at 7:31 pm
    Bevell is a strong possibility for Seahawks OC. It would make a lot of sense. He is done in Detroit.
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    Watch football much? The Seahawks fired him three years ago. Look up “the worst play in SB history.” You’ll find the play that Bevell called.

  13. The Seahawks could help their defense running the ball more but have to get better production from their line while keeping their running backs healthy, which they havent done …

  14. Here is the MAJOR problem, Russell Wilson hangs on to the ball waaaaay too long most of the time. We need an OC that can dial him in to get the ball out faster. You have 2 of the best WR’s in the NFL (DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett) you have to utilize them more and get CREATIVE! An OC that can counter punch on a defense!

  15. Carroll has found everyone to blame except himself. This franchise is a dumpster fire. First they fire Bevell now Schottenheimer. Who’s next? Wilson’s career is being wasted. Perhaps he will request a trade.

  16. For the past few years, the Seahawks acted like Keystone Cops at the end of the half and at the end of games.
    No organized two-minute offense to get their balance back when things don’t go according to plan. They had to rely on Wilson’s scrambling; and halfway through the season all the good defenses were able to contain Russell with their a disciplined front seven and two safeties over the top.
    Let’s not blame Schotty. Look at the incredibly bad use of time outs and coach’s challenges that showed Pete’s lack of organization.

  17. ariani1985 says:
    I would adk for a QB who doesn’t have the height of a modern age 8th grader
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    Your Vikings have one. How’s that working out for them?

  18. I’m starting to think the problem isn’t the OC or DC but the HC. First it was all Bevell’s fault, then Schotty’s. Throughout the year it has been DC Norton under fire for the defense playing so poorly – though they dramatically turned things around down the stretch (although against mediocre offenses). Pete has had a great track record in Seattle and the culture is one that a lot of players love, however I wonder if he is holding some of these coordinators back.

  19. bobhk says:
    January 12, 2021 at 8:24 pm
    Carroll has found everyone to blame except himself. This franchise is a dumpster fire. First they fire Bevell now Schottenheimer. Who’s next? Wilson’s career is being wasted. Perhaps he will request a trade.

    Dumpster fire??

    They won 12 games and their division. Only one team wins the bowl. I remember going many years without making the playoffs. Seattle is in the playoffs every year. Short memories some people have.

  20. Who was responsible for the influence campaign at the beginning of this season to promote Russell Wilson as the MVP?
    If I remember correctly, getting Greg Olsen and Carlos Hyde to complement Lockett, Metcalf and Carson was all designed to help Russell Wilson. The talk was that those acquisitions, Wilson would no longer have excuses for not having offensive weapons.
    He was terrible the second half of the season when they played teams with good defenses and good quarterbacks. I heard people say Russell Wilson field of vision was so bad that he needed glasses!
    Is Russell Wilson the right quarterback for Pete Carroll’s regime?

  21. No other team pumps in artificial booing in their stadium like the Seahawks do. Doesn’t matter if the penalty is a slam dunk against Seattle. “It’s so unfair”, they are saying. Whine, whine, whine and find a way to be unsportsman-like. Now the franchise finds a fall guy. What a team!

  22. How about an OC that can…

    1) Create a play book that takes advantage of Wilson’s strengths. Stop dropping him straight back behind a suspect line. Roll him out…move him.

    2) Can make changes on the fly based on what is working and NOT working during the game.

    3) Creativity

    4) Someone who can call plays that doesn’t make you think he’s wearing a blindfold.

    This offense has been throttled for too many years. So many lost games because the conservative game plan kept the game close and Wilson wasn’t able to save the day. I know this isn’t Carroll’s forte…but I’m hoping he can be flexible and realizes that he has the weapons on offense to make this team really scary.

  23. Now go get Eric Bieniemy and give him the reins to take over HC when PC retires in a few years.

  24. Amazingly, nothing is ever Pete’s fault. At the college or professional level.

  25. Trade Wilson straight up for that crybaby in Houston. Would probably work out for both sides.

  26. But of course none of the sudden offensive drop-off will ever be blamed on “Russ Cook.”

  27. The Seahawks need to make more extensive changes to their coaching philosophy. I don’t really care that Schottenheimer got axed, but the real problem’s more complex than that. We have a great QB whose decision-making declined in the second half of the season. We have an offense who surprised nobody after Week 8. We fell into a “Must Have Big Play” mentality that devalues the importance of sustaining a drive. We don’t innovate; we just lather, rinse, repeat, and fail to convert on 3rd down (or get intercepted). Schottenheimer’s firing may have been necessary, but simply installing Bevell II (or PC II) as OC won’t address the issues we’ve been having since our last Super Bowl appearance.

  28. Some thoughts on the season and reflecting: We’re spoiled to have Pete Carrol. I liked the comment about situational awareness and being coached up. The left defensive end for the Rams showed one mindset in the second half: get to Russel Wilson, and it was clear he wasn’t hesitating about being run blocked and losing ground to a non quarterback coming around the corner. The pedigree and confidence of the Rams defense is like fighting Ivan Drago. Troy Aikman literally said Aaron Donald is the best player he has ever seen. Ramsey let Russel Wilson know how lethal he was back when the Seahawks traveled to Jacksonville and lost a running game slugfest years ago. It’s miraculous what Pete carrol did with the defense this year. I also think it’s worth noting that the Seahawks still have Chance Warmack on contract for next year..

  29. Mike Holmgren offense would look great in Seattle. Wilson, I love him but I think his height is a problem in the offense they’re trying to run. He’s not seeing open receivers and always looking to break the pocket to pass. IDK I may be wrong.

  30. A convenient fall guy for the head coach and the quarterback. Blame the OC when the chef “cooks” up burnt toasts on the field. That is like blaming the stove and/or the frying pan for the burnt toasts.

  31. Ugh, I think they should fire the person that hired Brian or at least keep him away from making the next hire!!

  32. Schotty got fired because John Schneider doesn’t know how to evaluate NFL caliber offensive lineman. Sounds legit. /s

  33. uschawk says:
    January 12, 2021 at 8:40 pm
    bobhk says:
    January 12, 2021 at 8:24 pm
    Carroll has found everyone to blame except himself. This franchise is a dumpster fire. First they fire Bevell now Schottenheimer. Who’s next? Wilson’s career is being wasted. Perhaps he will request a trade.

    Dumpster fire??

    They won 12 games and their division. Only one team wins the bowl. I remember going many years without making the playoffs. Seattle is in the playoffs every year. Short memories some people have.

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    It’s a dumpster fire relative to the expectations one would have for talent you have in Wilson. Watch while this org blows the chance to have multiple championships. They aren’t going anywhere next year either while Wilson gets older.

  34. They need to hire a good young OC that will have more imagination then trying to run more. Yeah, maybe they need to run more since their defense stinks, but…just being able to score consistently will help….the 2nd half of the year they really had issues against good defenses, against rams with an injured QB, they could not stop the run and imploded with mistakes. And that was AFTER they knocked out the starting qb.

    Maybe try to lure Byron Leftwich with the plan for him to take over as head coach once Pete Retires?

  35. fumblenuts says:
    January 12, 2021 at 8:23 pm
    Here is the MAJOR problem, Russell Wilson hangs on to the ball waaaaay too long most of the time. We need an OC that can dial him in to get the ball out faster.
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    Exactly. It took Rodgers a year to adjust, now he may be MVP. Wilson has some pretty good weapons; Lockett is a top 10 WR or better and Metcalf has some otherworldly talents he’s yet to completely harness. Wilson could be scary in a McVay-style offense.

  36. Let’s see, Seattle goes 12-4 and are 8th in scoring. Struggling? Statistically Wilson had one of his best season. 40 TD passes were the most ever (+5). Most ever completions (+31). 2nd most passing yards (-7). The problem with Wilson is that he has taken way too many sacks (he’s 20th all time in just 9 seasons, almost the same number as Drew Brees in half the time). His body is taking a beating. Seattle had no run game, and Wilson’s running around doesn’t really help (but that’s his first instinct).

  37. That’s fine but until they get an OL that can actually block then nothing will change. Same issue for quite a while now.

  38. who should be fired is the guy that can’t get a line or a pass rusher to save his life

  39. icouldcareless says:
    January 12, 2021 at 7:32 pm

    Seattle hit on Pete’s first two drafts, and haven’t done anything since. Their window was open for those first few seasons with the legion of boom, and it ended on that fateful call when Pete tried to make it so that Russell Wilson would get the Superbowl MVP instead of simply handing the ball off to lynch and pounding it home for the win, and the rest is history.

    * * *

    I wish I could upvote this, like, five times.

  40. KeepItReal says:
    January 12, 2021 at 8:14 pm
    barnwhipple69 says:
    January 12, 2021 at 7:31 pm
    Bevell is a strong possibility for Seahawks OC. It would make a lot of sense. He is done in Detroit.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Watch football much? The Seahawks fired him three years ago. Look up “the worst play in SB history.” You’ll find the play that Bevell called.
    —————————————————————————————-
    Everyone knows that Pete made THAT call!!

  41. This reminds me a lot of Green Bay at the end with McCarthy. Their offense is basically Wilson running around with the ball playing hero ball and the receivers all run sandlot routes. Some of it definitely falls on Wilson but I’m sure that if they have the right coaching, like they have now in Green Bay, he can be reigned in and they can start to run an actual NFL offense again.

  42. How can anyone really succeed as an OC in Seattle when so many positive plays are broken down plays that aren’t called.the WR group have it as easy as any in the league, 5-10 seconds to get open, so it’s either a sack or a 30 yard gain.it worked when the best DB’s were lil Russ’ team mates, now the Rams having the best, Russ is being found out. Seahawks regular season record this year was as misleading as the Rams but for opposite reasons.it feels like this year is gonna go down as the last “successful” one for a while.all others in NFC west should be stronger next season.

  43. Having suffered thru Brian as the Jets OC I was never impressed but having played the game (NOT as a Pro) I do sometimes wonder how much a free hand the Coordinators are given?

    Everybody on the coaching staff needs to be in alignment philosophy wise. Coaches have to adjust what they want to do to the personnel they have not try to pound square pegs into round holes. But also the level above you HAS to not micromanage if you are going to succeed.

    Also I think anybody who has watched football for one minute realizes talent at EVERY position makes a huge difference. If you don’t bring in the people a coordinator wants\needs how do you expect him to succeed with the wrong guys (WFT and Haskins being the latest example)?

    I’m not convinced Brian is a good OC but I don’t sit in the Seahawk’s coaches meetings so I don’t know what is going on.

    I spent over 40 years in business and I can tell you an organization fails from the top down not the bottom up. The worst CEOs are those who take the credit when the good times roll and blame everyone else when times are hard. And there have been too many bonehead plays\decisions by the Seahawk’s since Wilson’s first SB too not wonder if the problem is actually not very far down the chain of command.

  44. “They won 12 games and their division. Only one team wins the bowl. I remember going many years without making the playoffs. Seattle is in the playoffs every year. Short memories some people have.”

    This was in response to the dumpster fire comment. I think the dumpster fire comment relates to giving up the future (two #1 draft picks) for a safety which looks like an “all-in” move. Now you can argue how valuable safeties are to the overall defense, but that is a hefty cost for a player who will want a huge contract extension. Only to lose to a QB playing with a broken thumb and the best defender in the league on the bench.

    Their drafting has been so suspect that they haven’t been able to replace the talent at all from the Legion of Boom days, and why they don’t get the offensive line fixed I haven’t a clue. It’s always been my view that it was Scot McCloughan who spotted all that talent in the 2010-2012 drafts. Once McCloughan left, John Schneider hasn’t done much in the draft. He’s overpaid for a ton of free agents (think Percy Harvin for a 1st plus two lower picks) largely because they can’t draft the cheaper guys with talent. Not to many of their high draft picks left on the team from the last several years.

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