Deshaun Watson “just wants out” of the Texans

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Last month, SI.com took a close look at the uncanny rise of Jack Easterby in Houston. Now, SI.com has a new article that sifts through the aftermath of a failed season and the intense dysfunction the team’s various moves have created.

The new article from Jenny Vrentas and Greg Bishop amounts to a treasure trove of news and nuggets, and we’ll spend much of the day — and possibly much of the weekend — presenting different angles from the story in quickly digestible chunks.

First up: It’s clear that quarterback Deshaun Watson has migrated past the point of no return when it comes to his relationship with the team.

“He just wants out,” a source close to Watson told SI.com.

Per the report, Watson found owner Cal McNair’s public remarks regarding the relationship with the quarterback to be “patronizing.”

The Texans had promised to give Watson input in the hiring of a new G.M. and a new coach. Then, the Texans hired Nick Caserio to be the G.M. without consulting Watson. Next, the Texans failed to interview Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, despite Watson’s suggestion that Bieniemy be targeted.

The Texans have, in the aftermath of the uproar over Watson’s frustration with the team, sought permission to interview Bieniemy. However, because they didn’t interview him during the bye week, the Texans now must wait until the Kansas City playoff run ends before doing so. Which, if the Texans are serious about talking to Bieniemy, may force them to wait until after the Super Bowl before interviewing him and then filling the job.

For all anyone knows at this point, Bieniemy isn’t interested in the job. At this point, who would be? Without knowing that Watson can be convinced to change his mind and/or that McNair can be convinced to sideline or terminate Easterby (more on that to come), no coach in his right mind should want to accept employment with a team that continues to head in the wrong direction.

Ultimately, the choice for McNair could come down to Watson or Easterby. If put to a vote of Texans fans and/or anyone of sound mind who isn’t related by blood or marriage to Easterby, the outcome would be the landslide of all landslides.

In this specific election, however, only one vote counts. And it belongs to Cal McNair. And since owners can’t be fired, Texans fans have no choice but to deal with McNair’s decision to keep his thumb pointing up, not down, when it comes to the fate of Jack Easterby.

161 responses to “Deshaun Watson “just wants out” of the Texans

  1. What is this hold Easterby has on McNair? Good grief does he have pictures of him with farm animals or something??

  2. Looking at the broad spectrum of things over the last few years, it is hard to imagine how a $3B organization could have been more poorly mismanaged than the Texans.

  3. We don’t know what if any of Watsons frustration has anything to do with Easterby, but assuming he wants out Watson is a whiner.

  4. For one, I can’t think of one time a QB was consulted on for the hiring of a GM and second, Bieniemy does not appear to be as hot a prospect as Watson thinks because he has been passed over by almost all of the openings.

  5. And I though my Cleveland Browns had mismanaged ownership. Watson wants to win now. Sometimes it’s not about the $$$$$$.

  6. Deshaun seems like a stand up guy. Not sure why they wouldn’t want him to be involved in hiring decisions or at least value his input. Then again maybe he should win a playoff game if he really wants his voice to be heard.

  7. Ehhh I’m sure people would be interested in the job whether Watson wants to stay or not. Theres only 32 NFL head coaching jobs and not all the ones that open up arent in the best position organizationally. If Watson stays then you have a QB, if you deal him you at least end up with some draft picks back their sorely missing right now.

  8. If I were in his shoes and could get myself out of that dysfunctional mess and into a situation where I wouldn’t be wasting my prime years, you could be DAMNED sure I would do it!

  9. This is one QB I’m glad the Browns passed on. Injury prone and now thinks he’s the owner of the team

  10. Barry Sanders and Dan Marino never wanted out Deshaun. They both wanted to help the team progress and they did to an extent; just not where they hoped. Watson should use them as examples of leaders that gave their all for their club and didn’t just jump ship because of adversity. A new team in no way guarantees any uptick in success.

  11. Well, I’m not surprised by this revelation. If Deshaun wants out then only 2 possibilities exist: One, Miami with JJ Watt for the #3,#18 First Round Picks, 2 Second round picks, Miami’s #1 in 2022 and Tua. Second, to Jacksonville without Watt, for the First Pick, their second pick in the Second Round, and a #1 in 2022. The Texans would pick Trevor Lawrence, the second pick could be traded to get another #1 this year or additional picks. I don’t see how the Texans could trade him to a NFC Team, not many of them have as much Draft Capital as Jacsonville or Miami. Maybe, maybe the 49ers, although I wouldn’t want Graappolo.

  12. Ryan Pace has one year to find a QB and save his job. No better QB available than Watson.

  13. IF, ownership PROMISED QB Watson input but did not keep their word, he has every right to feel no trust or confidence in leadership. Again, we are talking input, not final hiring decision. Input from the players leadership should always be welcomed. Team concepts will always make for better dynamics than individual concepts. Ultimately it is the players blood on the field and that alone should be respected enough for INPUT, not final decision authority no matter how much money they make. Money is not the issue here.

  14. mjchockey1 says:
    January 16, 2021 at 10:57 am
    For one, I can’t think of one time a QB was consulted on for the hiring of a GM and second, Bieniemy does not appear to be as hot a prospect as Watson thinks because he has been passed over by almost all of the openings.
    ___________________________

    Well then you should read more – as it has happened quite a lot in the last 30+ years.

    Not even saying Bieniemy would be the right coach, but if you look around I think you might just stumble across a time or two where superstars have had a say when it comes to coaches, GMs, and even free agent acquisitions.

    Let me be the first to welcome you to the late 1970s.

  15. Texans should trade Deshaun watson and jj watt to seattle for Russell Wilson and Carlos Dunlap

  16. Once just once, I would like to see the management say, your not going anywhere and you can sit on the bench and collect your money but no MVP chances, No records will be set and you will squander your years remaining on the contract till your no longer of value to anyone else.
    Quit and you cant play for anyone till your contract is up and were not going to take any picks to make you happy. Your screwed pal. Tell your agent thanks for the great advice!

  17. The only way he’s getting out is if he retires. He’d likely have to miss next year because of the salary cap. However, they could move him after the 2022 season. With the cap being reduced next year they can’t afford to take a $51M cap hit for moving him. It’s just not possible.
    He has a guaranteed salary of $35M in 2022 and a $17M roster bonus which pushes his 2023 compensation to $37M. His options are limited because of the contract he signed.

    If you’re a coach and watching what’s going on, why would you want Watson since he seems to want control over everything on the team. No thanks.

  18. oscarxray says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:08 am
    This is one QB I’m glad the Browns passed on. Injury prone and now thinks he’s the owner of the team
    _______

    As another fellow Browns fan – boy, were we smart to pick Manziel for his “skills” and “level headedness”….

    Phew….we sure dodged that bullet!!!

  19. I do nothing if I’m ownership. Let him cry and pout.. Then IF he’s man enough to make a comment in public (since up until now he’s been making it known thru third parties that he’s unhappy) you let him know that these grievances should be handled in house, and if he continues to air out the dirty laundry you bench him, and then if he starts missing meetings, or acting in a conduct that’s detrimental to the franchise you suspend him. Take his money and send him home

  20. lengai says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:09 am
    Barry Sanders and Dan Marino never wanted out Deshaun. They both wanted to help the team progress and they did to an extent; just not where they hoped. Watson should use them as examples of leaders that gave their all for their club and didn’t just jump ship because of adversity. A new team in no way guarantees any uptick in success.

    ________

    So how long have you been at GM?

    Would help if you had somebody from THIS century to reference. Times they are (and have been) a-changing.

  21. He’d look good in Black and Gold! Never mind, I’m sure the Steelers will extend Big Ben with a 2-year $500 million contract. Sigh.

    GO STEELERS!

  22. You heard it here first: Carr, a 2021 first round pick, and a 2022 second round pick for Watson. Bookmark this page.

  23. icouldcareless says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:18 am

    I do nothing if I’m ownership. Let him cry and pout.. Then IF he’s man enough to make a comment in public (since up until now he’s been making it known thru third parties that he’s unhappy) you let him know that these grievances should be handled in house, and if he continues to air out the dirty laundry you bench him, and then if he starts missing meetings, or acting in a conduct that’s detrimental to the franchise you suspend him. Take his money and send him home
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    And then what? You go 4-12 again, the team is in disarray and no free agents want to go there. Sounds like a great plan.

  24. The only way he’s getting out is if he retires. He’d likely have to miss next year because of the salary cap. However, they could move him after the 2022 season. With the cap being reduced next year they can’t afford to take a $51M cap hit for moving him. It’s just not possible.
    He has a guaranteed salary of $35M in 2022 and a $17M roster bonus which pushes his 2023 compensation to $37M. His options are limited because of the contract he signed.

    If you’re a coach and watching what’s going on, why would you want Watson since he seems to want control over everything on the team. No thanks.

    ________

    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.

    Also, THEY told him he’d have a voice (NOT THE FINAL CHOICE) about the new GM and coach – and then they didn’t actually talk to him about it.

    It’s amazing to me how many people who love capitalism and have the option to move to another company at our discretion seem to find it so appalling when an athlete wants to do the same if their company is going in a direction they don’t agree with.

  25. ImaPayne says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:14 am
    Once just once, I would like to see the management say, your not going anywhere and you can sit on the bench and collect your money but no MVP chances, No records will be set and you will squander your years remaining on the contract till your no longer of value to anyone else.
    Quit and you cant play for anyone till your contract is up and were not going to take any picks to make you happy. Your screwed pal. Tell your agent thanks for the great advice!
    _____

    I can’t imagine why that hasn’t been done before – yeah, I’m gonna teach you a lesson – take this 35 million a year where we get absolutely no return on our investment. Boy, that’ll sure teach him!!!!

  26. Darnold and this years #2 overall pick and something nice next year.

    And I’ll drive to Houston tomorrow to get him.

  27. will bring locker room discord to wherever he goes. When the tail wags the dog you have a much clearer picture of what is likely to come next.

  28. Ryan “Stop Hitting Yourself” Pace will probably trade the farm for him and double (triple ?) down on stupid. Not that Watson would be an upgrade over what they have (not that that’s saying much) but team is in a lame-duck year that will ensure the new GM next year will start in a hole. Thank you, George McMediocre…..

  29. Watson is really coming through this, not looking so good. If the Texans told him that he would have input in management decisions, I get his frustration. But he has to realize that the job he is paid, very well, for is QB. This ongoing campaign of his, through associates and other third parties makes him seem immature and unprofessional. For him to feel entitled to being part management decisions makes him seem lacking of any business acumen. I don’t think he will “get it” until this matter is resolved and then it may be a case of “be careful what you wish for” on his end.

  30. Texans are 29-35 since he arrived and 29-21 before he arrived under Bill O’brien…. scramble drill garbage time stat maker.. not a winner… Now just a team cancer!

  31. sportstalkfan says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:22 am
    You heard it here first: Carr, a 2021 first round pick, and a 2022 second round pick for Watson. Bookmark this page.
    ___

    Is this Bill O’Brien’s ghost account?

  32. –If I were in his shoes and could get myself out of that dysfunctional mess and into a situation where I wouldn’t be wasting my prime years, you could be DAMNED sure I would do it!–

    They didn’t become dysfunctional overnight. They were every bit when he signed the extension. Hell, they gotta be less now because no one can be as bad a GM as BOB!

  33. When JJ wants out of a city that he’s been so loyal to over the years, you know there are problems in Houston. I agree with Watson’s stance, just not the way he’s going about it. It’s not good to put your team on blast when you want out.

  34. People, he can’t sit out his contract and be a free agent. JJ Watt is a free agent. Jaguars are taking Lawrence. The one team that could make a real run at Watson is the Jets.

  35. If the Texans never traded with the browns.
    They could have tj wattt in 2017, 2018 could have been josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, denizel ward, or both chubbs.

  36. Lengai- Do you not remember Barry Sanders wanted to be away from the Lions so bad that he retired in his prime? On pace to be one of the best ever? Also, Dan Marino was having winning seasons, breaking records, and the coaches treated him great. The more I think about it, the more awful your comparison was

  37. Watson is a top 5 quarterback who is better at his job than Easterby is at his. If Watson wants him gone, McNair should fire Easterby immediately. Someone like him can be replaced very easily.

  38. To the “He signed a contract!” crowd: He signed the contract and had a verbal assurance from the owner of the team that he would be consulted on future GM and head coach decisions. That’s a contract too. Although it is verbal, it is still valid and related to his employment. This isn’t the case of someone whining about something he was entitled to get. The owner violated his contractual agreement. No one appears to be addressing that issue.

  39. Just drive five hours east on I-10 and replace Brees. Saints will send a first, a second and as a bonus a case of boudin sausage

    Oh, wait the Saints are over the cap, too…

  40. Since when did the NFL become the NBA?

    I’ll go to this team or that team=Watson
    I want say in the next OC= Wilson

    Jesus just play the game

  41. jvtrickypants says:
    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.
    ==

    It’s interesting that you asked another poster when they had ever been a GM, considering you don’t know how contracts work.
    Desean Watson would never sit out that long, and Houston would almost certainly cave and move him if he attempted it. But just for fun, let’s say he tried what you suggest and the Texans held firm.
    If you don’t show up to play while under contract you don’t fulfill the terms of your deal, therefore you accrue no years of service toward free agency. In other words, if he were to sit out four years he’d be only 28 years old, but he would remain the property of the Texans for the full length of time remaining on his unfulfilled deal.
    He’d be right back where he is now, minus four years of of a very large salary he would never, ever recoup.

  42. That’s great leadership, quitting on your team. I wouldn’t touch Watson with a ten foot pole. He’s a losing QB in a QB league. All the elite QB’s are overcoming weaknesses on their teams, and leading them into the playoffs. Watson is the most overrated player in the last 20 years. Just watch the tape. He can’t make the plays from the pocket when the original play breaks down. He tries to run for it. That only gets you so far in the NFL. You have to be smart to play NFL QB at a high level. You have to make good decisions under pressure, and you have to make them quickly. Not everyone is cut out for this business. Watson is one of them.

  43. nice display of leadership. not. what happens if he isn’t traded and he’s there in the huddle or rhe sidelines being a rah rah guy. if i was his teammates I’d be like yeah whatever dude. ans don’t think hs lneman are gonna have his back either after he called them out… m

  44. On September 5, 2020, Watson signed a four-year, $177.5 million contract extension with the Texans with $111 million in guarantees, keeping him under contract through the 2025 season. This was the second biggest contract in NFL history after Patrick Mahomes’ contract.

    Play and SHUT UP.

  45. Reminds me of Veruca Salt: [stamping her foot and yelling] Where’s my Golden Ticket? I WANT MY GOLDEN TICKET!

  46. With post June 1 trade the Texans would carry $5.4M dead cap money for the next four years. Without a trade partner to absorb the contract hit, Watson will not be going anywhere due to the $67M ($50M extra) cap hit.

    The Texans should immediately be meeting with Watson to quell the hysteria or then allow his agent to find a team willing to take on his contract & deal with them. The Jets are the best situated team to do this, it seems. Would they give up their pick? Maybe. I’m not so sure.

  47. It’s interesting to compare the similarity between Watson in this situation and Favre when he left the Packers.

    The reason for Favre becoming so openly hostile to Ted Thompson (Packers’ GM) was that under Mike Sherman, Favre was consulted on front office moves including players to be brought in. Ted Thompson ended that practice, reminding Favre that he was a “player” and not part of management. This incensed Favre, who never forgave or forgot.

    Of course, Favre’s annual “stay or retire” game strained the relationship as well, but the primary driver of the animosity was his “demotion” from management.

  48. I would say just do your job you are paid 30 + million dollars, but he has been doing his job so we can’t complain about that. I would say talk to your union player representative if you want to be able to have more hear say with ownership, but welcome to the real world most jobs out there ownership does what it wants

  49. To all you idiots that say ‘then he shouldn’t have signed that contract‘, the poo hit the fan AFTER he signed.

    Duh…

  50. And which owner would be wanting a player who has to be involved with hiring senior management positions?
    It would be really weird in Dallas traded for him and Deshaun wanted a different GM.

  51. I think Watson is a great quarterback. I also agree that his legs are injury prone. Just an observation,

  52. Watson can opt out. Just have him go home and wait out the length of his contract. Then after that period is over, he can become a free agent. Those are the rules when you play professionally. However, in today’s NFL, the player now has all of this insane leverage and ability to taint an entire league. If I tried this with my employer I would be living under an overpass.

  53. Chiefs dodged a bullet in that draft. All of the analysts said the Chiefs made a mistake taking Mahomes and not Watson. They aren’t saying that now are they?

  54. I Live In Field Goal Range says:
    “If I tried this with my employer I would be living under an overpass.”

    *******************
    Yes, you would. But you are not one of a handful of people in the world who can perform a $30 million/year job at a top 10 level. BTW, the team cannot just “have him go home”–that isn’t the rule. He can show up everyday and do the minimum amount of work. He can make sure that even the most minor injury takes time to heal. There would be nothing the team could do about it but cut him or continue to pay him.

  55. Easterby was part of the horrible trade…giving up arguably the best WR in the NFL for a running back that is doing nothing.

    I can see why Watson is angry. The guy that traded-away Watson’s best weapon is making the decisions. Let’s also not forget that McNair told Watson that he would have a say in the hiring of the new GM and head coach.

    McNair NEVER should have told Watson that he’d have a say, but maybe that was part of why Watson signed the new contract.

    As long as McNair is the owner and easterby is the EVP……the Texans will go nowhere.

  56. He the only player that wants out? If he knew McNair was a good ole boy why did he sign extension?

  57. With all that money tied up at QB, they jettisoned their best player, Hopkins, and have limited their player personnel within the cap. Starting 2022 til 2025, Houson isn’t a place a player would seek out to play.

    You need to pay your OL and receivers.

  58. Aaron Rodgers didn’t get a say on who was hired to be his coach and a qb who hasn’t won a damn thing thinks he should get ‘consulted’ on the gm and coach?

  59. Frankly, I’m pretty excited about the Texan’s future with Jack Easterby. I think people are really not seeing the big picture of Easterby’s vision and what he will be able to do if they would just let him run the show. If Watson can’t get on board, then Watson just needs to leave. He is not bigger than the team.
    (Jaguars fan here, btw.)

  60. Watching may be talented sure but has ever elevated his team to be playoff caliber? Ultra talent doesn’t always equal playoff success.

  61. jvtrickypants says:

    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.

    Also, THEY told him he’d have a voice (NOT THE FINAL CHOICE) about the new GM and coach – and then they didn’t actually talk to him about it.

    It’s amazing to me how many people who love capitalism and have the option to move to another company at our discretion seem to find it so appalling when an athlete wants to do the same if their company is going in a direction they don’t agree with.

    First of all, yes, he could just sit out until his contract expires. I don’t see him doing that because of the amount of money it would cost him.

    So they didn’t consult him after all. Boo hoo. Get over it. Life isn’t fair sometimes. Throwing a temper tantrum because you don’t get your way is what three year olds do.

    Last, what does capitalism have to do with this. Sure, I can go to another company if I like. However I, like most people, didn’t sign a contract with a company then decided to go somewhere else and if I did I’d have to live up to the agreements in the contract–just like everyone else. I don’t care if they move to another team or not. It’s their right. However, once you sign a contract that limits your choices. I’m sure he didn’t feel bad when he took all that money from the Texans. If he doesn’t like it he can sit out or retire or whatever. Having a temper tantrum through social media is pathetic.

  62. jvtrickypants says:

    January 16, 2021 at 11:25 am

    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.

    Also, THEY told him he’d have a voice (NOT THE FINAL CHOICE) about the new GM and coach – and then they didn’t actually talk to him about it.

    It’s amazing to me how many people who love capitalism and have the option to move to another company at our discretion seem to find it so appalling when an athlete wants to do the same if their company is going in a direction they don’t agree with.

    ——–
    Well no he couldnt. If he sits out his contract tolls so if he retires now and comes back in 5 years he still has the same amount on his contract. It’s amazing to me you dont know that.
    Also pedestrian recieving corps? Cooks and Fuller say hi.

  63. The Texans organization squandered the talents of Watt & Clowney, Hopkins & Watson. That takes some real work.

  64. Normally I side with the players but in this case Watson signed in September and had seen what O’Brien had done to the team. There were no surprises all the damage had already been done, yet Watson still signed the contract.
    I think it was foolish but adults are allowed to make decisions for themselves and they have to live by them.
    What leverage does Watson have to force his way out? Will he sit out? will he rip the team in the media and if he does can he be suspended without pay and avoiding his contract for conduct detrimental?

  65. Watson has NO LEVERAGE. He is under contract, a massive contract that will take care of generations of the Watson family for hundreds of years. He lost all leverage when he signed that contract. He has 2 options, play for the Texans and get paid or refuse payment and retire while the Texans hold his rights. The GM is under no obligation to trade him other than him being unhappy but guess what? That doesnt matter. If he plays hell play his ass off no matter what and hes not walking away. He knew what team he was getting paid by, now he secured his contract but wants it elsewhere. To bad bro, suck it up. Be the man they paid you to be or hang it up.

  66. if Deshaun Watson truly wants a out of Houston then he needs to stop going to source or casually saying it in Private & get on national TV or radio and say it and also give a reason why

  67. Unitas, Montana and Brady didn’t get to decide who the GM is, but this clown should or he’s going to throw a hissy-fit? LOL

  68. I wish the Steelers could get him but they are stuck w/ Ben’s exorbitant cap. I laugh at the Browns fans who are glad they didn’t take him in the draft. There’s not one GM in the league who would take shrimp Faker over Watson.

  69. Stop the presses. No player deserves the clout this guy is demanding, and I’d want to see a transcript of the conversation where he thought it was clear he’d be consulted.

  70. fastballupandin says:
    January 16, 2021 at 12:12 pm
    It’s interesting to compare the similarity between Watson in this situation and Favre when he left the Packers.

    The reason for Favre becoming so openly hostile to Ted Thompson (Packers’ GM) was that under Mike Sherman, Favre was consulted on front office moves including players to be brought in. Ted Thompson ended that practice, reminding Favre that he was a “player” and not part of management. This incensed Favre, who never forgave or forgot.

    Of course, Favre’s annual “stay or retire” game strained the relationship as well, but the primary driver of the animosity was his “demotion” from management.

    This is spot on. I was covering the team as this was happening and every bit of this is 100 percent true.

  71. And then what? You go 4-12 again, the team is in disarray and no free agents want to go there. Sounds like a great plan. The plan is too not give in too his demands when did he buy the team I was unaware?

  72. Alright people; let’s hope cooler heads and logic prevails in this Deshawn Watson debacle.

    (1) FACT: Deshawn Watson wants out in Houston
    (2) FACT: No sports team has ever received good results when they held a player against their will when that player wanted out! (It is like trying to force a spouse to stay when they want out) (Constant Stress and Tension on everyone all day and everyday)
    (3) FACT: The insult has festered to a point of where there is no healing in Houston
    (4) FACT: Houston needs to let Deshawn Watson go and recoup as much compensation available
    (5) FACT: If Houston tries to force Deshawn Watson to remain in Houston; the results will be disastrous and bring more shame on the Houston Texans franchise
    (6) FACT: Houston can rebuild their team quickly if they accept the one of the hypothetical proposals that are already being presented
    (7) Houston should allow Deshawn Watson walk without hinderance so that the Houston Texans can start assembling their new QB and squad right away. In this way next season can be promising instead of disastrous.
    Miami Dolphins should offer: (Tua plus their 3rd or 18th pick and Noah Igbinoghene) for Deshawn Watson now! In this way the Houston Texans will have some building blocks immediately.

  73. WAAAAAHHHHH, he has NO leverage he just signed a new deal and he’s really not a top 10 QB. He’s very talented but he’s not on Mahomes or Jacksons level. Let him sit and whine about it all year, if he wants to get paid he will shut up and go win some games.

  74. Professional sports have always been scripted. I know it hurts for people to realize their childhood players and heroes are just actors, but it’s the truth. Like you guys can see here, the NFL is already a lot like the NBA. And, for those who are still not convinced after all these years, wait till you see this season’s super bowl match-up: Buccaneers vs. Ravens.

  75. lengai says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:09 am
    Barry Sanders and Dan Marino never wanted out Deshaun. They both wanted to help the team progress and they did to an extent; just not where they hoped. Watson should use them as examples of leaders that gave their all for their club and didn’t just jump ship because of adversity. A new team in no way guarantees any uptick in success.
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    You don’t jump ship because of adversity, but you do climb out of a dumpster when it’s on fire.

  76. I hope he ends up on the 49ers (would be amazing to watch in that offense).

    But if I’m the Texans, I’m playing hardball.

    You’ll play for us or nobody.

  77. Watson has a ton of leverage.

    He can sit out a year. While that hurts him, too, it hurts the Texans even more.

    He can play poorly, collecting his paycheck while making sure that Houston doesn’t get to the playoffs, but still wins enough games to hurt them in the draft.

    This is bad for Watson and Houston….and the blame lies squarely with McNair.

  78. ImaPayne says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:14 am
    Once just once, I would like to see the management say, your not going anywhere and you can sit on the bench and collect your money…

    Only problem with this scenario is, no free agent player or high first round pick will ever go there if that occurs.

  79. He’s probably stuck there. This isn’t the NBA where players dominate the owners. In football it’s the other way around.

  80. Joshua Pickett says:
    January 16, 2021 at 12:58 pm
    Watson has NO LEVERAGE. He is under contract, a massive contract that will take care of generations of the Watson family for hundreds of years. He lost all leverage when he signed that contract. He has 2 options, play for the Texans and get paid or refuse payment and retire while the Texans hold his rights. The GM is under no obligation to trade him other than him being unhappy but guess what? That doesnt matter. If he plays hell play his ass off no matter what and hes not walking away. He knew what team he was getting paid by, now he secured his contract but wants it elsewhere. To bad bro, suck it up. Be the man they paid you to be or hang it up.
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    You must not be familiar with Jalen Ramsey. He’s playing in the playoffs today while his former team has the 1st pick in the draft. He forced his way out of Jax and Watson will do the exact same thing. That back injury will hamper him the entire off season….. until he’s traded.

  81. I realize some of these trade offers are trolls, but some of these from people thinking their offers are legit are quite hilarious. It’s gonna take a minimum of three 1sts and 2nds, and at this point Tua’s value is equal to a 2nd round pick.

  82. billzbubb says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:47 am

    To the “He signed a contract!” crowd: He signed the contract and had a verbal assurance from the owner of the team that he would be consulted on future GM and head coach decisions. That’s a contract too. Although it is verbal, it is still valid and related to his employment.

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    A verbal contract is worth the paper it’s printed on.
    Also…anyone in any business will tell you…ANY contract can be broken.

  83. As a Dolphins fan, I wish people would stop suggesting we trash our rebuild to give up all our picks for this guy. If he can’t handle a single losing season for 160 million dollars in Houston, he’s going to be very unhappy in Miami if we have to give up the picks we need to fix up the O-line and the receiving corps to get him.

  84. Some QB needy team is definitely gonna sell the farm to get him. It’s not often (almost never), that an elite QB is available to trade for.

  85. Trade him to Detroit for Matt and since Matt has some age on him a couple future late round picks.

  86. Very good young QB.

    But he quit on his teammates. He could have chosen to be a part of the solution. He became part of the problem.

  87. confusedbritfan says:
    January 16, 2021 at 2:19 pm
    As a Dolphins fan, I wish people would stop suggesting we trash our rebuild to give up all our picks for this guy. If he can’t handle a single losing season for 160 million dollars in Houston, he’s going to be very unhappy in Miami if we have to give up the picks we need to fix up the O-line and the receiving corps to get him.

    Amen Confused! I said the same thing to another Dolphins fan last week. I don’t think Klores and Grier would do it anyway. Can we at least give Tua a chance with some weapons?

  88. jvtrickypants says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:25 am
    The only way he’s getting out is if he retires. He’d likely have to miss next year because of the salary cap. However, they could move him after the 2022 season. With the cap being reduced next year they can’t afford to take a $51M cap hit for moving him. It’s just not possible.
    He has a guaranteed salary of $35M in 2022 and a $17M roster bonus which pushes his 2023 compensation to $37M. His options are limited because of the contract he signed.

    If you’re a coach and watching what’s going on, why would you want Watson since he seems to want control over everything on the team. No thanks.

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    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.

    Also, THEY told him he’d have a voice (NOT THE FINAL CHOICE) about the new GM and coach – and then they didn’t actually talk to him about it.

    It’s amazing to me how many people who love capitalism and have the option to move to another company at our discretion seem to find it so appalling when an athlete wants to do the same if their company is going in a direction they don’t agree with.
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    Right, look how well that worked out for Kaep.

  89. I would tell Watson and his agent that not communicating is hurting both of their interests: If the relationship can be rebuilt they will need to talk through it, and even if it cannot be then Watson must understand the Texans will not let him go without very serious trade compensation. By not even talking Watson is undermining that potential trade compensation from other teams. Both sides benefit by clearing the air.

  90. texanfan62 says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:10 am
    Well, I’m not surprised by this revelation. If Deshaun wants out then only 2 possibilities exist: One, Miami with JJ Watt for the #3,#18 First Round Picks, 2 Second round picks, Miami’s #1 in 2022 and Tua. Second, to Jacksonville without Watt, for the First Pick, their second pick in the Second Round, and a #1 in 2022. The Texans would pick Trevor Lawrence, the second pick could be traded to get another #1 this year or additional picks. I don’t see how the Texans could trade him to a NFC Team, not many of them have as much Draft Capital as Jacsonville or Miami. Maybe, maybe the 49ers, although I wouldn’t want Graappolo.

    Why would MIA offer anything like this? They have way more leverage than HOU. Since Watson can dictate where he wants to go, MIA can say they’ll offer TUA, maybe Xavien Howard, and a future pick – take it or leave it. They don’t need to give up the farm for him. HOU is screwed and only have themselves to blame.

  91. It’s pretty simple. He can “Retire” then unretire to play and get an accrued season then “tweak” his hamstring on the first play. Sorry coach, I have a nagging hamstring…he can get it done very spitefully if he really wants. He count also do this until the team he wants, miami trades for him. Texans have no choice but to take a low ball offer. Tua and maybe a 2nd. Watson is in complete control here.

  92. I am not happy that my Bears did not fire Pace after he passed on Mahones and Watson for the loser trubisky. He should have been fired for that. They kept Pace- he might have a chance at another bite of the apple. He gave away the team for the trubisky bust, give away the team to get this franchise QB and maybe we can forgive you.

    Then get him an O line worthy and we are in business.

  93. Who’s dumber? An owner that promises a player input into the hiring process of front office and coaching staff, or the player that believes them?

  94. Seriously, who can afford your exorbitant $40 mil salary? Stupid contract. He will have to throw to UDFAs and be blocked for by the same.

  95. Really getting rid of Hopkins began the fallout for the team. Really what were they thinking?!

  96. lengai says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:09 am
    Barry Sanders and Dan Marino never wanted out Deshaun. They both wanted to help the team progress and they did to an extent; just not where they hoped. Watson should use them as examples of leaders that gave their all for their club and didn’t just jump ship because of adversity. A new team in no way guarantees any uptick in success.

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    Odd shout out to Dan Marino. Dude was in the playoffs almost every year.

  97. Heck , Ryan Pace would most likley give up 3 or 4 of the Bears next number 1 draft picks. He’s a really smart GM when it comes to quarterbacks…

  98. Seriously, who can afford your exorbitant $40 mil salary? Stupid contract. He will have to throw to UDFAs and be blocked for by the same.

    You act like this is the first big money deal a QB has ever signed, which I find odd. Also, it’s perfectly reasonable to pay that money as long as you can draft a little. The cap is 175 million or so, so you have 135 million dollars to fill out your team. UDFA shouldn’t be a issue.

  99. Tua, #18 and #35 this year plus our #1 next year. Then trade down from #3 and get back next years #1.

  100. In my opinion the Miami Dolphins are not going to give up 3 first round picks or even two for Watson. Several years ago the Dolphins were misguided but I think they are making better decisions now. They need their number 3 pick to choose one of the two sure shot receivers in the draft, Alabama’s Smith or Chase from LSU. One of those great receivers will make Tua a much better QB. Another possibility is trading Watson to Jacksonville for the number one pick Trevor Lawrence.

  101. Watson quickly rising up the ranks as one of the most unlikeable players in football. I said this from the beginning and got numerous downvotes , now I am proven correct

  102. As a Texans season ticket holder, I never thought Watson would be a quitter and I don’t really believe it. The problem is he is under contract and doesn’t control where he plays but at the same time he is hurting his chances of the Texans hiring an elite coach. The owner just wants to win and is trying to provide everything the team needs to do just that. Time for Watson to man up.

  103. Any team that has a legit chance trading for Watson has to have enough in trade value to offer via picks & or players. So logically a team must have a handful of picks. Jacksonville? Yes but they are drafting Lawrence. So we have MIAMI & MIAMI only. And MIAMI does have a solid foundation right now & seem primed for a good 4-6 year run with the right QB. That is Watson. If Fitzpatrick was healthy I think he was starting week 17 @ BUFF.

  104. In hindsight, the Texans should have ponied up a draft pick for Caserio last year. If they had a real GM for the past year, then maybe they would not be in this situation. It’s always a shame when a franchise QB wants out.

  105. After signing the “yuuge” contract Watson looked around and said “I’m just to wealthy to play with these losers.

  106. To me, this is Watson telling the 31 other teams, “I will throw your entire organization into chaos if any personnel moves are made without my approval, even AFTER you make me one of the highest-paid players in history”.

    Questionable management decisions are made by teams all the time. But only Watson pouts this much about it. If this is how he handles adversity right after signing a mega-contract, I would not trust him to build a team around. Who wants someone who quits this readily as the face of their franchise?

  107. Watson is no better than what he is crying about. New coach to come in to where your hot shot QB is crying after signing a contract to play in Houston/ Things are going to be really looking up in Houston.

  108. This is exactly what the “media” does. Just keep throwing out a baseless point to try to point others opinions in the direction they want.

  109. jvtrickypants says:
    January 16, 2021 at 11:25 am

    He could literally sit out until his contract expires and would still only be 28 years old and a guy who led the league in passing yard this year with a fairly pedestrian receiving corp.

    Also, THEY told him he’d have a voice (NOT THE FINAL CHOICE) about the new GM and coach – and then they didn’t actually talk to him about it.

    It’s amazing to me how many people who love capitalism and have the option to move to another company at our discretion seem to find it so appalling when an athlete wants to do the same if their company is going in a direction they don’t agree with.
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    NO HE COULDN’T JUST SIT OUT UNTIL HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES, PERIOD! Go learn something about the NFL before commenting so you don’t stick your foot in your mouth the way you just did.

    A player has to be on “full play status” for a minimum of 6 games to have an accrued season(as they call it), if a player desides to sit out the entire season and isn’t on “full plat status” then that season doesn’t count as anything and another season gets added to the contract.

    Why do you think players that sit out always come back by week 8? If they’d wait until week 10 all the team would have to do is give them a week off and say they weren’t in “game shape” and then that season wouldn’t count and another year would be added to their contract.

  110. If I’m one of the top draft teams there’s no way in hell I’d give the Texans the price they’ll want for Watson, first off that’s too expensive of a contract going into a reduced cap season. Secondly I could have Lawrence, Fields or Jones for 5yrs for less than DeShaun will cost for 1yr(BTW I’d take Jones if I had the 1st overall and if I’m Miami I take him if he falls that far and let him and Tua battle it out for the starters job and put the other one on the trade block). Third there’s no way I’d want a QB that just demanded to be traded, I mean how long does he stay with the new team(if he gets one) before he demands another trade because something made him mad or the team did something he didn’t agree with?

    I think Watson is over-playing his hand and finding a trade partner isn’t going to be easy with the high $$$$$$ contract and his bad attitude!

    If he’s adamant about it I’d trade him to the Jags or Jets for their 1st rounder and a ham & cheese sammich just so he goes to an even worse team!

  111. Whoever wants to trade for him, keep these antics in mind. As soon as you do something he doesn’t agree with, expect to be insta’d to death.

  112. Ship the malcontent out, get a high draft pick in return and move on.

    The Texans didn’t win anything of consequence with him. They are in a division where no one is king. Start over.

  113. And why is Watson hooking his wagon to the Bienemy train? Outside of his tenure with Colorado 30 years ago what has he done without Mahomes at his disposal?….which to a degree could be asked of Reid, as well….but considering all we know about Bieemy, why pick this hill to die on?

  114. Feeling betrayed is a very powerful gateway to personal evolution. It requires one to work with emotions around trust and loss of power.

    Deshaun Watson’s astrological chart show several aspects that may keep him in Houston until just before the season starts in September.

    The Houston franchise may choose to let this first wave of indirect reports pass and then both sides will entrench themselves for a power play.

    Many in society will project their own personal and collective issues onto both sides, hyperbolically creating a drama in which emotions are extreme. Examples may surround issues of capitalism, ethics, greed, racism, leadership, responsibility, entitlement, community, righteousness, and personal freedom.

  115. markdeen777 says:

    And why is Watson hooking his wagon to the Bienemy train? Outside of his tenure with Colorado 30 years ago what has he done without Mahomes at his disposal?….which to a degree could be asked of Reid, as well….but considering all we know about Bieemy, why pick this hill to die on?

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    This is a great question. There seems to be a league-wide lukewarm feeling re: Bienemy. My guess is because Andy Reid is the primary play-caller on the Chiefs.

  116. psubeerman21 says:

    You act like this is the first big money deal a QB has ever signed, which I find odd. Also, it’s perfectly reasonable to pay that money as long as you can draft a little. The cap is 175 million or so, so you have 135 million dollars to fill out your team. UDFA shouldn’t be a issue.
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    The money is an issue because it’s 1/5 of your entire cap, which limits the FA you can sign. Add to the the draft picks you have to give up, and the combination is not a winning hand. People who think Houston will take Tua and a 3rd or something like that are fooling themselves. The paid 2 #1s and a #2 for Tunsil. Who’s more valuable between him or Watson.

  117. I’m curious how many people work for a corporation or large business entity and get ownership choices without being the owner. We may be in an NFL era where shut up and play does not work but an owner giving up major personnel decisions for a guy whose career could be over with the next big hit is just not going to happen. Sure Watson is being placated but so are we all unless we own a business corporation or entity!

  118. Between Watson(who can play but is a whiner), Goff and Wentz the 100 million plus guarantees in their contracts might be a turning point in QB contracts. These type of contracts might start going the way of big contracts for RB.

    300 million plus in guarantees between the 3 of them and either their teams don’t want them any longer or they don’t want the teams.

  119. So many scenarios. How about, “We have you locked up in long term contract, & you’ll play for whoever we hire. Maybe we’ll hire Pee Wee Herman! And you’ll play for Pee Wee Herman! How about that, Mr. Mutiny??”

  120. As a Dolphins fan, from my perspective I’d rather we didn’t do any trade for him. Give Tua time and build around him.

  121. I get that they have invested heavily in Watson, and therefor he feels like he should have influence…

    But I bristle at the idea that a player (who is really just an employee) would feel that he have the right to determine who OWNERSHIP decides is going to be in management.

    OK, he’s the highest paid employee. Can you image the highest paid Engineer, or technician or architect at a technology company saying “I know you paid me MILLIONS of dollars guaranteed, but I want to be consulted before you hire the new CEO.

    ?????!!! He would be laughed out of the room.

  122. I’m a Browns fan. I would trade Baker Mayfield straight up for Watson. I hope the Texans are dumb enough to do that, but considering they gave away Nuk Hopkins for a box of donuts maybe they just are that dumb.

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