Mike Pettine out in Green Bay

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The Packers need a new defensive coordinator.

Mike Pettine’s contract is expiring and he will not return to Green Bay in 2021, according to Tom Pelissero of NFL Network.

That’s not a big surprise, given that the Packers’ defense had some letdowns in their NFC Championship Game loss to the Buccaneers, most notably giving up a long touchdown pass from Tom Brady to Scotty Miller just before halftime. A lapse like that wouldn’t cost a coach his job if everything else were going swimmingly, but there were plenty of times during the 2020 season that the Packers’ defense didn’t look particularly well-coached, and head coach Matt LaFleur hinted after the loss to the Buccaneers that he wasn’t happy with Pettine.

Now Pettine, the former Browns head coach who has also been a defensive coordinator with the Jets and Bills, will try to find a new job. And the Packers will try to find a coordinator who can get their defense playing at a Super Bowl level after a year in which they fell just short.

115 responses to “Mike Pettine out in Green Bay

  1. The TD before half time was the straw that broke the camels back. My fear is the defense could get worse. Who is left to pick from?

  2. scape·goat-

    a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.

  3. If Rodgers had run the ball in for the touchdown instead of throwing into coverage, Pettine would still have his job.

  4. If the buck stops with the head coach, he should own it and defend the DC he chose.

  5. One underemphasized statistic before the NFC game was that Brady was 10-3 all time against Mike Pettine-led defensive teams. If nothing else, Brady was no doubt familiar with Pettine’s tendencies.

  6. One year too late. He should have been gone after the San Francisco disaster last year. Made no adjustments as the 49ers ran wild all game long. I just hope they don’t promote another #2 guy, as they did with the SP coach. Move on from Jerry Gray too.

  7. So GB will have their 5th defensive coordinator since 2005. Maybe they will stop hiring former head coaches for the role, and find someone who has some fresh ideas.

  8. Packers will just promote or pick someone we never heard of and the same thing will happen all over again. It’s like the movie Groundhog Day.

  9. He didn’t chose Petine. Petine was from McCarthy’s staff and Murphy forced him to keep him.

  10. If Rodgers had run the ball in for the touchdown instead of throwing into coverage, Pettine would still have his job.
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    He didn’t throw into coverage.

    Adams was open. He was a half-second late, and the Bucs were able to close.

    .. running for a score was hardly a given either. Devin White in the vicinity, and he was a wrecking ball thoughout the Playoffs.

  11. “If the buck stops with the head coach, he should own it and defend the DC he chose”

    It was McCarthy’s guy that was put on him. Regardless, a head coach can make changes if needed.

  12. Brady was no doubt familiar with Pettine’s tendencies.
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    I have no doubt Brady is aware of tendencies………………….

  13. It’s hard to be a Rodgers apologist and GB fan these days. All last week the talk leading up to the game was how complete a team GB is and how good the defense was playing. Now, GB was a worse team than 5 seed Tampa? Or did Rodgers just choke again in a must win game…

  14. Scapegoat. This is a huge sign of weakness at the top.They were good enough to get to the championship game. I thought the offensive coaching was much worse than the defense. And the overall game management from the head coach was horrible.

  15. He didn’t throw into coverage.

    Adams was open. He was a half-second late, and the Bucs were able to close.

    .. running for a score was hardly a given either. Devin White in the vicinity, and he was a wrecking ball thoughout the Playoffs.


    He threw across is body and as you said LATE
    He could have ran the ball at the very least get to the one or two yard line that would have made an easier decision to go for it on 4th instead of kicking

    Rogers poor decision cost at least the attempt to tie the game

  16. “Eric Bieniemy calls defensive plays in KC, hire him… Please”

    Bieniemy is going to be a head coach. Why would he leave the NFL champions KC to come here?This wouldn’t even be a lateral move.

  17. The TD before half time was the straw that broke the camels back. My fear is the defense could get worse. Who is left to pick from?
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    I think LaFleur and Wade Phillips worked together with the Rams.

    Jerry Gray has multiple stints as DC.

    Mike Smith and LaFleur came in together. Maybe he gets the reigns?

  18. I really liked Pettine when we brought him in and I was totally fine with us keeping him last year. The defense did play better down the stretch but ultimately I think a change is what’s best for everyone. We have a lot of talent when you look at each level of defense. Hopefully a changing of the guard can spark something.

  19. I’d Ike to see them consider a young respected coach (like Saleh) who doesn’t come from an organization like TPA or LA just because the have stud players. McCarthy was hired as HC after coming from SF when they won 2 games. Like Bakhtiari lasting until the 4th round because his team was winless his senior year. Forget retreads. Think innnovation and accountability.

  20. What a dumpster fire in wisconsin.
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    You Viking fans just don’t have an ounce of awareness. Do you realize how stupid it sounds for fans of a 7-9 third place team to be talking so much smack about a team in the final 4? Get a hobby or something.

  21. As bad as he was, he still made Brady throw picks on three consecutive drives and should have had a 4th which was dropped in the first half. People can no longer objectively assess Brady. His defense saved him big time.

  22. That TD right before the half was the biggest play in that game! Who knows what happens if they didn’t score there.

  23. GB’s D hasn’t been anything to write home about since Reggie White.

    Next to go: Kevin King

  24. I think everyone knew this guy was gone after the Miller TD. Well, everyone except the uneducated fans that don’t really understand what a scapegoat is.

  25. What they need is a defensive coordinator like the late great Fritz Shurmur. That guy seemed to have an answer for everything. Invented the Big Nickel while coaching previously in Arizona. Stifled Randall Cunningham with a five linebacker defense while with the Rams. Taught Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick how to coach NFL defense. He should be the first career assistant in the Hall of Fame. That ’96 Packer defense he coordinated might be the must underrated of all time. Put their stats up next to the ’85 Bears and you’ll see what I mean.

  26. Move on from Jerry Gray too.
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    The guy has coached more All-Pros and Pro Bowlers than you can shake a stick at.

    Blaine Bishop
    Samari Rolle
    Antoine Winfield
    Sean Taylor
    Kam Chancellor
    Earl Thomas
    Richard Sherman
    now Jaire and Savage

    He’s the least of our problems.

  27. Our defense forced three turnovers. He is nothing but a scapegoat for Lafluer. Whats going to happen next when LaFluer makes a bonehead call. This young kid is over his head. They fired the wrong coach.

  28. Rogers poor decision cost at least the attempt to tie the game
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    So did the horrendous, boneheaded call at the half

  29. As a very-resistant-to-change, get-off-my-lawn old man, even I’m good with this. The NFL is in a transition to a younger man’s game on the coaching side and Pettine just ain’t it.

    Pettine’s defense was “newer” than Capers’ but it’s still far from “cutting edge.” It seems to have no answers for the new offenses taking the league by storm.

  30. aarons444 says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:34 pm
    If Rodgers had run the ball in for the touchdown instead of throwing into coverage, Pettine would still have his job.
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    He didn’t throw into coverage.

    Adams was open. He was a half-second late, and the Bucs were able to close.

    .. running for a score was hardly a given either. Devin White in the vicinity, and he was a wrecking ball thoughout the Playoffs

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    Truly great players make great plays that define them and win big games. It’s how you become legendary. Rodgers didn’t run all game—it was the perfect time to do it and there was nothing there to stop him.

    Rodgers had to take a chance to be great, and elected not to be.

    But hey, his stats were good, so there’s that…there’s always that.

  31. GB’s D hasn’t been anything to write home about since Reggie White.
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    Its no coincidence, teh last (and ONLY) time Rodgers was paired with a top 5 D, he won the Super Bowl

  32. marzxyz says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:30 pm
    One underemphasized statistic before the NFC game was that Brady was 10-3 all time against Mike Pettine-led defensive teams.

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    I’m guessing most of those 10 wins came when he was coaching NYJ or Buffalo (before they were good) and maybe one or two when he was in Cleveland (before they were good). Seeing as how bad those teams were, Brady would’ve stacked up 10 wins against them with or without Pettine. Probably why that stat is so “underemphasized.”

  33. Didnt Greenbay’s defense have 3 interceptions on 3 successive drives in the second half? It is shameful that Pettine is taking the fall for that lose.

  34. Gregg Williams and Mike Pettine both lost their jobs because of a terrible one on one man coverage play with no safety help and the CB playing up on the line. CB gets burned deep at the end of the game/half and then they lose their jobs. It’s so simple, don’t let anyone beat you over the top at the end of the half or end of the game and yet these two veteran DCs don’t get it.

  35. Lil late to the party. And the next guy will be worried about Erin going 3 and out then blaming his D for the loss. Who’s left? A bunch of fired guys.

  36. Isn’t the head coaches first priority to manage the game? Well all I’m 100% sure about is these two things – When the Packers win it’s because Aaron Rodgers is great, and when they lose it’s never his fault… Ever

  37. Rodgers had to take a chance to be great, and elected not to be.
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    Yet you clamour for a Rodgers to New England trade……………………

  38. Oh I get it he is the one that told the coach listen you have the MVP with no time left so kick a field goal. I don’t blame the coach then, on the hand the way Tampa Bay has been scoring lately the defense did pretty well.

  39. “People can no longer objectively assess Brady. His defense saved him big time.” Brady was responsible for all 31 points they scored. The Packers led the league in red zone efficiency, and Rodgers was like 0-6 on first downs in the red zone. Green Bay also led the league in opening drive touchdowns, with a total of 73 points scored. What happened there? They didn’t score one in this game. Should we talk about Rodgers throwing 4 for 12 on passes in the 4th quarter as well? How about the 5 sacks? He most certainly didn’t outplay Brady. One guy had a bad 4th quarter, while the other played from behind the entire game. Figure it out.

  40. Why blame pettine? It’s not his fault he was given soft players. The embodiment of that defense was Alexander trying to arm tackle fournette in the NFCCG rather than taking him on and wrapping up. A new DC won’t change an ole defense.

  41. I bet if given both chances, Mike Pettine would have run the football into the end zone.

  42. When pettine was hired cheese eaters were head over heels about him. Last year when I pointed out his defense was statistically worse than caper’s last defense I was scoffed at. Now it all changed ad green bay fan have turned on pettine as they are wont to do.

  43. Defense intercepted Brady 3x in the second half. If Rodgers had converted the three picks, we could all be talking about how the defense carried Rodgers.

    Or not. Rodgers and his fans would be telling us how great Rodgers is

  44. Interesting that a team that came within a game of the Superbowl is turning over about as many coaches as a team that backed into the final playoff spot and got trounced in the 1st round (Bears). Clearly some franchises hold themselves to a higher standard than others.

  45. This was probably due as most Pack fans seem to have been clamoring for Pettine’s head the last couple years. Those 3 second half INTs were more TB’s fault than great plays by the Pack defense. That end of the half play vs Tampa was pretty bad, but I’m not sure the GM gave him a decent non-rush LB the entire time he was with the Pack (Martinez you could time with a sundial, Kirksey is always hurt, and Gary has hardly developed at all).

  46. About time!..Wade is too old and soft…need a hard hitting young coach…need a lot more speed on the D… time to remove the old guys!

  47. When pettine was hired cheese eaters were head over heels about him. Last year when I pointed out his defense was statistically worse than caper’s last defense I was scoffed at.
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    Worse than Capers at what point?

    Surely we don’t need a refresher as to just how bad he was?..

  48. Al these non packers fans ripping the team are comical. Yes it was a rough loss, but how many teams would love just to make the playoffs and that packers have been in the NFC Championship two straight years. Matt Lafleur did not originally hire Pettine, give him a chance to bring in his own guy and see what happens. Everyone said the packers were a fluke after there first season under Lafluer and he proved everyone wrong. I also believe Lafluer has lost one NFC north game in his first 2 seasons.

  49. Read it yourelf
    Green Bay Packers’ Defense Has Gone Backwards Under Coordinator Mike Pettine
    Total defense: Capers 16.6, Pettine 23.0.

    Rushing defense: Capers 14.9, Pettine 24.0.

    Passing defense: Capers 16.3, Pettine 17.5.

    Scoring defense: Capers 15.2, Pettine 18.0.

    Opp. QB rating: Capers 12.8, Pettine 23.0.

    Sacks: Capers 10.1, Pettine 12.5.

    Turnovers: Capers 10.9, Pettine 14.5.

    Want me to share the post where all you packers fans loved and defended pettine??

  50. Crackers n Cheeese says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:27 pm
    If the buck stops with the head coach, he should own it and defend the DC he chose. He didnt Hire him he was left over from McCarthy staff by The GM

  51. Sooooooooooooooo. The guy in charge kicks a field goal with less then two minutes, gives the ball back to probably the best QB to play in big games to run out the clock and the defensive coach and special teams coach is to blame. Hmmmmmmmmmm. MAybe stop hiring these 30 yr old guys that don’t know what responsibility is.

  52. The packers d was soft under capers. The packers d was soft under pettine. Why are all the players the packers get on d soft? hint, they don’t come that way they become soft. How? culture. When the QB focuses on individaul stats, never takes blames for anything and throws others under the bus for his mistakes, pouts like a petulant child when things don’t go his was or people don’t fawn over him and are straight about him, you get a culture that permeates through the locker room and creates a soft defense. Changing DCs won’t change that.

  53. “Eric Bieniemy calls defensive plays in KC, hire him… Please”

    He’s the offensive coordinator.

  54. Was hoping they resign him to another decade. What about Lafleur decision to go for the field goal? So, the guy who made the dumbest decision gets to stay but not the one who didn’t? That’s how it works in the Packers nation. No wonder they mad.

  55. aarons444 says:
    January 29, 2021 at 6:08 pm
    Rodgers had to take a chance to be great, and elected not to be.
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    Yet you clamour for a Rodgers to New England trade

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    Absolutely. I’d take him in a second and the Pats would be favored in the AFC East again. Maybe the change of scenery is what he needs. I don’t think the attitude would change, but there’s no doubt he’s a top quarterback, skill-wise one of the best I’ve ever seen. I don’t get why the guy has to always sound like his life and team are not meeting his expectations somehow. Maybe he can go see Tony Robbins with Brady one time—might give him the boost he needs to take it to the next level. If anyone should have a superiority complex about football, it’s Brady, but no one ever categorizes him that way and he never gets bogged down in “him” vs. “team”. He’s all about team. Rodgers should take note.

    We witnessed some tremendously substandard QB play this year. I don’t want to go through that again.

  56. you would not think a guy that forced Brady into 3 2H ints would be out of a job. Amazing how careers change because of 3 plays that all went the way of the Brady Bunch
    1) no PI/D Holding on Rodgers pick when there was a clear jersey grab
    2) no flag for blatant block in the back on the Gronk TE screen
    3) flag for PI on the pivotal 3rd down to ice game

  57. aarons444 says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:34 pm
    If Rodgers had run the ball in for the touchdown instead of throwing into coverage, Pettine would still have his job.
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    He didn’t throw into coverage.

    Adams was open. He was a half-second late, and the Bucs were able to close.

    .. running for a score was hardly a given either. Devin White in the vicinity, and he was a wrecking ball thoughout the Playoffs.

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    Cheese necks are the most myopic fans in football. All of sports, probably. They act as though they are the fron runners to win the super bowl every year. Yet, somehow, now Tom Brady has won as many NFC Championships as Erin.

  58. Wait, wait, wait, just one minute here??? Didn’t his defense just produce 3 interceptions in the NFCC game? Why in ANY world is he fired? His team’s MVP led offense ONLY scored 26 points at home with those extra possessions and he’s at fault? BS!!!

  59. pkrlvr says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:45 pm
    What a dumpster fire in wisconsin.
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    You Viking fans just don’t have an ounce of awareness. Do you realize how stupid it sounds for fans of a 7-9 third place team to be talking so much smack about a team in the final 4? Get a hobby or something.

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    I wholeheartedly agree that fans of a 7-9 team shouldn’t be trash talking a 13-3 team that lost in the NFC Championship game. Ironically. in 2017, the Vikings posts were jam-packed with fans of the 7-9 Packers trash talking fans of the 13-3 Vikings after a loss in the NFC Championship game. It’s par for the course on here…troll not, lest ye be trolled…

  60. pkrlvr says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:45 pm
    What a dumpster fire in wisconsin.

    Not compared with the Texans, Green Bay is run WAY,WAY better than the Texans who are going to be renamed the Easterby’s because that is who made them a REAL DUMPSTER FIRE!

  61. For anybody crying for Rodgers to be in NE just keep in mind how rare TB12 is and AR just showed everyone he’s not close to being that guy. Almost noone is.

  62. Pettine had a find defense in Buffalo a few years back. It was the offense that was terrible. That got him a HC job in the dumpster fire that Cleveland was at the time. I hoped he would do well in Green Bay but it seems that if an offense can’t score, it’s the defense fault. You can question the call on the Miller TD but King knew the call and played it wrong. If you know you don’t have deep help, you can bite on short moves. I wish Pettine well on his next gig.

  63. Wade Phillips if they want to win now, where ever Wade goes the D gets instantly better.

  64. pkrlvr says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:45 pm
    What a dumpster fire in wisconsin.
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    You Viking fans just don’t have an ounce of awareness. Do you realize how stupid it sounds for fans of a 7-9 third place team to be talking so much smack about a team in the final 4? Get a hobby or something.
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    That same 7-9 team handed Green Bay one of their losses this season. In fact, Green Bay had to come back in the 4th quarter to beat the worst team in the league (Jax) who had some guy named Luton starting at QB.

  65. How old is he? If he’s in his mid 60s or beyond he’ll go straight to the top of Mike Zimmer’s list for a consulting job in Minnesota.

  66. Dom Capers hired today by the Lions as Defensive Special Assistant. Speak of the devil.

  67. This guy was the DC in Buffalo and got torched by Brandon Weeden of the Browns. He should be able to find a job at some local Junior High back in Pennsylvania

  68. The TD to Scottie (Who???) Miller to close the 1st half was the end of the game. How about keeping everything in front of you with 30 seconds to go and Tampa at the 50? And putting no sustained pressure on Brady the entire game – he has looked average this year when harassed. Someone has to take the hit for that. Forgot about Rodgers and the Offense choking. For 2021, get some pass rushers and help in the 2ndary, because you’ll have to deal with this same TB team next year.

  69. He was fired by Aaron Rodgers
    (Then again, Rodgers didn’t give up the 39-yard TD at the end of the first half)

  70. Pettine had to go. His players had to go to him and ask to be “let loose”. He did that and they got much better. His schemes were outdated and didn’t utilize his players to their best ability. He was a holdover from McCarthy; time for new blood.

  71. Haha good riddance. But this is similar to pete carroll in Seattle. Is Lafleur throwing his dc under the bus instead of taking the blame himself? Time will tell…

  72. -Pettine’s defense generated 3 turnovers in the 2nd half.

    -LaFleur knew the defensive call for the end of the 1st half touchdown. He could have overruled the call, he chose not to.

    -On that call, an injured Kevin King knew he had limited safety help and yet still bit on a short move.

    Given the utter ineptitude of aaron rodgers in the red zone and Lafleur’s now infamous FG decision, I find his decision to cut Pettine loose rather disgusting. A piece of advice for the other assistant coaches and coordinators on the packers staff: Watch your back.

  73. Not in anyway saying he should have been retained. But he isn’t the reason they aren’t in The Show. Turnovers sure are though.

  74. Gosh, cheesey and company sure are chatty. I’m still thinking about the stinking, festering season the Vikings had. If Lefleur is throwing his assistants under the bus, he must attended the coach Zimmer school of scapegoating.

  75. aarons444 says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:49 pm
    Move on from Jerry Gray too.
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    The guy has coached more All-Pros and Pro Bowlers than you can shake a stick at.

    Blaine Bishop
    Samari Rolle
    Antoine Winfield
    Sean Taylor
    Kam Chancellor
    Earl Thomas
    Richard Sherman
    now Jaire and Savage

    He’s the least of our problems.

    55 13 Rate This
    bestpackerfanever says:
    January 29, 2021 at 5:49 pm

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    To my point. Find a D coordinator who can coach up the average guy and make him great.

  76. It’s about time!! He should have been let go 3 years ago!! It should have told them something that he got let go of the head coach of the loser Browns!! He’s horrible and why the Packers can never get to the big game being the Super Bowl! Awesome offense that had to score 30 plus points or they lose cuz the defense would give up 30 plus thus what happened again 2 years in a row in the NFC championship game! Good luck finding a new Job!!

  77. This was super long overdue. The criticism of the HC and Rogers are all true, but this long overdue. He stunk.

  78. He’ll turn up in Minny just like Dom. They need a LOT of help over there. Not a lot of intelligence on the defensive side of the ball.

  79. Let’s not forget the 12 men on the field twice. Inexcusable. Where was the pressure up the middle against Brady, no stunts, twists anything no imagination whats so ever.

  80. His defense was getting better and starting to shut down Rodgers in practice.

    That’s an instant pink slip.

  81. Crackers n Cheeese says:

    January 29, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    If the buck stops with the head coach, he should own it and defend the DC he chose.

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    Well he didnt choose Pettine, he inherited him. No difference than a new gm coming to a team with a head coach already in place your never sure how much they really want that person. That being said even if he did choose him “the buck is being stopped with the head coach” because hes admitting he made a mistake by firing him, how is compounding a mistake by continuing to employ someone you dont think can do the job a smart move?

  82. The Packers D gave up big points all season long and if not for Rodgers and Adams keeping the team ahead, they wouldn’ have been in the playoffs to begin with.
    Capers couldnt get it done and neither could Pettine for the same reason, lousy players.
    5 ‘9 defensive backs who cant cover, tackle or play man. 6’1 dbacks who are slow and lack mobility. No linebackers to speak of because they didnt draft any of notice. A d line no one knows that their role really is from play to play and no real big run stopper up the middle.
    No its easy being a great d coach with great talented players.

  83. I find it amusing that so many non packers fans have something to say about Pettine getting fired,whats the matter, are you afraid they may hire a great defensive coordinator that will bring the Packers defense up to the level of their offense,now how good a team will that be,GREAT is the answer.the truth is Pettine had to go,the team has been drafting defense and signing free agents yet under Pettine the defense has been the weak spot for years.the team will be better overall next season with a new DC.

  84. Who I think would be great is Dave Aranda who is now the Head coach of Baylor! He coached at Wisconsin and LSU! Not sure how much it would cost to buy him out though? His salary is 2.5 million. Pettine was making 3.5 so maybe! Any thoughts? This guy is aggressive!

  85. He didn’t chose Petine. Petine was from McCarthy’s staff and Murphy forced him to keep him.

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    Ha ha ha! I thought Dead Ted err Gute, was the GM? This was a CYA by Flower to distract from not making a single run attempt on the 8 and then not letting the MVP go for it when it’s 4th down territory. When are the Cheeseheads going to figure out that Murf, Flower and Gute are not capable of winning a SB much less getting in the game?

  86. The field goal call guy should get fired !!!

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    Not going to happen. Murf, Gute and Flower found the fall guys, ST & DC coaches. Nothing to see here. Look at the shiny ball over there.

  87. sure….it was Pettines fault that the defensive back who had no one else on his side of the field decided to let the Bucs WR run right past him…..it’s also Pettine’s fault that the kid forgot to get his mother anything on Mother’s Day.

    Was the kid put in the right position in the defensive scheme to make the play? yes. That’s Pettine’s job and that’s all it should be…to put the players in the right positions to make plays. At some point the kid needs to get his head out of his backside and be responsible.

  88. When Brady hit the bomb with no time left on the clock, he could have cleared out his office at halftime

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