Do the Seahawks still have a Russell Wilson problem?

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Entering the 2020 season, the Seahawks had a mild Russell Wilson problem. Russ wanted to cook, and at least for a while the offense was smoking.

The offense regressed later in the season. After a one-and-done home playoff loss to the Rams, Seattle offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer was fired.

The Seahawks hired Shane Waldron to replace Schottenheimer, but it remains unclear whether and to what extent coach Pete Carroll will reserve the right to put his imprint on the offense.

Over the weekend, it was reported that a couple of teams called the Seahawks to inquire about Wilson’s availability in trade. The Seahawks declined to engage in such discussions. On Monday night, came this nugget from Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports: “I’m hearing Russell Wilson’s camp has grown increasingly frustrated by the Seahawks inability to protect the 8 time Pro Bowler. He has been sacked 394 times in 9 seasons. This situation warrants serious monitoring.”

To the extent there’s a “there” there, Wilson’s concerns sweep much more broadly than a complaint about the quality of the team’s offensive line. It’s the overall offense. It’s the early exits from the playoffs. It’s everything that has kept the Seahawks and Wilson from getting back to the Super Bowl.

Indeed, the Seahawks haven’t progressed past the divisional round since 2014, Wilson’s third NFL season.

Now entering Year 10, the 32-year-old quarterback is getting closer to the midpoint of a career, based on his preferred expiration date of 45. For several years, a vague sense has meandered through the grapevine that, in time, Wilson will play for another team.

Two years ago, before Wilson got an extension that paid him a then-record $35 million annually, chatter about a desire to play in a city like New York had been building. Although it remains highly unlikely that anything will happen this year (his contract triggers a $39 million cap charge in the event of a trade before June 1), Wilson and the Seahawks are creeping closer to his next up-or-out moment.

Twice before, the two sides chose “up,” in the form of a market-value contract. As soon as next year, the player and/or the team could potentially opt for “out.”

So while the situation merits monitoring, don’t expect it to come for a head in 2021 — unless someone makes the Seahawks a post-June 1 offer they can’t refuse, and if the offer comes from a team for which Wilson would waive his no-trade clause.

41 responses to “Do the Seahawks still have a Russell Wilson problem?

  1. We live in copycat league. Right now, there are owners of other 7-9 type teams that see the one season turnaround in Tampa, and are saying. “Why not us?” Franchise QB’s are going to move around this off-season, with monster trade offers, as other teams see if they can catch that Tampa heat. And in the coming seasons, Franchise QB’s aren’t going to be so quick to sign extensions.

  2. Kevin Garnett endorsed the power trade/free agency deals. He openly says he wasted 12 years with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Since winning a NBA championship with Boston, players have looked to join winning teams instead of starting from scratch. Tom Brady is the only one who can take a barely there team like the Bucs and make them into champions. LeBron can’t even do that. Maybe Kawhi.

  3. Can’t blame the guy. It’s no secret Carroll and Schneider have no idea how to evaluate OL. They have been so bad now on the OL for years, you’d figure they’d get lucky at least one season. Russ won’t make it to 37, much less 45, at this rate.

  4. Not sure I agree that Wilson is at his midpoint and will play until 45 or older. He’s not Tom Brady and takes way more hits. At some point those hits take a toll and players become a shell of themselves.

  5. Looks like his career IS going to be defined by that ill-advised, last-second interception to lose the last Super Bowl he’d ever play in.

  6. The Seahawks haven’t progressed past the divisional round since 2014, when they paid Wilson big money.

  7. I wonder if his salary demands are hindering his team from building a decent OL??

  8. When have they NOT had a Russell Wilson?

    First he’s carried by the defense and hated in the locker room because you guys in the media gave him all the credit.

    Then he wants a huge contract when all he did prior was get carried by the D and win some games every now and then in the 4th.

    Then he skirts any blame for the team not being as good as it was because the media goes with the “talent around him” issue despite his contract being why.

    Then he wants to “cook.”

    Then he wants to pick his O coordinator.

    He’s an egomaniac diva starving for even more fame and credit but you guys cover for it because he visits a hospital once a week.

  9. That’s still a god problem to have. I wouldn’t mind having an Aaron Rodgers problem either.

  10. Hasn’t gotten past the Divisional round in SEVEN years!?? Time for changes somewhere on the offense…(and not an irrelevant Schottenheimer sacrificial lamb) is he not as great as we were told over and over and over he was?

  11. Mr. Florio appreciate your dedication and coverage to this ongoing situation but it is getting pretty late. Past midnight, oh my get some sleep good sir! Don’t over extend yourself you need to be fresh and ready to give Mr. Simms his deserved verbal beat down!

  12. Wilson can’t demand all the money in the world and then complain that he’s not surrounded by talent. I mean, he can but he’s stupid to do so. The winning formula was on display just last Sunday. Brady plays for less than market value, his team signs other talent, and he wins his seventh SuperBowl. At least Wilson can make a case for being paid. Then you got Dak Prescott who can’t beat a team with a winning record and thinks he’s elite based on stats.

  13. How about getting rid of the ball quicker instead of running in circles extending plays…

  14. Much ado about nothing. Smoke, no fire. Seattle needs to improve its O-line to provide better protection. There’s a draft coming up in end of April Watch this space.

  15. If QB salaries didn’t hog the cap space disproportionally, maybe the team could assemble a better defense and offensive line. Will GMs stop paying exorbitant salaries to QBs?

  16. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. These rumours are coming from the Russ camp. I don’t blame him for wanting out.

  17. So Stafford and Wentz get accommodated and Watson and Wilson don’t? I’ll bet a good journalist could find a storyline here.

  18. As a Phins fan who happens to have a soft spot in my heart for the NY Giants, I would love to see Wilson get traded to the Giants! It would almost immediately make them a serious contender again in the woefully weak NFC East. True the Giants have a few holes to fill, well many holes to fill, but bringing in Wilson would make the team a much more attractive place to play for some of the better UFA’s out there.

    They are showing some good tendencies on D, they have a promising new OL coach, they have some pieces in place in the O backfield and on the edges but could use some vertical help. Luckily the draft has a lot of good WR talent this year, fast guys, big guys and big/fast guys too along with some really good RB talent as well even into the later rounds.

    I think Wilson to NYG is a great fit, I know they have a promising young player now at QB, but just think, getting Wilson and opening up the competition with Daniel Jones would only make the team stronger regardless who wins that battle. Just one dreamer’s opinion.

  19. Russ gets sacked a lot in large part because he likes to hang on to the ball and extend plays. He has to move around to get passing lanes given his height and he runs into some sacks that way too. Great player but always seems like it’s other people’s fault with him. Just please don’t announce your next contract extension from your bed. That still creeps me out.

  20. Poor Russ. Maybe if he asked for another $10M/yr that would make him happy. I think it’s ridiculous when you have a QB making $35M/yr then complaining because they don’t have the ability to improve the offensive line because of all the money Russ is making. You can’t have it both ways.

  21. Or they can draft better? A lot of teams find good OL guys on the 2nd/3rd day

    pfffffffffffft says:
    February 9, 2021 at 4:13 am
    If QB salaries didn’t hog the cap space disproportionally, maybe the team could assemble a better defense and offensive line. Will GMs stop paying exorbitant salaries to QBs?

  22. Baltimore would glad trade Orlando Brown Jr for two 1sts. He is a STUD – but they already paid the other tackle

  23. Reckon Russ is sick of getting battered by Aaron Donald twice a season and wants out of the NFC West.

  24. The problem isn’t Wilson…it’s that so many draft picks have been traded or otherwise haven’t panned out the way they hoped.

    Metcalf is special, but many of the other guys drafted in last 4-5 years have just been serviceable. When they trade down repeatedly, then the guy they pick doesn’t pan out — well, not a good look.

    THgey will always be in the hunt as long as Wilson is QB. Without him they are average at best.

  25. You definitely B Crazy if you think drafting is the problem. Seattle OL talent goes to other teams and succeeds because they don’t have to deal with Russell Wilson staring at the rush so he has to freelance and abandon the play. Remove the 2-3 awful sacks he takes per game and then take another look at his numbers.

    See Glowinski, Carpenter, okung, Ifedi had 50 pff grade in 2019 and had 65 grade 2020…….

    You B. Crazy says:
    February 9, 2021 at 1:13 am
    Can’t blame the guy. It’s no secret Carroll and Schneider have no idea how to evaluate OL. They have been so bad now on the OL for years, you’d figure they’d get lucky at least one season. Russ won’t make it to 37, much less 45, at this rate.

  26. Love Russell Wilson as a player. But guys like him and Mahomes running all over the place and taking hits they shouldn’t have to will not have them playing in their 40s.

  27. Seattle spends many draft picks on trades. It is catching up to them. With fewer picks it is hard to develop a team.

  28. “Much ado about nothing. Smoke, no fire. Seattle needs to improve its O-line to provide better protection. There’s a draft coming up in end of April Watch this space.”
    ——————————————————————————————–
    The Seahawks have limited draft capital after the Jamal Adams trade, with picks in Rounds 2, 4, 5, and 7—and only one selection in the top 120. Even with the way that Schneider likes to move down for more picks, he has very little ammo. Watching this space after the draft isn’t going to be that exciting for Seahawks’ fans.

  29. Wilson, Carroll and Bobby Wagner are coming to the end of the line in Seattle. For Carroll and Wagner, age is the issue. Not sure how many more years Carroll will want to coach- he turns 70 later this year. Wilson won’t stay for the rebuild.

  30. golions1 says:
    February 9, 2021 at 5:35 am
    So Stafford and Wentz get accommodated and Watson and Wilson don’t? I’ll bet a good journalist could find a storyline here.

    —————

    I agree, a good journalist should point out that two of those quarterbacks are considerably better than the other two, so of course their teams don’t want to trade those better two. They’re franchise quarterbacks! Good observation

  31. No, Wilson’s complaint very much focuses on the quality of the OL in front of him. For reference, here are the PFF NFL rankings of Seattle’s OL performance, starting with 2020 and going backwards: 14th, 27th, 18th, 27th, 32nd, 30th, 19th, 27th, 20th. Nine seasons, and only once has the group barely cracked average and has averaged a 24th rank across the league. PFT, stop trying to create news by making mountains out of molehills. Anyone with reasonable knowledge of Seattle has long known that they struggle to put together an effective OL, and so if reports are that Wilson is unhappy with that the reports probably start and stop right there.

  32. I respectfully disagree that the issue is the entire offensive strategy.

    It’s no run first or pass first, it’s BLOCK FIRST. Instead of building a solid foundation, Pete Carroll puts Russell Wilson on a unicycle. If Wilson has premiere blocking, he can win merely by playing schoolyard football, with a solid run game. We all saw signs of that early this season when the O-Line was healthy.

    PREDICTION: By 2024 Russell Wilson will become the offensive player-coordinator of whichever team he is with.

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