Cam Newton is definitely better than plenty of starting quarterbacks

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Soon-to-be-free-agent quarterback Cam Newton recently declared that there aren’t 32 quarterbacks better than him. He’s right.

On Tuesday’s PFT Live, Simms and I went through all 32 teams and identified several starting (for now) quarterbacks who aren’t as good, in our view, as Newton.

Check out the attached video for the full discussion. Or keep reading. (Or both.)

This isn’t about potential destinations or fit or whatever. It’s a simple yes-or-no, up-or-down look at whether Newton is better or not better than the quarterback in question.

Newton is better than, in our view: Patriots quarterback Jarrett Stidham, Jaguars quarterbacks Gardner Minshew and Mike Glennon, Broncos quarterback Drew Lock, Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, Washington quarterbacks Alex Smith and Taylor Heinicke (and Kyle Allen, whom we didn’t specifically mention), Bears quarterbacks Nick Foles and Mitchell Trubisky, Lions quarterback Jared Goff, Panthers quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, and 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo.

We flagged two as toss-ups: Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and Giants quarterback Daniel Jones.

Here’s the part where I invite you to agree or disagree in the comments. Here’s the part where I acknowledge that you need no express invitation to do that.

77 responses to “Cam Newton is definitely better than plenty of starting quarterbacks

  1. By what metric? I had to laugh when you said he better than half of those named. Just because he HAD been good doesn’t mean he is anymore.

  2. Wow. You listed an awful lot of QBs who are worse than CAM.

    If your metrics are last year’s play, I don’t agree that CAM is better than Goff & Garoppolo!! Or Alex Smith or Heinicke

  3. Thinking Ben and Cam is a toss up is hilarious on multiple levels. Also Cam is 30 and most of he qbs on your list haven’t had a full career to show that they are no good. Like Cam has…..

  4. You wouldn’t say that if you watched more than one or two Patriots games – he was the worst starter in the league

  5. Wrong, he’s not better than half you listed. And you can’t list 2 backups from Washington, they aren’t starters. No one is taking Cam over Goff, Garappalo, Foles, Lock or even Bridgewater. Funny you “telling” us that though.

  6. He’s not better than Garoppalo or Bridgewater and we don’t know enough about Hurts yet. Doesn’t matter, his best days are way behind him.

  7. If being able to complete a forward pass is irrelevant, Cam is better than all of those guys listed. If it is important that the QB for your team is able to complete a forward pass, you don’t want Cam Newton.

  8. We have seen Newton’s ceiling in 2015 and have seen him regress every year since. Give me someone young and promising like Hurts over aging and declining every time.

    In my opinion… Newton is nothing more than a year to year filler at this point,

  9. What a lot of you haters are overlooking is that Pats offense in 2019 made Brady look naff. Cam arrived 29th June, to same offense minus a couple of starters and soon lost Edelman too. Under all that headwind, Cam’s 2020 rating was 83 (65% comp). Brady 2019 was 88 (61%).
    I’m not suggesting Cam is in Brady’s league, but that he had precious little to work with.

  10. Look, I love Cam and the NFL is a better product with him in it somewhere. But he had a historically bad year (8 tds 10 ints). That is not a better stat line than anyone on that list outside of Stidham or Glennon. (why is Heineke even listed?)

  11. Ben?!?! Wth. No way!

    I would definitely take Trubisky, Garoppolo, Smith, Goff, Bridgewater, and Minshew over him.

    He is better than Jones, Hurts, and Lock but they are all young QBs who could get better, Cam is going into his 10th season.

    Glennon is awful and Heinicke has two career starts.

    Foles, I am not sure. I would take Newton over he but Foles may actually be a better passer and he was able to win SB (fluke but still happened).

    So I would say maybe Foles/Heinicke/Glennon. Foles, Heinicke and Glennon were backups to start this season, none were played because they were better than the starter.

  12. The only person he is better than is (possibly) Jarrett stidham. He’s not close to anyone else. This is a freezing cold take.

  13. What exactly has Cam done in the last few years to show he even is better than Mitch Trubisky? And to list younger QBs with more sustainable skill sets who have also already gone to Super Bowls, what a joke. He’s a battered broken shell of what he used to be, and without that dominating physicality he’s not gonna scare ANYBODY in 2021 and beyond with his passing acumen. People talk about how bad the Pats weapons were (which is true lol) but does it matter how good a receiver is when balls hit him in the feet on a shallow cross? Or sails 5 feet over his head down field? As a Panthers fan i can tell you that’s a regular thing for him.

  14. What a lot of you haters are overlooking is that Pats offense in 2019 made Brady look naff. Cam arrived 29th June, to same offense minus a couple of starters and soon lost Edelman too. Under all that headwind, Cam’s 2020 rating was 83 (65% comp). Brady 2019 was 88 (61%).
    I’m not suggesting Cam is in Brady’s league, but that he had precious little to work with.

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    Nice cherry picked stat. In 2019 Brady threw for 253 ypg, 24 TD and 8 INTs. 2020 Cam was 177 ypg, 8 TD to 10 INT. Cam’s only thrown for more than 253 ypg once in his whole career.

  15. streetyson says:
    February 23, 2021 at 4:17 pm
    What a lot of you haters are overlooking is that Pats offense in 2019 made Brady look naff. Cam arrived 29th June, to same offense minus a couple of starters and soon lost Edelman too. Under all that headwind, Cam’s 2020 rating was 83 (65% comp). Brady 2019 was 88 (61%).
    I’m not suggesting Cam is in Brady’s league, but that he had precious little to work with.
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    Cam’s offense was not good but he was the main reason. 8 touchdowns in 15 starts? I don’t know how NE got 7 wins with a QB that threw 8 scores. Hurts had 6 TDs in 4 starts with a worse offense.

    Newton cannot throw the ball, which is why he only had 4 games which 30+ attempts and 7 games with less than twenty! He was benched three times.

    Newton is a good person, but he his beat up from a decade of being a QB that runs. Same thing will happen with Murray, Jackson, and Hill (if he is the next guy). Allen would have been the same way but he found out how to throw this offseason.

  16. i’m guessing cam’s patriots film was not reviewed before making this list… he’s for sure not better than half those names mentioned and even in the ones that are close i’m taking the younger option with more upside not a guy 6 years removed from a being good

  17. Actually we need an invitation since normally if we disagree or step on a future story our comment is rejected…Newtom is better than Minshew, Foles, Glennon and Stidham but that’s it and NONE of those 4 are actually expected to start next year.

  18. Cam Newton is worse than Minshew, Jimmy G, Goff, Minshew, Smith and Heineke. Heck I’d argue worse than Kaepernick. He’s the worst QB in the league by far. Look at his stats from the past 3 years he’s worse than Blake freaking Bortles.

  19. He is not better than a single one of the names mentioned. He isn’t even better than Josh Rosen.

  20. The only argument I have is that you don’t take other factors into consideration when you think teams can just drop QBs without worry about Cap implications or other things. Sure he may be better than Rothlisberger (today) but that doesn’t mean the Steelers can afford him — with the Cap situation they’re in.

  21. Cam certainly looked like was was laboring throwing the ball after about game 3. I think he may have bee hurt. To be fair, if we look at how Brady looked late in 2019 with that depleted offense after Brown and Gordon were out and Edelman running at about 50% of normal, they looked awful. Now look at what Brady did this year. So I think Cam could be better with some better parts around him. Not saying he’s going to win a Super Bowl, but he’s capable of getting a team to the playoffs.

  22. You guys obviously are making this a click bait discussion, because there’s no way on this planet that he’s better than Jimmy G, Bridgewater, or Alex Smith. The others are debatable, but those three are head and shoulders better than Newton at this stage in his washed up career. He couldn’t complete a pass of more than 2 yards last year with any accuracy

  23. I’m not sure why he hasn’t been playing better. We’ve seen what he’s capable of and it doesn’t seem to be there now and there doesn’t seem to be a great reason why.

    He’s “on paper”, better, “should be” better, just not in better in practice. In actual results, production, most of those guys are playing better than he is right now. So it’s tough to make a case why a team should sign him. They’ve got decent QBs playing about at a level they expect; a QB playing below the level they’d expect is not a problem most teams want to take on.

  24. 1westcoastfootballfan says:
    February 23, 2021 at 4:26 pm
    What a lot of you haters are overlooking is that Pats offense in 2019 made Brady look naff. Cam arrived 29th June, to same offense minus a couple of starters and soon lost Edelman too. Under all that headwind, Cam’s 2020 rating was 83 (65% comp). Brady 2019 was 88 (61%).
    I’m not suggesting Cam is in Brady’s league, but that he had precious little to work with.

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    Nice cherry picked stat. In 2019 Brady threw for 253 ypg, 24 TD and 8 INTs. 2020 Cam was 177 ypg, 8 TD to 10 INT. Cam’s only thrown for more than 253 ypg once in his whole career.

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    I think the comparison is Brady last year vs Brady this year. 289.6, 40 and 12. Cam also lost Edelman completely, which had an impact, and the D was significantly better last year. So cam could probably see similar percentage improvement on a much better team. Something like 250 ypg, 20 TD, 10 INT would be reasonable. Plus all the rushing TDs he brings. He’s not Brady, but he was in a tough situation.

    I really think the Patriots may bring him back as they need a veteran to at least start the year even if they draft a QB. I don’t see them choosing any of the other vet QBs that are out there over Cam given the high price for the talented guys.

  25. Based off last year, I would take anyone on that list over Cam – except Stidham and maybe Glennon.. maybe

  26. Is he actually better than most of those quarterbacks, or has he simply been on better teams? Hmm…

  27. Cam goes to Super Bowl and loses. Foles goes to Super Bowl and wins. Both are not playing well know. Why is Cam better?

  28. Cam got called out by some high school kid at his own training camp. While he’s still in the NFL, his career has almost hit rock bottom.

  29. Not a single NFL GM is taking Cam Newton over Jimmy Garoppolo at this point in their respective careers, are you kidding me? Newton is a shell of his former self, he’s not close to the level he was playing at in 2015, age and injuries have taken their toll and the qualities that made him special, his elite athleticism, fearlessness and rushing ability are all gone.

  30. For the most part Patriots WR’s were in right position/location. Cam just couldn’t hit them consistently. Cam made them look bad, not the other way around.

  31. You’re analysis is stuck in 2015. It’s 2021. Cam started 15 games last year. He only had 2,657 yards passing (the GOAT had 2,000 more yards), 8 TD’s and 10 INTs. Sorry. But that’s pathetic. If you were talking Cam 2011 or even 2018, okay, I can see your argument. But he’s currently a shell of himself. Goff had 1,300 more yards and 12 more TDs (and 5+ years younger). Give me a break. Even Trubisky is better than Cam at this point in his career.

  32. He should try a new position.

    He has nothing to offer any team as a QB. Saying there aren’t 32 QBs on the planet better than him isn’t accurate. There are only about 12-14 QBs that matter at any given time.

    Saying he should be a starter because he’s the 27th best out of 32 is useless blab.

    Can Newton an NFL QB in 2021 = LMAO. Who wants to be 5-11?

  33. Out of all the QBs on that list I’d be curious to know who had the weakest skilled position players to work with. Only then can you have an accurate comparison.

  34. So it’s a toss up between he and Roethlisberger? Ben 33 TDs in 15 games. 10 interceptions. Riiigghhhttttt. It is a tie. Uh huh.

  35. Protip: if you want to argue effectively that Cam Newton is bad, don’t just cite passing statistics. Cam Newton has more career rushing TDs than most Hall of Fame RBs.

  36. “I’m rich. I’m rich. I’m rich” – to a high school kid. “ You suck. You suck. You suck”

  37. At this point, I don’t know who he’s really better than. He was terrible last year.

    He did have covid and that has been affecting some athletes’ play, even after they return.

    If he gets a shot somewhere next year he needs to play much better than he did in 2020 or he’ll never play in the league again.

  38. Cam has one (1) throw. It is a 40 yd zinger on a line. He can throw it to a back in the flat, to a slot over the middle, to a wide out on a fly, or just about anywhere. No matter, always the same velocity and trajectory and he throws into coverage and is not very accurate. Very easy to defend.
    Definitely has brain freeze and zero finesse. You will never see worse decision making. Other than that thanks to his remaining running ability, he is better than all Mike listed, except maybe Garoppolo who is brittle. Trubisky has some upside.

  39. I definitely think Drew Lock is better right now and for sure has more upside than Cam Newton. Newton looks old and scared ever since he got beat down in the super bowl 5 years ago. Not surprised a national news reporter has nothing good to say about Lock. Drew Lock has played in 18 games. Barely more than 1 season. He had no offseason last year and has never had the same offensive coordinator two years in a row since high school. The man needs to develop. He will be fine if given the chance.

  40. Sorry, but you guys are living in the past when it comes to Cam. His body is cooked, and there’s about 3 years worth of evidence for that. He’s not that guy anymore.

  41. Are Patriots going to re-sign him? I don’t know? What i don’t understand is why Stidham wasn’t given some games later in the season to find out how good-or bad he is.

  42. Cam is absolutely better than a number of starting quarterbacks….in Canada….maybe?
    Right up there with Uncle Rico.

  43. Cam newton is awful there literally is no more useless QB in the league period. Let Stidham play draft anthony Schwartz and add Zaven Collins Nc state dt and go from there.

  44. Cam had a great run but it is over.
    I would take 40+ guys over him going forward.
    Perhaps him and Wentz can go to Canada together.

  45. We flagged two as toss-ups: Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and Giants quarterback Daniel Jones.

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    As much as I hate Big Ben, Cam Newton is not a toss-up here… it’s not even close. They both threw the same number of INTs in 2020 except Big Ben had 25 more TDs. And the rest of the stats that matter aren’t even close (such as wins).

  46. Brady sucked his last year in NE just like Cam. But ye faithfuls could not admit what you were seeing with your very on eyes.

  47. weapons in new england be damned, the man missed open receivers sitting on the top of their routes wide freakin open. facts

  48. Stidham has never started a game or practiced with the ones. Trying to mock BB’s 4th rd selection and slander his career during a pandemic, is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

    Newton played the worst qb position in NE since Hugh Millen in 1992.

    He was absolutely horrible and got worse as the season went.

  49. Cam vs. Alex Smith:

    When did Cam come off the bench and lead an otherwise dismal overall team to a division title?

    When Cam came off the bench he threw 5 TDs. As in singular.

  50. No offense to Mike or the posters but the only thing that matters is does Belichick think any of the QBs are available, if available a better fit for the Patriots than Cam, and that the cost in assets, renumeration, and salary cap is good value.

    Belichick let Brady go not because he couldn’t play, but for a myriad of reasons, most importantly they couldn’t even win a playoff game after a 12-4 season. Bill knew it wasn’t getting better. Bill always looks at value and the objective. He didn’t play Stidman to try to develop and evaluate him. He may draft someone he’s willing to do that with if he sees the team as a whole not capable of competing for a championship or making positive strides towards that end.

  51. Patriots were 5-11 in 2000. They won 3 Super Bowls in the next 4 years.

    I shake my head when people doubt Belichick.

  52. How is he better than Goff and a toss-up with Daniel Jones? Are you seriously saying Daniel Jones is better than Jared Goff?

  53. All the QB’s you listed above, I would take there heart, smarts, and attitude over Cam any day.

  54. The 2001 Patriots super bowl roster had a backup QB in Brady.

    Wiggins and Rutledge at TE.

    Antwain Smith, Kevin Faulk, JR Remond, at RB and Edwards at FB.

    Troy Brown, Terry Glen and David Pattern at WR.

    Wiggins and Redmond were in for the winning drive.

    Is there another coach in NFL history that could have beaten the greatest show on turf with that offense?

  55. Cam Newton was horrible and a shell of his former self.
    Maybe the COVID had something to do with it, but just because you are better doesn’t mean you are good enough to play.

    I’d take Alex Smith over Cam, unless Cam greatly improves
    Same for Jared Goff, Teddy Bridgewater, and Jimmy Garoppolo.
    They don’t stink as badly as Cam does now.

    Not a starter:

    Taylor Heinicke
    Jarrett Stidham,
    Mike Glennon

    Yucky starters – not sure Cam is any beter than some of them
    Gardner Minshew
    Drew Lock
    Jalen Hurts
    Nick Foles,
    Mitchell Trubisky
    Daniel Jones

    Don’t forget Sam Darnold – he’s bad too.

  56. This is an argument for simpletons. No NFL team wants the 26th best starting QB. You risk an unknown who could be top 12 every time over someone you know is not good enough.

  57. As a Bears fan I will pass. Thanks but no thanks. Yeah Chicago is bad at QB but I’d rather draft a QB this year or even next than to go through 2 or 3 years of bad, excuse filled years with Cam and then start all over again.

  58. There’s about 4 guys listed who Cam probably is better than but the article totally ignores the fact that not all those QBs are equal in terms of age. Lock and Hurts are young and (hopefully) improving while Cam is clearly years past his prime. If your team had a shot at starting a promising rookie next season or Cam which would you see as having a bigger upside?

  59. tigerlilac says:
    February 23, 2021 at 8:32 pm

    The 2001 Patriots super bowl roster had a backup QB in Brady.

    Wiggins and Rutledge at TE.

    Antwain Smith, Kevin Faulk, JR Remond, at RB and Edwards at FB.

    Troy Brown, Terry Glen and David Pattern at WR.

    Wiggins and Redmond were in for the winning drive.

    Is there another coach in NFL history that could have beaten the greatest show on turf with that offense?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Tom Brady is the Key Name here – not BB

  60. This is hilarious! I like Cam, but for the same reason we love him is the same reason he overvalues himself. Talent and skill wise he is worse than most on this list. Add in the age and there’s another knock. But the last thing on here, Minshew was paid what $900,000 last year and Cam made around $20,000,000! The salary cap is low this year and paying an old vet to replace the future makes no sense especially at those rates. I would love to see him realize this and take a backup role somewhere , maybe help a youngster develop.

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