Report: Deshaun Watson met with David Culley, refuses to play for Texans

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New Houston head coach David Culley got the word directly from the source: Deshaun Watson has no intention of playing for the Texans ever again.

Watson met with Culley on Friday and told him he wants to be traded, Dan Graziano of ESPN reports.

Although Watson hasn’t made that declaration publicly, it’s been clear for weeks that that is Watson’s stance. He does not want to play for the Texans and is angling for a trade.

Texans owner Cal McNair has insisted that Watson will remain a Texan, but at some point someone has to blink. The Texans could get an enormous haul of players and draft picks if they were willing to trade Watson, and with each new report that Watson remains dug in, the chances increase that the team will eventually relent and give Watson the trade he wants.

139 responses to “Report: Deshaun Watson met with David Culley, refuses to play for Texans

  1. This will get ugly. He can refuse to play, but won’t get paid. The Texans will have a crappy situation at QB.

  2. Unless Owners are enjoying all the publicity that comes with these egos. Then set a new standard, sit him. What’s the value of a QB who doesn’t play for a year.

  3. Ive never watched extensive Watson game footage. I saw the meme play in which he was kicked in the eye and threw a TD but is that his claim to fame? He has major DONOVAN MCNABB vibes to me.

  4. He will get traded– they will do we’ll– everyone will be happy. Cal MacNair has run this franchise about as badly as possible.

  5. 6burgh says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    Unless Owners are enjoying all the publicity that comes with these egos. Then set a new standard, sit him. What’s the value of a QB who doesn’t play for a year

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    Not nearly the value the Texans would receive if they were to trade him this offseason.

  6. With this cat out of the bag, Watson really screwed the owners bigtime as far as them fielding offers for leverage (whether they deserve it or not is another deal). He has immense value, but they’re now forces to take Indy/Philly style lowballs and work with it or not him and have a horrendous QB situation.

    Condolences, Texans fans.

  7. Wow,not looking to support one of the only minority head coaches in the league. Without Deshaun the Texans are done and David culley is too. Me first attitude for a guy who seems to be nothing but class.

  8. Sit on him. Build a team in the draft without him. Watch said team win more games without Watson. No play no pay. I seriously believe Watson is only damaging his worth all by himself. Doesn’t help that Houston is a legit dumpster fire.

  9. Yet again, another example of a kid inheriting a business he did not build and isn’t qualified to manage. The results speak for themselves. It happens all the time, the NFL isn’t any different.

  10. With this cat out of the bag, Watson really screwed the owners bigtime as far as them fielding offers for leverage (whether they deserve it or not is another deal). He has immense value, but they’re now forced to take Indy/Philly style lowballs and work with it or sit him and have a horrendous QB situation. Condolences, Texans fans.

  11. Yep…guess what…retire then…I will recoup your signing bonus and sue you for breach of contract plus fine you for contract detrimental…and you can sit for the next 15 years

  12. The Texans are feeling the burn of letting Bill O’Brien run things unmitigated for too long. The entire situation is ridiculous.

  13. Can someone please tell me why people do not want to play for millions. I will play for a quarter of that very easily. Again what is he mad at.

  14. I do not think they will get a large haul of players and picks for him. Who really wants him at this point? He is just another DIVA.

  15. So start bidding the Jets and Miami against each other already. Draft Wilson and Harris with your 2 1st you get move Tua or Darnold for more draft picks. Turn Watson into 4 1sts and 4 2

  16. Deshaun has been an excellnt player for the Texans, both on the field and off. If he is willing to pay penalties for not participating in OTAs, minicamps, training camp, and his regular season salary, plus pay back and bonus, kudos to him.

  17. Big Picture. Watson is 25. Sitting out for a year to get off the Texans might actually make money for him and extend his career. Option A ) Play for Texans on a horrible team and get physically beat up. Option B ) Sit out for a year, and then play for a quality organization that is going to help you succeed.

  18. What happens if the Texans just refuse? In that case does Watson not play ever again? I have no idea and hence just asking

  19. Sooner or later some NFL team is going to have to take a bullet for the rest of the league, otherwise this ego-centric diva behavior will continue at an ever-worsening rate until it crosses a line no one can come back from.
    By taking a bullet, I mean some team will have to take a stand and tell a player under contract he will play for them or no one. Period.
    Yes, it will play havoc with that team’s salary cap, its on-field performance, and will no doubt lead to the disgruntlement of the fanboy portion of its customers. The alternative is to let the players turn the NFL into the NBA, something no true football fan should ever want.
    What better team to take the point on this issue than the Houston Texans, who are in total disarray, aren’t going to win any time soon — with or without Deshaun Watson — and their fanbase is already in an uproar.
    Perhaps their NFL brethren could come up with some from of compensation, or dangle some sort of carrot to make it worth their while.
    The problem with too many millennial athletes is they lack the ability to discern between what they WANT and what they’re ENTITLED to. I have no problem with Deshaun Watson wanting certain things, like better payers around him, or to play for a winning team. But the bottom line is he’s very highly-paid to play football for the Texans and nothing else.
    Watson is an employee. He’s not the coach, the GM or the owner, and he has no God-given, Constitutional or other inalienable right to have his rear end kissed by his employers.

  20. Fascinating game of chicken of sorts. Texans unlikely to get his value back in trade and Watson unlikely to forfeit tens of millions in sitting out. The thing is, if the Texans wait until after the draft, a trade becomes harder to consummate.

  21. For those of you too young to know, Pete Roselle and Paul Tagliabue would have stepped in LONG ago seeing that the Texans are in some kind of self-destruction spiral!

    JJ Watt even asked to get off of this ship and Goodell is silent. Doing nothing. This isn’t about Watson, it’s about an embarrassing phenomenon with a franchise worse than my Redskins or the Browns!

  22. I have more respect for Watson than Russell. Unlike Watson doesn’t play games or posture to send mixed messages. Watson has come right out and said it “I don’t want to be here.” And who can blame? The team made a horrible trade for Tunsil, made a horrible trade involving Hopkins, and now is being run by a self-help evangelica, life coach guru. It is a complete dumpster fire. The owner may be comfortable with this clown show, but you can’t blame Watson for wanting no part of it.

  23. @Houston Front Office. See Trent Williams for reference. There becomes a point in time where you lose bargaining power. You’ve been warned.

    -Ex Redskin Fan; WFT Fan.

  24. I feel bad for fans. Watching millionaire power struggles. Most people are just looking for a break to help pay the rent.

    Players who get emotional about not having enough power is a new dynamic that is getting a lot of attention with Watson and now Wilson. It is part of the evolution of the sports landscape.

    Al Davis, considered a civil rights pioneer in the NFL, did not respond positively to players who wanted to be bigger than the team — he squatted on Marcus Allen for a couple of years just to prove his point.

    I think those days are over. But we’re dealing with Texas which is often seen as its own sovereign nation. Is a massive football corporation willing to play hardball on a player to prove its power? That would be intense.

  25. Those telling Watson to shut up and play don’t understand that the Texans have sunken to 2010s Browns level ineptitude and dysfunction, possibly worse. He needs to get out now while he can.

  26. Sit him if he refuses to play on his freshly signed contract. 2021 is destined to be a wasted year for the Texans, anyway. Might as well get a better draft pick in ’22.

  27. 60 5 Rate This
    6burgh says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:20 pm
    Unless Owners are enjoying all the publicity that comes with these egos. Then set a new standard, sit him. What’s the value of a QB who doesn’t play for a year.

    A waste of cap space and an asset that can be used to improve the team if he’s not going to be on the field. Yes he won’t get paid if he refuses to play, but it will still impact the cap because they will have to keep that space open incase he did decide to return, so it really doesn’t benefit the Texans in anyway other than keeping a little more money in the owner’s pocket.

  28. I don’t blame him. The texans are not looking like a well run organization. That being said, he signed a contract. Texans need to hold him to that or it sets a bad precedent

  29. At some point the Texans have to get as much as they can for him before the draft, if they wait until after the draft to call his bluff then they really are a mess because they would have wasted a season to take advantage of their rebuild. No JJ, no running game, No D-Hop, no Defense, No tight-ends and a bunch of 3rd tier receivers, why would anyone want to go play for the Texans?

  30. This has escalated quickly. Texans can hope he holds out, void his guarantees and force him to pay back his signing bonus, I guess. With the way they’ve handled the star WR and star QB they are ensuring they attract zero potential FA’s to clean up this mess in the event they ever come to their senses and hire a real GM and HC. What a tire fire…

  31. The comments on this about Watson is ridiculous. Even if he does get cut and pay back his salary and bonuses he would still do it because there’s about 20-25 other teams out there that will give 40million a year. He can sit out a year and comeback net year and still land 40+million deal. Because he’s that good. He is a top5 QB make no mistake about it and teams will not care about the Texan situation because the Texans shot themselves in the foot with the way they our handling things. Even the Bengals couldn’t have messed up this situation anymore. Trade him while you still have some leverage where there are multiple teams with multiple first rounders this year and in win now mode with young Qbs who still have potential. You could easily land multiple first rounders and 2nds and even players.

  32. Watson and Wilson, go start your own teams and play against each other. No one wants to hear the whining of multi multi millionaires who signed a contract and/or extension to play for that team. Don’t really care what happens to any of them.

  33. Just trade him and get a historic haul. You gain nothing by letting him sit other than a misplaced sense of pride and his trade value decreases the more time he misses.

  34. Deshaun, you signed a $156,000,000 contract through 2025.

    $156,000,000.

    You’re complaining about what exactly? You might consider looking around the world and seeing what’s going on. Playing football for the Texans isn’t the worst thing that could happen.

    I’m getting tired of overpaid jocks complaining.

  35. Maybe he can be the next social justice warrior? I hear it pays very well.

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    It’s presumptous to think he wants to be a social justice warrior in regards to his dissatisfaction with an inept organization. From the few statements he made after the season, the lack of a clear direction, discipline, and focus seems to indicate he wants no part of the disfunction. I commend him for his stance.

  36. HeavyD says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    Yet again, another example of a kid inheriting a business he did not build and isn’t qualified to manage.

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    What “Kid” are you talking about? You must be reeeeallly old to think a 51 year old man is a “kid”.
    And there’s only 2 ways to get a football franchise. You either buy one or or inherit one.

  37. If Watson sits out and tries to return after the Texans have made other QB plans,can they suspend him without pay for conduct detrimental to the team? Belichick did that to a RB who got 200yds in one game and thought it entitled him to skip practice, but that was Belichick and the situation has changed with respect to the relationship between players and management.

  38. Watson. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, it’s green where you water it. Your legacy could’ve been cemented by battling through adversity, but it’s now, when the going gets tough, Watson makes like a tree and leaves

  39. It’s not just sitting him for a year, if the Texans want to play this ugly, they can sit him for 5 more years. He is UFA in 2026 at 30 years old.

  40. There’s a reason the Texans hired a career position coach as the Head Coach.
    That’s the same reason Watson wants out.

  41. Watson is a great player. But even with him, HOU was 4-12. If HOU was smart, they would trade him to the Jets for three firsts (including two this year) two seconds and Darnold. They then could draft Zack Wilson and trade Darnold for still more picks. Of course Houston isn’t smart — the team is being run by a chaplain who knows nothing about football. The best Jack Easterby can offer the Texans are prayers, not savvy personnel moves. Count on the Texans bungling the whole situation.

  42. Call the bluff. You just signed a massive extension. Nothing’s changed.

    Sit – earn nothing. I guarantee he goes broke long before the Texans do and will “come back to the team because, these are my guys! I want to win for them” – we all know it’s just the wolf at the door – wanting their money he spent before he had it.

  43. Watson should force a trade to the Denver Broncos where he immediately becomes the best QB in the division.

  44. Let him sit. Won’t cost the Texans a dime. They’re a mess anyway so its not a big deal if they don’t get a return on him. Let him sit out as long as he wants to.

  45. “at some point someone has to blink.”

    No, no one has to blink. They could both punish the other and punish themselves at the same time. No QB for the Texans and no money for Watson. He is under contract through 2025. That is 5 seasons. The Texans may be able to come after him for a yearly repayment of the signing bonus if he never reports.

  46. Does this mean that his displeasure with Houston is now officially out there? Man, I thought the Patriots situation was bad… The QB aspect of the game is getting crazier every day.

  47. As much as I think Russell Wilson is acting childish I look a Watson is being a man about this. The McNair’s gave Bill O’Brian way too much control of the team and he drove the bus over a cliff. When their is no leadership from ownership then that team doesn’t have a hope. If Eric Bienemy gets the job Watson is ready to go to battle. This coach they hired is not fit to carry E.B.’s headphones. Watson wants out because he doesn’t trust OWNERSHIP to do the right thing. Can you seriously blame him?

  48. Sit him then cut him next year. Good luck getting offered 156 million dollar contract after a benched year with no stats for a year to back up your agents leverage.

  49. I hope the owners learn a lesson and stop overpaying these guys. They won’t, of course, so they will keep getting burned.

  50. The only trade that the Texans should consider is with Jacksonville for Trevor Lawrence straight up. Yes, the Texans will be bad this coming year with whoever plays QB (including Watson). I’m sure Watson is willing to sit out 1 year, but 2? That’s where the Texans have him by the you know what. Watson can’t have his cake and eat it as well. He did sign a massive contract, he should have thought about that deal, but you know for the athlete, its about the money. Anyway Watson should have the courtesy of giving back ALL his signing bonus and 10% of his payment from his previous contract for his freedom. I applaud the Texans for holding the line so far.

  51. Watson signed a contract, period, play or sit out. Texans are trying to build a better team. Watson could have been a hero but, now it’s I don’t like it so I want out. Too bad. There are other quarterbacks that we can get.It will be better this year with a decent play caller, which we haven’t had for years.

  52. It’s going to be interesting what the owners will want out of the next CBA. This might force a new one early.

    Quarterbacks take up way too high of a percentage of the cap (at least greedy ones do, and they’re almost all greedy, no matter how much some may say it’s a matter of “respect”). The guarantees and no trade clauses do as well. Then, add in the desire to “have a say” in personnel decisions (all the way up to gm? really???) and you’ve got an untenable situation, especially with organizations looking to build a team for the long term.

    Pull qbs out of the cap, set a separate cap for them, don’t let teams mortgage the future with ridiculous contract terms designed to stretch things out, and figure out a way for unhappy qbs to leave on reasonable terms (such as giving up a portion of their salaries, etc.

    Brady got his “no tag, no trade” contract with the Pats by taking a discount on salary. He got a say, but it’s not a mandatory say – he got it by building a lot of cred and then using that cred judiciously. The Bucs can ignore him at any time, if they want to, but they don’t because of the person he is.

    Frankly, the Watson/Wentz/Wilson situations disgust me. Some of the blame is on the organizations (McNair, you’ve lost your mind as well as your organization twice now, first with O’Brien, and then with Easterby), but frankly, both Watson and Wilson made their own beds. I have no problems whatsoever with their lying in them till they rot. Wentz’s is already rotting. He’ll be a backup within 3 years.

  53. the difference in responses to watson wanting off this team despite having a contract and watt successfully getting off this team despite having a contract are interesting.

  54. At this point it seems pretty clear that getting out of a dysfunctional organization that seems to be a million miles away from being a winner again is more important to Watson than money.

    Staying in Texas and taking their money would be easy and quite profitable.

    I think he’s just tired of the BS moves they’ve made over the last year or two and he just wants to go somewhere he can win.

  55. Being a young black man in America Watson, you also have a chance to set a beautiful example and fight through this situation. Not being condescending, there’s something bigger here Watson. You’ll be paid accordingly, which is a lot more then what MLK got

  56. Sit a player that is your best tradeable asset? That is at the very least STUPID & maybe some other things. Only someone thats never run a successful business would waste away their most valuable asset and get nothing for him. Trade him as quickly as possible before your team’s leverage goes down further.

  57. If it was so inept in Houston, why did he sign that contract only one year ago? You reap what you sow. Entitlement is the real issue here.

  58. Once my Jags load up in Free Agency, draft Lawrence and retool in the Draft … It’s over … Both the Texans and Colts will be Jaguar Bait !!! Only team standing in our way for the Division title will be the Titans !!!

    #JAGSNATIONRISEUP

  59. This is going to get interesting. He just signed a $156M contract extension last year and now all of a sudden he doesn’t want to play because they won’t give him control of the team. If he’s serious then he can retire and wait for his contract to expire in 2025. The problem is he’s virtually untradeable now. What has he won? Nothing. Any team that trades for him is going to be stuck with a mediocre QB who wants control over everything or he’ll pout and go home. How many teams are going to want a guy like that. It sounds like the Texans are in big trouble at QB so they may need to start looking now and get one in the draft. Then just suspend Watson if he doesn’t report. I wonder if the NFL would give the Texans salary cap relief is he sits out. At this point I’d be done with him but I wouldn’t let him go for nothing. And if I was a team interested in him I wouldn’t give up very much for a guy who’s likely going to be a problem. I bet the Texans really regret giving him that $39M/yr extension.

  60. I despise players who are under contract and demand to be traded. Man up and honer your contract! Upset because they didn’t ask your opinion on who the new head coach should be? So sad to bad! You are an employee. You are not the one signing the checks. A real man would suck it up, play the best ball he can this coming season, and then just not re-sign with them. Any potential new teams will not only respect you more for handling it that way, but they will probably toss more money your way as well. If you really dislike the franchise this much, why give them a chance to trade you and get a bunch of great picks? Play out your remaining year and move on. Then they get nothing.

  61. It looks like the Texans would take a $56,000,000 salary cap hit trading him….I don’t see how it would even be possible to trade him.

  62. To everyone calling out players for not living up to the contract they signed, just remember that the owners don’t live up to those contracts either. They will just cut the player on back-end loaded contracts. See J.J. Watt. So, I view the whole “signed contract” thing as simply tit for tat – if the owners don’t have to live up to their end of the bargain, then neither does the player. The irony with back-end loaded contracts is that the player is banking on still being healthy/effective while the team can postpone paying for services and then cut bait if they aren’t healthy. So the irony comes in when the player sees early on in the contract that he doesn’t like the way the team is heading, so he plays his card of wanting out. Again, seems like tit for tat to me. Don’t get me wrong, it’s messy and I don’t care for it on both sides. But it is what it is.

    So, for the team, it comes down to ego and “the principle of the thing” vs getting what you can for him while you can. Le’Veon Bell and Trent Williams – I don’t see that they lost out on anything from sitting out for a year. Seems like a simple decision to me, but this team is not exactly known for good decisions…

  63. Sorry, I don’t have sympathy or “respect” for any player who makes MILLIONS and whines if he thinks his team is not good enough for him to play for it.

    Lost respect for Wilson, never had it For Jackson, and won’t have it for ANY OTHER QB who refuses to play for the team they signed a contract with.

    NFL owners would be smart to put in clauses in these huge contracts that bring financial implications of a QB refuses to play for XX amount of the contract, and take a little control back.

    This is ridiculous.

  64. drjohn says:
    the difference in responses to watson wanting off this team despite having a contract and watt successfully getting off this team despite having a contract are interesting.
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    Not really.
    Deshaun Watson is a young guy who plays the most important position in football. They just paid him a king’s ransom to be their QB for the long haul, then mere months after signing his deal — which included a ton of guaranteed money — he wants to leave them high and dry.
    J.J. Watt has been the face of the Texans for many years, and has been highly visible in charitable actions. The Texans know he’s been oft-injured of late, and is no longer the player his reputation suggests. They also knew with his injury history and the salary cap shrinking they likely would not get much in a trade.
    A 4-win team even with Watson, Houston likely was looking for a way to shed Watt’s contract while not appearing cold. He provided it by asking out. They shed his contract and still got to look like the good guys doing it.
    Two totally different situations, and your implied suggestion this is racial holds no water.

  65. It’s a TRAP! says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:26 pm
    Call his bluff
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    Watson’s not bluffing and he’s holding all the cards. Just watch.

  66. Ok – time to prove a point – just let him sit there and continue to fine him to the max that his contract and the NFLPA agreement allows. Nobody is bigger than the team and he needs to be shown that.

  67. I wonder if h is refusal to play voids his NEW $177 million, $111 million guaranteed contract that HE SIGNED IN SEPTEMBER. What a prima donna!

  68. It’s going to be interesting what the owners will want out of the next CBA. This might force a new one early.

    Quarterbacks take up way too high of a percentage of the cap (at least greedy ones do, and they’re almost all greedy, no matter how much some may say it’s a matter of “respect”). The guarantees and no trade clauses do as well. Then, add in the desire to “have a say” in personnel decisions (all the way up to gm? really???) and you’ve got an untenable situation, especially with organizations looking to build a team for the long term.

    Pull qbs out of the cap, set a separate cap for them, don’t let teams mortgage the future with ridiculous contract terms designed to stretch things out, and figure out a way for unhappy qbs to leave on reasonable terms (such as giving up a portion of their salaries, etc.
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    Why do teams keep doing this then? This isn’t new at all. QBs have been taking up disproportionate amounts of the cap for 30 years. You can go down the line with every HOF QB since the early 90s; ALL of them got huge paydays. Each and every one, up to this day.

    For the teams that can’t balance their books; why should they get bailed out?

  69. So he signed a contract and took their money. If they want to make an example I’m sure they are in position to do so. If they don’t want to play hard ball trade him to best offer.

  70. jac1216 says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:29 pm
    Can someone please tell me why people do not want to play for millions. I will play for a quarter of that very easily. Again what is he mad at.

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    I will as well, but no one wants to see that…except fans of the team I would be playing against.

  71. Watson has to realize that if he’s traded and the value currently reported he’s new team becomes the Texans. Take the Panthers, Peter King has a 7 for 1 deal. CMC, Bridgewater, Burns, 2021 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st & 2023 3rd. Also, if he’s as advertised Moore and Anderson both on the final year of the contract will put up career numbers & will expect top 5 WR money…if teams spends 50% of the cap on the offense who’s he going to throw to in 2022?

  72. The Texans could have avoided this by not telling him he would have input in to the hiring of the coach and when the time comes, they hire someone without talking to him. No one gets the power to hire your boss, but the Texans shouldn’t have told him that.

  73. Gonna suck when he’s watching games on TV and making a $0 salary. I’ve always liked Deshaun buts it’s hard to feel sorry for him. The Texans are a mess, Jack Easterby is a snake oil salesman and Cal McNair is the personification of a billionaire’s dufus son. But he hasn’t even started the massive contract extension that he just signed.

  74. I get all the people with the “honor your contract” stance. I really do.

    And the day you start holding the owners to the same standard, I’ll agree with you.

    Until then, not so much.

  75. –It’s presumptous to think he wants to be a social justice warrior in regards to his dissatisfaction with an inept organization. From the few statements he made after the season, the lack of a clear direction, discipline, and focus seems to indicate he wants no part of the disfunction. I commend him for his stance.–

    Problem is they were inept when he signed his huge extension a few months ago. What changed? BOB getting fired? Like that’s a bad thing? If I’m a team trading the world for Watson, why should I feel confident he’s not going to want to leave my team 5 minutes later, too?

  76. I live in the Carolinas and right in the middle of Panther country. I’m hearing the team is willing to go all out to land a franchise QB. I could see the front office easily giving up 3 first round draft choices…and possibly a starter like MaCaffrey… to land him. Houston has a QB who doesn’t want to be there. The defensive face of their franchise is now a free agent. And, they’re missing #1 picks for the next couple of years.

    “If” Houston drafted wisely they could use the additional picks to rebuild their team in a hurry. I could understand their reasoning if they decided to cut bait with Watson and move on. It could be best for both parties.

  77. He’s not going anywhere he signed a contract extension last year. He has zero leverage. Let him sit and fine him everyday, the owners have all the cards here.

  78. The prayers for enlightenment don’t seem to have had much effect. Maybe the Texans should pray harder. They don’t have 1st or 2nd round picks for the forseeable. Trade Watson now before the draft to get at least 3 firsts, couple of seconds and maybe a player or two. THAT would be smart. But sadly, I can’t see it…

  79. “ Option B ) Sit out for a year, and then play for a quality organization that is going to help you succeed.”

    That won’t work, he has more than a year left on his contract, the year off also doesn’t count as a contract year anyway so everyone would be in the same boat next year with Houston owning his contract and Watson wanting out.

  80. Him and Wilson put on a great public face. They say all of the right things and act positive, but now we’re starting to see how it’s a front and they’re just spoiled. They’re not getting their way so now they pout. I’ll guess a lot of people don’t get their way when employed by others or involved in some type of hierarchy. I dunno, where I come from, if anyone signs a contract that’s been authenticated by both parties involved and one side decides to breach the language of the contract, then the other has recourse to enforce or invalidate that contract. I’m sure he’s comfortable on his rookie deal now and whatever earned monies from this contract, but I’m also sure his spending habits, those of his family and hanger-ons and of course employee costs are going to eat into that cash if he sits and the Texans stop paying and even recoup a chunk of his pay.

  81. People are talking about contracts, but obviously don’t understand the contracts.

    Both sides sign a contract. The contract lists the penalties for each side if they don’t fulfill the contract. If Watson decides to hold out, he is allowed to, but must pay the penalty, as listed in the contract.
    Similarly, the Texans can kick Watson off of the team, but then they pay the penalty, listed in the contract.

    Both sides regularly break the contracts. That’s how it works.

  82. Texans are not a good football team with him or without him. This is a rebuild from the foundation. Make a trade, get a haul of picks and move on.

  83. You signed an extension. Either honor it, or sit and don’t get paid. That should be his choice.

  84. Win-Win! Texans tank get good draft picks and eventually trade watson to the jets, get a ton of picks. then right back to the top.

  85. Watson can still get paid, even if he doesn’t get on the field. If the Texans want to play hardball, Watson can go to practice and just go half speed, and then come up with a mysterious illness every Sunday. There ain’t a darn thing the Texans can do about that, and the other NFL teams won’t hold it against Watson. They know how nutty the Texans’ organization is. At some point, the league will step in and either force the owner to sell, or force a trade.

  86. I sit him, and then fine him when he acts out which he will, and then I suspend him, and take his money. Then I leave him off the field indefinitely, and then watch him go broke

  87. Guy has had quality talent around him and has won nothing.

    All these QB’s are doing is driving their money down because owners are going to give them their rookie deal and if they don’t win they will be gone. The days of Rodgers, Roethliberger’s, and Brees are gone. QB’s will be like coaches, win or you’re out…

    Look at running backs and wide receiver’s, it’s over.

  88. I believe that the Texans are going to make a trade/move only if Watson really convinces them he won’t report to camp & they can get a very good franchise QB, save $ for other positions, save face, and get extra picks that will make significant impacts in next few years. This process will certainly continue to deteriorate much more before anything changes.

  89. My guess is that Watson will sit out some or most of the season and forfeit his paycheck. Which is a shame because he signed that contract just a few months before he demanded to be traded. Can’t have it both ways DeShaun. If you sign a 9 figure contract, you need to be prepared to eat some poop along the way. I feel no sympathy for Watson. Zero.

  90. radar8 says:
    February 25, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    People are talking about contracts, but obviously don’t understand the contracts.

    Both sides sign a contract. The contract lists the penalties for each side if they don’t fulfill the contract. If Watson decides to hold out, he is allowed to, but must pay the penalty, as listed in the contract.
    Similarly, the Texans can kick Watson off of the team, but then they pay the penalty, listed in the contract.

    Both sides regularly break the contracts. That’s how it works.

    ———————————-

    Mr. contracts professor there. Well let me educate you son. 9 figure service contracts are the rarest of rarities. By failing to honor his obligations under this massive contract, Watson can and should be held accountable.

  91. “He can refuse to play, but won’t get paid.”

    * * * * *

    Joe Fan has not processed that Deshaun Watson can make this stance because HE DOES NOT NEED THEIR MONEY.

    Go that, Joe Fan?

    Deshaun met with his agent, his lawyers, his financial planner, and his accountant before he took this stance.

    He does not need the Texans’s money.

    And that is why he can afford to tell them he will sit on his couch rather than play for the most dysfunctional team in sports, which is now under the control of some religious nut.

  92. “I sit him, and then fine him when he acts out which he will, and then I suspend him, and take his money.”

    icouldcareless does not seem to grasp that Deshaun Watson doesn’t need their money. So that dog? It ain’t gonna hunt, son.

  93. campcouch said “and one side decides to breach the language of the contract . . . .”

    This is a serious problem — Joe Fan has no idea how NFL contracts work, yet Joe Fan spouts his opinion anyway.

    If Deshaun Watson decided to sit all of next year because he was not traded, that would not “breach” the contract. He would accept the penalties in the contract. The team would not pay him. And everyone is happy.

    Deshaun has a contract to play football for a certain salary to whatever team owns those rights. He is simply refusing to play for the most dysfunctional team in American sports. They can and should trade him to a less dysfunctional team . . . one that is not run by a clueless heir and some TV preacher type religious nut who fancies himself an NFL executive.

  94. Watson needs to go public and say McNair (or other higher ups) did something horrible to him. Otherwise he just comes off as a spoiled brat.

  95. Until I see Watson waive his no trade clause, then all his postering is BS.
    How bad do you want out DeShaun, maybe not bad enough, he wants his cake and to eat it also.

  96. Michael Nguyen says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    The comments on this about Watson is ridiculous. Even if he does get cut and pay back his salary and bonuses he would still do it because there’s about 20-25 other teams out there that will give 40million a year. He can sit out a year and comeback net year and still land 40+million deal.

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    No he cannot sit out a year and come back and land a 40+million deal. He is under contract with Houston for the next 5 years. If he sits out a year, he loses his 2021 salary and would come back in 2022 as under contract with Houston for the next 4 seasons.

  97. For all of you talking about Watson should honor his contract, funny how you have nothing to say when the teams cut players with years left on their contracts. You’re just a bunch of hypocrites.

  98. Let him hold out, tank the year and save the money. Then see what you can get for him next year.

  99. At this point, Watson has surely poisoned the well. Do not see how he could possibly return to the field in Houston — fans would not have him.

  100. boogermcf says:
    February 25, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    radar8 says:
    February 25, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    People are talking about contracts, but obviously don’t understand the contracts.

    Both sides sign a contract. The contract lists the penalties for each side if they don’t fulfill the contract. If Watson decides to hold out, he is allowed to, but must pay the penalty, as listed in the contract.
    Similarly, the Texans can kick Watson off of the team, but then they pay the penalty, listed in the contract.

    Both sides regularly break the contracts. That’s how it works.

    ———————————-

    Mr. contracts professor there. Well let me educate you son. 9 figure service contracts are the rarest of rarities. By failing to honor his obligations under this massive contract, Watson can and should be held accountable.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Contracts 101.

    Penalties are unenforceable in contracts. Remedies for breach of a contract are contract damages or termination, reserving the right to seek damages.

    An employment contract can not force a person to work. As they say, Lincoln freed the slaves. It’s possible to get an injunction that prohibits the person under contract from working for anyone else until they fulfill the contract, but courts are also loathe to tell a person they can not earn living.

    So .. for Watson, if it comes to that, the Texans may be able to enjoin him from playing QB for any other NFL team while under contract, but probably can not stop him from taking a job as a Domino’s delivery driver, for example.

  101. Bengals tried this dance with Palmer, ultimately he won and they only got a single first instead of the two firsts they were originally offered. These players are young and have good management telling them how to play the guys who wants to keep making money off them. I expect him to be traded before the season starts, or sit out this season and come back next and be traded for a fraction of what the Texans could have gotten this year. Everyone saying let him rot would run a business into the ground with that philosophy you need to get value where and when you can.

  102. bradygirl12 says:
    February 25, 2021 at 4:13 pm
    Does this mean that his displeasure with Houston is now officially out there? Man, I thought the Patriots situation was bad… The QB aspect of the game is getting crazier every day. Nothing wrong with the Pat’s they live rent free in the minds haters forever.

  103. The owners and GMs are at fault for this problem. They’ve overpaid mediocre or unproven qbs, so the good ones are demanding more, so much, it’s making some of them de-facto GMs, their salaries are really determining the roster. And it gives them a new type of leverage, you’re seeing it happen in this situation.

  104. Trade him and get the most value out of him. Go get a boat load of draft picks. Why waste time?!

  105. whateverworks77 says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:26 pm
    Yep…guess what…retire then…I will recoup your signing bonus and sue you for breach of contract plus fine you for contract detrimental…and you can sit for the next 15 years
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    You obviously have no idea how the NFL works. Sue for breach of contract for a player who retires? Hahahahahahaahahahah.

  106. A piece here about the NFL turning into teh NBA has a ring of truth about it. Unless some team stands up to teh validity of contracts many of the NFL current contracts will become very one-sided. teh recent rule changes have made it a very QB focused game and that hands a great deal of power to QBs, contracts or not.

  107. Owners and GM’s keep giving into these whiny overpaid athletics. As the NFL slowly burns. I have not watched a NFL in two years, however it is fun once in a while to read and article on these babies. It’s like a train wreck, you know you shouldn’t watch, but at the least minute…lol It’s hockey season baby.

  108. The Texans were 4-12 last season and everyone is acting like they were winless and defeated by 60 points each game.
    And because Watt wants to leave, they are a sinking ship? He gets hurt every season and contributes very little now. Geez, watch the games.

  109. Texans need to stick to their guns, not trade him, and let him decide if he wants to end his career or not. They just gave him a monster contract he wanted, moved Hopkins because they couldn’t afford over $60 million between 2 players, and now he’s upset. Watt complained about players not showing up doing their work, sounds like a leadership problem… The Texans are no better off if they trade him, no QB is no QB, hold him. Diamond hands.

  110. They were bad with him and can be bad without him. He really doesn’t have a ton of leverage here. They won’t be paying him if he holds out and he will be getting fined the max to boot. He has money in the bank, but even retiring means he has to give back about 20 million….and the Texans would still own his contract rights like the Pats did with Gronk.

  111. these guys are clowns…you signed a contract you’re stuck bud…you don;t want to play don’t get paid..like guy above said houston is gonna be garbage this year anyway with or without watson, let him sulk it out and houston will get a great draft pick…he has zero leverage

  112. The people that are saying he should sit out the year and then be able to go to a better situation, don’t you realize he just signed a new 4 yr contract and then the Texans could realistically franchise him for 2 more after that!!!! So unless he’s willing to sit for say 6yrs , he better play!! He should retire and get another job making the new $15 minimum wage.!! I’d make him retire!!!!!

  113. Why sign a contract extension last year? Big baby! Want,Want,take my ball and im going home! SEE YA!

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