Report: Russell Wilson thinks Pete Carroll and his sons answer to no one

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Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson hasn’t only played for head coach Pete Carroll for his entire career. He has also played for both of Carroll’s sons, who have been offensive assistants in Seattle: Nate Carroll is the Seahawks’ wide receivers coach, and Brennan Carroll recently left his role as Seahawks run game coordinator to work at the University of Arizona.

Wilson has been widely reported to be frustrated with Pete Carroll, and he’s also reportedly frustrated with Carroll’s sons.

According to a report from TheAthletic.com, Wilson and those around him believe Carroll and his sons answer to no one.

A particularly unusual development occurred when Nate Carroll stepped away from his job because he was frustrated with his role and made his unhappiness known to his players, according to the report.

Pete Carroll himself has indicated that Nate and Brennan were the two coaches on the staff who held him accountable.

“I’m [going to] really miss Brennan not being part of our club because he and Nate have been really big factors because they’ll tell me stuff other guys won’t tell me,” Pete Carroll said last month. “They have always been really instrumental, and moving forward, I’m going to miss something there.”

Wilson has not demanded a raise from the Seahawks, but he has made it known that he has a list of teams he would like to be traded to, if and when the two sides get a divorce.

108 responses to “Report: Russell Wilson thinks Pete Carroll and his sons answer to no one

  1. Last I checked Carrol was the coach. Who is in charge, every origination has a top person. Who do does not answer to anyone.

  2. How different thing would be if Marshawn could have just run in it for a touchdown. Caroll might be the HC of a dynasty, oh well.

  3. You can’t rewrite history, but just think how different things would have gone in Seattle if Carroll elected to just hand the ball to Lynch. One play had a lot of ramifications.

  4. Pete Carroll & his sons don’t answer to Russ. No HC has to answer to his players. Head Coaches only have to answer to the people that hired them. This is not hard to figure out.

  5. Man, Russ decided to just burn the kitchen down instead of just letting him cook…

  6. Nothing like good, old fashioned nepotism. Belichick leading the league at the moment, Andy and Pete closing in

  7. Nepotism apparently is a major subset of the exclusive and highly lucrative carousel (you can’t get fired – you simply move on to another team) that is NFL coaching. Bill Belichick also has two of his sons on his staff, Andy Reid had a son on his staff, etc. Why not? It would be next to impossible for the offspring to make the same money in the real world unless they were brain surgeons.

  8. I get being frustrated with an employer but it doesnt feel productive to air all this dirty laundry through the press. Is there really no one in the Seahawks organization that Wilson could have discussed his problems with? Is Carrol that unreasonable that he wouldn’t have listened? Same with Schneider or Allen? I usually side with the players when they get frustrated with teams but at some point you should give the team/organization a chance by going to them first. And maybe he did and was ignored but this just seems childish

  9. Seattle fans should be passed at Philadelphia for letting pouty Wentz out of his contract. All it takes is one domino.

  10. Call me crazy but players and staff answer to the head coach, not the other way around. Wilson comes off as more unlikable with each report that comes out.

  11. Pete Carroll had a losing record before he had Russell Wilson, and he’ll have a losing record after he’s gone.

  12. “Wilson has not demanded a raise from the Seahawks, but”…
    That would be a final straw for the Seahawks. Sulking about your team and then squeezing them more would be it. If he truly wants to help them get better take a page from Brady – you know, six time Super Bowl winner Brady – and take less money to help the team fill out the roster.

  13. Trade him away to some bottom feeder and let his ungrateful ars rot away the rest of his football years. No fans want to hear this level of pout and whine from a player…ever!

  14. There is a hypocrisy involved when one is supposed to be doing what’s best for the team, and then they hire their kids. I’m not on board with Wilson wanting to be the GM, but his gripe about the kids is legit.

  15. Russ, SHUT UP ALREADY! You have good RBs, the best WR tandem in football. Cry me a river!

  16. andymannfl says:
    February 27, 2021 at 8:25 am
    “Wilson has not demanded a raise from the Seahawks, but”…
    That would be a final straw for the Seahawks. Sulking about your team and then squeezing them more would be it. If he truly wants to help them get better take a page from Brady – you know, six time Super Bowl winner Brady – and take less money to help the team fill out the roster.
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    7 actually

  17. Wilson owes his whole career to Carroll. He gave up a Super Bowl trying to make Wilson the MVP.

  18. You can eat the dead cap hit you get when you trade Wilson by trading a bunch of other players and releasing a bunch of veterans.

    Once they trade Wilson, it’s a total rebuild. Go all in on the rebuild and just eat the dead cap.

  19. This is all a result of what just happened in Tampa.

    Brady went there. They drafted a tackle to protect him, signed one his best friends (Gronk) and took his advice on signing two free agents (AB, Fournette) and they won a SB.

    That’s what Wilson wants. I suspect Aaron Rodgers will be doing the same thing a year from now, even though it may be possible he still does it this year.

    The difference, of course, is Brady was a free agent. Russ seems to think whatever team gives up three No. 1s or the equivalent will still be able to give him what he wants.

  20. If the Carroll and sons answer to no one, what would Patriots and Robert Kraft think about Belichick and sons? Just crazy to think that Belichick really put the team interest first ahead of his own in the last several years, nudging Brady out with no back up plan, unproven son calling the defense, trading Jimmy G for nothing, pulling Butler out of lineup at last minute of superbowl…..The list goes on and on.

    We are all sinners with self interest including Belichick, and the Pats need to have a check and balance on Belichicks.

  21. The NFL has allowed these players to feel they are the owners. Wilson has had a great career in Seattle and made tons of money now his self importance has taken over. Crying now makes you look even more selfish, of course that is what we see more and more of in the NFL

  22. Give a guy some money and he thinks he’s the boss.

    Wilson “and those around him” probably think exactly that – he makes more than anyone besides the owner, so why should he have to listen to anyone else?

    This is what wealth does. It distorts people and creates a huge sense of entitlement. As contracts grow we will only see more of it.

  23. Bill Belichick has both his sons working for him. Ask Tom Brady.

    Nepotism is common in the NFL. Sons grow up watching and learning from their fathers. Most of these sons-i won’t say all=but most turn out being good coaches.

  24. Russel Wilson=Overrated. What he’s really saying is where it the legion of Boom and Marshawn, without them we have no chance. Nice leadership Russ, maybe you should start making the team listen to your girlfriends playlist at practice for motivation.
    Joe Flacco never did that.

  25. Franchise QBs > Any coach in NFL history.

    The power is in the talent.

    Deshaun Watson is in the same boat. Cal McNair owns the team, Watson owns the leverage.

  26. Why would anyone question the brilliance of Nate Carroll or Steve Belichick? I love that meme of Steve standing in front of a rusted out pickup, hay straw in mouth, with that pensive look on his face, contemplating his next chess move.

  27. And all of a sudden the rest of the NFC West just jumped up in the standings and it isn’t even kickoff yet.

  28. He is correct. The coaches run the team, not the QB.

    That’s why Seahawks went from a doormat to a powerhouse under Carroll

  29. I mean, you shouldn’t answer to a guy who complains about a bad oline, but wants to be traded to either the Cowboys or Bears.

  30. The more control they give the players the more they’ll use it to ruin the game. You get paid millions, shut up and play your game and quit pretending any of your problems are actual, real problems.

  31. Ever since Paul Allen died, I’ve often wondered “Who does Pete answer to?” I’ve had that thought after watching mistakes go uncorrected sometimes for an entire season. – wasted time outs; terrible clock management at the end of the half or of the game; the slow start of the offense; the list is pretty extensive. Who exactly does he answer to and does he answer like he does with the press – dancing around the subject, contesting the premise of the questions asked and then spinning an answer that fits his philosophy? What is “Tell the Truth Monday?” And if Pete and Russ talk to each other the way each of them talk to the public, then one has to9 wonder if they can even get to the root of the problems.

  32. Odd that there is no quote ANYWHERE of Wilson saying anything even close to what is being reported here.

    Russell is not pleased with not being included at all in decisions being made from a personnel stand point. Those issues have nothing to do with Pete Carroll and his sons.

    Russell Wilson has a issue with John Schneider.

  33. I agree every person should be accountable to someone else and im sure Pete Carroll is , he answers to the owner . Does Wilson think he should be held accountable by him or the team ? Head coaching wouldn’t work like that. I’m guessing he’s not happy and just looking for any way to get out . Crazy to think Wilson and Watson could both be playing for new teams in 2021.

  34. It’s time that these owners and G.M.’s include these QB’s in on the decision of which QB in the draft is best suited to take over for a diva.

  35. I see Carroll’s sons as a big plus. Every team is different, but in many cases there are some on the coaching staff who are afraid to be completely honest with the head coach, and they try to go through the coach that has the closest relationship with the head guy. And at the same time, sometimes the head coach keeps a little distance because you have to end up firing guys, and it’s hard to do if you’re too close. The sons filter the information going in both directions. If you work for a team, you know exactly what I’m talking about. If this is bothersome to Russell, I can think of a couple teams on his list that he better cross off right now. In fact, I’d say the Seahawks’ environment is better than most. Much better. If there was ever a situation where the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the fence, it’s this one. Figuratively and literally, in Seattle.

  36. People crying nepotism are hypocrites. If you were in the same position you would hire your kids to help make it easier for them to get into the industry or you would talk to another coach who is your friend to give them a shot everyone in the world does it welcome to life and stop acting like you wouldn’t do it also.

  37. It sounds to me that Russell Wilson feels he isn’t accountable to anyone either and somehow thinks he runs the team. Yeah, so much for Mr. Nice Guy. He seems to think everyone hangs on his every word. Outside of Seattle everyone thinks he’s over-rated and a spoiled brat.

  38. There is nothing wrong with a long-time MVP voicing an opinion, and expecting to be listened to, not dismissed, for 5 minutes, if that is all Wilson expected. And in dynamic business organizations I bet a similarly productive leading employee would also be listened to. In fact it strikes me as foolish to dismiss the opinions of a productive employee. Now nepotism on the other hand….

  39. Carroll runs everything in Seattle, why would he answer to someone on anything football related except the owner?

  40. Ultra tired of all this crap.

    Baseball lost me after he strike in 1994. And I can feel myself drawing away from the NFL.

  41. Everybody blames Pete Carroll for the pass that went to Butler, handing the Super Bowl to the Patriots. But what about Russ..the “great” Russ? He’s allowed to change the play, to call an audible, but he decided to throw it.

    Does Russ get any blame or is it all on Carroll?

  42. Pete was initially hired as the top dog of the organization. It’s a unique structure where he is not answerable to the GM, as in most organizations. Why say it, reportedly, in derogatory terms? The unhappiness already is understood. The team has already taken calls about possible trades. Airing issues to show you’re not happy, but then limiting areas you’re willing to go makes little sense. It almost appears to be a power play that is looking to take down the Coach. That’s just not going to happen.

  43. I’ve never thought all that much of Wilson as a person as he seems phony. However, I’ve got no issue with him expressing his concerns over personnel, systems or coaching other than going public. What’s the big deal with an employee seeking a more favorable work environment, particularly one that’s performed like he has? This shut up and work and stay in your lane crap sounds like the 1950s.

  44. I can’t wait for the post Russ era to begin. I love the Seahawks and I am grateful for the wins but I think this has expired. It’s time to move on.

  45. jw94 says:
    February 27, 2021 at 9:32 am
    If the Carroll and sons answer to no one, what would Patriots and Robert Kraft think about Belichick and sons? Just crazy to think that Belichick really put the team interest first ahead of his own in the last several years, nudging Brady out with no back up plan, unproven son calling the defense, trading Jimmy G for nothing, pulling Butler out of lineup at last minute of superbowl…..The list goes on and on.

    We are all sinners with self interest including Belichick, and the Pats need to have a check and balance on Belichicks.

    Agree on Brady and no back up plan. Jimmy G for a second isn’t nothing but it wasn’t enough. Pulling Butler? Selfishly I wish he hadn’t but man if he deserved it then good on Bill. Of course we don’t and probably won’t know the whole story behind that. As for his unproven son? Well the kid has been at his fathers knee since he was a young boy. Was a position coach of multiple positions and his defense ranked 7th in yards allowed with the two top tacklers opting out. If we’re talking unqualified son’s getting cushy jobs I seriously doubt Bill would let family get ahead of his desire to win. I predict the kid who sounds EXACTLY like his Dad will someday be a head coach in the NFL.

  46. But, Russell Wilson is not getting traded anytime soon, according to some players. If that’s the case, he’ll probably end up signing with some other team when he becomes a free agent. What team would give up multiple first-round picks for this guy?

  47. Employees, no matter how good they are at the job, cannot tell the CEO how to run their business.

    Russ is essentially trying to do that with Carroll. Maybe he got the idea from Watson.

  48. Hey Russell, maybe they don’t. What business is that of yours? NONE… that’s what. Maybe if you had taken less money and not eaten such a huge chunk of the salary cap they could get better players around you. Instead they have to take what they can get into the line up. I didn’t hear you complaining when you were winning. Sometimes a teams “Mr. Everything” isn’t always what he seems to be.

  49. purpleguy says:
    What’s the big deal with an employee seeking a more favorable work environment, particularly one that’s performed like he has? This shut up and work and stay in your lane crap sounds like the 1950s.
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    Ridiculous! Seeking a more favorable work environment could include a great many things, but trying to tell management y9u should have a say in which employees it should surround you with is most certainly not one of the them.

  50. Ironic. When Wilson threw an interception in the penultimate play of the game to lose SB 49 to the Patriots, the word on the street was that the reason Carroll didn’t give the ball to Marshawn Lynch was because Carroll wanted to elevate the star quality of his QB, Russell Wilson.

    Now, here we are.

  51. This is getting ridiculous. And old. And boring.

    Yesterday, Wilson’s rep said that Wilson hadn’t asked to be traded (but if he were to be traded he only wanted to be traded to certain teams). Today more shady stories coming from Wilson’s camp.

    Talk about wanting to eat your cake & having it too.

    Either ask to be traded or keep the dirty laundry inside the team.

  52. Pete Carroll maybe an arrogant piece of work, but Wilson somehow is less likeable than him. At least old Pete knows how to take it on the chin and not cry about it for 7 years.

  53. Executive President of Football Operations and Head Coach….so no, he does not report to a player.

    Time to grow up RW…

  54. Anybody who complains about Seattle may be in for a serious wakeup call anywhere else…

    Carroll has made the playoffs eight out of the last nine seasons and has nine straight winning seasons. The relationship between Carroll and Schneider is the one that most other NFL teams are trying desperately to duplicate. Sure, Seattle has whiffed on a few picks and had to let a few key players go because of age/salary, but that franchise has been run remarkably well since Carroll and Schneider arrived…

    And keep in mind, all this is coming from a Niners fan. 🙂

  55. Russell hasn’t accomplished much in the post season since the legion of boom and beast mode days. Just empty regular season stats.

  56. collectordude says:
    February 27, 2021 at 8:42 am
    He sure is trying to get himself traded.
    Diva.
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    Collectordude get ready for being a basement dweller soon. Carroll has grossly mismanaged this team which in mind could have been a dynasty.

  57. Just curious, but did you all have the same problems when Aaron Rodgers voiced his opinions/complaints on the Packers offensive schemes in prior years? What do you think he would have done if his views were dismissed?

  58. “There is nothing wrong with a long-time MVP voicing an opinion,….”

    Not only was Wilson NEVER an MVP, he never even got one vote for MVP.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good QB….just not an MVP.

  59. This whole scenario is very familiar and is orchestrated by the agents. Express your dissatisfaction. Then have a deniable but true story of entanglement with the coaching staff, then suggest if they are upset with you where you would be willing to go, then say oh but I like it here too, then when nothing happens, have a third party say something bad about the head coach to piss him off.
    Ergo he wants out bad and see’s his playing days in Seattle as not producing enough glory for his own ego.

  60. As a Niners fan, I think it is best for everyone involved if Russ and Pete continue to fight until they can’t stand each other and destroy the team. It just seems like the most positive, healthiest thing to do at this time.

  61. radar8 says:

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good QB….just not an MVP.

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    I meant MVP of the team. I believe an experienced team leader/MVP is entitled to voice his opinion briefly and privately to the coach. All the coach then needs to do is spend 5 minutes explaining why he disagrees. A little respect is not much to ask for.

  62. When the Seahawks traded away future first round draft picks for Jamal Adams and picked up veteran skill players like Greg Olsen and Carlos Dunlap, they were obviously going “ALL IN” for the Super Bowl. Surprisingly, Pete Carroll got an new contract at the midpoint (and it turns out their high point) of the season. But Adams was broken down at the end of the season; Olsen didn’t work out as planned either. When the team got booted out of the Wild Card Round, there was going to be a reckoning for the failure to achieve.
    And now it looks like Wilson is a leaky boat, unable to hold his water in the storm at the same time not being able to publicly own his part in the team’s second half failure. Everybody looks bad from the owner on down because of a bet that didn’t pay off.

  63. andymannfl says:
    February 27, 2021 at 8:25 am

    “Wilson has not demanded a raise from the Seahawks, but”…
    That would be a final straw for the Seahawks. Sulking about your team and then squeezing them more would be it. If he truly wants to help them get better take a page from Brady – you know, six time Super Bowl winner Brady – and take less money to help the team fill out the roster.

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    Does that mean you’ll be going to whomever pays you Monday morning and telling them you’re going to take a voluntary pay cut in order to help make them more profitable? Or is this just advice that applies to others?

  64. After 9 seasons in Seattle who can blame Wilson, just look how that organization has mistreated him,
    9 seasons $162,362,520
    I asked who could live or be happy playing Football for that kind of chump change.

  65. Give him back whatever play-calling autonomy he wants… I understand the comprehensive philosophy/taking air out of the ball, but should have tolerated the phony D narrative and still tried to ramp up the offense a little more at the end. I wasn’t predicting this, but did notice Russ basically in an argument twice (Giants and Rams games), either with or through Chad Mortons head-set, where I’ve never seen him half that pissed, and then obviously some kind of fight happened after the Rams game that seems to have set things in motion. Anyhow, I’d imagine there will be a number of hiqh quality O-line free agents we will have chances to sign although I’d much rather see it be a guard or even stud tackle vs. Lindsley. Go Hawks!

  66. He doesn’t answer to anyone, Russ.

    He answered to Paul Allen. That was it.

    Tuck it in, or demand a trade. This was a new low for you.

  67. Who’s the better puppeteer…Nessa or Ciara? It’s time for Wilson to move on and enjoy the rest of his career…this is another case of addition through subtraction.

  68. This situation is a perfect example of NFL organizations manipulating the media and public perception about players. Wilson, since he broke in, has been one of the biggest team first guys in the NFL. He has a stellar reputation off the field, is charitable with his time and money and plays at a MVP caliber level nearly every year. Suddenly, he wants an input on ways to fix the offense and not get hit so much. VILLAIN VILLAIN VILLAIN !!! He wants a trade… He wants a raise… He’s a cancer !!! It’s pretty comical to see the same story play out over and over again.

  69. Something else is going on, it will eventually come out. Carroll has coached 15 years in the NFL, he has three sub 500 seasons. Wilson has had a great career, yet they can’t along? A trade is virtually impossible as Seattle would be on the hook for 39 million in dead money, JS, (GM) is a pretty good GM , no way he would destroy his budget at this point. I wonder if Seattle management asked Wilson to restructure his contract to free up cap space, pissing Rw off? Wilson’s agent is a baseball guy, gotta wonder how much input his music star wife has? After the “let Russ cook” stuff ended, and he started throwing a ton of pics a meeting took place- Reports say rw stormed out of the meeting. The quarter of the season he played….at time bad. I remember one play he tossed the ball in ground, it had a bad feel to it. His demeanour was bad, I remember that play and thinking something is very wrong. Seattle fans and sports talk geeks love to talk about going 12 and 4. Yet, they had a home game, against the Rams and got physically beaten. I just think there is more to the story that will eventually come out. At this point Rw is kind of a victim of his salary, he’s virtually un – tradeable. It would take some crazy scenario to make it happen. Pretty crazy indeed.

  70. Carroll’s sons are very mediocre coaches. The OL is awful and if Brennan were a real coach he would have been fired long ago.

  71. The man has a family now and things are really crazy in Seattle these days. I don’t blame him I would do whatever I could also to get my family out of there.

  72. Like the old adage goes ‘Dont believe everything you read!!!! ‘ My gosh I will be happy for free agency to start!!! Go Hawks 🏈

  73. Pete Carroll’s record without Russ is about 15 games below .500, and he has had more than 3 subpar seasons in his career. People can tout Pete Carroll’s record with the Seahawks all they want to, but Russ was the primary catalyst for all of it. No Russ, no Super Bowls. The sheep believe that it was the LoB and Beast Mode, but I love to remind them that the Seahawks went 7-9 in back-to-back seasons before Russ arrived, and Pete Carroll’s seat was getting warm.

    If not for Russ, Pete Carroll would have lost too many games for Paul Allen’s taste and gotten fired by 2013 or 2014 at the latest. The LoBs record without Russ is an average of 7-9. Russ’s average without the LoB? about 10.5 and 5.5. You all need to remember that. As for the lack of recent playoff success, no QB wins without the right pieces around him and a coach who knows what he is doing. Pete doesn’t, and he drafted poorly for years. Russ’s salary was not prohibitive to free agents coming in, and it obviously wasn’t prohibitive to Pete using good judgment on draft day.
    This week, the Seahawks had arguably their best draft day since 2012, and I wonder why that is. Could it be that Pete FOR ONCE let his scouts and John Schneider make some decisions? Any fan who thinks Russ was a problem is being taken for a ride.

    That man kept a would-be 4-12 team relevant and competitive every year, NEVER complained about his O-Line until 2019, and took a lot of punishment with a smile. HHe never threw Pete under the bus for his lousy play-calling or incessant mismanagement of the clock during 4th quarters. He also spent the last 7 years eating a bowl of cow manure for that INT in SB49, which wasn’t even his fault! Seattle has a bunch of ungrateful people calling themselves “fans.”

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