Marshall Goldberg’s daughter says J.J. Watt can wear No. 99

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J.J. Watt can’t wear No. 99 in Arizona. Unless he can.

Officially retired in honor of running back/fullback Marshall Goldberg by the Cardinals, one member of Goldberg’s family has paved the way for a dispensation. His daughter, Ellen Goldberg Tullos, told TMZ.com that the family wouldn’t object to the number being unretired for Watt’s use.

He has my blessings,” Tullos told TMZ.com, “and I’m sure my father would be more than delighted for him to carry it on. . . . I know dad was really honored when they retired his number but also he’s always respected other players. And if J.J. Watt had the number 99 with him for a long time and it meant something to him, I think he’d be delighted to let him use the number and unretire or whatever the proper word would be.”

The proper word is “retired,” because that’s what the number is. When teams retire numbers, they surely are aware of the possibility that, at some point in the future, there could be someone who wants to wear it and/or someone to whom they’d like to issue it. To allow that, don’t retire numbers.

Goldberg’s number is retired. That should be the end of it. Just like it should have been the end of it nine years ago, when Peyton Manning wanted to wear No. 18 in Denver but it had been retired.

All-time great players can be honored in ways other than permanently setting their number aside. If, however, the number is going to be permanently set aside then (wait for it) the number should be permanently set aside.

63 responses to “Marshall Goldberg’s daughter says J.J. Watt can wear No. 99

  1. I think a retired number should not be given out to rookies ever or free agents that are not former DPOYs and Hall of fame candidates. Watt is not a rookie, he won DPOY three times, he is an exception. But getting some kinda approval from the retired player and/or family is a good idea.

  2. When teams retire numbers, they surely are aware of the possibility that, at some point in the future, there could be someone who wants to wear it and/or someone to whom they’d like to issue it. To allow that, don’t retire numbers.
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    Or teams can do exactly what their doing, retire numbers as they see fit to their organization and if the issue arises in the future they can unretire it if they end up with a high caliber player they want to let wear the number.

  3. Leave #99 retired.
    Gotta have a link to the glory days even if it’s been over 80 years since the Cardinals last won a title.

  4. Watt should have thought of that before he signed for 23 mil. guaranteed.

  5. JJ should respect the cards past and choose a different number imo…”new year, new me”

  6. I agree 100% with Mike Florio on this one and we rarely agree on anything. Teams shouldn’t retire numbers if they are going to allow players to continue using them.

  7. Name a player more overrated than JJ Watt in the last 20 years. The guy had 3-4 good seasons, going back at least 5 seasons and were still taking like this guy hung the moon. If his career ended today it’s not like he’d go to the HOF. Maybe the hall of hype.

  8. Too many numbers are retired just like too many people are in the hall of fame. The only numbers that should be retired are Jackie Robinson’s in baseball and Michael Jordan’s in the NBA. If you asked the majority of Cardinals fans, especially Arizona residents where Goldberg didnt even play, they would have no idea who he is.

  9. I think I agree with most here on this issue, including Florio. Kudos to the daughter for being gracious, but the number is RETIRED and should stay that way. If not, then what is the point of retiring numbers in the first place?

  10. I agree. Once a number is retired it should never ever be worn again which is why retiring numbers is just ridiculous – Signed The New York Yankees

  11. Should have held out for cash. Most players will pay $30-$50k to another player to get their number. A retired number could have fetched $200k.

  12. That’s why the WFT only has 2 officially retired numbers in 33, and 49. The rest are “out of circulation just for instances like these.

  13. I don’t like this at all. Unless he specifically told his daughter or someone else that he didn’t mind his number being unretired, it is completely improper for his daughter to say this. And judging by her answer, he never said any such thing and she is just guessing.

  14. Retiring numbers is stupid. You build your rep as a player by your play. The number on your jersey is irrelevant. Univ. of Alabama does not retire #s because if they did there wouldn’t be enough left to field a team, because so many great players have gone through that program. It’s just a number.

  15. So what happens in 2067 when some hotshot QB gets signed by New England and he won all kinds of awards wearing #12?

  16. Springfield is truth. Been saying it for years. Watt does not control games at all. He doesn’t even show up in most big games when he isn’t on IR. He gets garbage time sacks all the time. Over hyped is a severe understatement. Terrible in 8 playoff games. And less than a sack a game vs division rivals. Remember for the longest that the AFC south was dubbed horrible. Watt is 31st career sacks. There are 18 above him not in the hall of good. He is not dominant. Never has been. Never put fear in anybody. If it wasn’t for Bortles and Luck he would only have 80 sacks which is good for a mid 70s ranking.

  17. The Raiders, Falcons, and Cowboys do not “officially” retire numbers. They are just basically unavailable. Mind you, they can object to a player using… saaay Aikman’s number, but they probably given it to Tom Brady, if he came there and wanted it for some reason.

  18. That’s a true Pittsburgh rooted family for you!

    Goldberg was raised near Pittsburgh in Elkins, WV and won two national championships at Pitt before his pro career.

    Sacrificing a number? Heck, his pro career was interrupted when he served two years in the Pacific during WW2…as a lieutenant.

    I’m waiting for teams to start using letters or symbols like Curly Howard did as “?” in the the greatest Three Stooges episode of them all! Larry was “1/2” and Moe, the hard guy, was “H2O2.”

  19. Numbers can be unretired for future Hall of Famers. I don’t see an issue with that.

  20. When you have 53+ players and only 99 numbers, no number should ever be retired. Especially when there are position restrictions with numbers.

    A great player can always be put into a ring of honor or team HOF.

  21. I don’t see anything wrong with temporarily unretiring a retired number as long as either the player whose number was retired or his heirs approve, but it should be their call, not the team’s. That said, I do hope JJ Watt thanks them and then opts to use a different number while playing for the Cardinals.

  22. The girl and her family should receive no less than 40 million dollars. The money should be court ordered to be paid within 90 days. Paid in full by Britt Reid and his father.

    Andy Reid included because Britt Reid will be in prison. You can’t get blood from a stone.

  23. If you’re going to retire a number, then keep it retired. Otherwise it’s just a hollow gesture. I have no problem with a new guy coming in and making a deal with someone currently wearing the number, but to unretire someone’s number like this is self serving and wreaks of entitlement. JJ Watt can make his own name in Arizona wearing another number, his number. He had 99 in Houston and he walked away from it. Don’t defile someone else’s legacy.

  24. footballbaby says:
    March 2, 2021 at 10:26 am
    Retiring numbers is stupid. You build your rep as a player by your play. The number on your jersey is irrelevant. Univ. of Alabama does not retire #s
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    This is PRO football talk son. Take a seat. Alabama doesn’t have a salary cap, so we are well aware they purchase better players than most college teams.

  25. Or he could worry more about winning than what number is on his jersey. Who cares what number he is? He shouldn’t either.

  26. There are only so many numbers that fit well on a jersey. At some point in the future, teams are not going to have enough to use to fill out a roster. Might be a good time to begin making exceptions?

  27. I never heard of Mr. Goldberg until this came up, but reading about him on several websites he certainly seems worthy of the honor of a retired number (if not consideration for the Pro Football HOF). A byproduct of the family allowing Watt to wear Mr. Goldberg’s number is that a lot of us will now know who he was, and appreciate his football career and his military service.

  28. I say no way it should be unretired, once it is retired it is off the table forever.

  29. The Packers retire very few numbers and I like it that way. I don’t really have any concerns involved in what numbers NFL players wear.

    My thoughts on Britt Reid above as well.✌

  30. Do not retire a number unless that player is at least in the Pro Football Hall of Fame on first ballot, NOT the team’s hall of fame. Do not retire a number so hastily. First example, the Bears did not retire Mike Singletary’s number. It should be reserved for players in the caliber like Dick Butkus and Walter Payton, generational players.

  31. “This is the say we have always done things” is generally speaking one of the worst reasons to keep doing things. It’s just a number on a Jersey, and if the family is honored, it’s cool yo

  32. I don’t think numbers should ever be retired permanently. Do it the way the Cowboys do it. If a number holds significance, then just reserve the use of that number for certain situations. Maybe there’s a 1st round rookie you want to motivate by gifting them a significant number, or maybe you transition standout players to those significant numbers (making them “earn” the number), etc.

    There are only 99 numbers to choose from without adding a 3rd digit. Each team has 53 players during the season, plus a handful of practice squad players and as many as 90 players during parts of the offseason. You can’t retire very many numbers without running into logistical problems and with any luck we’ll be watching NFL football for generations into the future.

  33. All this debate over a number in a Jersey. Are there not more important things people to concern yourself woth. Amazing to me how many people feel strongly one way or another.

  34. Players now days don’t care about the old timers. They care about money and themselves. They should have enough respect for the person who wore the number before them and not take the number even if they were offered it.

  35. Never understood the point, or benefit, of retiring numbers. There are only a limited number range for each position, and since 1970 all jerseys have names on them anyway.

  36. The proper word is “retired,” because that’s what the number is. When teams retire numbers, they surely are aware of the possibility that, at some point in the future, there could be someone who wants to wear it and/or someone to whom they’d like to issue it. To allow that, don’t retire numbers.—— Florio, Shut the front door! When you talk like this you sound like you me sad you were never good at sports growing up as a kid

  37. “The proper word is “retired,” because that’s what the number is. When teams retire numbers, they surely are aware of the possibility that, at some point in the future, there could be someone who wants to wear it and/or someone to whom they’d like to issue it. To allow that, don’t retire numbers”.—— Florio, Shut the front door! When you talk like this you sound like you are sad you were never good at sports growing up as a kid

  38. Do not retire a number unless that player is at least in the Pro Football Hall of Fame on first ballot, NOT the team’s hall of fame.

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    The fact is that the number is retired. Too bad, JJ. The only REAL No. 99 is Wayne Gretzky, the Great One.

  39. Best thing is this cuts both ways. When 18 is retired it will some day come up where a young guy wants it, and manning had better let them.

  40. last 20 years. The guy had 3-4 good seasons, going back at least 5 seasons and were still taking like this guy hung the moon. If his career ended today it’s not like he’d go to the HOF. Maybe the hall of hype.

    You have a right to you’re opinion and I respect that, even if I disagree. But please don’t tell me you’re one of the “Richard Seymour is a hall of famer “ people:

  41. It’s actually a good thing to allow this, because it brings up the old player’s memory. If the number stayed retired and it wasn’t even up for discussion, these players would just be forgotten.

  42. I’m curious how many reading knew who Marshall Goldberg was before today. Seriously. I’m 64, have followed the NFL since before Kindergarten, and consider myself a pretty knowledgeable fan and I’ve never heard of him until today. I had to look him up; he’s not in the NFL Hall of Fame. I guess this sort of insignificance happens for a team with two NFL titles in 100 years and none since before I was born (and again, I’m 64).

  43. I think the world has far too serious problems to be so hardcore about a game – especially if the original retiree or his family is cool with it. In this case they are. They key is don’t retire it under watt’s name when he retires or leaves.

    And the word is “unretired”. She clearly was referring to the name of a process that allows Watt to use it.

  44. Why not retire a guy’s number for the same number of years that he was active? If he is a Hall of Famer, add five more years to the retirement. Then bring him back for the tear jerking midfield ceremony as he unretires the number and gives the jersey to the new hot rookie.

  45. All this hand wringing. Did JJ even ASK for the number? I doubt it – he doesn’t seem that kind of guy.

  46. “This is how it always has been and thus must always remain” is like the worst justification for anything in life

  47. according to other sites, JJ Watt was gifted the number by Goldberg’s daughter and in return and as thanks offered a charitable donation in Goldberg’s name to her choice of charity. I think that’s classy not rude. It does not sound like he asked for it; it was offered to him.

  48. It is kind of nice to escape into the football world where the biggest problems are which number a guy can wear.

  49. I think it’s fine if the team and the retired player/or family are OK with it. In this case, I think it works out great. People have the opportunity to discover or re-discover a retired and unheralded player in Marshall Goldberg, which I would assume is also a thrill for the family, and Watt, if he chooses, can have his old number.

    JJ Watt is hardly overrated. Some unfortunate injuries have shortened seasons in his prime. Seems like most people on here aren’t satisfied unless every edge rusher produces like Lawrence Taylor. Most don’t seem to realize that the ability of an edge rusher to disrupt a play and/or draw double and triple teams that give others opportunities is far more valuable and important than one sack every game.

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