Patriots to sign Hunter Henry

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For the second day in a row, the Patriots have agreed to terms with a free agent tight end.

This time it’s veteran tight end Hunter Henry who is signing a three-year contract with New England, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

Yesterday the Patriots agreed to sign former Titans tight end Jonnu Smith. That means they have the top two tight ends on our list of the NFL’s Top 100 free agents.

When healthy, Henry has been one of the top tight ends in the NFL, although he has struggled to stay healthy. Last year Henry played 14 games and had 60 catches for 613 yards and four touchdowns.

180 responses to “Patriots to sign Hunter Henry

  1. Lol! BB!

    He loves the guy. Good luck dealing with this offense and defense (and special teams, the best in football).

    Two 2 sets, a top ol and run game. Enjoy! AFC on notice.

    Hmmm..Is it Stidham and weapons in camp or a mystery qb BB is selling them on?

    Hmmm.

    Lol!!

  2. Holy Schnikes. This is amazing. I may go down and ask Kraft for some money myself. I guess 7-9 shook ’em up a little. Good. It should.

  3. belicheck is a clearly making a tough nose run based offence that will see a ton of dual tight end sets…with a running qb in place…based on their defence if i’m the bills i’m gonna hold off on celebrating back to back afc east titles…

    – giants fan

  4. Wow. Trying to resurrect the days of the………deadliest………TE duo of all time, Grnk and Hernandez.

  5. This team won’t be out of the title conversation for very long. In fact, they will likely challenge for the AFC East title this coming season.

  6. Well Kyle Rudolph won’t be playing in NE. It’s starting to look like renegotiating his contract may have been the way to go.

  7. Gotta admit, I’m pretty stunned. I thought yesterday was a lot of splash but not too much substance – but having both Henry & Jonnu is pretty formidable.

    Pats are back in the mix. We’ll see if the chemistry in there, and if Cam can rise to the occasion (or if BB has a QB move up his sleeve).

    Bring it on. The AFC East will be fun.

  8. Smith with be listed as starting TE while Henry will start under “Flex” position on the Patriots internal fantasy football team.

  9. Cap will go up substantially with new TV deals. These contracts will be bargains in a couple years.

  10. Brady leaving and immediately winning a title must have really frosted The Hoodie. He’s on a war path.

  11. Patriots apparently are not willing to experience consecutive losing seasons. They are definitely doing all they can to improve the team. Having huge Cap Space to work with helps.

  12. Belichick is bringing in talent because he hasn’t drafted much talent lately. He also realizes that no matter how “genius’ he may be, he needs some actual talent to coach.

  13. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:14 am
    Lol! BB!

    He loves the guy. Good luck dealing with this offense and defense (and special teams, the best in football).

    Two 2 sets, a top ol and run game. Enjoy! AFC on notice.

    Hmmm..Is it Stidham and weapons in camp or a mystery qb BB is selling them on?

    Hmmm.

    Lol!!

    Keep retracting from Stidham. You’re always wrong. I love it. You’re batting 143

  14. Trying to copy the Ravens Again! BB still dreams of his early days in the land of pleasant living.

  15. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:14 am
    Lol! BB!

    He loves the guy. Good luck dealing with this offense and defense (and special teams, the best in football).

    Two 2 sets, a top ol and run game. Enjoy! AFC on notice.

    Hmmm..Is it Stidham and weapons in camp or a mystery qb BB is selling them on?

    Hmmm.

    Lol!!

    —–

    Yeah….these guys want to come to NE to play with Jarrett Stidham. You cracked the code

  16. LOL – Like Reiss said, BB is locking up playmakers for ‘modest’ deals before the salary cap jumps up next year.

  17. Thank you Bill! Tight end has been a huge weakness since Gronk left Henry and Smith will be forces to be reckoned with for the offense.

  18. Wow. Trying to resurrect the days of the………deadliest………TE duo of all time, Grnk and Hernandez.
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    Well at least one of those tight ends was deadly.

  19. BB is so upset with last season that he’s making the mistake of many GMs — signing too many high $$$ FAs. They will not compete against the Bills.

  20. Belichick decided to let Brady leave.

    THEN decides to fill the toybox?

    Maybe the man has lost it.

  21. Watching my Dolphins pick Tua with Herbert on the board just got a lot worse with the Pats putting it back together with real coaching staff. I don’t see any way we compete with the Bills and Pats in 2021. If we take a wide out at 3 it will guarantee we are mediocre for a long time to come. We need to trade down for a first next year and a pick the draft this year. When the draft is over if Watson is still in Houston get on the phone and trade our two firsts next year and a first in 2023 for Watson. Only way we compete in this division.

  22. Just like the offseason after they lost the AFC title game to Colts – Moss, Welker and Donte Stallworth.

    His first offseason w/NE he also went scorched earth

  23. There will have to be some corresponding cuts coming , I think they have spent more than the 63 mill or so they had to spend, and they still will need to sign their draft class about 7 mil give or take- hopefullt they are aggressive in the draft and go after either lance or fields, Cam would seem to be the perfect mentor for either of those guys- and if all pans out they should be starting by mid season

  24. This is awesome…I love it! BB has to have a QB plan up his sleeve, unless Cam Newton has done a complete 180. We will see. In any case, he is doing what the fans have been asking for, all without one presser or soundbite.

  25. BB knows that his QBs now can’t carry the team on their backs the way Brady did with the bargain-bin cast that he gave Brady. So now it’s BB who’s frantic to prove he can still rule the East, at the least. It will be more fun to watch the Pats this season.

  26. Belichick understands the impact of a low cap this year (greater depth of free agents) and increase in caps going forward as the new TV deal (which Kraft has been negotiating) kicks in. So, while most are scratching their heads, to me it’s just Belichick understanding the economics of the labor market (as GM) and the players he needs to win (as HC). After all, he has an econ degree from Wesleyan.

  27. gronkhof says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:25 am
    LOL – Like Reiss said, BB is locking up playmakers for ‘modest’ deals before the salary cap jumps up next year.

    5 2 Rate This

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    Yep.

    as I stated, flattened cap, teams in cap hells, many teams even with space, are cash poor.

    BB brilliance in action. Lock em down, draft well again and the rebuild
    complete!

    Lol!

    Even some Pats fans are complete morons still sucking their thumbs in Brady underoos. Priceless!

  28. Shaliene Rodgers says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:30 am
    Belichick decided to let Brady leave.

    THEN decides to fill the toybox?

    Maybe the man has lost it.

    Kind of hard to fill the toybox with new stuff when it was filled with a bunch of broken toys you used to like but can’t get rid of.

  29. After the Patriots v San Diego game last year, Belichick pursued Henry off the field like a puppy dog. That was highly unusual and portentous. Bill was on to 2021 way early.

  30. Shaliene Rodgers says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:30 am
    Belichick decided to let Brady leave.

    THEN decides to fill the toybox?

    Maybe the man has lost it.

    You do realize he had NO cap money last year?

  31. Is there a human being alive better at assessing NFL talent and utilizing it effectively? I don’t think so.

  32. But I was told here on these boards that no free agents would ever want to sign to play in New England now that Brady is gone?

  33. After another 7-9 season and losing the division to Buffalo Belichick won’t have anymore excuses.

  34. They are needing to add a lot of players in free agency so they can trade all their draft picks for a #1 QB…

  35. Boy, haters are really scratching and clawing now. Love this. It’s a good point that you can’t buy a team, but if anyone can put it together, it’s Bill Belichick. I’m glad he was able to put his ego aside, admit the roster needed a big influx of talent, created the cap space and went out and got it done. As far as Newton goes, I’m convinced the Pats opening day starter is not on the roster yet.

  36. This is all taking place because of how far under the cap they are.

    BB is not the best drafter at defensive backs and receivers.

    But he is great at evaluating pro talent, so I’m more comfortable with free agent pick ups than his drafting.

    Big move this year, QB is the only question mark IMO.

  37. Deadliest combo since Gronk and Hernandez? Do you mean that in the literal sense or football sense. Would have been better off using the coin on Thuney and the line. Or a real QB. BB needs a real GM.

  38. They are definitely winning the Super Bowl now, right Patriots fans? It’s funny how every player stinks until the Patriots sign them then they tout them as a guaranteed Hall-of-Famer and Super Bowl winner. Henry was 12th in receptions for TEs last year. He was behind Gronk, some guy named Dalton Schultz (DAL) and George Kittle (who only played eight games). But yeah, keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

  39. The Patriots are going to run the ball down the throats of the new small and fast defenses designed to stop the pass and use play action passing. Aglohar will keep them honest over the top.

    Bill is one cunning coach. Always the contrarian.

  40. The Chargers confuse me. It’s great they got a strong center and there may be more good moves to come. But changing to many coaches and skill players around their new QB, after a season where he looked phenomenal, seems like a risky strategy.

    These moves by the Pats look great, though. The players they’re signing seem like a great complement to Newton, taking some pressure off him and also complementing his style of play.

    It’s still strange to me how mediocre Newton was last year. If he’s healthy, I can see them competing with the Bills for the division.

  41. Belichick about to put a pretty good offensive team together. Also, if people notice, it’s being tailored to Newton’s skill set with the TEs as the focal point. They’re going to be an issue.

  42. Patrick Kiernan says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:50 am
    Deadliest combo since Gronk and Hernandez? Do you mean that in the literal sense or football sense. Would have been better off using the coin on Thuney and the line. Or a real QB. BB needs a real GM.

    _____

    Really?

  43. these signings make a lot of sense seeing their QB can’t throw the ball more than 10 yards.

  44. You do realize he had NO cap money last year?
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    Teams do whatever they want to do with their cap dollar.

    This year is the ultimate reflection of that.

  45. Don’t kid yourself. Owners of other teams are freaking out, and asking their operations guys: What are the Patriots doing?

    They are not dismissing Belichick. They are finally catching on and they fear he’s building another dominating team for the long term.

  46. “Is there a human being alive better at assessing NFL talent and utilizing it effectively? I don’t think so.”

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    Can I say “yes”?

    You got the latter part right, 100%. No one coaches up players better than BB.

    But he’s hit & miss on talent. I’ve never seen him as a very good GM. Brady taking pay cuts and attracting FA’s to take less money to play with him really helped him for years.

    Now, the Pats are paying top dollar. It really remains to be seen if this will all work. We’ve seen countless teams have this kind of splashy first week of FA over the years; very few have ended up being true contenders in the regular season.

  47. Even some Pats fans are complete morons still sucking their thumbs in Brady underoos. Priceless!
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    Some?

    I think you underestimate your audience..

  48. Goodell is considering a league order taking away draft picks from the Patriots and and any QB trades to New England.

  49. The Chargers confuse me. It’s great they got a strong center and there may be more good moves to come. But changing to many coaches and skill players around their new QB, after a season where he looked phenomenal, seems like a risky strategy.
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    Terrible owner = terrible organization

    Whats to be surprised about?

  50. tigerlilac says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:44 am
    Is there a human being alive better at assessing NFL talent and utilizing it effectively? I don’t think so.

    4 3 Rate This

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    The guy only built 2 dynasties in front of owners and commissioners trying to cheat him because of how brilliant he is, so no. No one is better.

  51. I’ll believe all of this will come together once Belichick can land a decent QB. I’ll even take Minshew.

    If I see Cam Newton starting, or if that’s the grand plan, this year will be more like last year.

  52. tigerlilac says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:44 am
    Is there a human being alive better at assessing NFL talent and utilizing it effectively? I don’t think so.

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    I’d say his ability to assess tale in free-agency is top notch. It’s god in the later rounds of the draft. But his ability to asses talent in the early rounds of the draft leave much to be desired. N’keal Harry and Isaiah Wynn are exhibits A and B.

  53. Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry are like the TJ Maxx version of Gronk and Aaron Hernandez.

  54. itsamadmadmadmadworld says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:50 am
    They are definitely winning the Super Bowl now, right Patriots fans? It’s funny how every player stinks until the Patriots sign them then they tout them as a guaranteed Hall-of-Famer and Super Bowl winner. Henry was 12th in receptions for TEs last year. He was behind Gronk, some guy named Dalton Schultz (DAL) and George Kittle (who only played eight games). But yeah, keep drinking that Kool-Aid

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    What an idiot!!
    You can feel the bitterness and jealousy when you read the comment.
    But how will BOTH TE be together, it creates a mismatch.

    You see these same LAME comments every off-season when the Patriots sign players. “Patriots fans said this, Patriots fans said that” blah blah blah. …

    It’s amazing how the crybabies come running to every Patriots related article and post lame stuff like this after they all proclaimed them dead after one “down” 7-9 season.

    But yet here they are again.

  55. BB was like Scrooge McDuck swimming in his cash….now he’s just making it rain!

    Love it. Pats will run a 2 TE set. They are much more physical on Offense when Defenses are becoming more and more smaller/faster. Pats should be able to wear them down. Also on D, they shored up with run D and added a very talented LB to help beef up the middle. This should allow Uche and Wino blitz/rush with exotic looks. I expect BB to deal Gilmore and draft a CB early.

  56. bajer says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:35 am
    There will have to be some corresponding cuts coming , I think they have spent more than the 63 mill or so they had to spend, and they still will need to sign their draft class about 7 mil give or take- hopefullt they are aggressive in the draft and go after either lance or fields, Cam would seem to be the perfect mentor for either of those guys- and if all pans out they should be starting by mid season
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    this will hurt for you to hear but they have spent well over 63 million yes…but guess what that’s is not all on the books for this season it’s spread out…oh and they’re actually 47 million under as of today on oveerthecap…that may or may not include henry’s money..

  57. Belichick loves the 2 tight end set, so either he knows something about Cam Newton that we don’t, or there is some more quarterback news coming via the draft or free agency.

  58. The Patriots are building not only a Newton friendly offense but one that would make it easier for a rookie QB.

  59. The Patriots look like the Bob Quinn Lions all of a sudden. Like that whole organization is lost without TB12.

  60. I expect BB to deal Gilmore
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    Been hearing this for years because he’s the only good player in New England. Obviously nobody wants him for a 1st rounder or even a mid rounder. He’s yours to over pay for awhile.

  61. Pats are going to try and be the Ravens it feels like. I guess if you have an obese running game, Cam isn’t so bad back there

  62. Thank God somebody is using the Celtic’s $28 million player exception. Danny Ainge sure ain’t touching it.

  63. And, the Patriots will still miss the playoffs in 2021. That’s the funniest part.

  64. HH- 12+
    Judon- 14
    agohlor- 13
    Jonnu- 12+
    Mills-6
    bourne-7+
    godchaux-8
    plus wise, davis anderson and newton
    so that is 72 mill + in salaries added, no way they have 47 in cap space still

  65. bfindeisen says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:45 am

    But I was told here on these boards that no free agents would ever want to sign to play in New England now that Brady is gone?

    ______________________________________________

    Yeah, to get paid, considering the Patriots had like the second most cap space. However, do you think those players are going there expecting to win a super bowl ring? Of course not. That time is long gone. Stop living in the moment.

  66. Yeah, nobody wants the 2019 DPOY. He was still good last year, just not great. They’ll get a 2nd for him.

  67. Last season Belichick stated that it was a year to make a salary cap reset. Folks scoffed, myself included, thinking it was a weak excuse for a lack of on field talent. Well flash forward one year and the Pats are adding players left, right and center. Now do they have a top notch QB to match the talent? I say no. But BB is above the curve in planning ahead and something tells me that QB shoe has yet to drop. Be it trade or draft pick.

  68. Lots of salty from those wishing their team signed these guys. Thuney was 20 mil per, we upgraded 3.5 positions for those dollars. A fine trade off.

    Eat it posers.

  69. To billsrfuture, respectfully, let me point out just a few veteran players (not college) that Bill brought in and developed: Welker, Vrabel, Ninkovich, Antwoine Smith, Andruzzi, Patten, Rodney Harrison, Gilmore, Izzo, Pfifer, Adam Butler, Van Noy and Lawrence Guy.

    With the exception of Gilmore (who’s play improved dramatically), the rest of the these guys were either considered marginal players or past their prime. I could add a dozen guys that were considered past their prime that Bill got great contributions.

  70. itsamadmadmadmadworld says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:50 am
    They are definitely winning the Super Bowl now, right Patriots fans? It’s funny how every player stinks until the Patriots sign them then they tout them as a guaranteed Hall-of-Famer and Super Bowl winner. Henry was 12th in receptions for TEs last year. He was behind Gronk, some guy named Dalton Schultz (DAL) and George Kittle (who only played eight games). But yeah, keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

    ____

    You must be hearing things in your head. I dont see any comments about the HOF or SB.

  71. While this is a nice pickup, I live in New England and watched nearly every Patriots game. The issue I see is Newton. Yes he didn’t have receivers but even when guys were open he was short or high on many throws. He just didn’t look confident. He can still run but I’m not sold that a older running QB is the answer. Look at Lamar. Every year some team shuts his running down and then his label of passing ability is the teams downfall.

  72. As long as Cam one hop Newton is QBing, they can sign all the people they want, the Pats are looking at 6-10 or 7-9.

  73. This was already explained to you once by joshgordonsbong……the cap hit is spread out over several years.

    bajer says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:38 am
    HH- 12+
    Judon- 14
    agohlor- 13
    Jonnu- 12+
    Mills-6
    bourne-7+
    godchaux-8
    plus wise, davis anderson and newton
    so that is 72 mill + in salaries added, no way they have 47 in cap space still

    joshgordonsbong says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:11 am

    this will hurt for you to hear but they have spent well over 63 million yes…but guess what that’s is not all on the books for this season it’s spread out…oh and they’re actually 47 million under as of today on oveerthecap…that may or may not include henry’s money..

  74. Lot of high priced talent, yet no one to throw them the ball. A unique situation to willingly put yourself in, no?

  75. Henry gets hurt a lot… I’m much more excited for the Pats defensive additions so far.

  76. Serious question: Can someone explain how the Patriots have so much money this year?

  77. Alot of jealousy and envy in the comments I love it!this has been the plan all along last year was a bridge year the cap needed to be reset after years of kicking the can down the road.now there right back in the thick of things like they have been for the past 20 years.

  78. Remember the 2000 Redskins? Signing everybody only to finish 8 and 8

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    Norv Turner was the coach. Norv. Turner.

  79. This was already explained to you once by joshgordonsbong……the cap hit is spread out over several years.

    bajer says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:38 am
    HH- 12+
    Judon- 14
    agohlor- 13
    Jonnu- 12+
    Mills-6
    bourne-7+
    godchaux-8
    plus wise, davis anderson and newton
    so that is 72 mill + in salaries added, no way they have 47 in cap space still

    joshgordonsbong says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:11 am

    this will hurt for you to hear but they have spent well over 63 million yes…but guess what that’s is not all on the books for this season it’s spread out…oh and they’re actually 47 million under as of today on oveerthecap…that may or may not include henry’s money..

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    Youre both actually right and wrong……Over the Cap is showing 47 million, but it doesnt have all the guys signed on there yet. A few of them are there

    The ones on there are showing cap hits less than what it would be if you took the total value of the contract and divide by the length of the contract.

    Mills for example, his hit is 4 million this year.

    We will have to wait to see what the true cap space is.

  80. “Alot of jealousy and envy in the comments I love it!this has been the plan all along last year was a bridge year the cap needed to be reset after years of kicking the can down the road.now there right back in the thick of things like they have been for the past 20 years.”

    ________________________

    Are they “back in the thick of things?”

    We’ll have to wait until the season to see on that one. I still say they went from likely 3rd place finish in the AFCE to probable 3rd place finish.

  81. Brady’s dead money is gone. Thuney is no longer franchised. Gilmore’s cap hit is lower. There is probably $35-$40 million cap savings right there.

  82. Teams that went all out trying to win the Covid19 bowl, like the Cowboys, Saints, Rams… are not either jettisoning talent or kicking the financial can even further down the road by making rediculous contracts with multiple phanthom years. As soon as Belichick saw the full implications of last year’s events, he husbanded his resources for this year, picking up talent that he couldn’t afford cap wise or draft capital wise. That’s how they have so much cap space.

  83. Wow! The Patriots are back! If they make it to the playoffs Goodell will do “whatever it takes” to ensure a Bucs-Pats Super Bowl.

  84. cancerman2020 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 12:40 pm
    Remember the 2000 Redskins? Signing everybody only to finish 8 and 8

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    Norv Turner was the coach. Norv. Turner.

    * without Brady, Belichick IS Norv Turner

  85. tedmurph says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:48 am
    Boy, haters are really scratching and clawing now. Love this. It’s a good point that you can’t buy a team, but if anyone can put it together, it’s Bill Belichick. I’m glad he was able to put his ego aside, admit the roster needed a big influx of talent, created the cap space and went out and got it done. As far as Newton goes, I’m convinced the Pats opening day starter is not on the roster yet.

    46 18 Rate This

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    Ego? Rebuilding fiscally wise and patiently is always the plan. You are are a moron like backwoodsNHBoy. You embarrassment is showing.

    Your little buddy didn’t want to wait a year or two be a part of it to satisfy his selfish and outrageous ego after being spoiledf for 20 years.

    Go ask Manning, Brees or Rodgers how many rings they think they would have had if BB was in charge, dummy.

    BB would have won 6 with them. too.

  86. tonyxl says:
    March 16, 2021 at 1:01 pm
    Wow! The Patriots are back! If they make it to the playoffs Goodell will do “whatever it takes” to ensure a Bucs-Pats Super Bowl.

    1 5 Rate This

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    Umm, no he won’t but he will be cheating for the Bucs just like we saw last month in the first half.

  87. I’m no fan of the patriots/bb but what they are doing is good business, taking advantage of a suppressed market. The talent they are signing this week would be way more expensive next year when the the cap normalizes and likely explodes.

  88. jrterrier5 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 12:27 pm
    Serious question: Can someone explain how the Patriots have so much money this year?

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    Moneygate!

  89. supercharger says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:20 am
    I expect BB to deal Gilmore
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    Been hearing this for years because he’s the only good player in New England. Obviously nobody wants him for a 1st rounder or even a mid rounder. He’s yours to over pay for awhile
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    Gilmore is actually quite underpaid compared to other CB’s. Gilmore will either play in NE, or he’ll be traded. NE might not get a 1, but they could get a 2 or a 3 in next years draft.

  90. I been Patriot fan for 45 years. Bill knows what he is doing. Notice how he spent his cap space in a year when other teams sruggling to get under cap. This has allowed him to sign quality players who are young who normally would have resigned with the teams that drafted them. By signing all young players it gives Bill the option to spend his draft capital to move up the board for a franchise QB or go after Watson or Wilson if opportunity presents itself. All options are on the table.

    The chess master has a plan…………. AGAIN

  91. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 1:38 pm
    tedmurph says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:48 am
    Boy, haters are really scratching and clawing now. Love this. It’s a good point that you can’t buy a team, but if anyone can put it together, it’s Bill Belichick. I’m glad he was able to put his ego aside, admit the roster needed a big influx of talent, created the cap space and went out and got it done. As far as Newton goes, I’m convinced the Pats opening day starter is not on the roster yet.

    46 18 Rate This

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    Ego? Rebuilding fiscally wise and patiently is always the plan. You are are a moron like backwoodsNHBoy. You embarrassment is showing.

    Your little buddy didn’t want to wait a year or two be a part of it to satisfy his selfish and outrageous ego after being spoiledf for 20 years.

    Go ask Manning, Brees or Rodgers how many rings they think they would have had if BB was in charge, dummy.

    BB would have won 6 with them. too.

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    – There won’t even be a season this year….
    – Brady won’t even make the playoffs with the Bucs…
    – Jarret Stidham had the best pre-season in history….he will be the Pats starting QB….
    – The Pats will win the AFCE or I will leave this board….

    No posters on this board are as regularly wrong about pretty much everything as are you…

    And take a look at the last item in the list….and honor it.

  92. Chill_Mickelson says:
    March 16, 2021 at 12:26 pm
    Henry gets hurt a lot… I’m much more excited for the Pats defensive additions so far.

    4 2 Rate This

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    um, no he doesn’t. He missed one season. Like Brady.

  93. thomashobbesjr says:

    March 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    I’m no fan of the patriots/bb but what they are doing is good business, taking advantage of a suppressed market. The talent they are signing this week would be way more expensive next year when the the cap normalizes and likely explodes.

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    I’d agree if they were signing guys to bargain contracts but their not. Jonnu at signing was the highest average per yr for a tight end until Henry topped it today, Agholor got 26 million over 2 years making those 3 now the highest APY from a non skill position player in Patriots history. Oh and then they signed a middling 3rd wr from SF in Bourne to a 3 yr 22.5 million contract. So where exactly are they taking advantage of a suppressed market? Setting a new ceiling to a market doesnt show taking advantage.

  94. Rebuilding fiscally wise means thru the draft, with some FA signings sprinkled in. Belichick totally whiffed on that for years, and left himself with one of the least talented rosters in the NFL. This year BB put his ego aside, went out and spent a ton of money on other team’s players. Fantastic job so far. But, he shouldn’t have had to do it this way. Let’s hope he doesn’t whiff another draft.

    Gilmour ain’t playing for 7 mil this year. Gone. Probably for a 2nd rounder. They’ll tender JC Jackson, and then extend him.

  95. Sunday Swami says:
    March 16, 2021 at 2:34 pm
    thomashobbesjr says:

    March 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    I’m no fan of the patriots/bb but what they are doing is good business, taking advantage of a suppressed market. The talent they are signing this week would be way more expensive next year when the the cap normalizes and likely explodes.

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    I’d agree if they were signing guys to bargain contracts but their not. Jonnu at signing was the highest average per yr for a tight end until Henry topped it today, Agholor got 26 million over 2 years making those 3 now the highest APY from a non skill position player in Patriots history. Oh and then they signed a middling 3rd wr from SF in Bourne to a 3 yr 22.5 million contract. So where exactly are they taking advantage of a suppressed market? Setting a new ceiling to a market doesnt show taking advantage.

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    You are ao dumb. The contracts will be WORSE after this year when all cap hell teams get more cap space to up the bidding and the cap goes back up to its normal level in the CBA.. Get it?

    My goodness. Even when it’s explained to you, you refuse to comprehend due to jealousy and fear of what thr master does.

  96. The Pats are not really overpaying the guys they signed. Because of the lowered cap this year, teams are having to let a lot of good young players walk and struggling to get under the cap. All the Pats signings are in their mid 20’s. Probably still getting better. When the cap goes up after the pending tv deal, these guys will look like bargains.

  97. Patriots training staff was getting bored without Grionk… This should keep them busy again.

  98. Tom Brady won Super Bowls in New England with any assortment of TE’s and WR’s. When you have an elite QB, you don’t need great skilled guys. Hunter Henry is one of my favorite TE’s in the game. I don’t understand how a team would let a guy like him get away. The Pats have signed some decent players. Hopefully they sign the right QB. The Pats have won their share of Super Bowls. In my mind, they’re not under pressure to do anything. The other 31 teams have a lot of catching up to do.

  99. Cannot wait until all these signings realize that they are now part of the Patriot Way. Gonna be a lot of sore backs and hammy strains by game 4.

  100. LOL suddenly they are SB contenders because of 2 decent TE’s lol. You guys forget Cam is the quarterback, can’t wait to see him bounce passes to his new targets.

  101. Oh now they wanna load up. They would have won the SB with Brady and just 1 of these TEs.

  102. touchback6 says:

    March 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    Sunday Swami says:
    March 16, 2021 at 2:34 pm
    thomashobbesjr says:

    March 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    I’m no fan of the patriots/bb but what they are doing is good business, taking advantage of a suppressed market. The talent they are signing this week would be way more expensive next year when the the cap normalizes and likely explodes.

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    I’d agree if they were signing guys to bargain contracts but their not. Jonnu at signing was the highest average per yr for a tight end until Henry topped it today, Agholor got 26 million over 2 years making those 3 now the highest APY from a non skill position player in Patriots history. Oh and then they signed a middling 3rd wr from SF in Bourne to a 3 yr 22.5 million contract. So where exactly are they taking advantage of a suppressed market? Setting a new ceiling to a market doesnt show taking advantage.

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    You are ao dumb. The contracts will be WORSE after this year when all cap hell teams get more cap space to up the bidding and the cap goes back up to its normal level in the CBA.. Get it?

    My goodness. Even when it’s explained to you, you refuse to comprehend due to jealousy and fear of what thr master does.

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    Your the one obviously too dumb and waaay too much of a troll to be honest or to have a coherent thought, when you set the new top of the market your paying more than street value. Next year the cap will increase but the losses that would be incurred this year (when you said we wouldnt have football at all) is being spread out over multiple years so it’s not the jump you think, it’s going to be the same increase we had in years past so likely 10 to 15 million which means guess what? The patriots paying at the top of the market this year is no different than any other season when a team would set a new market price and people would say they are overpaid. The caps not jumping 30 plus million next year it will be an incremental increase. Now that it’s been explained to you please go ahead and use your other 8 or so screen names to disagree.

  103. Forced to disagree swami. I don’t even know what you mean by ‘street value’, but the Pats got the 2 top FA TEs on the market and had to pay them that way. Kittle makes 15/yr. Smith and Hunter make 12, 2 yrs later. I’m ok with that. DPrescott got more money than Mahomes. The next big time QB contract will be more than Prescott. It’s the way of the world.

  104. It will be interesting to watch. 3 TEs on the field, and either smash mouth or play action depending on what the D is doing.

  105. Do Patriots fans really think that Cam Newton is going to take this team to the playoffs? Seriously? I could only believe that happening if Newton was playing horrible last season on purpose. Unfortunately, he was trying his hardest to win. His arm has barely any accuracy left. Everyone says he played great prior to contracting COVID, but he also missed some wide open targets against below .500 teams.

  106. Do non Pats fans really think CNewton will be the opening day starter for this team? They paid him like a backup because that’s what he’s gonna be.

  107. likuidsmoke says:
    March 16, 2021 at 2:54 pm
    Oh now they wanna load up. They would have won the SB with Brady and just 1 of these TEs. You obviously have zero clue how the salary cap works.

  108. Kind of bizarre when someone goes out of her way to belittle fans of the same team she allegedly follows. I think you all know to whom I am referring. I started following the Pats because of Bledsoe and Parcells, was irritated when Belichick traded Drew instead if Tom, then realized my error. Some great memories over the past 2 decades, but now I’ve moved on, and so has Brady, if you hadn’t noticed. At least he went to the NFC. Imagine how Colt fans felt when Peyton took his bad neck to a competitor within the same conference. Touchback Girl should just remember the good times, eat a Snicker’s bar, and try not to be so hangry. All that hate’s gonna burn her up.

  109. tedmurph says:
    March 16, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    Do non Pats fans really think CNewton will be the opening day starter for this team? They paid him like a backup because that’s what he’s gonna be.

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    What? It was a one-year deal that’s worth up to $14 million, if he performs well. Why do that for a “backup quarterback” if he’s not going to be starting? After all, he threw more interceptions than touchdown passes last season. Case Keenum made $5.5 million last season, and Andy Dalton earned $3 million.

  110. If Newton performs well??? 8.5 of Newton’s possible 14 mil earnings are tied to Playoffs, Pro Bowl, All Pro and Super Bowl MVP. Don’t make me laugh. Newton is plan B. His contract screams it.

  111. You’re assuming who Belichick ends up drafting will be a solid starter by the time training camp and preseason is over. Good luck with that. Just look at Jarrett Stidham, Matt Gutierrez, and Ryan Mallett.

  112. 3 TEs on the field, and either smash mouth or play action depending on what the D is doing.

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    That is possible ONLY when QB is smart enough to see where his opportunities are.

    It is very very very very very hard, otherwise all other teams would have tried to build their offense with TE.

  113. I could only believe that happening if Newton was playing horrible last season on purpose.

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    jameshodges,

    It is about if there are WR who are good at getting behind defenders. Without such receivers, it is extremely hard to score enough (Belichick’s believers call it ‘vision’ or ‘system’)

    Cam Newton last season was like 2000 Bledsoe, except running.

    If these new signed receivers are good at getting behind defenders, then Cam will be OK, otherwise it will be a disaster for Patriots, NO MATTER WHO WILL BE STARTING QB.

  114. Not assuming a draft pick will start either. There are still plenty of vets that may become available that are better than Newton.

  115. cancerman2020 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 11:55 am
    itsamadmadmadmadworld says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:50 am
    They are definitely winning the Super Bowl now, right Patriots fans? It’s funny how every player stinks until the Patriots sign them then they tout them as a guaranteed Hall-of-Famer and Super Bowl winner. Henry was 12th in receptions for TEs last year. He was behind Gronk, some guy named Dalton Schultz (DAL) and George Kittle (who only played eight games). But yeah, keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

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    You must be hearing things in your head. I dont see any comments about the HOF or SB

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    Look at P6 posts about all those players before they were signed. You’ll see.

  116. So let me get this straight, when Brady was on the pats, Goodell wanted to cheat so they can lose, but now he wants Brady to win with the bucs? You’re a disaster. Love the way you speak to people over the internet too.

  117. Yeah, Cam Newton reminds me of Bledsoe too. OMG, where’s that eye roll emoji

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    LOL,

    I was talking about the productivity of an offense.

  118. – There won’t even be a season this year….
    – Brady won’t even make the playoffs with the Bucs…
    – Jarret Stidham had the best pre-season in history….he will be the Pats starting QB….
    – The Pats will win the AFCE or I will leave this board….

    No posters on this board are as regularly wrong about pretty much everything as are you…

    And take a look at the last item in the list….and honor it.

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    You forgot a few

    -Harry will be the best receiver in the afc.
    – BB never spends a lot on free agency. He builds through the draft. So teams that spend a lot are idiots.
    -Sony Michel will be the best in the game.
    – Tom Brady will never win another one without BB

    There’s a lot more. But I’m too tired to type now. I like the objective pats fans. That’s why Murph, nhpats, and Danny white own P6.

  119. The guy that said Brady invented looking off WRs.

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    Tedmurph,

    Do you know why Rodgers didn’t run on 3rd and goal in NFCCG?

    He didn’t see.

    QB position is too complicated for you to understand.

  120. I’ve forgotten more about FB than you’ll ever know WL. No guarantee Rodgers runs that in. 50/50. There was a player that could have made the play. Rodgers trusted his arm more than his legs. Being the playoff loser he is, he couldn’t pull it off.

  121. tedmurph,

    LOL, You really think that if a receiver is open, then QB will see? Don’t you know that Rodgers often ignore easy throws for first down? Why?

    I guess you don’t even know pres-nap reading, and not aware what it means if a QB can see his opportunities in advance.

  122. Rodgers does little pre snap reading other than blitz pickup. They’re not a matchup offense like the Pats. Rodgers will often pass up his 1rst open read, trying to make a splash play downfield. You’re just boring me now. Nothing worse than someone condescending as if they’re an expert, but has no clue

  123. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2021 at 1:38 pm
    tedmurph says:
    March 16, 2021 at 10:48 am
    Boy, haters are really scratching and clawing now. Love this. It’s a good point that you can’t buy a team, but if anyone can put it together, it’s Bill Belichick. I’m glad he was able to put his ego aside, admit the roster needed a big influx of talent, created the cap space and went out and got it done. As far as Newton goes, I’m convinced the Pats opening day starter is not on the roster yet.

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    Ego? Rebuilding fiscally wise and patiently is always the plan. You are are a moron like backwoodsNHBoy. You embarrassment is showing.

    Your little buddy didn’t want to wait a year or two be a part of it to satisfy his selfish and outrageous ego after being spoiledf for 20 years.

    Go ask Manning, Brees or Rodgers how many rings they think they would have had if BB was in charge, dummy.

    BB would have won 6 with them. too.

    Boys will be boys. Keep it classy and civil. Riiiiight.

  124. BB would have won 6 with them. too.

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    Stop being a big mouth.

    No other QB have the skills to produce top offense by throwing receivers IN FRONT OF defenders.

  125. tedmurph,

    Brady’s dink n dunk saved tons of money for Belichick to build defense.

    So kindly stop implying other QBs are idiots.

  126. tedmurph says:

    March 16, 2021 at 3:47 pm

    Forced to disagree swami. I don’t even know what you mean by ‘street value’, but the Pats got the 2 top FA TEs on the market and had to pay them that way. Kittle makes 15/yr. Smith and Hunter make 12, 2 yrs later. I’m ok with that. DPrescott got more money than Mahomes. The next big time QB contract will be more than Prescott. It’s the way of the world.

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    I dont disagree they got the top 2 te and had to pay for it but to think that they signed them to bargain deals because the cap went down is absurd. Neither Henry or Smith were going to top Kittle 15 million even if the cap hadn’t went down, the tight end and rb market arent the same as qb and you surely know that, Also it hasnt been 2 years since Kittle signed(that seemed long to me) it was 1st practice of last season in mid-August. Either way the point isnt their bad moves(they’ve made a lot of good moves including the tight ends) it’s that it shouldnt be hailed as a bargain.

  127. Hey, Ted,

    Did you claim every QB looks for WR? FYI, dink n dunk is all about what a QB can see before snap. Obvious, other QB are either idiots or they are much worse at it than you think:

    Jose Bosa on Tom Brady:
    He really is ridiculous. He really is ridiculous. Like, how quick he can get rid of the ball, what he sees. Impressive.”

    Saints’ Cam Jordan,
    it doesn’t matter what offensive line is in front of him. Tom Brady is Tom Brady for a reason because he’s able to release the ball as fast as he does. He’s able to dissect defenses as fast as he does. He lives for the next down.

  128. Dunk and dunk? Like 2007? Please bring something new to the table, besides the cheap slot receiver nonsense. Over and over. I never imply. I give opinions based on facts. What other people infer from them is their problem

  129. Nah.

    Anyone with eyes can tell that the system in 2007 was different from the one before 2007, thanks to Belichick the fool, who abandoned Brady’s “taking what is given” system, and adopted a system like Peyton’s, under which Brady had to hold the balls for big plays, like Brady did in first 3 months in Bucs.

  130. BTW, Ted, did you ever hear of “keep balls in front you”, the football 101 for defenders?

    I bet you never heard of it.

    Now you know, do you know what it means?

    Let me tell you :

    It means that it is easier to score by throwing to WR BEHIND defenders than by throwing to WR IN FRONT OF defenders.

    Like I said, QB position is way too complicated for people like you.

  131. Swami, of course they’re bargains. Kittle got his 15 mil 2 yrs ago. Prices go up every year. The 2 Pats guys got 12mil. Because the cap went down, many teams had to scrambke to get under the cap. A lot if the Pats signees could have been resigned in normal years. Or, at least a bidding war. Not this year

  132. As a Bills fan I was praying for Jonnu or Henry. Jonnu a bit more due to age & injury history. So of course New England signs both. So hard being a Bills fan.

  133. There seems to be mass confusion about NE’s spending here. This isn’t some kind of crazy spree – all it means is now NE is getting close to spending what all of the other teams had already committed to spend for the upcoming year.

    As of this AM they are apparently still 20 mil under the cap, which leaves room to sign their draft picks and maybe pick up a few more surprise cuts from other teams.

    And that doesn’t even consider that there may be some trades and other moves with guys like Gilmore which create more cap space.

  134. BB would have won 6 with them. too. (Manning, Brees, Rodgers)
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    If by 6, you really meant 8-12..

  135. Anyone with eyes can tell that the system in 2007 was different from the one before 2007, thanks to Belichick the fool, who abandoned Brady’s “taking what is given” system, and adopted a system like Peyton’s, under which Brady had to hold the balls for big plays, like Brady did in first 3 months in Bucs.
    ==========

    I have eyes.

    The Patriots perfected small ball, with Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, White, Lewis, Amendola, Edleman, Bennett… from 2007 through the end of Bradys run there.

  136. tedmurph says:

    March 16, 2021 at 9:07 pm

    Swami, of course they’re bargains. Kittle got his 15 mil 2 yrs ago. Prices go up every year. The 2 Pats guys got 12mil. Because the cap went down, many teams had to scrambke to get under the cap. A lot if the Pats signees could have been resigned in normal years. Or, at least a bidding war. Not this year
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    As I’ve already stated and shown with dates, it has NOT been 2 years since Kittle signed his deal it’s been 8 months and there was no way cap going down or not Jonnu or Henry were topping his 15 as Kittle is more wr and #1 recieving threat than just a te. Not all markets are topped every year by the top free agent. QB market goes up but never do you see the next rb or te continue to raise the bar hence why the top salary for those positions have stayed low. As for the overall cap yes it went down but now it’s not going to spring back to what it was before the pandemic PLUS an additional increase and that is what you would need to call these contract bargains which is not happening. The cap next year with any luck at best gets back to what the cap was last year. Everyone wants to say only 12 million but that 12 million is a much higher percent of the cap than it would have been last year and next year it will still be a higher % of the allocated cap than before so please tell me if your taking up more cap % how is it a deal? You cant look at 1 little part and that’s what everyone is trying to do, you have to look at the full picture.

  137. Cam Newton now throws short passes mostly. So they can use double TE formations more than they need a speed wide out.

  138. That’s a lot of $$$ for a guy who has never even sniffed a Pro Bowl. Good grief – Agholor?!? That guys has hands of stone and he gets $22MM? The Pats* are really starting to look desperate with all of these huge deals for mid-level talent.

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see it blow up in their faces as it is rare that you can really change a team through free-agency. Too bad they stink at drafting so bad because that is the real formula for getting better – Pats* forgot that because they had TB12 bailing their behinds out year-after-miserable-drafting year.

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