Laremy Tunsil trade proves a major building block for Dolphins’ roster

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The Dolphins made two blockbuster trades on Friday, first with the 49ers and then with the Eagles, and those two trades resulted in the draft picks that will shape Miami’s roster for years to come. But those trades couldn’t have happened without a previous blockbuster trade.

That was the Dolphins trading left tackle Laremy Tunsil to the Texans, acquiring picks that included the No. 3 overall pick that Miami just sent to San Francisco.

In that trade, the Dolphins sent Tunsil to the Texans in exchange for Houston’s first-round pick in 2020 and first- and second-round picks in 2021. (Houston also traded offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi to Miami, while Miami also sent wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round pick to Houston, but the headline was Tunsil for two firsts and a second.)

With the Texans’ 2020 first-round pick, the Dolphins traded down with the Packers, who drafted quarterback Jordan Love. That gave the Dolphins the 30th overall pick (spent on cornerback Noah Igbinoghene) and the Packers’ fourth-round pick. The Dolphins then used the Packers’ fourth-round pick in a trade to get Miami’s own fourth-round pick back from Houston, and draft guard Solomon Kindley.

Then yesterday the Dolphins traded the Texans’ 2021 first-round pick to the 49ers, then made another trade with the Eagles, and the Dolphins ended up with the sixth overall pick in 2021 and the 49ers’ first-round picks in 2022 and 2023.

The Dolphins currently have two first-round picks and two second-round picks this year, two third-round picks in 2022 and two fist-round picks in 2023. They should be in great draft shape for years to come. And it all started with the Tunsil trade.

58 responses to “Laremy Tunsil trade proves a major building block for Dolphins’ roster

  1. I am so glad the Phins have a competent GM and coach, it seams like it’s been a lifetime to get them…

  2. Sounds negative however hopefully they are able to select the good players. Being able to trade and get good returns is on the GM. Shortlisting players and coming up with your board is based on how good the folks are at gauging talent. Hopefully they are as good as the front office

  3. It all doesn’t happen if a tape of Tunsil smoking weed doesn’t drop right before the draft allowing the Dolphins to trade back with the Eagles at 13 and still get him.

  4. Miami needs to trade for Cincinnati or Jacksonville’s future first round picks. Or another Houston first rounder.

  5. Houston may regret trading their 2021 first round pick, which they could have used to pick a quarterback, given the trouble they have with Deshaun Watson threatening to hold out.

  6. They can wheel and deal all they want, but in the end they have to draft the right players. We will see.

  7. Top round draft picks are gr8 but how many actually pan out to be what they are projected to be? Depends on the evaluator talent to find these guys and seems to be very few of those guys around.

  8. It all comes down to Tua now. If he’s the answer (definitely a question) they are set. If he’s not their upside is limited to a solid competitive team. Ask the Bears and Redskins what a top defense can do for you with a below average QB.

  9. Igbinoghene is a fifth DB at best and a horrible pick. Tua looks like he is an average QB at best.

  10. jasons81 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:26 am
    The funny thing is Tunsil isn’t even that good
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    But better than anything they have. Not sure why people are saying what a robbery these trades are and comparing it to the Herschel Walker traded. Miami has done ZERO with the picks they have gotten so far. LEt’s see what they do this year.

    Tunsil is a two time pro bowler and an all pro. Minkah Fitzpatrick is a TWO time all pro and pro bowler. Kenyan Drake ran for 1600 yards in only 21 starts for Arizona. So I am not quite sure why everyone here is calling this the great train robbery. Miami still has as many holes to fill as they did 2 years ago.

  11. It’s even funnier the fact they traded Tunsil without Houston having agreed to an extension. So Houston gave up all those picks for one year of a guy and had to pay him a massive salary extension, too

  12. 3 first round draft picks!!!!!??? It’s unreal to me. And the Lions of all teams set this crazy bar. Who is the first team to trade away 4 firsts??? Maybe 5? Crazy days in the NFL for sure.

  13. Should have stayed at 12 and kept the extra 1st round pick next year. 1st round picks are 50-50 at best. Every ‘can’t miss’ guy is a complete miss more often than not. Too many college players dream of getting to the NFL, unfortunately too many stop after they’ve been drafted. In my years of watching the draft I’ve learned that there’s more hype than reality when it comes to every 1st round prospect. There are more pro bowlers that come out of the 3rd round than the 1st. Look it up

  14. The best gms don’t need 6 first rounds picks. The best gms get people to come back for less money than on the open market. The best gms find franchise qbs where least expected. 6th rounder out of Michigan or a kid from Wyoming. Or take Herbert over tua. That will prove costly for Miami

  15. Umm, Grier drafted Tunsil and Tua amongst other busts. Hilarious spin.

    237 spen last year in fa with no youth base drafted yet

  16. Would not be the least bit surprised to see Miami trade back again if Pitts and Chase are both gone by the time they pick at 6 and it would not surprise me if they traded the extra first round pick in 2023 to get back into the end of the first round this year if a guy they want/need is still there. However, all of the maneuvering is meaningless if they don’t pick the right guys……..

  17. bmorepositive123 says: “It’s even funnier the fact they traded Tunsil without Houston having agreed to an extension. So Houston gave up all those picks for one year of a guy and had to pay him a massive salary extension”
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    Why would Tunsil agree to an extension before the trade? How does that benefit HIM?

    Seriously, other than Miami offering FULL market value at the extention for a sign-and-trade, Tunsil’s agent is telling him to wait. And the extension would completely waste the last year of a cheap rookie contract. How is that smart?

  18. Somewhere BoB is strumming on a guitar,, probably somewhere New Mexico …Nobody knows the trouble I’ve seen..

  19. louisbcat says:
    March 27, 2021 at 8:15 am
    And the Viking have Rick Spielman. It is just unfair.

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    How so? Spielman has that team exactly where the fan base wants it. Every move he’s ever made has been the best and everything done by opposing GMs has been the worst. If every Viking fan here had been GM for the past 15 or whatever years, the team would look exactly as it looks now.

  20. Joshua Pickett says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:26 am
    You have to actually pick players with it at some point though.

    96 13 Rate This

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    Bingo!

    They overpaid and imported their best players who aren’t even that good. Hilarous spin.

    It’s the sign of a bad GM. Pace does it in Chicago, Snead in LA and Keim in Arizona. This is why these teams will never win. It’s all desperation.

    Grier has a horrible eye for talent, so he will just pick busts as he always does.

    The added picks mean nothing when Grier is your GM. bWahaah!

  21. It turned out to be a great trade for the Dolphins, but at lot of this was because of dumb luck. Who would have thought at the time that the Texans would have the #3 pick in the draft.

  22. If they can get something other than last nights leftovers for Tua, that would be an impressive trade!

  23. Remember when the Skins gave the Rams a king’s ransom for RGIII and not a single player involved in that trade turned out to be special?

  24. The best gms get people to come back for less money than on the open market.
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    Let’s just stop now. It is ALWAYS about the money. If you think a good GM gives a team a hometown discount you are nuts and neither understand football nor the human condition. Sorry to break it to you. If you’re a tradesman making $60K a year and the town 5 miles away offers you $80K do you say no?

    TB was an exception bc his wife made more than him.

  25. Tunsil is a two time pro bowler and an all pro. Minkah Fitzpatrick is a TWO time all pro and pro bowler.

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    Imagine thinking the Pro Bowl, a glorified popularity contest, validates a player as elite.

    Some guys make the Pro Bowl as the result of being on the higher end of the salary scale at there position… this especially applies to offensive linemen. Some guys make it by being traded for a huge haul, which makes the player look better than he is.

    The reality is the Texans had one of the top receivers in the game, didn’t want to pay him, traded him off, and basically paid a LT what they should have paid said WR. The result of that speaks for itself.

  26. The modern equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade.

    I thought about that….and the Ricky Williams trade.

  27. Haters like to hate because they are insecure people. The Dolphins stripped their roster bare two seasons ago and last year won ten games. I would say they have done a great job with their rebuild….SO FAR. They missed on a legitimate franchise quarterback last draft, but it doesn’t mean Tua can’t develop. He deserves a pass last season for the lack of skill talent around him and consistency up front, plus he missed workouts because of a devastating injury rehab. If Tua and the young lineman do not develop this season, then the rebuild will have been a failure. It will all play out this year.

  28. itsamadmadmadmadworld says:
    March 27, 2021 at 11:26 am
    The modern equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade.

    I thought about that….and the Ricky Williams trade.

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    I don’t think the Walker trade will ever be equaled but that’s solely due to the evil genius of Jimmy Johnson. The way he was able to manipulate all the conditions and stipulations so that he just kept on getting high level picks by cutting low level guys was utterly amazing.

    Another thing that blows my mind about Jimmy Johnson is the fact that he took Tom Landry’s AND Don Shula’s jobs.

  29. Chris Grier the chess master is much better then Chris Grier, the talent evaluator. But, to be honest, if you keep making moves to increase your picks then that gives you the ability to miss often and still be relevant. So it’s kind of a love/hate thing for me. Hopefully they can get some hits on these picks…

  30. jasons81 says: “The reality is the Texans had one of the top receivers in the game, didn’t want to pay him, traded him off, and basically paid a LT what they should have paid said WR. The result of that speaks for itself.”
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    Yet Watson had his BEST year after the trade with 4,800 yds, 33 TDs and a 112 rating. The RB in the trade David Johnson had 1,000 yards and 8 TDs, the same production as Hopkins in Arizona at 1/4 of the cost.

    So really, why is it worth it to pay Hopkins $27m/yr? Anyone that knows football, knows you start with the offensive line and not some WR diva.

  31. jasons81 says: “Imagine thinking the Pro Bowl, a glorified popularity contest, validates a player as elite.

    Some guys make the Pro Bowl as the result of being on the higher end of the salary scale at there position… this especially applies to offensive linemen.”
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    Funny. Tunsil was earning $3m on his rookie contract when he earned his first Pro Bowl. There goes your argument about “salary scale”.

    And please explain how highly-regarded football sites like PFF have Tunsil graded as one of the best in the game? You think they’re being fooled too?

  32. Funny. Tunsil was earning $3m on his rookie contract when he earned his first Pro Bowl. There goes your argument about “salary scale”.

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    Vince Young made a Pro Bowl… presumably because he was a top pick and had a so-so year. Was he even a top 10 QB that year? Far from it. There are lots and lots of examples like this.

    It’s a glorified popularity contest that is seldom based on actual merit and more so on name recognition. It’s worth adding that some players played great during a season, earn the Pro Bowl recognition, and don’t get it because they are controversial or have off-field issues.

  33. Although I like Miami’s situation with crazy draft picks coming. It means nothing if you dont hit on them and you have a below average QB. It’s a passing league now. QBs win rings

  34. It seemed like a terrible move at the time, but it does make sense now. Tua really needs to progress along and the dolphins don’t seem nearly as bad as they were. A few sound draft picks could really change things.

  35. finfanjim says:
    March 27, 2021 at 12:49 pm
    Chris Grier the chess master is much better then Chris Grier, the talent evaluator. But, to be honest, if you keep making moves to increase your picks then that gives you the ability to miss often and still be relevant. So it’s kind of a love/hate thing for me. Hopefully they can get some hits on these picks…

    7 2 Rate This

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    Hilarious. Chris Grier, one of the worst GMs in pro footbal, is now a “chess master”?

    Is this the same guy who just cut the quality olb, Kyle Van Noy because he forgot to take economics in college? lol

    When he gets bust Ereck Flowers and non-shutdown CB Byron Jones, you may want to rethink calling him a master of anything, especially after losing a 2022 1st rder which has way more value than a 2021 1st rder due to Covid, and when he stops lying about top 10 draft bust, Tua.

    Good lord. I don’t know who is more delusional, Jets, Bills or Phins fans.

  36. jasons81 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 11:26 am
    Tunsil is a two time pro bowler and an all pro. Minkah Fitzpatrick is a TWO time all pro and pro bowler.

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    Imagine thinking the Pro Bowl, a glorified popularity contest, validates a player as elite.

    Some guys make the Pro Bowl as the result of being on the higher end of the salary scale at there position… this especially applies to offensive linemen. Some guys make it by being traded for a huge haul, which makes the player look better than he is.

    The reality is the Texans had one of the top receivers in the game, didn’t want to pay him, traded him off, and basically paid a LT what they should have paid said WR. The result of that speaks for itself.

    25 8 Rate This

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    “NHPatsFan” certainly believes it as he it is his main barometer in judging a quality player.

    Not fact, reality or any set of real metrics like PFF uses. lol

    Mortifying, really.

  37. Grier sucks. He had 3 1st round picks. He blew the qb pick, picked a complete bust in Noah ig, and picked an average LT when Justin Jefferson was on the board. He didn’t pick one lsu champion except the long snapper. We could have had justin herbert, justin Jefferson and Clyde Edward’s hellair. Then Austin Jackson and hunt in the second. I have absolutely zero faith hell make the right choices this year.

  38. I really don’t understand all the hate here for Grier. He turned over the roster, traded away a great safety and still went 10-6. Now they have loads of draft capital, a decent QB, and nobody killing their cap.
    This team has 3 years to build while winning. What fan wouldn’t want their team to be in that situation save for TB and KC? KC is in the opposite situation – bloated contracts for stars, but no cap room to replace them if anyone goes down. No draft capital for years to come as they will presumably draft in the bottom 5 every year. Also getting worse in the trenches.

  39. Who would have guessed Miami would be involved in GB getting their 3rd HOF QB in a row?

  40. smokeybear says:
    March 28, 2021 at 12:48 am
    I really don’t understand all the hate here for Grier. He turned over the roster, traded away a great safety and still went 10-6. Now they have loads of draft capital, a decent QB, and nobody killing their cap.
    This team has 3 years to build while winning. What fan wouldn’t want their team to be in that situation save for TB and KC? KC is in the opposite situation – bloated contracts for stars, but no cap room to replace them if anyone goes down. No draft capital for years to come as they will presumably draft in the bottom 5 every year. Also getting worse in the trenches.

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    Packer fan here. We’re good.

  41. The draft is like the stock market. If you know what you’re doing, it can really make your future awesome. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you’ll just end up throwing it all away. There are those who have made billions in the stock market, and those who have built dynasties through the draft. But you have to have a decision maker that can tell a good investment from a bad one. In football, you can make a lot of good decisions but you have to get the QB position right. It would be like making a lot of one thousand dollar investments, and only one million dollar investment. You better get the big one right, or you’ll probably not succeed. By succeed, I mean super bowl.

  42. Scott Baily says:
    ” In my years of watching the draft I’ve learned that there’s more hype than reality when it comes to every 1st round prospect. There are more pro bowlers that come out of the 3rd round than the 1st. Look it up ”

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    Since the merger, there have been 6 times the Hall of Famers that have come
    out of the First rd in the draft, for every one HOF’er from the Third round.

    I find your claim very dubious at best. You sure you’re not reading the stats wrong, or creating a false equivalency ? Total number of ProBowls made
    per draft round is the significant number, not the number of different players
    to play in a watered down bowl game, that many elite players are now deciding
    to skip.. . The overall talent is not the same.

    Eg. If a First rd guard makes the ProBowl 9 times over the span of
    his career, and 4 other G’s taken in the 3rd round also make the ProBowl
    once in their careers, it doesn’t mean the quality of guard talent is 4X better
    in the 3rd round, nor is it even close to being equal.

  43. All the folks blaming Grier for past draft picks need to understand, the GM does not unilaterally make the draft choices for their team. The NFL scouts that work for that team have a huge amount of influence on the look of a teams draft board. The owner and coaches also influence the makeup of that board. To blame Grier alone for any perceived miss-steps is disingenuous at the very least.

    All that blame Grier for not picking Herbert have to understand that Grier works for Stephen Ross and what Mr. Ross says, goes. It was common knowledge here in Miami that Ross had a soft spot for Tua.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many hall of fame “hindsight GM’s” there are here in the message boards. It’s funny to think that these armchair experts think that NFL front offices have time machines that can somehow predict the future with 100% accuracy.

  44. “The modern equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade.”

    4x 1st round picks and a 3rd so far, and counting.

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