Nine years later, Kyle Shanahan makes his RGIII trade

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In 2012, Washington gave up three first-round picks and a second-round pick to get quarterback Robert Griffin III. The coach and offensive coordinator at the time, Mike and Kyle Shanahan, respectively, were not on board with that approach.

Nine years later, Kyle Shanahan has made an RGIII-style trade of his own.

Presumably, the trade from No. 12 to No. 3 wasn’t made by owner Jed York, like the RGIII move was by Washington owner Daniel Snyder. Presumably, this move was all Shanahan.

It’s a bold move, to be sure. It possibly was influenced by the fact that Shanahan whiffed on Patrick Mahomes in 2017 by not fully evaluating him or other rookie quarterbacks, believing instead that the 49ers were a year away from signing Kirk Cousins.

Regardless, the investment is significant — and it underscores the belief that Shanahan has in whoever he’s planning to take, whether it’s Mac Jones or Trey Lance or Justin Fields or Kellen Mond (he’s No. 3 on the Chris Simms list of incoming quarterbacks).

By moving all the way to No. 3 in the draft, Shanahan is also buying insurance against the possibility that someone else secretly loves Jones or Lance or Fields or Mond as much or more.

And the picks devoted to whoever the quarterback will be makes it even harder to believe that the 49ers will put that player on the bench for a year while also paying Jimmy Garoppolo $25 million to play (or, given two of the last three years, not play) in 2021.

During the 2019 playoffs, Garoppolo sufficiently freaked out Shanahan to cause him to turn Jimmy G into Bob Griese for the rest of the division-round win over Minnesota and for all of the NFC Championship victory over Green Bay. During a lost 2020 season, Jimmy G’s inability to stay healthy sufficiently freaked out Shanahan to move on.

Why would the 49ers employ a half measure, keeping Garoppolo and putting Jones/Lance/Fields/Mond on the bench for a fully season? If Garoppolo stays healthy and the team gets back to the Super Bowl, then what? Common sense suggests that whoever the 49ers take at No. 3 is the guy, and that Jimmy G is gone.

Of course, common sense ain’t. But nothing the 49ers have done over the past few years suggests that they’d make an all-in move for a new quarterback while also potentially undermine that quarterback’s career by clinging to the guy in whom they no longer believe. If they’re telling the truth about Garoppolo and not simply posturing for a trade, they’re making a big mistake.

Shanahan doesn’t seem like a coach who would make a second big mistake, four years after he made his first big mistake by not taking Patrick Mahomes.

75 responses to “Nine years later, Kyle Shanahan makes his RGIII trade

  1. Lol. This is ridiculous. Garappolo has done nothing but win in San Francisco. Check his record as a starter. He didn’t throw against the Packers because the Packers couldn’t stop the run, so he didn’t need to. Garappolo will be the starter this year and it isn’t a mistake at all. You make “what if Garappolo gets the team back to the Superbowl?” as if that’s a bad thing. Sorry, this is a bad take.

  2. Mac Jones has the mental make up, desire and intensity of a Hall of Fame QB, but you don’t bet the future of your franchise on him becoming one. You do that for a difference maker, a QB who is always and consistently the BEST PLAYER on the field, no matter who he’s up against. A generational type talent..

  3. Chasing a qb like Mahomes while risking the future of a franchise for at least a decade, who let’s these guys make these decisions!?

  4. Thankfully the didn’t take Mahomes. One can only imagine how much better SF would be with that talent matched up with that coaching staff. I’m hoping they try to recoup some draft picks by getting rid of jimmyG. I’m sure the Seahawks would do much better against a rookie QB, than him.

  5. One major ability for players, especially QBs, is availability. Garoppolo’s a good, not great, QB when he can play, but he just misses too much time. Shanahan must believe that the 3rd best QB in this class is elite. Otherwise this trade would never have happened. For SF’s sake I hope Shanahan isn’t all in on Fields. He won’t be an upgrade from Jimmy G.

  6. Not scouting QBs because you might be one year away from signing Kirk Cousins might be the most insane thing I’ve ever heard.

  7. Lance nor Fields are going in the top 10 and likely not in the 1st round at all.

  8. Hope it doesn’t blow up in the 49ers face like the rg3 trade.
    Then again, shanahan & lynch did blow it 4 years ago by not drafting mahomes.

  9. I got the feeling the Patriots were looking at making a move like this and the 49ers got aggressive early in the process to give themselves that security. Also potentially screwing the Patriots in the process if the first 4 picks are Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, Fields.

  10. Shanahan isn’t even the GM. And having a rookie QB sit for a year would be a great idea.

  11. I think there is more than enough evidence to suggest the Shanahans were indeed ok with the RGIII and lied in hindsight to try to salvage the younger Shanahans career.

    After all, Mike Shanahan famous last words to the press were I’m going to tell you the truth, and I don’t do that often

  12. Also, just a reminder…

    The same brain trust who deemed Garoppolo worth a mega contract before he had proven anything are now picking their new savior.

  13. I would not be shocked if Mac Jones was taken at 3. Remember, Niners didn’t want the number 3 spot, but nobody from 4-11 would trade with them. What concerns me about Fields is that when under pressure against a good team, he’s not accurate. Mac Jones is the exact opposite. He plays better. Don’t think so? Watch last years Alabama vs Ohio State game. No reasonable person can refute Jones looked like the better QB. His deep ball accuracy and touch pass is rare.

  14. John Lynch is the GM and so this trade is NOT at all “all Kyle Shanahan” Lynch and Kyle were hired and told to work together by Jed York, because the previous GM and Head Coach did not work together and did not get along either. So, both Lynch and Shanahan have input on this trade for the #3 spot in this draft. Also both would get together and decide which available QB to pick when it is Frisco’s turn to pick one.

  15. Yday was Zwilsons proday and the Jets might jet and take a WR or something .. info SF mite know via staff connections making the pick for ZW which makes it a worthy gamble .. A bold, risky, make-or-break trade no matter what tho – tuff division ..

  16. Yeah why would the 49ers ever bring in a rookie QB and not start him right away.

    I mean that only worked for Brees, Mahomes, Eli, Rodgers, Favre, Rivers, Montana, Steve Young and Tom Brady.

    Not rushing a rookie QB and giving him a chance to sit and learn… absolute foolishness. Why would anyone ever do that?

  17. It’s clear to me looking at likes and dislikes that the SF crowd believes in Jimmy. Almost no one else in the country agrees that he’s anything near good. Interesting.

  18. No Lance and no Fields. Lots of upside but are very inaccurate and don’t read defenses well.

    Wilson or Jones have to be the guy and I’d be happy with either. Wilson has that Rodgers/Mahomes arm talent and flare to his game. While Jones can read defenses and process it fast and has great accuracy with his passing.

  19. Saying the 3rd best QB in this draft is really generic and throughout history almost always wrong. The presumptive 3rd QB taken could easily end up the worst of the class or the best. Trubisky certainly wasn’t the best QB of the 2017 class.. Tua is nowhere even close and probably never will be to Herbert.

  20. They should keep Garoppolo to mentor whomever they draft for one year like Reid did with Smith, instead of throwing their rookie QB into the fire immediately.

    Who better to teach and impart professional knowledge to the new wunderkind, than the highly successful, immensely talented future Patriot QB?

  21. Mike Oxbig says:
    March 27, 2021 at 11:50 am
    Lol. This is ridiculous. Garappolo has done nothing but win in San Francisco.

    You do realize that he’s only started 25 of a possible 48 games in the last 3yrs, right? Would you say the same if it was Tom Brady? It doesn’t matter how much he wins if you can’t count on him to be there.

  22. It’s funny you think the guy who blew 2 super bowls wouldn’t make a similar mistake more than once

  23. 1 month until draft so this isn’t over. Lynch is playing chess. looking forward to how this really plays out

  24. A trade of this magnitude wasn’t worth it then (for Griffin), & it’s not worth it now. Three #1’s & #3? That’s too much for any 1 player. If it blows up, it sets the franchise back at least 5 years. Snyder created a 3 ring circus in DC that exacerbated the situation w/ Griffin.

    Clearly, w/out a great QB, it’s nearly impossible to win in the NFL today. But a great QB w/out a strong supporting cast has its shortcomings too (case in point, KC’s weak starting Offensive Tackles that left Mahomes running for his life in SB LV).

  25. Mahomes went to the right team for him to find success, no pressure, stable, winning coach, great cast around him, best TE in football, most dangerous WR in football, and a decent running game. If he goes to 25 other teams, who knows, he’s maybe a backup today. That’s the life and luck of any player.

  26. arealisticpackerfan says: “Not scouting QBs because you might be one year away from signing Kirk Cousins might be the most insane thing I’ve ever heard.”
    ——————

    That’s only HIS take. Reality is that every team evaluates the QBs, even Packers scouted QBs by picking Jordan Love with Rodgers still at his prime.

    And how convenient 20/20 hindsight is. Why not also say they could’ve “whiffed” on Mitch Trubisky or DeShone Kizer too? It’s great to look back and say Tom Brady should’ve been the 1st overall pick…

  27. In the 2017 draft, no one except the Chiefs saw “that guy” in Mahomes. At the time, he was seen as a pretty common quantity – the physical freak who would require a lot of refinement. Every draft has those guys. So San Fran was part of a big crowd in the sense of passing on him. It was such a good move for the Chiefs, who were already a division-round-quality team without him.

    Glad to see Mac Jones surfacing as the mystery candidate. I’ve been saying this in my comments ever since this news broke. In fairness to Lance and Fields, QBs like them show up in every draft. They’re guys you draft, but not guys you sell the farm to draft.

    This is looking like another Mayfield-to-Browns – we see our guy and we’re ignoring what anyone else may say about it.

  28. You guys go with that narrative that Snyder made that pick. I guess it sounds good when things go the way they went. I don’t doubt he was sold on him, but the Shanahans wanted Griffin too. Wonder who is going to get blamed for this one when it fails because no one does blame shifting better than the Shanahans.

  29. The Niners feel they are contenders for the Super Bowl this coming season – they’re not going to throw it away developing a rookie QB. My guess is they draft Trey Lance (a bigger more durable version of RGIII who needs time) and go with Jimmy G for a year.

  30. “The coach and offensive coordinator at the time, Mike and Kyle Shanahan, respectively, were not on board with that approach.”
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    WRONG.

    It’s not that they were against the “approach”, but the player that Snyder was targeting, RGIII.

    Griffin just didn’t fit Shanahan’s “wide zone” offensive scheme, which in fact, was better suited for Kirk Cousins strengths.

  31. Zack Wilson is the guy he wants and he has to know what the Jets will do with the 2nd pick. Therein lies the real story

  32. San Francisco, NOT FRISCO (a city in Texas), will likely take a QB at #3 and will then sit him to learn behind Garoppolo.

    Right now, San Francisco has a team that is as good or better than the one that took them to the Superbowl in 2020…and that was WITH Garoppolo, just a year off of a terrible ACL injury. . They will not throw a rookie in to gum up the works.

  33. I don’t think it’s Mac Jones because I don’t think there is any way he gets drafted that high. If Jones were their guy, they could likely get him at 12 but if 4 other QB’s go immediately, maybe they trade up but probably no higher than 7 to get in front of QB-desperate Carolina. They would have given up much less to make that move. So, to me it’s Lance or Fields. But I also never would have imagined Mitchell Trubisky or Daniel Jones being drafted at their spots. WAY overdrafted, so you never know.

  34. No rookie quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl. If the 49ers believe they currently have a Super Bowl caliber team, they’re not going to put their fate on a rookie QB for coming season.

  35. mustangmele says:
    March 27, 2021 at 12:38 pm
    I would not be shocked if Mac Jones was taken at 3. Remember, Niners didn’t want the number 3 spot, but nobody from 4-11 would trade with them.
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    That makes no sense seeing how the Eagles traded the 6th pick to Miami for what was the 49ers 12th pick. So theres that…

  36. Zack Wilson is the guy he wants and he has to know what the Jets will do with the 2nd pick. Therein lies the real story

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    That makes no sense…

    If the Jets knowing that they are not drafting Zach Wilson and #2 overall and didn’t make that with the 49ers is criminal incompetency. Kyle will not draft a Black QB… Period! Full-stop… Kyle will draft his version of Kirk Cousins. The 49ers because of this move be back where they were before Kyle and Lynch…

  37. Isn’t hindsight wonderful? I will say this. I follow the draft very closely and the only guy I heard and saw who was raving about Patrick Mahomes BEFORE the draft was former QB Boomer Esiason.
    Esiason was calling him the best QB prospect he had seen in 20 years and raved about him so much I went in and watched videos of him playing.
    It seems Boomer had it right and everyone else pretty much had it wrong, except the Chiefs, who traded with the Bills to go up and get him at #10.
    The knock on Mahomes was that he hadn’t done much playing under center and that he played in Texas Tech’s “Air Raid” offense, which makes it very hard to gauge how good their QB’s are. Plus, there hadn’t been any super star QB’s come out of Texas Tech until Mahomes.

  38. smartestguyintheroom says:
    March 27, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    I don’t think it’s Mac Jones because I don’t think there is any way he gets drafted that high. If Jones were their guy, they could likely get him at 12

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    I think there’s been too much buzz about Jones for them to feel confident they could wait to get him. Atlanta’s almost certainly taking a QB at 4, and who can count on which one? Jones seems like a natural successor to Ryan, if that’s what they want.

    If SF wants to move on from Garoppolo and they have a very specific QB they are after, then #3 is only way to guarantee they’ll get him. It’s about what they have to do to get what they want, not how a player is rated.

    We know who Jacksonville is taking. The twist could be someone making the Jets an offer they can’t refuse and torpedoing SF’s plan, but I think the Jets will stay where they are and take Wilson. Maybe Lance to Atlanta and Fields to Carolina?

  39. The 49ers may not want to put out a rookie qb they draft to start right away. It might be beneficial to sit and learn a little from someone with some experience. Lots of guys are not ready to be thrown in the fire right off.

  40. Mac Jones is the only one on that list I would trust as a franchise guy!..
    His record in college against all SEC defenses… MONEY!!!

  41. So why wasn’t Zach Wilson mentioned? I’ll give you Trevor Lawrence is going #1 but it’s a c’mon man to think Wilson is a lock at #2.

  42. If the logic here is that Shanahan wants to pick the next guy b/c he missed Mahomes then the idea that the 49ers therefore have to move on from Garoppolo does not fit; remember, the Chiefs kept Alex Smith for a year before making Mahomes the starter. The lesson is that Reid felt comfortable having two talented QBs before moving on to start the new guy when he was ready.

  43. riverhorsey says:
    March 27, 2021 at 1:37 pm
    Zack Wilson is the guy he wants and he has to know what the Jets will do with the 2nd pick. Therein lies the real story

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    If this is the case, than San Fran made an epic mistake. They have invested quite a bit into moving up to 3, the jets or some other team could easily leverage it against them, since they already put a down payment on a car they don’t have…

    Which is why you tell the dealer you hate the car you love, and you don’t put money down on cars YOU DON’T HAVE

  44. We always mention the Bears taking Mitchell Trubisky when they could have taken Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson, but actually it was an even worse error for the 49ers to take Solomon Thomas at 1.3 when they could have had Mahomes or Watson… and at a time when their starting QB was Brian Hoyer.

  45. Frisco is drafting a backup quarterback. Whoever is drafted, he would be unlikely to be the starter in 2021 and may not even be the starter in 2022. It is more similar to the Packers drafting Jordan Love than to the drafting of RGIII. People were speculating that the Packers will soon get rid of Aaron Rodgers when that happened. Now it looks like Love may not even have a chance to be he starter before his rookie contract expires

  46. “meanj0e says:
    March 27, 2021 at 12:30 pm
    I got the feeling the Patriots were looking at making a move like this and the 49ers got aggressive early in the process to give themselves that security. Also potentially screwing the Patriots in the process if the first 4 picks are Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, Fields.”
    ==============================================================
    Patriots may be looking to make a trade up like this but no way Miami would have made that trade to a team within their own division.

  47. When will these teams learn. The last 10 years or so, the number 1 thru 3 draft picks that were QBs were outplayed by the later QB picks. Darnold, Goff, Trubisky, VS Prescott, Mahomes, Watson. Allen, Herbert. Teams fall in love with size and arm strength instead looking at guys that just know the game is played by reading defenses, hard work, film study and most of all accuracy. Guys that can throw 80 yards grow on trees. There is probably 25 college QBs that can do that. TB12, Brees never had big arms..they ended up pretty good.

  48. Hmm. “Investing” 3 first round picks and a 3rd rounder into the third-best rookie QB when you already have a serviceable starter on the roster in Garoppolo just doesn’t seem like a move that good franchises make.

    Giving up that much for a rookie QB is almost never a good idea (see Griffin). Jimmy G was good enough to get you to the SB only two years ago, and now you’re not going to get diddly squat for him when it’s obvious you’re taking another QB. Not to mention, the 49ers reportedly could’ve had another serviceable starter in Minshew on their roster for pennies on the dollar.

    Yet you mortgage the next 5 years of your team, while you’re still on the hook for $25 million of Jimmy G this year?

    You can’t tell me that investing 4 premium picks in a rookie is a better move for a franchise that already has a starting QB than trading a 4th-5th round pick for Minshew would have been.

    This is a move that reeks of desperation, and I predict it will be the beginning of the end for the Shanahan/Lynch 49ers.

  49. Jimmy G was inches away from winning super bowl, take that. He is pretty good

  50. The Nioners didn’t give up 3 first round picks. they gave up two picks and traded the #12
    pick for the #3pick.

    THe niners will likely finish in the top 10 in the next2 years, meaning the first round picks that they gave away are LATE first round picks.

  51. radar8 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    THe niners will likely finish in the top 10 in the next2 years, meaning the first round picks that they gave away are LATE first round picks.

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    Late in the round or not, 1st-round picks are hugely valuable. Losing two of them is two fewer players the team can have 5th-year options on, two fewer bargaining chips for future trading (up or down), likely two years where the team can forget about getting any of the best players at any key position. The dominoes that fall from those things alone can create huge complications and expenses in the future.

    If they get a QB who turns out to be the real deal, it’s worth it. KC would probably pay double, triple, or more in retrospect to get what they have. But at this point it’s a gamble that rarely pays off.

  52. If they moved on from Jimmy G after given him a $135M contract, then it is another swing and miss from Shanahan and Lynch. So Shanahan swung and missed on Super bowl while offense coordinate with Atlanta; Mahomes; lost again in Super Bowl while head coach with 49ers, now Jimmy G.
    I wonder, just wonder what would Trevor Lawrence do under Shanahan or his system.

  53. “If Garoppolo stays healthy and the team gets back to the Super Bowl, then what?”
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    File under: Problems that aren’t actually a problem.

  54. I seem to recall a team that traded for and kept both Steve Young and Joe Montana even after Montana got healthy again.

    Their offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach? Some guy named Shanahan.

    I think Jimmy G is gone too, but this is an imaginary problem, esp with rookie scale contracts.

  55. radar8 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    The Nioners didn’t give up 3 first round picks. they gave up two picks and traded the #12
    pick for the #3pick.

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    The 49ers traded the maximum amount of 1st round picks allowed under league rules. Teams are not allowed to trade any more than 3 consecutive years of first round picks.

    This years first, next years first and the year after that is the cap.

  56. Considering how many defensive Niner starters are only signed for one more year, this year could be the team’s best shot to make it to another Super Bowl for the foreseeable future- in which case it makes plenty of sense to keep Garoppolo, who knows the offense, and a rookie QB, for this year. Which means the Niners might not be lying when they indicate they would only trade Garoppolo now if they are wowed by a trade package. Shanahan and Lynch have had losing seasons in 3 of their 4 years- they are in win-now mode, and using a season to transition to a rookie QB would make sense in that regard, especially sense most of the names floated for their draft pick would need development in Shan’s offense. Many teams have waited a while to start a first-round QB, I don’t know why it would be so hard to believe the Niners could do this. But yes, they’ll probably try to restructure Jim’s contract, and yes, he could be traded if they are offered a rich haul.

  57. As much as I don’t like Daniel Snyder taking RG III at that time was a great move that would of proved itself had Shanahan, both of them, not left him in the playoff game to do more damage to his leg. It killed the kids career

  58. NinersFan1973 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:14 pm
    Kyle and his dad never wanted RG3. That was a Snyder trade.

    4 1 Rate This

    ,,,,,
    People keep saying this, what is the evidence of that?

    So to really stick it to Dan snyder, they created an offense tailored to griffin, which Griffin then ran with and took his team to the playoffs, rookie map award, and an injury away from winning against the seahawks. Wow, mental hurdles abound

    Occam’s Razor applies here as well.
    The 2 shanahans never said a word until well after RG3 was injured, you’d think they would have leaked that out in advance of the role year, knowing they were starting a guy they didn’t want, Sr Shanahan, can’t even shut his mouth if he tried, he would have said something that would have stunk of we didn’t want him..

    Maybe they wanted him. They liked him, He gets injured, things go south, and big shan knows Kyle wants to be a head coach Someday so the leaks began.

    Which is more likely?

    I wouldn’t believe a word either of them say. Kyle keeps saying Jimmy G is our guy. And what happened to that?

  59. Kyler Murrey… strike 1
    Tua …. strike 2
    49’er QB pick @ 1.03 … strike 3. Josh Rosen OUT!

  60. In a Division that has Wilson, Murray, the Niners are picking Justin Fields. That would be his RG3 pick.

  61. lammalamma says:
    March 27, 2021 at 12:40 pm
    Yeah why would the 49ers ever bring in a rookie QB and not start him right away.
    I mean that only worked for Brees, Mahomes, Eli, Rodgers, Favre, Rivers, Montana, Steve Young and Tom Brady.
    ……………………
    that didn’t work out for any of those qbs as rookies

  62. I think Florio is thinking short term instead of long term. Yes, they could save 25 million to cut him… for what? Let’s say the Niners take Trey Lance and keep Jimmy G for this year. What is the down side? They already planned on paying him. You let Jimmy G audition for the other 31 teams and if he gets you to the playoffs and beyond… bully for you. You can get back those draft picks because the going rate for a QB1 is 3 firsts. Or, he stinks and can’t stay healthy so you cut him anyway. If it works, then you have the future of the franchise licking his chops ready to go. Look at the QBs that sat for a year learning the game… Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady…

  63. Mike Oxbig says:
    March 27, 2021 at 11:50 am
    Lol. This is ridiculous. Garappolo has done nothing but win in San Francisco. Check his record as a starter. He didn’t throw against the Packers because the Packers couldn’t stop the run, so he didn’t need to. Garappolo will be the starter this year and it isn’t a mistake at all. You make “what if Garappolo gets the team back to the Superbowl?” as if that’s a bad thing. Sorry, this is a bad take.

    Unfortunately for Jimmy G, he is hurt 50% of the time. Cannot win the big a 50%-QB.

  64. The acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree. This is the same stunt that his daddy pulled on Washington with RG3. Shanny, Jr, cost Atlanta the Super Bowl. Now he has had a run of luck with the 49ers. However, Jimmy G is not a franchise QB as he thought, so he is going shopping. The benefit of this deal is that Shanny, Jr, gets at least two years as coach of the 49ers. If the new QB is a world beater, than Shanny, Jr, gets to stay in SF even longer. If he isn’t, than Shanny will leave the 49ers much worse off than he found them.

  65. Seeing alot of fellow 9ER fans wanting Lance and Fields. As if they are going to be the next Mahomes or Watson

    I don’t see it. Fields and Lance are both inaccurate passers and Lance play D1AA and half his TD’s came off of QB draws.

    I could maybe see Fiekds but if Shanahan and Lynch pick Lance. They will be looking for new jobs 3yrs from now.

    I’d take Wilson or Jones before the
    other 2

  66. If this doesn’t work out, at least 28-3 and 20-10 would become the second and third biggest blemishes on his career…..

  67. kevpft says:
    March 27, 2021 at 1:11 pm

    In the 2017 draft, no one except the Chiefs saw “that guy” in Mahomes.

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    The Saints were going to take him at #11. The Chiefs traded with Buffalo for the #10 pick to get Mahomes.

  68. Both Shanahan and John Lynch just signed new long term contracts guys. Neither one going anywhere.

  69. I like Jimmy G but he missed too many games..end of story..I like Sam Darnold and I wishthe Jets would trade the 2..All the things that they raced about Wilson’s pro day Darnold has done..maybe if he could step up in the pocket and have an open receiver…

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