Report: No consensus in Eagles’ building regarding Jalen Hurts

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If it feels like the Eagles have been a little bit all over the place when it comes to the quarterback position in recent months, there’s a reason for that. Apparently, they are.

Rob Maaddi, who covers the Eagles for the Associated Press, recently made this observation on Twitter: “Eagles are unsure about Jalen Hurts. No consensus in the building. After beating the Saints, they wanted to get rid of Carson Wentz. After next 3 losses, they wanted to work it out with Carson. After trading Carson, they considered a trade up for a QB before trading down to 12.”

A trade up surely would have been aimed at landing a quarterback. It feels like the eventual trade down was aimed at removing the temptation to take one at No. 6.

Regardless, it definitely seems like the Eagles lack clarity and certainty regarding their quarterback situation. And perhaps for good reason. There are three types of teams in the NFL: (1) those with true franchise quarterbacks; (2) those desperately looking for a true franchise quarterback; and (3) those who have a quarterback who may, or may not, become a franchise quarterback.

The Eagles currently are in Category Three. Jalen Hurts has shown promise, but they don’t know what he can be. They won’t know for sure until he plays enough in new coach Nick Siriaani’s system to give defenses sufficient film to figure out how to try to stop Hurts. If he plays at a high level even after that point, maybe he’ll become a franchise guy.

Owner Jeffrey Lurie reportedly wants to give Hurts a chance to show what he can do. That’s the best approach. Go all in with the second-year second-rounder for a season, and then reassess the situation. It’s too early to know whether he will or won’t become a true franchise guy.

Once the Eagles know the answer, then they should act accordingly. And if they decide after this year that Hurts isn’t the guy, their trade down from No. 6 to No. 12 gives them the extra ammunition in next year’s draft to move up, if need be, to take another swing at finding what the Eagles haven’t had since Donovan McNabb.

From Kevin Kolb to Mike Vick to Nick Foles to Sam Bradford to Carson Wentz to Hurts, the search continues. If it’s not Hurts, the search will continue. For now, the Eagles owe it to themselves and to the player to see what they have in Hurts.

60 responses to “Report: No consensus in Eagles’ building regarding Jalen Hurts

  1. I think the Eagles do their homework and are very diligent about exploring all options. That sometimes gets misinterpreted as this or that. Do they like Jalen Hurts? Of course they do. Why wouldn’t they? He ran an offense that put up yards among the best in the league in the games he started. And he really gave a jolt to the franchise. He’s a real leader, impressively so. They wouldn’t have traded Carson Wentz if they didn’t really like him. Are they shutting out other options? No. But it doesn’t suggest their being schizophrenic about this. They’re just being professionals.

  2. If you don’t have the confidence that Hurts could be the guy, why draft him so high in the first place?

  3. Quarter back factory of sadness. Gold standard in the era of bitcoin.
    Fire the only super bowl winning coach. Sign Joe “PI” Flacco. Ouch.

  4. Yea and they are telling you what is real after they fired the head coach and the sent the starting QB packing ? Get real.

  5. It certainly appears that they’re all over the place in their thinking. That’s very worrisome. They need to move decisively in one direction or the other, and then go all in towards that direction. If it doesn’t work out, then you can change your course, but indecisiveness will surely bring about failure for the quarterback AND the coach.

  6. Hurts got thrown into the season with no warning, started the hardest part of the Eagles schedule, and beat the #1 ranked defense.

    He was the only thing that made them watchable all year. I want to see what he looks like when he has practiced as the starter and has been schemed for by his coach.

  7. Hurts isnt the answer.Should go get Foles and start him but hey already have Flacco. Total dumpster fire, 1 year dynasty closing for good.

  8. Hurts is a stop gap answer at best lacking arm strength and accuracy to succeed at this level. No mystery why the birds attempted to move up to draft the pro ready kid from BYU. Hopefully for eagles fans Howie has something up his sleeve on draft day.

  9. Unfortunately Philadelphia is using Jalen Hurts as a smokescreen. Jalen is a poor man’s Lamar Jackson and a much worse passer. Don’t be surprised if Philly picks a QB in the front half of the first round. An accurate passer,but not quite as mobile QB like Mac Jones.

  10. Yeah they definitely have me confused about what they are doing as well as getting rid of a super bowl winning coach. Brotherly love certainly doesn’t last long in Philly!

  11. So to be clear. The Eagles had a QB traded him, have a young QB and can’t make up their collective mind. Have draft capitol and might pick another QB. Some may say they are keeping their options open. I think they have no idea what they are doing so they are contemplating doing everything. Their behavior from that weird last game and keeping Hurts on the bench, to their befuddlement at the lack of action on Wentz from other teams speaks to the fact I don’t think Eagles know where they are at the moment. They’ve won recently enough to think we are contenders, until you look at the roster and that’s a laughable conclusion now. From Lurie-GM-to new coach- roster there seems a disconnect on what they actually are now. If they can’t realize if you couldn’t come out of that division last year you are not a contender then they are just living in fantasyland. I’m thinking 3rd place finish next season in the division, and quite possibly 4th. Just my opinion

  12. Remember when Carson Wentz was such a brilliant pick? Good times … good times.

  13. #12, Andre Dillard & next year’s first round pick to Howie’s old pal Joe DOuglas for the # 2 pick (Zach Wilson)?

  14. When teams drift around like a rudder less ship, I always wonder how much meddling on personnel decisions is coming from ownership.

  15. Eagles aren’t trading away Jalen Hurts. That would be assinine.

    Responding more to the video than the article – I think they won’t “give” the job to Hurts, or annoint him. Thats not good for his growth. Its better to have to fight. So thats where having Flacco there is a good fit. He’s been there, done that. I think he’ll be supportive in the QB room, but he’ll also be, like Florio said, a guy who isn’t conceding anything and can push Hurts without the situation being toxic.

  16. sharpdressedfan17 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 5:59 pm
    Unfortunately Philadelphia is using Jalen Hurts as a smokescreen. Jalen is a poor man’s Lamar Jackson and a much worse passer. Don’t be surprised if Philly picks a QB in the front half of the first round. An accurate passer,but not quite as mobile QB like Mac Jones.

    Their aren’t many worse passers than Lamar Jackson.

  17. What am I missing? After Jalen’s first start in which he ran for 106 yards and completed a season high 56% of his passes, he got progressively worse until his final game when he was benched after going 7/20 and running for 34 yards. It basically took one week of game tape to figure out Hurts’ running plays and he finished the season completing 52% of his passes. The Eagles would be crazy to think he’s the long term answer.

  18. All for nothing. The Eagles have been a top 5 franchise the top 20 years. Fact.

  19. I get it, people see Lamar and think they can adapt an offense to be similar. The problem is Jalen’s not as good as a running back as Jackson, and unless he can be an effective threat to score by running every play, it’s just not going to work.

    Lamar is the king of capitalizing on broken plays, that’s the way he puts up yardage in the air. I just dont see Jalen doing the same.

  20. He hasn’t earned the right to unquestioned. Any QB can have a short period of success or ooor play. Good to know differing opinions exist in their organization. Nothing worse than everyone being in agreement all the time.

  21. 302EaglesFan says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:41 pm
    All for nothing. The Eagles have been a top 5 franchise the top 20 years. Fact.

    I get it. You’re an Eagle fan, but the Eagles have not been a better franchise over the past 20 years than the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Chiefs, or Packers.

  22. eaglemd says:
    March 27, 2021 at 5:37 pm
    I think the Eagles do their homework and are very diligent about exploring all options. That sometimes gets misinterpreted as this or that. Do they like Jalen Hurts? Of course they do. Why wouldn’t they? He ran an offense that put up yards among the best in the league in the games he started.
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    They were 1-3 in his starts averaging 20.3 PPG. and averaged 230 yards passing. Hardly among the “best in the league”

  23. portis26 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 5:38 pm
    If you don’t have the confidence that Hurts could be the guy, why draft him so high in the first place?

    71 10 Rate This
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    This is a joke right? That’s how drafting works.

    You draft X player thinking they’ll be good. When you get them to your team, you start to find out if you were right or not.

    If it was as simple as you know who’s going to work and just draft them, you’ve got a crystal ball.

  24. The Eagles used like 15 different offensive line combinations last year because of injury and Hurts played really good dispite having to run for his life and receivers who could not get open. If they get healthy on the offensive line and you get him at least one really good wide receiver he will be great.

  25. They actually made a good move with the trade, all things considered. Now they get to see if Hurts has it. If he does, they’ve got what may end up being three 1s next season to build around him (on top of a bunch of picks this year). If not, leverage those first rounders to get their qb. It actually sets them up to be able to respond no matter what. Now for the downside – this season will likely be trash either way, and then the elephant in the room – Howie Roseman can’t draft.

  26. touchback6 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:06 pm

    I just hope they’re all having fun.

    ///////////

    They haven’t stopped having fun since 41 – 33 😉

  27. Hurts looked like a deer in the headlights last year. He wasn’t close to being good. They better improve that OL or his last name will be tied to the franchise.

  28. I think potentially having three 1st next year tells you everything you need to know about their mindset. Jalen has this year to prove he’s the one,if not they can pounce on one next year.

  29. No one should trust a word Rob Maaddi reports on the Eagles and their thinking on a QB. He’s a Wentz loyalist and will do and say anything to make Wentz look good and the Eagles look bad if it relates to their decision to trade Wentz and go with Hurts.

  30. redlikethepig says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:10 pm

    Remember when Carson Wentz was such a brilliant pick? Good times … good times.
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    Yah, the fact that he helped lead the team to a SB in his second season and fell apart only after the entire OL went down in a COVID ravaged season is meaningless

  31. The drafting of Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round and all the damage it caused will end up being remembered as a more disastrous pick than Jon Harris, Kevin Allen, Danny Watkins, Marcus Smith, or Bernard Williams. Yeah. I’ve been watching the Eagles for decades.

  32. Going all in on a backup quarterback, with a new inexperienced coaching staff has all the signs of disaster. This team will never be any better until it has a new owner and new GM.

  33. I’m not at all convinced every team is going to provide for the media a day to day update on every personnel issue, especially one involving QB decisions. Even if they were inclined to share information, it certainly wouldn’t be right before the draft. It would be like a poker game where some guys showed their hand to everyone at the table, while others kept theirs hidden. Wouldn’t this give some an advantage? Since Hurts is already there, I’m sure he’ll get an opportunity. Even if they draft a QB early, there’s no guarantee he can beat out Hurts. Hurts is so young and so raw, it’s hard to judge how much and how fast he’s going to mature into a great QB, or even if he’s going to at all. From what I’ve seen, he’s come a long, long way from what he was in college. That tells me he’s smart and a hard worker. The physical gifts are obvious. He’s very mature. That’s a pretty good combination. This doesn’t seem like the right time to pull the plug.

  34. ——————–
    PFT Selective Censorship says, in response to EagleMD-

    “They were 1-3 in his starts averaging 20.3 PPG. and averaged 230 yards passing. Hardly among the “best in the league””

    NFL offenses are ranked by yards per game, and in the 3 starts in which Jalen Hurts played the whole game, they averaged 437 yards/game. The Chiefs led the league last year, with 415.8 yards per game over 16 games. So it’s obviously just 3 games and not 16, but over 400 yards of offense is very good.

  35. Foles may have been the guy until Chipped Kelly sent him to the Rams. Just saying.

    Foles did come back to Philly and yeah won the big one.

  36. Lol, 13 winning seasons, 13 playoff wins, 6 NFCCGs, 2 SBs, and a title and you think the Chiefs and their 7 playoff wins are better than that the last 20? Good times, indeed.

  37. It’s not surprising that the Eagles aren’t sure what they have in Jalen Hurts. The kid has only played a hand full of games!
    But — the Eagles should do everything they can to build the team around him and see how he does. If he does well, then that’s good. If he doesn’t, they can draft a QB next year.
    They should not draft a QB in the first round this year, in my opinion. There is no rush to do that because they need so much more help elsewhere. This is not be a win-now team. They should build for the future.
    I am not an Eagles fan, but that’s how I see it.

  38. I don’t care if Hurts overthrows or misses open players. As long as he doesn’t throw balls in the dirt we’ll give you Cam for him.

  39. scutz1972 says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:58 pm
    302EaglesFan says:
    March 27, 2021 at 6:41 pm
    All for nothing. The Eagles have been a top 5 franchise the top 20 years. Fact.

    I get it. You’re an Eagle fan, but the Eagles have not been a better franchise over the past 20 years than the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Chiefs, or Packers.
    ——–

    I’ll give you the pats, steelers and ravens. Shoot, even the giants, but the eagles have had more success or just as much as the packers and chiefs over the last 20 years. 12 playoff appearances, 6 NFC championship games, 2 super bowl appearances and 1 super bowl title.

  40. Once there was film on him he got worse every week. Had a passer rating of 25 in the last game of the year, 7 for 20, 72 yards and an interception. 50% passer for the year. I guess there’s a chance he’s the guy, but it sure doesn’t look like it to me.

  41. He is no Mac Jones but he may pan out at this level..
    If not, you got Flacco, who has experience!

  42. Zero doubt about it, the firmly falling the second category, not third. The consensus is they don’t have a franchise QB on the roster and desperately need one, there just isn’t a consensus in how to fix the situation.

  43. I do not watch Philadelphia all that often, and I think I only saw Hurts in the last game against Washington, but from what I saw before he was benched did not impress me. He had a couple of decent drives early on, but after that WFT figured him out. If he becomes The Guy in Philly, that is probably good news for the rest of the NFC East.

  44. If Jalen can take a giant leap, maybe he can crack the top 20 qbs in the league. He made some decent throws last year. The truth that Philly fans have to realize about last season:

    1) Carson forced his way out by simply throwing the season and not trying
    2) The eagles brass created the situation by not understanding and mismanaging the roster entirely last off season from the draft to free agency
    3) Doug Pederson should’ve been gone the second they noticed animosity between Carson and the coaching staff… Regardless of record, that is a relationship that has to work
    4) The eagles are desperately trying to salvage any modicum of value they can after botching the situation with Carson so horribly. Hence, why Jalen is being given a path to starter when anyone with eyes can see he isn’t a starting nfl quarterback

  45. bird2urmother says:
    March 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm

    I’ll give you the pats, steelers and ravens. Shoot, even the giants, but the eagles have had more success or just as much as the packers and chiefs over the last 20 years. 12 playoff appearances, 6 NFC championship games, 2 super bowl appearances and 1 super bowl title.
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    I do not disagree, but I would add that the Seahawks are probably just a hair better over the past 20 years. 14 playoff appearances, 3 NFC championships, 3 super bowl appearances, and 1 super bowl title. Still, objectively speaking, over the past twenty years, they have been a very good franchise, although right now things look to be in disarray. It will be interesting to see if they get it sorted.

  46. go all in with hurts to give defenses film to figure him out???? They dont need film. By the end of the season teams had already started figuring him out. i hope im wrong for the sake of us fans but i cant imagine this ends with hurts being our franchise qb

  47. I think the Eagles do their homework and are very diligent about exploring all options. That “sometimes gets misinterpreted as this or that. Do they like Jalen Hurts? Of course they do. Why wouldn’t they? He ran an offense that put up yards among the best in the league in the games he started. And he really gave a jolt to the franchise. He’s a real leader, impressively so. They wouldn’t have traded Carson Wentz if they didn’t really like him. Are they shutting out other options? No. But it doesn’t suggest their being schizophrenic about this. They’re just being professionals.”

    Thank You Spuds, your job is secure for another year

  48. I really hate how the QB position gets vastly oversimplified in discussions like this.

    The Philly offense would’ve been geared toward Wentz last year, so it’s not exactly a great fit for Hurts. Hurts, as a young QB, will have limitations and different strengths than Wentz. The team won’t get the most out of Hurts until it gears its offense to his abilities and he gets first-team reps all training camp and in practice during the season.

    He was 1-3 in starts last year. Aikman went 1-15 his first year. Peyton Manning wasn’t very good his first season. It seems that teams and fans have no patience to actually, you know, develop young QBs anymore. If they’re not perfect from the start people want to abandon them – which is ridiculous and a waste of draft capital.

    This kind of wishy-washy nonsense is why some teams never find a franchise QB.

  49. If they give him the right support through coaching, and build around him, he could be a solid starter in this league for years to come.

    People keep drawing comparisons with Russell Wilson in terms of style of play, well he won’t ever be Russell Wilson, but then who is? There likely won’t be another for years.

    He has leadership qualities according to ex coaches and current team mates, he has shown to make good decisions when tucking and running, its just his passing accuracy, which, there is cause for optimism because he was very accurate in college, so at least there is something there to work with.

  50. Since they won a SB the Eagles brain trust ego’s is off the charts. It also appears more than 1 person is making football decisions.

  51. Jalen Hurts is just not a starting QB in this league. There is no difference between him, Jacoby Brissett or Tyrod Taylor. Can come in and play a game or two, but nothing special. Anyone who actually watched the Eagles last season and wasn’t bias, will tell you that teams adjusted to him, especially in the second half of games as well as week to week. As a starter the best he will go this year is 6 or 7 wins. The Eagles will try by draft day to get Watson, even though I believe he will be on the Commissioner’s Exempt List to start the season. If not, they will have more than likely, 3 #1 picks in the draft in 2022 which can easily move you to the #1 overall pick. Make or break year for Hurts. I still believe that there is a chance he will be traded b4 the start of the season though…lot smaller % now though after trading back.

  52. It does not matter how good Hurts is. The team as a whole is void of any talent. And brilliantly somehow they are almost dead last in the salary cap space. Amazing that this fan base has hope for the coming season.

  53. Of course there’s no consensus. How could there be?

    That’s why they’ve positioned themselves to evaluate him for a year while having a slew of 2022 picks.

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