Robert Kraft acknowledges New England’s recent draft failures

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The Patriots needed to splurge in free agency this month due in large part to the fact that the 2020 roster lacked talent. The roster lacked talent due in large part to the fact that the team hasn’t drafted well in recent years.

In a Wednesday conference call with reporters, owner Robert Kraft acknowledged that reality.

“Really, the teams who draft well are the ones who will be consistently good,” Kraft said, based on a transcript provided by the team. “I don’t feel like we’ve done the greatest job the last few years and I really hope and believe I’ve seen a different approach this year. In the end, it all comes down to what happens on the field and how people execute and you really don’t know how good a draft is for at least two years.”

That’s an obvious slap at coach Bill Belichick, who runs the football operations. It’s also an indictment of his primary table-setter since 2009, Nick Caserio — who’s now the G.M. of the Texans.

“We missed, to a certain extent in the draft, so this was our best opportunity,” Kraft later said of the all-in move during free agency.

It’s more than just bad drafting, in our view. It’s a combination of bad drafting and a failure to develop the players who were drafted. Either the players had a low ceiling or the coaching staff couldn’t get them to their ceiling, or both.

It’s also possible that Belichick has little patience for young players who don’t quickly figure out how to be solid pro players, expecting them to sink or swim no matter how big the stone tied to their ankle may be.

Regardless, it’s stunning to hear Kraft speak so candidly. Then again, like the guy who never uttered a word in his entire life until he said one night at dinner that “the damned mashed potatoes are cold” because, as he explained, the damned mashed potatoes had never been cold before, Kraft hadn’t had since 2000 any reason to be dismayed by the fact that his team was underperforming.

83 responses to “Robert Kraft acknowledges New England’s recent draft failures

  1. No wonder none of the coaches or GM’s that left New England won. It was Tom Brady delivering magic, and covering up all the mistakes. Now he’s doing it in Tampa. You can still call Belichick the GOAT, if you want. Heck, you can call him a giraffe if you’re really into animal names. But the curtain has been pulled back on the almighty and powerful wizard. It was all Brady.

  2. Belichick has never felt even a whiff of pressure in over 20 years. This is good. We finally get to see how he fares when Kraft isn’t 100% hands off.

  3. Tb12 may not have had his best games during the Super Bowl but he was 90% of reasons why the pats were there and have 6 rings..no other reason,not bill not Kraft,will never win another while Brady is working on his 2nd with out them ..IDIOTS!!!

  4. As a Lions fan, yes thank you I appreciate your support, add Bob Quinn who got the GM job in Detroit to another NE guy who drafted poorly. We drafted players who didn’t hang on the roster till the end of their rookie deals and the disconnect between whom was drafted and their actual utility was staggering in a bad way. So it’s not just NE, it’s Hou now, DET for the years previous to this coming one. The NE way looks a little more sizzle less steak as we get further away from on field success.

  5. I don’t agree that this in an indictment of Caserio. The draft, like all the football decisions, rest entirely with Belichick. His drafting the last 4-5 years has been atrocious. As a result, they had to pay top dollar for 8 free agents this off-season in an attempt to be competitive.

  6. By far the worst drafting GM in the league. Doink the clown would be an improvement at this point.

  7. So, I have been following the Pats for years, and I have NEVER heard anyone from the organization come out and acknowledge this, despite the fact that Pats fans have said this for YEARS.

    Now, I wonder…

    Nick Caserio is gone now, and this is the first time this kind of thinking leaves the building. I wonder how much of the Patriots’ draft failures were on Nick’s scouting vs Bill himself.

    Ultimately, everything funnels through him, but this seems like an awkward thing for Kraft to acknowledge unless it was now “safe” to admit it now that Caserio is in Houston.

    I guess we will see in a few years how the Texans draft.

  8. Joke of a franchise. How the mighty have fallen. Where’s Stidham? Oh, wait…

  9. Im glad to see Kraft paying attention to some very shoddy drafting by Nick and Bill. But he sent away the next QB and kept Tom . When they kept Tom they should have made a plan to load him up for his last run instead he just walked away because the cupboard was bare and it wasn’t Toms fault. Pats need to hit about 4 homeruns in this draft or some people will have to be let go.

  10. Progress! One step closer to acknowledging the “playing = cheating” legacy of the franchise…

  11. It is difficult to keep players for a successful team. Players on a winning team gets big offers from other teams if they are free agents. Every team that has won a Super Bowl will lose free agents because of the salary cap. That is why it is so hard to win consecutive Super Bowls in the salary cap era. New England has had to make difficult personnel decisions, such as letting Trent Brown go after winning their last Super Bowl. Vegas gave him a huge contract that New England could not meet. It is the same thing for the players they drafted. They cannot keep all the good ones. They have to allow some of them to leave. New England is of course not alone in this regard. Frisco had to trade DeForest Buchner even though they lost the Super Bowl to KC. They simply could not match offers that he was likely to receive.

  12. What did we expect when Coach lets his dog run the draft!!?? We all saw that during the 2020 stay-at-home draft!

    🙂

  13. Exactly. The GM needs to give Bill “chess master” better players. I mean it’s that simple. The GM of the Patriots has been flat out bad for six years now and I am tired of coach Bill “chess master” getting the blame for talent failures. Seriously it is it not his fau…… oh wait Bill IS the GM… damn.

  14. They won CONSISTENTLY while drafting in the 25-32 spots every year. Basically, they’re reloading every year without a real 1st round pick, but a very good 2nd rounder. How many teams can do that for 20 years?

    Seriously, this is like complaining a supermodel has pointy elbows…

  15. Love it. Kraft throwing Belichick under the bus. It’s true, Belichick the talent evaluator is sub par. He’s been riding Brady’s coat tails for years. Now he thinks he’ll spend his way to success. Fraud.

  16. Haven’t drafted well is an understatement. BB has lost his greatest advantage….TB. Guys took less to play in NE for a chance to win the Super Bowl. Now those players want to play for the Bucs, not the Patriots.

  17. Or maybe Belichick’s cold, oppressive coaching style is smothering the rookies` spirit/mojo from day one.

  18. Anyone from the New England area knows the most important thing about Kraft. He is a fan who happens to own the team. I trust the Patriots will get back to their winning ways sooner rather then later.

  19. Wow. I don’t know how any thinking, breathing, feeling human being can read this and not feel incredibly sorry for the New England Patriots. I mean, you just HATE to see it.

  20. The Patriots have a particular blindspot with WRs. They can’t seem to draft good ones. It left them without any WR talent, which frustrated Brady and ultimately resulted in his departure.

  21. Sure Belichick’s drafts haven’t been the best and he clearly could have made some better choices… but it’s a little tougher when you are picking 32nd every year.

    That said…Brady was so good he covered up for all Bill’s bad drafts and now that he’s gone we’ll get a much more accurate perspective on both Belichick the GM and Belichick the coach.

    I think Caserio realized that and that’s why he split to Houston. People questioned why he took the GM job in Houston, which is easily in the worst shape of any team in the NFL. Its because if the Pat’s falter again this year without TB12… his draft failures become more pronounced and he may not have another job opportunity at all.

  22. It’s poor drafting, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with not properly developing players, or being impatient. We do not see mid or high draft choices getting cut, then going to other teams and flourishing.

  23. I don’t really believe he was taking a shot at Bill in his comments, he was just speaking of football in general & it’s operational formats….
    Look, the Pats have drafted at or very near the back of the draft for years, had its coaches pillaged yearly, their assistant GM just lest after years as Bills right hand as well as most of its free agents overpaid for to play elsewhere….throw in the GREATEST QB the world has ever seen coupled with a pandemic that changed the way EVERYTHING is normally done (including opt outs to key players)& what has happened is not SHOCKING at all….I guess you could call it The Perfect Storm….
    Sure, there have been draft misses but EVERY TEAM has had them & MANY of those teams have drafted MUCH HIGHER than the Patriots, so to try to make this story about Mr. Kraft saying or insinuating he has an issue with Bill by just making an obvious comment in response to a football question is really nothing but a story to try and create drama where there really is none….
    Look, the Pats have been the GOLD standard for years, 2 decades in fact….they are use to winning & everything that’s happened as of late has led to that PERFECT STORM & they are weathering it right now trying to correct what they can to best survive it…there’s no magic wand to wave & fix everything as it’s a process & they are attempting to take the necessary steps to get back to their winning culture…. HOWEVER, GENERATIONAL QB’s don’t grow on trees so it may take a bit!!
    Go Pats!!!

  24. Pretty respectable candor…..confirming what nearly all NFL insiders have indicated….that TB12 had less and less talent around him, and was increasingly shouldering the weight of getting the Pats to those last four SBs. Unfortunately it took TB12 leaving to acknowledge what had been happening with the roster for years. The statement “giving TB12 the option to do what was best for him” was a bit of a dodge (for not fixing it sooner), but the statement “it is what it is” was honest. While others may have been involved in scouting, there is no doubt that the draft process has been BB though.

    The truth is that NE has historically been solid at drafting OL/DL, but otherwise the track record hasn’t kept pace with most other teams for quite some time. Ironically NE has probably been better at signing and developing UDFAs at some positions.

  25. Every team has hits and misses. I’ll GLADLY take the misses if we have to draft #31 or #32 each year, like we have for almost 10 years. We haven’t had Top 10 busts like some of the other teams. Keep on hating.

  26. If poor drafting gets you twenty years of dominance, I’ll take it. To be fair, they’ve clearly missed the mark at WR and DB in recent years (as well as K– ouch!). But it’s also worth mentioning the numerous players they’ve drafted and developed (or “busts” from other teams they coached up as FAs) who have turned around and left for huge contracts with other teams

  27. Winning the way they did for 20 years, the Pats never really had much in the way of draft picks and what they did have, Belichick usually swapped for picks in the later rounds. People can jump on the Patriots now but the fact remains, they were in the playoffs almost every year for 18 years. Much of the Pats’ success can be attributed to Brady but get real, TB12 didn’t construct those defenses nor the defensive game plans that Belichick is noted for.

  28. Ironically NE has probably been better at signing and developing UDFAs at some positions.

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    showmeonsunday,

    That is part of “finding gold among rocks” process. It is like Belichick throws a bag of rocks to Brady and let Brady find out if there is any gold among the rocks.

    The key point here is that Belichick had no idea who would be good fits, it was up to Brady to find out.

    Belichick and other Pats coaches thought he could do the same to Cam Newton, that is why they used to laugh at other teams who spent a lot in free agency.

  29. The irony is last year’s Patriots draft might prove to be one of their best.

  30. tonyzendejas says:
    March 31, 2021 at 9:22 pm
    Belichick has never felt even a whiff of pressure in over 20 years. This is good. We finally get to see how he fares when Kraft isn’t 100% hands off.
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    You seriously think Bill has gotten comfortable and that Kraft needs to micromanage him? “Hands off” has worked to the tune of six Lombardi Trophies. Now that Brady is gone, the playing field is level. But that doesn’t mean Bill should have his methods questioned.

  31. Very interesting to hear. The thing about Belechick is he seems to be overly focused on defense when drafting. If you look at his drafts, he seems to pick on the defensive side more than any other team. The attempts at drafting skilled offensive players near the top of the draft have been the worst in the league without question and he hasn’t made many offensive picks over the years compared to other teams. That was on display in 2020.

    As Owner, do you strip away some power from him going forward in the draft department, or do you take the good with the bad based on how great a coach he is? Sounds as if it is on the mind of the Owner.

  32. But that doesn’t mean Bill should have his methods questioned.

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    bkinaction,

    His free agency splurge proved that his methods worked only because he had Tom Brady. Without Brady, he has to build the team like how every other coach does.

  33. Wow! 1 bad year and all the loonies come out. Envy is ugly. I pity the fools when the Patriots right the ship. Their collective heads will explode. It may be as soon as this season, but probably not for another 2 or 3 , if I’m being realistic. Not a bad price to pay for being dominate for 20 years of glory. as an aside, GM Bill has drafted near the end of, or didn’t have a1st round pick, for the last 20 plus years. I can name MANY teams who have drafted much worse with much better draft positions. Cleveland tops the list, but Detroit, Jax NYJ, NYG, Miami, Buffalo etc are much worse over the last 20 years than GM Bill.

  34. All the Patriot detractors/haters who think the team is headed for some prolonged free fall are deluding themselves. Ditto for the fools who think is was all Brady, and that Belichick was just some useful idiot along for the ride. Anyone with any football acumen at all knows that Belichick had perhaps one of his best coaching season LAST YEAR when he won seven games with a horrible roster, decimated by Covid opt-outs, injuries, a QB weakened by the virus who was awful and, oh, the departure of the greatest player of all time. The Patriots, who will make another big move on draft day, will be 12-5 or 13-4 in 2021 and will be in the playoffs. The dynasty rolls on.

  35. So to recap, bad drafting and bad coaching has resulted in 8 SB appearances and 13 AFC appearances over the past 20 years ….

    Even the most ardent Pats fan would likely agree their drafting hasn’t been spectacular. Especially at the top of the draft. That said, clearly drafting isn’t the entire answer. Nor is Brady the other half of that answer.

  36. “Where’s Stidham? Oh, wait…”
    __________

    I think it’s funny how much gets read into Stidham both directions. He’s an example of them missing in the draft on one side AND this hyped-up savior to the other half. When in reality, he’s just a 4th round pick who has looked exactly like a 4th round pick. He was never going to “replace” Tom Brady the same way BB didn’t KNOW Brady was going to be great but still waited until the 6th round just to see if anybody else would take him first.

  37. The same people who for years and years were telling us that Brady is overrated and his numbers in playoff games and Super Bowls were underwhelming and that he’s been bailed out by great defenses are now telling us he’s the only reason the Pats one those years. LOL. Classic move from the hater playbook.

  38. It’s funny how one down year and NE and Belichik are a bunch of lucky idiots with so many playoff appearances. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the idea of Brady getting Superbowl without Belichik, but to say that 6 superbowls and 17 division championships in the last 20 years is ALL one player’s doing is a bit much. As incredible Mahomes is, he couldn’t win it back to back. Before we write off a team that had key players opt-out and needed to rebuild. I’m a Giants fan and I can tell you that there is no one man who is responsible. To be so good for so long means the man at the helm had to be pretty much perfect time after time. Take a look at the scores of the superbowls New England won and none of them was an offensive showcase save for the game against Atlanta and that was basically a rescue accomplished by Atlanta’s coaching and player incompetence. Before we write off Belichik, let’s give him a chance to rebuild first, with at the very least getting opt-outs back.

  39. Belichick put together the rosters that got to 12 AFCC, 9 SBs and won 6 SBs so no, its an incredibly shallow analysis to claim “it was all Brady”, especially since the Pat’s D is almost always very strong.

    Pats had one down year with 9 opt outs including 5 starters i think it was, as Bill reset 20 years of salary cap manipulation and the no nothings here post a lot of garbage about him. He spent a lot in FA this year to get the roster back up to standard and will likely get a new QB in the draft

    We’ll see how it goes after that but laughing at the angry jealous people whose teams the Pats have pounded over the last 2 decades

  40. The “clock” has not started for Belichick. He’s one of the most successful and innovative coaches to ever live. He’ll coach in NE until he decides to retire, most likely after he sets the record for most coaching victories in 5-6 years or so.

  41. they only had one great pick and it was a fluke. if not for that they would have been the bottomn dwellers in the AFCE, behind the jets….just saying.

  42. mhouser1922 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 9:43 am

    All the Patriot detractors/haters who think the team is headed for some prolonged free fall are deluding themselves. Ditto for the fools who think is was all Brady, and that Belichick was just some useful idiot along for the ride. Anyone with any football acumen at all knows that Belichick had perhaps one of his best coaching season LAST YEAR when he won seven games with a horrible roster, decimated by Covid opt-outs, injuries, a QB weakened by the virus who was awful and, oh, the departure of the greatest player of all time. The Patriots, who will make another big move on draft day, will be 12-5 or 13-4 in 2021 and will be in the playoffs. The dynasty rolls on.
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    Belichick’s record last season falls in line with what his record was before starting Brady. He was a losing head coach with Cleveland (36-44) & the 1st year with NE before Brady (5-11). Brady starts after an injury to Drew Bledsoe & the Pats win the Super Bowl. So after 19 years, when Brady leaves, Belichick has his 1st losing record since Brady 1st started. Puts the whole “genius” thing in perspective.

  43. #1 – It is his team and if he isn’t happy, he has the right to talk about it. # 2 – I am sure he had the same conversation with BB already. And # 3 I do believe he called BB a schmuck back in 2007

  44. Patriots are sliding back to being the mediocre team that they were before they stumbled over Tom Brady in the 6th round. Now they are trying to make up for years of poor drafting by spending heavily in free agency. The rest of the league has tried doing that for years. It doesn’t work, as the Patriots are about to find out. Oh well Pats fans, at least you’ll have your memories…

  45. chickensalad43 says:
    March 31, 2021 at 9:12 pm
    QB hell ain’t so fun, is it Pats fans?

    No but winning six super bowls sure was!

  46. jdm08 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 12:02 pm
    #1 – It is his team and if he isn’t happy, he has the right to talk about it. # 2 – I am sure he had the same conversation with BB already. And # 3 I do believe he called BB a schmuck back in 2007

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    I don’t.

    But I do know he owes his money to BB and for BB drafting, developing and promoting Brady, amongst 20 years of draftees or udfas he unearths and coaches up.

    Next, Bob Kraft knows for a fact Goodell has stolen draft picks on trumped up charges due to numerous owners jealous of Bob Kraft and what he’s had with BB/Brady at the top.

    BB had JimmyG ready to go so Kraft is in no position to be talking a
    out of both sidea of his mouth.

    It’s sad and disturbing how dumb our country has become.

    Apparently, Brady’s hs coach and Lloyd Carr taught Brady all he knows, not BB.

    Hilarious logic.

  47. Teams that draft well invest a lot of money in their scouts and get people that actually know talent when they see it.

  48. Anyone familiar with Belichick’s credentials, from his Dad at Navy to Parcells, laughs at anyone who thinks Brady walked in and created all that success. The kid’s got heart, and confidence, but he didn’t stop the Rams in 99, OR 2018. One day he’ll sit down and talk about everything he learned from Bill.

  49. theconfluence says:
    April 1, 2021 at 11:26 am
    Other than WR, where have they gone so wrong?

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    Isaiah Wynn says hi

  50. The drafting at the end of the 1rst round is a bad excuse. They’re are players all over the draft that can help you. As an example, look at the WRs drafted after NHarry that year. Belichick is on a cold streak, no doubt. Even great drafters like Ozzie Newsome had that happen. But, Belichick’s body of work as a GM speaks for itself. All the rings, all the All Pros and Pro Bowlers, all the FA studs signed on the cheap, some great trades. Not even close to being all about getting lucky with Brady. They’ll be back, mark my words. Anyone that thinks BB is on the hot seat? Please, don’t make me laugh. IMO, BB biggest problem is ignoring his scouts, and listening to his buddies in coaching. Sometimes it works(LMankins/PHill). Often it doesn’t. They’ll fix it. Plus, the last 2 drafts still have a lot of players with potential to be good.

  51. nhpats2011 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 1:39 pm
    theconfluence says:
    April 1, 2021 at 11:26 am
    Other than WR, where have they gone so wrong?

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    Isaiah Wynn says hi

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    Dante Scarnecchia is a 1st ballot NFLer as an OL coach in 4 years when he is inducted into Canton. He will be the first non-head coach to go in who never played in the NFL. So, I think we’re good with his judgement, thanks.

    Wynn grades out very well per PFF just like all the rest, whether it be Mason, Thuney, Andrews or All Pro level playing Michael Onwenu last year during a pandemic.

    Any real Pats fan knows the last position on the team to whine about is the OL.

    You have got to be the biggest wet blanket in the state of NH.

    Tell us again how the Pro Bowl is a key barometer on how to judge the quality of a player. bawahaha

  52. HOWEVER, GENERATIONAL QB’s don’t grow on trees so it may take a bit!!
    Go Pats!!!

    Impressive presentation of excuses…yes excuses.Had your comments come from a fan of another team you would label them crybabies and excuse makers. You and many Pats fanboys are disgusting hypocrites……but it’s amusing to see your pain…..but never forget your legacy is not just for winning…..but for being caught repeatedly CHEATING.

  53. Rex Ryan took Jets to AFCCG twice.
    Belichick is now on a mission to prove he is better than Rex Ryan.

  54. Scar was a great FB coach, but he has no chance at the HOF. Not only was he never a HC, he was never even a coordinator. Fuggedaboutit. Dick Lebeau, who did have a short stint as HC, would probably be the best candidate for HOF, based on his DC credentials and innovation. Not a bad player either.

    Neither SMichel or IWynn deserved to be 1rst rnd pks. I would be stunned if either’s 5th yr option are picked up. Wynn is a good player…when he’s on the field. Hopefully they put him in his natural positon, LG, and we’ll see.

  55. Tedmurph,

    Belichick’s free agency splurge proved that the reason Belichick could build the team in a way that other coaches couldn’t was because he had Tom Brady. Without Tom Brady, he has to build the team just like how every other coach does. In other word, Belichick proved that the system that won Pats 6 SB was Brady’s system, not his.

    That, is LOGIC.

  56. tedmurph says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    Scar was a great FB coach, but he has no chance at the HOF. Not only was he never a HC, he was never even a coordinator. Fuggedaboutit. Dick Lebeau, who did have a short stint as HC, would probably be the best candidate for HOF, based on his DC credentials and innovation. Not a bad player either.

    Neither SMichel or IWynn deserved to be 1rst rnd pks. I would be stunned if either’s 5th yr option are picked up. Wynn is a good player…when he’s on the field. Hopefully they put him in his natural positon, LG, and we’ll see.

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    I think we can also add that N’Keal Harry didn’t deserve to be a 1st round pick either…..especially with DK Metcalf available

    As for Wynn, he has played in 18 games in three seasons including 4 postseason games…so 18 out of a possible 52 games….

    Yeah @T6…what a great pick

  57. William Lee says:
    April 1, 2021 at 9:09 am
    Ironically NE has probably been better at signing and developing UDFAs at some positions.

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    showmeonsunday,

    That is part of “finding gold among rocks” process. It is like Belichick throws a bag of rocks to Brady and let Brady find out if there is any gold among the rocks.

    The key point here is that Belichick had no idea who would be good fits, it was up to Brady to find out.

    Belichick and other Pats coaches thought he could do the same to Cam Newton, that is why they used to laugh at other teams who spent a lot in free agency.

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    Like Brady found the gold in Malcolm Butler? I guess by letting the score of the game get so close. Oh yeah, Brady stopped Lynch short of the goal line, then used his experience as a recent Seahawk to tell Butler how to defend that pass.

    Btw, this post is not an invitation for tiresome fans of other teams to pretend they care that Butler was benched against the Eagles.

  58. Like Brady found the gold in Malcolm Butler

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    Do you realize that if Brady had scored 24 points, Seahawks would have won with a FG?

    It is not like Seahawks had top offense like Chiefs offense, there were lot of defense that could limit that offense to 24 or less, like Packers defense.

  59. nhpats2011 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    tedmurph says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    Scar was a great FB coach, but he has no chance at the HOF. Not only was he never a HC, he was never even a coordinator. Fuggedaboutit. Dick Lebeau, who did have a short stint as HC, would probably be the best candidate for HOF, based on his DC credentials and innovation. Not a bad player either.

    Neither SMichel or IWynn deserved to be 1rst rnd pks. I would be stunned if either’s 5th yr option are picked up. Wynn is a good player…when he’s on the field. Hopefully they put him in his natural positon, LG, and we’ll see.

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    I think we can also add that N’Keal Harry didn’t deserve to be a 1st round pick either…..especially with DK Metcalf available

    As for Wynn, he has played in 18 games in three seasons including 4 postseason games…so 18 out of a possible 52 games….

    Yeah @T6…what a great pick

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    Here comes Tweedle Dee and Dumb right on time.

    Wynn was NEVER going to play his rookie year behind Trent Brown. Fact. Nate Solder was also redshirted in 2011, so you can take 16 games off your little checklist of stupidity.

    What’s next, Trey Flowers sucked because he too didn’t play his rookie year?

    Wynn grades out as elite 2 years in a row in some categrories, with crap qb play. He’s also versatile and can play Guard.

    I never said he was “great”. He’s not as great as Thuney or Andrews but he’a good and I truly appreciate the great Scarnecchi’s opinions and hep with these kinds of draft picks because they are fantastic overall.

    You two have to be a real joy at a party. Perennial, miserable losers.

    What’s super funny is how you two imbeciles think you know more about the sport than BB all from your little smelly basements.

  60. Vasteelerfan says:
    April 1, 2021 at 2:38 pm
    HOWEVER, GENERATIONAL QB’s don’t grow on trees so it may take a bit!!
    Go Pats!!!

    Impressive presentation of excuses…yes excuses.Had your comments come from a fan of another team you would label them crybabies and excuse makers. You and many Pats fanboys are disgusting hypocrites……but it’s amusing to see your pain…..but never forget your legacy is not just for winning…..but for being caught repeatedly CHEATING.

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    NE has never been “caught” doing anything. Cheating owners, including yours, have changed rules and framed NE.

    You haven’t seen the doc “4 Days In Fall” yet, huh? Why not? Afraid of the truth?

    When the Easter Bunny comes by your house on Sunday morning, little guy, wave hello for me.

    bWahaah

  61. touchback6 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 4:18 pm
    nhpats2011 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    tedmurph says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    Scar was a great FB coach, but he has no chance at the HOF. Not only was he never a HC, he was never even a coordinator. Fuggedaboutit. Dick Lebeau, who did have a short stint as HC, would probably be the best candidate for HOF, based on his DC credentials and innovation. Not a bad player either.

    Neither SMichel or IWynn deserved to be 1rst rnd pks. I would be stunned if either’s 5th yr option are picked up. Wynn is a good player…when he’s on the field. Hopefully they put him in his natural positon, LG, and we’ll see.

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    I think we can also add that N’Keal Harry didn’t deserve to be a 1st round pick either…..especially with DK Metcalf available

    As for Wynn, he has played in 18 games in three seasons including 4 postseason games…so 18 out of a possible 52 games….

    Yeah @T6…what a great pick

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    Here comes Tweedle Dee and Dumb right on time.

    Wynn was NEVER going to play his rookie year behind Trent Brown. Fact. Nate Solder was also redshirted in 2011, so you can take 16 games off your little checklist of stupidity.

    What’s next, Trey Flowers sucked because he too didn’t play his rookie year?

    Wynn grades out as elite 2 years in a row in some categrories, with crap qb play. He’s also versatile and can play Guard.

    I never said he was “great”. He’s not as great as Thuney or Andrews but he’a good and I truly appreciate the great Scarnecchi’s opinions and hep with these kinds of draft picks because they are fantastic overall.

    You two have to be a real joy at a party. Perennial, miserable losers.

    What’s super funny is how you two imbeciles think you know more about the sport than BB all from your little smelly basements.

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    Wynn 1st round pick. He better be “great” as that is what is expected from 1st rounders.

    @T6, You are not an actual Patriots’ fan….you are more like a BB apologist to the extreme. Are you really Linda Holliday? That would actually make sense

  62. William Lee says:
    April 1, 2021 at 9:24 am
    But that doesn’t mean Bill should have his methods questioned.

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    bkinaction,

    His free agency splurge proved that his methods worked only because he had Tom Brady. Without Brady, he has to build the team like how every other coach does.

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    Oh boy. Here comes another alongside Tweedle Dee and Dumb, good ol’ Billy Lee and his low iq.

    When Brady crapped himself in the 2007 and 2011 postseasons losing twice to the Giants with loaded weaponry everywhere, what were you doing? Praising his awful play? If so, why?

    BB wasn’t. He was wondring how his smart, no ego qb, changed ans wanted to throw 50 times from the shotguh every week, with leads.

    I’ll give you a hint: #18 in Indy and the media attention he got from STATS made Tommy Boy jealous.

    When BB gave Tommy and his hair plugs from Giselle his little toys in 2007, Tom Brady became a WORSE qb. That’s why BB dealt Moss in 2010. It’s why Brady sucked from weeks 1-4 and then played like an MVP the the rest of the way.

    Best draft pick? Brady. Second best? JimmyGaroppolo. Brady feared for his job starting in 2014. Brady’s postseason play and back under Center shows that.

    Maybe you were asleep when all of this happened? lmao

  63. When Brady crapped himself in the 2007 and 2011 postseasons losing twice to the Giants with loaded weaponry everywhere,

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    TD6,

    Did you see how Brady struggled in Bucs when he had to hold balls for big plays?

    That is what happened between 2007 and 2012. Anyone with eyes can tell that the system in 2007 was different from one the one before 2007, thanks to Belichick who abandoned Brady’s system in 2007 and adopted a system like Peyton’s, under which Brady held balls for big plays.

    BTW, it is one of the FACTs that proved that the offense system before 2007 was not Belichick’s.

  64. William Lee says:
    April 1, 2021 at 4:14 pm
    Like Brady found the gold in Malcolm Butler

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    Do you realize that if Brady had scored 24 points, Seahawks would have won with a FG?

    It is not like Seahawks had top offense like Chiefs offense, there were lot of defense that could limit that offense to 24 or less, like Packers defense.

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    Brady is terrible in the 1st qtr of SBs. He was in that one and the 3rd qtr as well.

    Same deal vs Atlanta. Pick 6, completely duped by the switch to zone D. You think Brady craps gold every day of his life like the creepy man you are.

    NEs Ds and STs are responsible for most of NEs SBs wins, not Tom Brady. Brady just happena to play qb, sometimes managed games very well, but he didn’t against the Giants, did he? Nope. He sucked and sucked in the title games with the defenses, neither the strength of those teams outperformed Brady and his chosen style of offense BB gave him.

    “I prefer the shotgun” – Tom Brady

    “Not anymore ya don’t. – BB, 2014

    Go read Mike Lombardi’s book. He shreds Brady a new one with his horrible game management out of the shotgun spread, finesse base.

    Brady should be thanking his lucky stars for that move back to the older offense and BB signing James Develin, too. Not a coincidence Brady didn’t want FBs on those teams from 2007-2012. He wanted more guy to pass to from the shotgun, predictably so.

    Your dreamy like outlook towards Brady is disturbing.

  65. TD6,

    Anyone with eyes can tell that the system in 2007 was different from the one before 2007.

  66. I love people that drink the Kool-Aid, and make up they’re own facts. Especially seeing they know someone within the organization. Thuney started as a rookie, and has played every game for the Pats since drafted. Nate Solder was not redshirted in 2011, but appeared in 13/16 games. He started in the SBowl. Andrews started wk 1 as an undrafted FA, over Stork and Wendell. Tell me about 1rst rnd pick IWynn again. Yeah, call people more names, child.

  67. nhpats2011 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 4:33 pm
    touchback6 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 4:18 pm
    nhpats2011 says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    tedmurph says:
    April 1, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    Scar was a great FB coach, but he has no chance at the HOF. Not only was he never a HC, he was never even a coordinator. Fuggedaboutit. Dick Lebeau, who did have a short stint as HC, would probably be the best candidate for HOF, based on his DC credentials and innovation. Not a bad player either.

    Neither SMichel or IWynn deserved to be 1rst rnd pks. I would be stunned if either’s 5th yr option are picked up. Wynn is a good player…when he’s on the field. Hopefully they put him in his natural positon, LG, and we’ll see.

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    I think we can also add that N’Keal Harry didn’t deserve to be a 1st round pick either…..especially with DK Metcalf available

    As for Wynn, he has played in 18 games in three seasons including 4 postseason games…so 18 out of a possible 52 games….

    Yeah @T6…what a great pick

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    Here comes Tweedle Dee and Dumb right on time.

    Wynn was NEVER going to play his rookie year behind Trent Brown. Fact. Nate Solder was also redshirted in 2011, so you can take 16 games off your little checklist of stupidity.

    What’s next, Trey Flowers sucked because he too didn’t play his rookie year?

    Wynn grades out as elite 2 years in a row in some categrories, with crap qb play. He’s also versatile and can play Guard.

    I never said he was “great”. He’s not as great as Thuney or Andrews but he’a good and I truly appreciate the great Scarnecchi’s opinions and hep with these kinds of draft picks because they are fantastic overall.

    You two have to be a real joy at a party. Perennial, miserable losers.

    What’s super funny is how you two imbeciles think you know more about the sport than BB all from your little smelly basements.

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    Wynn 1st round pick. He better be “great” as that is what is expected from 1st rounders.

    @T6, You are not an actual Patriots’ fan….you are more like a BB apologist to the extreme. Are you really Linda Holliday? That would actually make sense

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    Season tix since ‘78 in the family, names on seats. I’ll inherit them soon.

    I am just not an entitled idiot like yourself making it seem like they should have won 12 sbs and the one holding them back was BB, when I know how incredible his work has been. The greatest ever. So great, owners fired Tagliabue and hired a guy willing to cheat for owners who didn’t like one team taking most of the market share. That’s how great BB is as an architecht and you mock it? There is no way you are a Pats fan becaus if you are, you have a serious mental disorder like our friend, Billy Lee here.

    What BB has given the fans, including Brady, is 2 dynasties, the second in the face of a cheating commissioner partially hired to slow his brilliance as GM and Coach. Think about that. Owners so jealous of Kraft trading for BB and then Bb drafting and promoting his own chosen qb like he did in Cleveland when he was allowed to fire Kosar and improve the team with VinnyT.

    BB runs it like a business which is the secret to the sustained success compared to other teams. Just because you and others aren’t business people and not highly educated, and don’t get it, doesn’t mean you are superior to him at his job of so many years.

    Watch TB fall off year by year and BB start to build another perennial winner again. That’s what he does. He built the dynasty twice, not Brady.

    Manning would have more rings, so would Rodger and Brees if it was just the qb. They don’t, yet the precious “stats” are very close. Hmmm.

    Brady threw an appalling 5 ints in 2 games leading to the sb and his tin games and Ds won his last 2 sbs. Some of us actually watch and know facts.

  68. TD6,

    BTW, in the middle of 2013, Gronk was injured and out.

    With no one to throw to downfield, Brady had no choice but turned the system back to his system (the emergence of Edelman), and Pats started winning SB again.

    The change of offense system in 2007 alone is enough to prove that the system behind Pats dynasty was Brady’s, not Belichick. That, is LOGIC.

  69. The Pats have run the same HBulloch/RPerkins offense since the Parcells days. Weis and McDaniel tweaked it based on personnel and matchups, but it’s the same. Love to see someone that knew what they were talking about post.

  70. Have to love Pick6 and his fabricated facts. BB can do no wrong in his eyes. The obsession is real.

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