Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine

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The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those.

In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”

It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.

Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.

“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”

However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.

119 responses to “Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine

  1. He is right…it’s everyone’s choice. He shouldn’t feel any extra pressure from the NFL or being a public figure. It’s his health.

  2. His choice. I am wavering both ways as well. Quick question…if you get the vaccine would you have to quarantine still when exposed?

  3. “He’s gonna be crucified for this. I hope he’s ready for it.’

    Josh Allen has been crucified his entire career. I think he’s ready for it.

  4. if you wanna get the shot, get it. if you don’t, don’t. no one should feel pressured or pressure others to do so.

  5. No one should be forced to get a vaccine. I looked at this, and the positives really outweighed the negatives. So i got the shot.

  6. Unfortunately, people that are pro-vax are seen as brainwashed by science
    People that are anti-vax are seen as dense.
    And people that are unsure are intellectuals.

    In reality, getting it benefits society, not getting it jeopardizes you and your loved ones.

  7. Moron alert.

    Did you choose to not get the polio or tuberculosis vaccine?

    Why are people ao dumb, selfish and afraid of science?

  8. Josh knows his own personal health risks as well. If he does not have any pre-existing co-morbidity condition, at his age Covid19 would statistically represent a near zero health risk. So he may be balancing that against a new vaccine of a type (mRNA) that has never been used and thus has no long term health effect tracking. And the vaccine makers make no claim that that you cannot transmit Covid19 after receiving the vaccine, so for a person in Allen’s personal health situation, the vaccine side effects and unknown long term implications may be a greater statistical threat than the disease itself.

  9. It’s everyone’s right to make their own choice. It takes years for fda to approve things, this was pushed through rather quickly. Maybe it does what it’s supposed to and maybe it doesn’t. Jury is still out on it will actually cover or varients. What is also not known is it’s affects on your health 10 years from now. So take or don’t take the shot but don’t throw shade, snide remarks which border on bullying to those who don’t agree with you.

  10. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy.”

    If you’re “debating” getting the vaccine, you’re clearly neither.

  11. You wanna put something in your body that’s not even FDA approved? Go for it. You can have my dose. There have been reports of people still catching covid and dying even after being vaccinated and you wanna stick that in your body? Again, you can have my dose.

  12. Some of you are right in that it’s an individual’s choice as to whether or not he/she gets the vaccine. And thank god we live in a country with this much freedom. It is a selfish choice to deny the vaccine, however. There’s no denying that. And there shouldn’t be any crying when one is judged on their selfish choices.

  13. You should be required to get the vaccination to attend school including college.

    But I can’t see requiring vaccination to attend football games.
    But the NFL should require players, coaches, and staff who are not vaccinated to isolate during the season, just like last year. Players who don’t get vaccinated and get Covid shouldn’t be paid during time missed. Same for coaches and staff. And if you break protocol and can infect others you need a bigger penalty.

  14. It’s his right to choose. I also feel like that’s how it should be, but not every single country is forcing anyone to have it. The “this is America” crowd needs to calm down, it’s not North Korea past the US border.

  15. 99.8% survivability vs. experimental gene therapy… hmmm… I’ll take my chances with the virus.

  16. No one should be forced to get a shot. But who exercise that freedom should find themselves restricted from others. I guess the concept of herd immunity is too complicated for some.

  17. “It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. ”

    Maybe the stats he’s interested in are how Covid affects healthy 24 year olds, and whether a vaccine is warranted for someone in his situation. For the public health interest, he should get the vaccine. For him personally, it’s not something he necessarily needs. Note, I’m getting my first shot on Sunday, so I’m not any sort of denier.

  18. I got my vaccine last week and I hate needles. But I got over my fear of needles (I have autism so that wasn’t easy) for the public good and to protect my family. If I can do it so can you.

  19. There’s no reason he needs to get it. He’s young and not obese. He’s in lowest risk demographic.

  20. The 95% stat that was cited is only after a few months. While we all hope for the long term safety and efficacy of the vaccines to be proven, there are no statistics on the long term effects of this vaccine.

  21. From a Bills Fan. Don’t do it. You are healthy and no one knows the long term effects of how the vaccine will effect your immune system.

  22. So what is the downside of getting a free shot with a high efficacy rate to a virus that can not only harm you but those you care for with minor possible side effects?

  23. There is something in the Constitution about getting a vaccine? Defending your right not to? Must have missed that one. Oh, and…”It’s getting harder and harder to express yourself one way or the other.” What? It is the exact opposite of that right now. There has never been a time with more expression in the history of the world.

    Stop trying to outsmart yourself and stop listening to cable news. Get your freaking vaccine so we can move on from this…as a society. As Americans.

  24. I’m so tired of this it’s a choice ridiculousness. You can kill people by breathing on them. My right to not get killed by you being a selfish moron outweighs you’re right to be a selfish moron.

  25. It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot _____________ How about what happens 12 months after vaccination? 18 months? 24 etc? I work in healthcare and got vaccinated as soon as I could, but I also understand the fact that there is a lot of unknown here and completely respect anyone who wants to wait, especially if there is a 1 in 6 billion chance of dying from it, which is Josh Allen’s statistic

  26. It’s pretty simple right now, get it if you want it, don’t get it if you’re unsure or flat out don’t want it. Mandates for the vaccine by governments or employers is not a smart practice right now. There needs to be more long term data to confirm things such as how long it’s effective and how does it impact the body before forcing it on people.

  27. Don’t worry Josh. Like with most vaccines, the people that take them, protect the ones who don’t.

  28. That’s up to him. He’s young and if he does get infected it might be mild, but then again he might then infect some loved one which could be serious. But when he says “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it,” that doesn’t sound logical.

  29. People should have the right to choose. But don’t tell those of us that do get them that we still have to live under restrictions indefinitely just because some people that choose not to do it are still theoretically vulnerable. With freedom comes responsibility. Get the vaccine or don’t, but it’s not my responsibility to continue living under a rock in order to protect you. I think the people that don’t want the vaccine would agree.

  30. It’s funny how some think it’s so important, but if you ask them if they got the flu shot this year, they say no and then they don’t know what to say…

  31. Almost 600,000 dead in America from Covid. Maybe Allen needs a kick in the teeth to wake up from his sleep.

  32. Getting a vaccine virtually guarantees a player will not miss any games because of testing positive for the virus. It also prevents any long term health problems, including damages to internal organs. What is the risk in getting the vaccinne? A 5 in one million chance of having blood clots. Debate over.

  33. He could get the vaccine and prevent the spread of the virus and possible variations while almost guaranteeing that he’d not suffer a severe case if he caught it or he can not get the shot for reasons.
    “I’m a big statistics and logical guy.“ obviously not if you don’t think the vaccine numbers speak for themselves can’t see that having those that can get immunized would get us back to normal.
    We had eradicated measles in the US until this wave of anti science became popular and we let personal opinion or beliefs get in the way of science fact.

  34. In the USA there are mandates to stop one’s car when the traffic light turns red, and to stop when the light flashes at a railroad crossing, whether Josh Allen likes these mandates or not. It is not good enough just to be smart on a football field. One has to be smart in real life as well.

  35. He is a public figure and whether he likes it or not, people listen to his musings. COVID-19 just killed half a million people in the US (let that sink in). He has a right to decide what he wants, but should not pretend to be enlightened on the science when clearly he is not. He should have kept his mouth shut and told people to speak to their doctors. I lost a lot of respect for Josh today

  36. The 1 year of studies show great results so far. How about longer term studies? Impossible to know the results. So it’s a coin flip.

  37. No one should be forced to get it. However, you should be mocked relentlessly if you aren’t smart enough to realize that it’s an easy decision.

  38. No one should be forced to get the vaccine.

    Also, no business owner should be forced to allow an unvacccinated person into their grocery store,, hotel/motel, stadium, movie theater, restaurant, gym,office building, bank, post office, or any other place of public or private business.

    I’m totally okay with you being an anti-vaxer. But if the proprietor says you need one to step inside, that’s your loss. IDGAF.

  39. Stay safe out there, Josh. The fans are trusting your common sense will prevail.

  40. Isn’t it ironic that those who say “my body, my choice” are now the one’s telling you to shut up and get a shot?

  41. If Allen gets crucified for this, then he’ll come back as America’s savior. I absolutely LOVE that he spoke out for the freedom of choice. If we don’t have that, then we don’t have America. Now let’s all get healthy! Love to All!

  42. I don’t actually mind wearing a mask. I have to wear one while I’m working a lot to keep stuff out of my lungs like concrete dust and sheet rock dust.

    I haven’t stopped working during the Pandemic and have been lucky enough not to get the virus but I don’t want the dang thing either so I’ll keep wearing my mask when in close quarters with other people.

    Having said that, I like the science behind the new vaccines, the MRNA ones anyway, so when offered I will get the shot. Not because I’m afraid of the virus or even dying for that matter. I’ll get it because I’m not afraid of the Vaccine.

    I’ll probably still wear my mask though afterwards, at least for a while and where it’s still mandatory like grocery stores and other establishments.

    I don’t think it should be mandatory either but you would think more people would want to get it just to help try to get us back to life before the virus. There may be others and there is no guarantee the vaccine will work permanently especially with all the mutations but its a good first step to normalcy.

  43. Constitution? Is he serious? There is no mandate in the Constitution that states it is okay to defy public health mandates by the federal govt as far as I know and I know. Just take the vaccine and save others around you Josh! Do it for all of us young man.

  44. In my area if you get vaccinated, you are still required to mask, still required to social distance, and still required to quarantine if exposed and the cherry on top is you may need another next year. The reasoning for all of it is because you can still spread the virus even if vacinated..? So when they say they are 97 percent effective I guess my question is, Against what?

  45. If you don’t get vaccinated the only person you are compromising is yourself and therefore it should be your choice.

  46. The latest numbers show a 99.4% overall survival rate so this with the vaccine would move that to 99.9%

  47. we will see a lot of public shaming this year for players that exercise their right to govern what goes in to their own bodies

  48. I am pro vaccine and got my COVID shots. That being said, that was my body and my choice. I wouldn’t judge anyone who didn’t want to do it for their own reasons.

  49. You can’t mandate under federal law a vaccine approved under an Experimental Use Authorization. That being said, how many people have died from Covid vs how many have died from the vaccine? Do the math!

  50. It’s a free country – he doesn’t have to go to the doctor at all. Or the dentist. Probably good to avoid the opthalmologist too.

  51. “He’s right, this is America, you have a choice.”

    “He is right…it’s everyone’s choice.”
    ________________

    Do you also have the right not to be vaccinated against the measles? Polio? Do you have the right to be part of bringing back terrible diseases that have been eliminated due to the miracle of vaccines?

    Your right to choose ends when that choice endangers the health of everyone.

  52. It’s an experimental gene therapy. It’s not FDA approved, and won’t be for quite some time. It’s being given under what’s known in the regulatory compliance world as an Emergency Use Authorization. Therefore, no one should be forced or pressured to get the shot.
    While many have had it and the results are mostly positive all over the world, it’s not something that should be forced on people, given it’s status as an experimental drug, and the fact that the manufacturers have been given complete immunity from liability. It’s fascinating because over 99% of people who contract the virus recover yet this has become quite the controversial topic.

  53. neverdieeasy says:
    April 7, 2021 at 7:59 pm
    His choice. I am wavering both ways as well. Quick question…if you get the vaccine would you have to quarantine still when exposed?
    ——————————
    The cdc says that after a week from your second dose you only have to quarantine after an exposure IF you show symptoms,

  54. I’d never get a vaccine that was rushed into production to appease the politicians of the world.

  55. I looked at the positives and negatives and decided NOT to get the so called ‘safe’ vaccine.
    I’ll take my chance with covid instead of the possibility of having long term DNA damage.

  56. Yes! This is America. And we have certain rights. And some on this site are saying if they don’t wear there mask its ok to pass the virus off to whoever is in your germs range. Perhaps some one with the virus cough on your love ones at the grocery store.I guess that is ok with you.People on a ventilator family think otherwise.And I guess as a joke you think its ok to yell fire fire in a pack movie house.Bill

  57. Those of you downvoting personal freedoms are frightening. Why should you worry about someone else? If YOU get the shot and believe in all it’s magic, you’re fine! It’s logically impossible for another person’s choice to affect you. It boggles my logical mind that those who get the shot are still living in fear and pressuring others to do the same. Still wearing masks too. This is about compliance with no logic whatsoever.

  58. rugbyred says:
    April 7, 2021 at 8:37 pm
    No one should be forced to get a vaccine. I looked at this, and the positives really outweighed the negatives. So i got the shot.
    ——-
    Spot on, the positives vastly outweigh the negatives (please someone smarter than me tell me the negatives). This isn’t one of those ‘the gov’t is forcing me to do this infringing on my rights’ kind of thing. It’s health and science people, let’s not overthink it. And remember, it’s about making OTHERS safer too. Is a 24 year pro athlete in grave danger of Covid, highly unlikely. But his parents, relatives, older staff members, etc…would be.

    And his employer may eventually have the ability to mandate things and ‘take his freedoms.’ It’s not a public school system, private entities can have their own rules if I’m not mistaken, like a local grocery store mandating a mask, etc…don’t like it, go somewhere else, also your freedom, or start growing your own food 😆

  59. packerfanwi1028 says:
    April 7, 2021 at 8:14 pm
    He’s right, this is America, you have a choice.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Like “my body, my choice” decisions?

  60. Why do people feel that it is OK to ask someone if they are getting vaccinated? It’s really none of their business and they should not ask.

  61. packerfanwi1028 says:
    April 7, 2021 at 8:14 pm
    He’s right, this is America, you have a choice

    _____________

    That’s the great thing about America – we all have a choice. Including the NFL, which most certainly can choose to mandate a vaccine in order to play football as an NFL player. Then it’s his choice whether he wants to play or not.

  62. He’s 24 and in good health. When he’s talking about statistics I think he referring to the fact that COVID has a less than 1% chance of killing him if he gets it. I’m not here to say if young healthy people should get it or not, but people like Josh Allen are the last people who should feel pressured into getting the shot.

  63. once he gets covid and spreads it his family and friends and teammates the debate will be settled.

  64. By getting the vaccine you’re protecting others besides yourself.

    If you’re asymptomatic you could be spreading COVID to others without knowing it. To me it’s your patriotic duty to get the vaccine.

    Same with wearing a mask. You should do it to protect others besides yourself.

  65. Sure, his choice–and the NFL can also decide not to allow unvaccinated players to play cuz they are a health risk.

    Choice does not mean no consequences.

  66. Its his right to never get the vaccine and if he doesnt and gets covid and dies its only his familys loss and he will simply join well over a half million unfortunates who never got the chance at the life saving vaccine but we will know he did.the murderous virus will never end as long as we have stupid, non caring people refusing to fight it by getting two simple painless shots in the arm to not only save their life but the lives of their family and friends.dont take it but dont cry for those you infect after you get it.

  67. It’s actually a good thing that a public figure is open about being cautious concerning something that was essentially rushed out, and only approved of days after a contentious election. Encouraging free thought shouldn’t be an issue.

  68. It’s simple, If you enjoy life ,get the vaccine. If you like taking chances with your life, don’t.

  69. “He’s right, this is America, you have a choice.” “He is right…it’s everyone’s choice.” ________________ Do you also have the right not to be vaccinated against the measles? Polio? Do you have the right to be part of bringing back terrible diseases that have been eliminated due to the miracle of vaccines? Your right to choose ends when that choice endangers the health of everyone.

  70. And yes, Allen should be roasted for his comments. To talk about being a big logic and statistics guy makes NO SENSE. Problem is, the dumbest people are also sometimes the most confident.

    Get the damn shot so this goes away! It’s not going to disappear miraculously… I have my 2nd today.

  71. “His body. His choice”
    “My body. My choice.”

    It is not his choice or your choice when that choice involves the health of your fellow man. You freedom to choose does extend to spreading infectious diseases.

  72. majormalphunktion says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:00 am
    Sure, his choice–and the NFL can also decide not to allow unvaccinated players to play cuz they are a health risk.

    Choice does not mean no consequences.

    —–

    With the mortality rate for NFL players being 0.0% why would any of these guys need vaccination? There is no health risk for the players. Now if others are worried, by all means they should get vaccinated

  73. FYI every single law we have infringes on our personal freedoms. It’s all totally legal because we live in communities and our choices effect others.

    You can choose to not get vaccinated, and we can choose to exclude you from everything except you staying home.

  74. Does Josh Allen also get to choose whether or not he gets to wear shoulder pads and a helmet? I mean, maybe the statistics show he may just get a slight concussion but likely not die if he gets hit in the head. After all, it is his body.

  75. people in here should understand that getting the shot does NOT prevent transmission of the virus, it only prevents you from having severe symptoms yourself. It literally says so on the little leaflet they give you at the vaccination site. I will respect anyone’s decision to get or not get the shot for any reason. But if youre going to be one of the people that judges others, then at least know the facts. And the fact is, you will transmit covid-19 if you’re carrying it – whether you’re vaccinated or not. By getting the shot you are ensuring you are protected, but that protection does NOT extend to anyone else.

  76. I’m a big statistics and logical guy too.

    WW2 : 6 years and 420K US deaths
    Covid : 1 year and 558K US deaths

    Severe Covid symptoms : days or weeks at the hospital
    Asymptomatic : watch TV at home

  77. Lol at “we still don’t know the long term health risks of the vaccine”. I’d be more concerned about the unknown longterm health risks after getting covid-19, guy.

  78. neverdieeasy says:
    April 7, 2021 at 7:59 pm
    His choice. I am wavering both ways as well. Quick question…if you get the vaccine would you have to quarantine still when exposed?
    ______________________________________________

    According to the guidelines, you will not have to quarantine if exposed.

  79. Of course it’s his right to be get the shot or not….however, do not say you are a “statistics” guy and choose not to get the shot. The stats show it’s safe and effective.

  80. If he gets one today, it is likely he’ll need to get another one before the start of the season. These shots don’t last a life time, much less a year or more.

  81. phinheads says:
    April 8, 2021 at 6:02 am
    If you don’t get vaccinated the only person you are compromising is yourself and therefore it should be your choice.

    0 1 Rate This

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    Wow. Just wow.

  82. Sure, you can choose not to get it, but you can also be turned away from certain activities and gatherings for not having it. It’s the same with almost any vaccine. Some countries require different vaccines for entry. Schools require certain vaccines to attend. If you choose not to have them, you are opting out of those things as well.

  83. Sure, its his choice, but what if during the season he tests positive or gets covid. He will likely miss 2 or 3 games. Without their star player, the Bills could lose a couple of games that they otherwise would have won. This could result in them needlessly losing the division to the Dolphins or the rejuvenated Patriots and getting a lower playoff seed or maybe not even making the playoffs. He will have to explain this to the fans of Buffalo and his teammates if this happens. Choices have consequences.

  84. Idiots you take vaccinate to stop the spread and mutation of the virus. If you are in a low risk group you can still pass the virus. It is just selfishness looking at it any other way

  85. Just because there is a yellow line in the middle doesn’t mean the government can tell me where to drive on the road. It’s my personal freedumb where to drive. My choices only affect me!

  86. If these vaccines were truly made to help people, wouldn’t they be free?

  87. Maybe he should talked to athletes that have tested positive.

    Look at the Boston Red Sox pitcher Eduardo Rodrigez. He missed the entire 2020 season with complication due to COVID.

  88. Stop criticizing Josh. He’s still a kid. He will have more time to think about it. He may see what has happened to the Vancouver Canucks. The NHL is thinking of closing their season because most of the active team and coaches are in the quarantine now. With the variants of the virus, younger people are getting sicker and going to the ICU.

  89. After reading some of the anti vaccine comments it’s clear- thankfully we now have a vaccine against Covid-19, unfortunately there’s still no vaccine available for stupidity!!
    Over 500,000 Americans have died from Covid-19, not to mention those who have recovered who have health concerns.
    Just ask the starting Red Sox pitcher who had COVID and has heart damage and still can’t pitch!

  90. It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not. I chose to do it and so did my wife.
    I had a very close friend die of Covid and know others — including an EMT and nurses — who’ve had the virus, and it is by all accounts, miserable to deal with.
    The question is this. Are those who choose not to get the vaccinations putting themselves and all of us in jeopardy? After talking with several people in the medical field, I believe the answer to that question is “yes”.

  91. So many people don’t understand the risks of Covid. If you’re young and healthy, you have a near zero chance of having bad symptoms, let alone dying. You also have a near zero chance of infecting somebody else if you have no symptoms. We have no idea what the long-term effects of an experimental vaccine are, so the statistics say get the vaccine if you’re older or at risk and don’t get the vaccine if you have little risk. Stop bullying people who are actually looking at the numbers.

  92. The past year has exposed just how many people are only concerned about themselves and no one else.

  93. It remains astonishing to me how many people still don’t understand how large-scale vaccination programs and herd immunity work.

    The reason that young, healthy people who are at virtually no risk should still get the vaccine is because NOT EVERYONE CAN PHYSICALLY RECEIVE THE VACCINE. There are certain high-risk immunocompromised populations who cannot be given vaccines, so those peoples’ only defense against COVID are distancing measures and the people around them being vaccinated.

    If young, healthy people who don’t really need the vaccine to protect themselves decide not to bother getting it, the people they’re hurting are already-sick folks who would kill to be able to get the vaccine but can’t be given it for health reasons.

    I know it’s not very American to care about random other people whom you don’t know and never will, but that’s just how mass vaccination works. You certainly have the right to make the choice not to receive it anyway, but you should know exactly whom you’re hurting if and when you make that choice.

  94. Those of you downvoting personal freedoms are frightening. Why should you worry about someone else? If YOU get the shot and believe in all it’s magic, you’re fine! It’s logically impossible for another person’s choice to affect you. It boggles my logical mind that those who get the shot are still living in fear and pressuring others to do the same. Still wearing masks too. This is about compliance with no logic whatsoever.
    _____________________

    If every person had the ability to choose to receive the vaccine, then sure, who cares. But you are failing to understand that there are people who WANT the vaccine, but CANNOT be given it for health reasons. Your choice not to receive it might not affect you in any way whatsoever, but that same choice could also result in you giving the virus to someone who’s already immunocompromised, can’t take vaccines, and the virus ultimately kills them.

    But sure, continue to believe it’s logically impossible for your choice to affect them.

  95. Blind leading the Blind and they both fall into the pit. Believe the FACTUAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE and you will stay far away from the “Experimental” Inoculations they call vaccines.

  96. Do whatever you want. The virus will stick around longer for every person that chooses not to get it, though, and those who remain unvaccinated will invariably have a higher risk of getting it, getting sick, missing time from work, spreading it to others, and possibly worse. Those who choose to go this route will also be banned from certain activities- there is a reason they are giving out vaccine cards, and it isn’t so you can frame it. When the vaccines are available for school age children, you better believe your children will either need the vaccine to attend or you will be home schooling them. This isn’t something new. These rules exist for other vaccines as well.

    The government can’t make you do anything. Can’t make you do what’s right for the community, and it can’t make you do what’s right for yourself. You can do what you like. As with all freedoms, right or wrong, you will pay the price for your decisions, whether it’s a small price or a steep one. Please, just don’t go complaining when your personal decisions affect your own life (and it will). Accept responsibility and deal with it.

  97. Don’t be dumb Josh, get the shot, protect yourself, your family, and your teammates.

  98. Martin says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:38 am

    I’m a big statistics and logical guy too.

    WW2 : 6 years and 420K US deaths
    Covid : 1 year and 558K US deaths

    ——————————————

    Quite a bit of difference between those populations of who died in WW2 and who has died from Covid.

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